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TATIME:
I'm not in the position to tell you what's wrong with other people's opinions, mine is just to present mine and be confident enough speak boldly about it's credibility! Everyone with his/her own opinion you know, but it's OK after all we're all intelligent creatures with right to choose what we want. As i said "it's not to be forced on anyone"

Cool... I prefer it when u sound this way. Do u think I am a fool for not believing?

TATIME:
Yes my friend the document will surely seems wrong most especially when you're the type that wants answers sharp sharp.

What's wrong with wanting something sharp sharp

I'm not God but as one of HIS trained representatives(Witnesses) i understood you perfectly. HE said the GIFT is not to be forced on anyone rather our presentation is what we should continue to improve upon so as to make it creditable.

Leave out force here... All God should have done is naturally reveal himself to me without much drama. Instead of sending a book that I can't agree with.

There are misinformed religious churchgoers that's posing as friends of the document but truthfully speaking they're the principal enemies of the book,

Well... I really don't care.

there are conditions and challenges that's giving people concern and tough times,most people are lazy in reading, meditating or even shy in asking questions regarding what they don't know and to crown it all God is not ready to lower HIS standards. That's why Jesus clarified us as peacemakers and sons of God for doing all we can to create a peaceful atmosphere between God and the angry man who finds it difficult to reason along with HIM. Matthew 5:9

OK... The book is still shitty to me. I am a peace maker... I don't need any document by any creator to know that... That's another reason the book is useless to me.

wiegraf:
That's wickedness

Been a while

TATIME:
Hmmmmmmmmmm it's just to bad that you can't make demands before a person who has been betrayed by your parents when HE is giving you a second chance simply because you're not the original culprit. Romans 3:23,5:12-19 So according to the document what you're offered now is a GIFT not a mandatory RIGHT

The document has everything wrong written on it... I don't accept it. This is genuine coming from me, and if u were God, u would understand.

TATIME:
You just can't stand there demanding special attention after HE has passed a written form of document to all tenants for each of them to know.

I actually can. I am his creation and he created me without my permission... He shouldn't create me and not naturally prove himself to me... There is nothing wrong with that. The written document does not pass for me... Its unreasonable, it makes no sense, it was written for a particular tribe, its full of unreasonable stories that does not go well with me. Its the kind of paper an agent will give me and I will instantly know its a scam.

(1)How the house was built.
(2)Why the house was built.
(3)Who are the scammers and what's their intentions.(4)What HE has done to salvage the situation
(5)What each tenant need to do in order to benefit from His provisions. Any tenant that feels too big or important than the written document signed by the landlord jeopardizes his continuous stay in HIS estate period.

I don't see the document as written by God... Sorry. Its sounds like a scam document to me so I don't accept it. Will u accept a document that sound Like scam to u? Are u asking me to accept a document that sounds like scam to me... I expect much more better from God.

TATIME:
You've drawn a fine comparison so i'll say BRAVO! My friend. But remember that there are scammers going about disguising as caretakers, and they're also tenants dwelling in the same estates,the landlord won't give a damn if you as a tenant feels indifferent towards whatever those scammers does because you're all tenants in his estates.

Lies.. Pls don't be a landlord like ur God... From the way u are sounding u will make a bad landlord.

The landlord should be very very very concerned about scam agents who are deceiving his tenants.. They will spoil his name and deceive his loving tenants... He must give a damn if he is a good landlord.

Beside hiring ordinary tenants to be his caretaker... He should higher classified professionals (higher beings) so that people can not easily be deceived.

So it's rather reasonable if you as a wise tenant HUMBLY investigate to know exactly what the landlord wants, A noble and wealthy landlord having countless estates that discovers such a tenant in the midst of other carefree tenants of course will give a large portion of the estate to him in other to take charge of everything he own!

Accepted... How do I research... Whenever I am looking for house do u know what I do? Try to get the landlords number from the agent.. If two agents give me two different numbers as the landlords as know something is fishy and investigate more... U see, it still boils down to communicating with the landlord.

God is not running at lost because HIS words said "in the beginning HE created the heavens and earth" so it costs HIM nothing whether you agree or not live or die, the first two intelligent creatures HE made are dead now so whoever wants to relate with HIM amidst the countless descendants of the rebellious couple must HUMBLY search diligently for HIS face not arrogantly making demands or setting standards for HIM.

Cool... I am not running at lost too... Its just sad that a whole God cannot get his act together and create a world he can handle without all these unnecessary dramas.

TATIME:
EMPTY to those whose hearts are filled with EMPTINESS but FULLL to those whose hearts are hungry for there spiritual needs. Matthew 5:3

Exactly why its a scam... Full if u chose to close ur eyes, empty if u chose to open them

LordReed:
LoL! This is rich. God made the laws but cannot communicate face to face at least let him do conference call from heaven with video na. Why must he interface via other humans? LMFAO! You have been sold an empty bag and you are standing there holding it with a big goofy smile thinking you are holding a bag of goodies.

The guy has been scammed, totally scammed

TATIME:
There are better things nature offers than what man has invented but it's just the fear of untamed individuals that's forcing someone like me to accept most things.

Things like what?

TATIME:
That's 100% true my friend,just that i reason differently due to thorough meditations on every single thing going on around me.

I reason differently bro and better. I think for myself and do not depend on some written junks or any higher spiritual person to come help yet I achieve as much as u do. I do not waste my time praying and hoping the creator will make things better like me... It will be useless of me to do all that, pray, preach, fast, tithe only to achieve almost the same thing with someone who does not.
I even put my time in more productive things... U are wasting ur time bro, suffering and smiling.

TATIME:
Hmmmmmmmmmm when you're a tenant in one of Okoya's Estates or Otedola's Estates or Dangote's Estates m, Just demand the landlord's phone number from the agent then you'll realize the value or significance of your "money" that he is Chopin.

Bro ... Think harder before u talk na. I know u want to defend an invisible creator which is unreasonable but if u know nothing just say it.

Sometimes big boys like otedola or dangote build estates because they want to invest and they hand it over to experts in estate management who take full responsibility for the estate. In this case dangote does not know jackshit about estate management and is therefore no use to reach out to him when there is an issue with his property. Because he is NOT CAPABLE OF taking care for estate issues. Is this the case with God?

Despite that, if the property collapses and someone dies, people can sue dangote to court... In fact, such are reasons why some of this big men decide to be anonymous when it comes to their properties.

But in case of God (landlord) he loves his tenants and wants them to be happy, he even want to have a relationship with them... And the best way is to send some incompetent tenant caretakers, worst still he sees them interpret things about him wrongly and keeps quiet about it.

Ur God is the unserious landlord I have seen in the history of landlords

TATIME:
That's an invalid and disrespectful demand from a tenant who loves his home and wants to keep living happily their! You're funny my friend, because a WISE tenant will take his time to discover the source of authentic info from the landlord by HUMBLY asking thought provoking questions from all information carriers to ascertain facts.

Ask who for answer? Lol... Fellow tenants who have conflicting info about the landlord? How about the landlord coming to ensure his house is at peace... Or sending higher respectable people rather depending on fellow tenants.
Well I will not ask because the problem started with tenants misinforming the people in the first place.

Demanding the face of the landlord is tantamount to disrespect,disregard and rebellion.

How is that disrespect. Is it not his house, am i not his tenant... Seeing him is the best and only option since the so called tenants who are also caretakers are not capable. They are busy causing confusion. There is nothing wrong in the landlord coming to set his house in order.

I'm sure that you won't try that with any landlord,

I have lived in houses and once there are misconceptions we demand for the landlord who is owner of the house, in cases where he is not around we talk on phone... I have done that with all my landlords... When it comes to God u guys just stop thinking. Why will I not demand to see my landlord who is Chopin my money?

if you're not ready to quit the premises. Buhari is Nigeria's president today,all rumours regarding orders from him will be taken seriously FIRST then a thorough investigation follows to be sure of what exactly are his demands, certainly you dare not demand to see him face to face before compliance with his orders.That's just a human like you in Abuja, i doubt if you've ever spoken with him face to face before taking orders from his representatives

Buhari is not capable of seeing every single Nigerian face to face (is this the case for ur God? U for talk since na)
People have demanded buhari or any presidents intervention in critical situations and we often see them address issues on TV. And in situations they chose to remain quiet (like ur God) people show their displeasure on papers or radio shows(something u guys condemn when it comes to ur God)
Face is man, ur God idea is the most foolish and useless to mankind no matter how u try to defend it... Itd a failure and we should move ahead.. How can a landlord have a house and demanding to see the landlord when issues are being misunderstood becomes bad... WTF

TATIME:
Wisdom is justified by her children. Luke 7:35

U can say that again, u are as ordinary as everyone of us...

LordReed:
Wow I really didn't pay attention to this. LoLz, I am sure this destruction will come in the form of you being directed by God to kill all non Believers right? Just like he instructed the Israelites to kill the Canaanites right? LMFAO!

Or just the way he is instructing bokoharam to kill Christians

TATIME:
You're typing this today because you're now an adult but there WAS a time when you're just a helpless little infant. Surely most of the things you did back then shouldn't be expected of you again today,because you're NO MORE a helpless little baby! So that's the difference between your present and past.

Still don't make u different... Just makes u think u are different

TATIME:
You're typing this today because you're now an adult but there WAS a time when you're just a helpless little infant. Surely most of the things you did back then shouldn't be expected of you again today,because you're NO MORE a helpless little baby! So that's the difference between your present and past.

So Jesus was God now he is no more God?

Lol... And it keeps getting foolish

TATIME:
Hmmmmmmmmmm most people just love misinformation. Well the truth is that my God is not going to do a single thing to help the descendants of a rebellious couple who are still dwelling on the same thing their ancestors did. HIS promise is to "destroying all disobedient ones then instruct obedient ones on what to do next to make the place HE gave them a Paradise" So if you're expecting anything more then you're deceiving yourselves because even the most stupid reformer amongst you knew that you can't achieve perfect conditions in the presence of those waiting to ruin your plans.

This is exactly why ur God idea is useless.

With or without you God idea... Humans will be good and bad. They will try to make ends meet and struggle to make their life better. Even u who is a believer in whatever nonsense God is in ur head is involved in the same struggle everyone is involved in. U get hurt, happy, better and sometimes things get bad .. Ur God is just their in ur head doing nothing about the world he created... I will spite on him any day he tries to show his face.

TATIME:
Atheists will not stop amusing me with their attitudes, if you're not ready to obey WRITTEN documents it's OK but calm down to see clearly before arguing. I said Jesus WAS! WAS!! WAS!!! God. Not IS God because at that time He served the same purpose that Moses served during his lifetime. Exodus 7:1 So during their lifetime nobody could ever try what the performed as sign of divine acceptance up till today! Deuteronomy 34:10-12 compared to John 21:25 They both served as Gods during their lifetime but they both kept directing all the glory and honor to the one who made them Gods in human skin "Jehovah". Deuteronomy 6:4-9 compared to Mark 12:29,30 So my friend, Jesus served as God but never asked people to worship Him. John 20:17

What's this? Jesus was God, Jesus is God, Jesus is not God but was God, Jesus served as God... Get ur story straight bro.

TATIME:
You're now making the right demands! Because you're expressing your opinion about the title "GOD". So let's come to terms on what's to be expected and what's not ideal.

Cool

If you build a house and let it out to tenants what do you expect of them? Surely to keep your house in order for themselves and others seeing the house. You'll not feel honored as the landlord of a dilapidated or disorganized building having not just life in it but humans! A wise landlord will hire a caretaker to give instructions on how his building should be maintained and tenants that failed to comply will be given a quit notice.

Exactly

Well, that's just what the Bible is all about. God created this earth but mankind's inability to maintain it is due to their ignoring the instructional manual given by the owner. Some misinformed tenants are trying to set standards for the landlord because they don't know his intentions while others are claiming the house erected itself so their saying "NO RULES" yet few tenants are attentively taken instructions from the caretaker who keeps directing them to the manual. Hebrews 3:4

If u build a house and some misinformed tenants try to set standard for the landlord what will u do as a landlord?

If this God idea is the landlord of this world, then he is the worst landlord ever to exist.
1. He goes definitely into hiding
2. He promises and fails
3. He has many caretakers with different instructions
4. His tenants are fighting over who is right about him
5. He is doing nothing about the confusion
6. No one is even sure who the landlord is... All the tenants have are words from different caretakers who are all tenants too.
7. Some wise tenants are not capable of believing what their fellow tenants who call themselves landlords are saying, they just want to see or hear from the landlord directly.

TATIME:
That's why i said atheists are novice regarding FAITH. You and your folks just concluded on the definition that misinformed churchgoers taught you, then you're now demanding the face of God as all their teachings is unfolding as misinformation. Well God doesn't just mean creator my friend, if it does Bible writers won't refer to Moses as God. So you need to fully understand the meaning of the title god before you start making demands. Tailor means someone skilled in sowing but a designer is the brain behind great fashionable dresses you're seeing around you today. The title "God" don't just mean creator but the deity to be feared or revered,it's the title "Almighty God" that connotes the ability to do all things ie CREATE

Cool... Then why don't we stick to one thing. This whole argument is not about what anyone refers to as God when he obeys it or them. Its about this world having a creator and people worshiping this creator idea when they have never seen, or heard from it. Its about people reading the bible and saying it was written by the creator of this world and selecting what they want to obey about it. Its about having faith in an idea u call Almighty God and waiting on it to help u when u call on it. Its about believing that this creator idea will come to create peace in this world one day by giving us heaven on earth. And I am saying lies lies lies