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TATIME:
#frank317: True Christians have countless evidence for trusting the Bible(though atheists are claiming the book was fabricated). Just imagine the high intellect of some humans who analyzed the title god with efficacy as the so called "fabricated" book puts it. "Whatever or whoever in whom you put your trust is your God" Matthew 6:24 Many are betraying and killing their fellow man for the love of money. Why? Because they strongly believe that money could save them as their BEST FRIEND in times of NEED. So whatever it takes to make the money they'll do, undoubtedly money is the one controlling them therefore money becomes there god. What about those who put their trust in man's ability to solve their problems? They'll choose the one who will lead them but in the end the leader becomes a citizen that's "above the law" in other words their god. 1Samuel 8:1-18 If you're honest with yourself as you were asking me initially,is the "fabricated" book right or wrong on this issue?

When u call moeby God, do u mean money is the creator of the world? I don't understand ur rambling. Does the world God have different meaning to u?

TATIME:
Hmmmmmmmmmm so you're feeling hurt, i'm truly sorry for putting you through all this but it's just the truth in black and white. Whatever or whoever in whom you put your trust is your God! That's the emphasis of the debate. You're agitating that some people are putting their trust in WRITTEN documents that were fabricated going by your assertion. And you are also putting your trust in the effort of humans like you, so it's no delusion that those people are your GODS,since you must obey whatever they ask you to do for the betterment you desire with all your soul. Just as we're also obeying as in worshipping the UNSEEN spirit giving US orders on what we must do for HIM to see US as loyal worshippers and count US worthy when HE began ruling. So there's nothing as in NOTHING delusional about it.

What's there to feel hurt about what u are saying? I feel pity for u not hurt bro... But since u are mentioning hurt, perhaps that's how u feel.

Whoever I put my trust in is my God? Is this actually what u call God? Well I put trust in myself, and my wife... Guess I and my wife is my God. Listen to urself.

I am obeying whatever who ask me to do? Are u alright?

So if trust in money for example, does it mean money created the world? Or are u just calling anything God? Them use God do jazz for u?

TATIME:
Yes we're doing the greatest,but you got it all wrong my friend because the work Jesus said we're going to do more is preaching to far distant lands. Nobody can do one tenth of what Jesus did regardingw miraculous works,because whether you agree or not Jesus was God! John 1:1

Whats the similarity between Jesus and Superman: both a just active on the pages of written book.

Of course Jesus is God, and God is the creator u worship and God was killed by humans so that God can save humans when they believe humans killed God.

TATIME:
Haaaaaaaaa so you don't even know or recognise your gods Well i'll help you out, please go and check the note you're keeping in your wallet before giving it to the petrol station attendant. You'll see the faces of your gods in it, they're dead and others have risen while you must continue to OBEY as in WORSHIP them whether your soul agree or not. These are the gods in which you're putting your trust because you can see them so you must fear them, and don't tell me they aren't your gods because if your faculty is saying you should come together to make things better certainly there must be those leading and INSTRUCTING YOU, "YOUR GODS"

Lol... Funny dude. Sorry to say u sound so delusional. U probably need help, I can see that religion has sunk into ur brain that u see everything around as God...ur case is far serious than I thought.
Well u can chose to see anything as god.. I really cannot help out in this case, if u like see food as God, if u like see money as god if u like, imagine the world has a creator and start worshiping ur imagination, the most important thing is that u don't drag me into ur delusion.

I.make.my choice and decide what's right or wrong.. U see, u have sold ur self will and I haven't. I want things to be better for my sake, a peaceful environment is good for my health and sanity, but u... U have no sense of self, u only want things to be good because u think that's what ur God want but not what u need.

Go treat urself bro, u are sick

ElidaxZiel:
is money the problem, because I read about your post, I'm trying to help you as much a possible, and I want you also to help yourself, wht has God actually done that create this hatred in you

His problem is, God has done nothing for him, don't u get it?

TATIME:
It's OK, if you're contending with GOD HE is not bothered after all you're obeying smaller gods beneath HIM.

He is not bothered because he does not exist. I am.not obeying any nonsense smaller Gods, I am not u.

Psalms 82:1 Whether you like it or not you must obey(worship)gods amongst you or else their agents will deal ruthlessly with your ass. Ecclesiastes 4:8,8:9

Them never born either ur God or ur nonexistent other gods to even exist not to talk of dealing with me... They only exist in ur mouth... U wish I will be dealt with for not believing... Eyaaa, I am doing so well without ur God and u cannot live with it. Pele.

So in their presence and most times in their absence you'll continue to OBEY them.

I dont obey things that dont exist, i am not even capable of that.

Well that's a sigh that a higher supernatural force is somewhere even though you stubbornly disagree but as long as you're worshipping HIS creatures that you can see HE is OK!

Of course they exist... In ur mind.

It's just funny that your gods are dying and other gods keep emerging demanding your obedience. Psalms 82:6,7

Where are u burying them... Show me their grave

TATIME:
Hmmmmmmmmmm it's Psalms 10:4 that best defines atheism.They want God to speak with each and everyone or openly speaking thunderously from the sky before people can agree that HE exists. So their claim remains "I haven't seen any God,therefore don't tell me to believe what i can't see".The emphasis of the believing is obeying someone even during HIS absence and that's where atheists failed woefully because this same individuals will be expecting intelligent creatures like them to obey rules set in the absence of the rulers e.g. traffic.

Why don't u obey Mohammed even in his absence. If I tell u I have special God I worship in my bedroom will u believe and obey it?

U make up a God in ur head and say he set some rules... How do u want sensible guy to take u serious

TATIME:
Of course it will sound stupid before those who haven't been tortured by individuals under the influence of the gods of political seats(politicians) When you're affected by the deeds of the gods controlling the authorities i'm sure you'll remember today! How i wish you survive that day so that you can meet one of US when you're ready to learn about the unseen supernatural forces threatening your very existence!

Nothing will happen to him because he does not believe in all ur mumbo jumbo... U guy live all ur life wishing nonsense

TATIME:
HE made laws after man chose to be independent of HIS guidance, That's why HE chose a nation "Israel" as a people for HIS name.if not for Adam's disobedience we wouldn't have needed laws. Instead each person will continue to pass life saving instructions to his child. But since Adam rebelled against his father (Luke 3:38) so children started disobeying their parents and everything else went wrong!

Did he make the law before cain married or after Cain married?

Did man chose to be independent before Cain married or after Cain married.

TATIME:
Common Atheists keep asking and getting answers from my respected document(Bible) i'm not like you who has no documents from which you can get answers to life threatening questions. Yours is just to keep arguing and arguing until you conclude on uncertainty because you're afraid of making adjustments in your thinking yet you're agitating against those who are courageous enough to take the bold step.

u say cain married his sister and u think u are giving us answer? U are saying God used incest to populate the world and u think u are making sense.

TATIME:
Oh because the document went further to say Adam had another son after Cain has killed Abel and Cain was not found since the self imposed banishment. So it's clear that Eve remains the running mate of Adam until death.

and this means he ran away with his sister? Did he have casual sex with her or where they legally married? who was the bride price paid to?

TATIME:
Laws came after man chose to be independent of God's instructions and it's just for those who chooses to depend on God for guidance.

wise one, when did man chose to be independent of God's instruction, is it before cain was born or after he was born. are u saying there was no law at the time cain got married.

Your own son is free to marry your daughter after all you have no regards for our document(Bible)

I have a brain, which ur God obviously does not have since his own evaporated with his spirit hood. And unlike ur dear cain, i cannot develop romantic love for my daugther, the love i have for her is that one a father will have for his child or a man for his sister... but ur God couldnt give cain that brain because he started the world as a lawless society according to u

TATIME:
Yes! You should have known from the pages of the written document that names of females were ommitted unless if she does something worthwhile! So Cain ran away with one of his sisters who names were not mentioned just like the wife of Seth.

u think telling the readers who cain married is not worth it?lol@ Cain ran away with one of his sisters whose name was not mention? u are indeed a smart dude...

please how did u come up with this conclusion smart ass. How are u sure he ran away with his sister and not his mother

LordReed:
LoL! What a story. Ask you now who Cain mated with will send you into another convulsion of sophistry. LMFAO!

the holy spirit told me Cain slept with his mum... incest was good for God at that time. the never changing God has now changed and hates incest.

LordReed:
Pure gold is a very soft metal, imagine walking on clay along with millions of people, what a mess it would be. LoL. God in designing the streets of heaven could not come up with a better substance to use LoL. Its obvious some unsophisticated author wanted to impress his unsophisticated readers with how grand heaven would be and picked on the most precious metal he knew. LoLz. If it was our time the person would probably have picked platinum which is rarer and more precious than gold. LMFAO!

lol.... God likes gold... and money too.

TATIME:
Well i'm sorry, numbers don't count before the person who STARTED these whole thing with just TWO humans, so if it's just a 100 that's fitting for everlasting life HE is OK!

No... he is a failure, thats what it means. His creation is totally out of his control, thats how u paint ur so called intelligent creature.

TATIME:
Hmmmmmmmmmm now listen to what John wrote that caused my brains to START working for the promises found in the Bible! At Revelations chapters 17-20 there happens to be a "harlot" sitting on and committing fornication with a "wild beast" having seven heads and ten horns.The wild beast will destroy the harlot and burn her with fire. Well here is the meaning :The harlot means false religions in all their forms,they were having bitchy dealings with worldly politicians(wild beast) and the result of this is killing of God's true servants who kept condemning such ungodly relationship.The harlot is drunk with the blood of the Holy ones(true Christians). How come they later became enemies? Well the Bible did not explain but today true Christians are getting the understanding. Atheism will become great and soon most political positions will be held by atheists and because atheists already see religion as the enemy of peace which they'll be pursuing they'll ban all religions and finally stop their activities. Later as they're ruling without distractions from false religion they will turn against JWs(whose activities though has no negative effects on their dominance) initially they will not notice US but because our preaching and teaching program keep proclaiming an end to their rulership, That is when Jehovah will say from heaven with a thunderous utterance "do my prophets no harm" by destroying all worldly rulers and all their supporters! Today there is a religious group that has nothing to do with politics and that's where i belong but you belong to no religious group, your hope is in what humans could achieve meaning you'll count on POLITICS to solve mankind's problems. That's why it will affect you. You may not agree but i'm sure your question i've answered "why my brains have STARTED working with and for the Bible" the one and only written document that's able to tell how everything began, what is happening presently and what's coming to happen in the nearest future. So my SMART friend this is what makes me feel I'm at least SMARTER than you.

WTF did i just real... guy are u sure u are normal?

Wild beast with seven head and ten horns = politicians

Harlot = false religion (seriously)

but ur post says the wild beast will kill the harlot and this automatically means, the result of this is killing of God's true servants who kept condemning such ungodly relationship

the last time I checked, smartness is not giving unrelated meaning to words u dont understand. You have absolutely made a mess of the bible with the interpretation above... the fact that u have been been waiting for ur God to act all ur life, many have gone waiting too, and u see nothing wrong with this shows u lost ur brain at the moment u were born

TATIME:
Atheists with their low intellect. You listened to misinformed churchgoers like yourself and never thought of FAKE and ORIGINAL! Well for your information the Bible never promised me heaven but an unending life here on this same planet earth. Psalms 37:9-11,29 Proverbs 2:21,22,Matthew 5:5 So go and find TRUE Christians to know what the Bible promised faithful and obedient humans instead of sarcastically mimicking what misinformed churchgoers taught you!

Mr. Best informed church goer... u know i all yet u all u have is just some unfortunate ramblings with nothing to show for it.

lol... the bible promised u unending life? for ur mind u will live forever on planet earth... lol. is that why u are believing all the horseshit written in it? At least u are humble enough to admit u are promised something... and this has cause ur brain to stop thinking... how can a God who has been struggling with evil since he created the world prmise u something and u believe it... U god does not deserve to be believed at all... the bible described him as a total failure, lair, lack of control and absolutely sneaky.

TATIME:
At least It makes me smarter than you who has NO answer to the CAUSE of life on a single planet in the Solar system that's full of other planets with no life amidst the milky way galaxy. How stupid i'll be if i believe all these from some space men who never saw all these things with their EYES But stupidly and furiously arguing against another form of written document telling me how everything began.Instead of searching for those who will teach me to understand the book Genesis 1:1-31 Hellooooooo there is an adage that says "in the land of the blind an eyed man SHOULD be a King" so i'm smarter than you who has NOTHING to say about how we got here

lol.. your shitty laughable reason for the cause of life is what makes u smart? a story of creation written by ignorant jewish cattle rearers who claimed THEIR God created the world by talkin some trash and after that his creation went out of control... is that what makes u feel smart? are u fuqing kidding me?

Understand which book... whats there not to understand about the bible... u guys give it much credit than it deserves. Its full of jargons... thats what it is and u know it.

Oga, we dont know how man or everything actually started. since u are fond of believing any ridiculous stories about what caused the universe, why dont u believe to yoruba folklore on creation or Igbo's or Chinese? why stick to the story of the jews? prove u are a bit smarter, believe them all. Oh since you reject other folktale how does my rejecting the one u believe in make me less smarter? does the fact the u reject the chinese folketale make u foolish?

prove u are smart boy... read the bible extensively and ask urself why your God cannot handle the world he created.... ask urself why devil and a whole lot of angels are fighting him, why man is disobedient, why he destroyed the earth with water, why he had to kill his son, why is the freaking world out of his control...

Pastor Chris, adeboyo, oyedopo and tb Joshua....in fact all the pastors in nigeria

TATIME:
assignments Please don't ever tell your children what happened in your neighborhood during your youth unless you are an EYE WITNESS of the event.

Of course... If I am an eye witness, they will know, if I am not an eye witness, I will also tell them. Is this hard.

U just go about believing the bible with its ridiculous stories of snakes talking, God fighting with his creation(devil) Virgin getting pregnant by holyspirit, God dishing out promises he cannot fulfil, how does this make u smart.

TATIME:
Yes! You can say that again and again, Just that 'Lord of the ring" has nothing as in NOTHING to do with people you know in your neighborhood or living in far distance unlike the Bible today! And what's more? No sane or insane group has ever gathered to start a debate that could ever has any effect on people living in any place on the surface of the earth due to "Lord of the ring" You'll ever continue to wonder how and why the Bible has gotten so much grip on billions of living souls around you until you give it undivided attention to grasp the messages in it or you'll be forced to reckon with it somehow someway somewhere sometimes. And that's exactly what you're doing right now

The bible as a book has the most silly stories ever written, but its understandable why millions like u value it so much... U desperately want to go to ur promised heavenly mansion with streets of Gold when u die.
Promise a child some sweets and he will believe and do anything u tell and ask him.