Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by frank317: 1:00pm On Oct 07, 2018 |
thesolutions: That's your opinion and belief. It's not everyone else's opinion or belief. Ya... A lot of people believe even when there is no. They believe because of fear or indoctrination. I used to believe too u know. So I know how u feel. God didn't appear to every one in Israel or in the bible and nei. He appeared to some people with an assignment or a message. And this is how the Almighty expects to be known? How does it even make sense to u |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by frank317: 12:33pm On Oct 07, 2018 |
thesolutions: So what do you want to challenge me with? Or you are so dumb that you can only hid behind someone's argument. I have nothing to challenge u with yet...was just following the conversation and and it confirmed my thoughts... Gods not real Nah I am not dumb... Your lordreed quoted the scripture to prove that God appeared to Abraham and should also appear to individuals physically in the present age but refused to acknowledge that God appeared to Abraham in Human form and not His real form. So Abraham called the han form LORD and spoke with him like he was talking directly with God? That's by the way... What stops God from appearing in any form now... Why has he suddenly maintained his spirit stance. Now is even the time that he needs to appear so that we can snap a pix with him... Is he camera shy? I remember mentioning the burning bush in the case of Moses but the scripture never portrayed God as a burning bush. God choses the best form and medium to appear to His people and dream is one of them. I won't continue to argue with you on this. Unfortunately he has not appeared in any form for a long long time... Just in the bible. Are we expected to believe that? You want to talk about digressing from the topic? Who brought the issue of four legged insect to the discussion. If he wasn't caught, would he had brought that up. The scripture remains infallible. Nah... He only brought the issue of insect to further show u have inconsistent and ignorant the bible and its writers were. He was through with showing u that God appeared to Abraham and Abraham called him Lord(u can choose to believe it was in a human form, cool... Let him appear in a human form now) so he took a step further to reveal more fallacies... Give it up man... The bible is dumb |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by frank317: 9:58am On Oct 07, 2018 |
thesolutions: Insects has Six Legs. I just saw that. I never bothered to care about how many legs an insect has. I wouldn't want to justify the Scriptures by saying that it was written Thousands of years ago and, maybe, insects had four legs then. But I understand the message.
I also leant that sardines are unclean and shouldn't be eaten. It must be the reason some scientists think fish eats your brain instead of improving your brain. Lordreed, u messed this guy up and he ran away. Na so them de claim over sabi... Look at how he made a fool of himself. First he asked how capitalizing letters in a word changes the word, but when u showed him how, he quickly changed mouth and tries to twist things.. Then u showed him how insects didn't have four legs and he bailed before disgracing himself further... This was a fuxking hilarious read |
Crime › Re: Youth Corpers Say NO To Rape! (Pictures) by frank317: 5:06pm On Oct 04, 2018 |
"Pay me first" means?
Happily chopping the guys money And giving him hope and greedily wacking all eatables means?
If u don't want don't even encourage the guy by getting drunk around him |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Atheists Prove God Does Not Exist? by frank317: 5:29pm On Oct 01, 2018 |
eventtinz: JWs are coerced into cultism with years of consistent indoctrination from childhood,The same system extremist Muslims use.They have the worst cases of pedophilia and general child abuse where the victim is supposed to present a witness to the JW elders and are not allowed to report to authorities ...Religion has a lot of stupidity .however ,JWs set the bar in terms of solipsism and hypocrisy backed back pseudo-knowledge and misinformation.Dont argue with them ...they are dogmatic and have amoral views. The guys is just sounding like someone whose brain in the bottle quoting bible like it was written by him. Now he is telling me snake used to walk and God cursed it in it started crawling... I don't think snake would have been as fast as it is if it was walking... How is that even a curse? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Atheists Prove God Does Not Exist? by frank317: 5:26pm On Oct 01, 2018 |
TATIME: Well today man have become familiar with the condition but not happy with it, (Ecclesiastes 3:11) because even though you know people do die yet if someone close to you dies you'll still feel the pains.(John 11:35) So it's appropriate for intelligent creatures to ask "why must we grow old, get sick and die?" According to scientists, the cells in our body always replace themselves, they are working as cleaners, guards, traffic wardings, transporters and so on. And they don't grow old but lately it has been proved that there is what is called "glutathione" that starts to diminish in our bodies as soon as we clock 20 so that the cells becomes weaker by the day,then come accelerated aging with other illnesses before we eventually die. Whereas the book has said God has set a limit for us so after we clock 70 the remaining part of our lives is no more spent in sound health. Psalms 90:10 If u are expected to grow from a child to a man, why should getting old be a puzzle... What does this question have to do with anything God... What has getting old got to do with God? As for the snakes the Bible is specific that God created this animal with legs before it was cursed so it's obvious that the "book" has ready-made answers to life's most important questions! Lol... It was cursed and the legs jumped into its belly? Doesn't sound like a curse to me... The snake is still fast, go almost anywhere it wants to, its still dangerous as wise, never seen bruises on the belly of a snake... U are here saying it was cursed its still living like a snake. Besides if the devil possessed snake and deceive man what is it being cursed for Was it snake that deceived man's or devil? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Atheists Prove God Does Not Exist? by frank317: 3:27pm On Oct 01, 2018 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Can Atheists Prove God Does Not Exist? by frank317: 12:40pm On Oct 01, 2018 |
TATIME: Thanks for that thoughtful question! Remember Satan told Adam and Eve that if the choose to rebel against HIM (1) They will not die "this has proven to be false" (2) Their eyes are bound to be opened "this has proven to be false because man has continued in unimaginable stupidity" (3)They will be like God knowing good and evil "this is what remains to be settled because most humans still think they can solve their problems from their own perspectives but sincerely speaking a higher intelligent being (God) is needed in solving problems that's peculiar amongst intelligent creatures having different thoughts and reasonings" But mankind have been brainwashed by Satan to rely on their own understanding, that's why God sent preachers to go and meet them in their homes to enlighten those who are HUMBLY seeking a solution to all these problems, if God is satisfied that everyone have seen and noticed these peacemakers then HE will take action because nobody will have an excuse to say "i never saw them" Matthew 24:14 Meaningless load of crap. Since he can create conditions that will make man not fall out, what has he been waiting for? Why allow for many to be born leaving this condition and more are born into the situation. Which problem does not need a higher being to help solve? |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Saw Angel Michael This Morning By 5 by frank317: 7:21am On Oct 01, 2018 |
Lol...  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Atheists Prove God Does Not Exist? by frank317: 7:04am On Oct 01, 2018 |
TATIME: The arrangement is STRICTLY for those who are willing to OBEY HIS instructions and adhere to scriptural principles. At that time all stumbling blocks like death,sickness,natural disasters,famine and others will be no more so there is no excuse for failure, but when people err they can quickly retrace their step before been called upon. That means at that time, he will create certain conditions that will make its impossible for people to sin... What stopped from creating that conditions all these while? Whats the whole drama for? Why leave those conditions knowing they are what makes man fail, then decide to take of the conditions after many have failed and he had to exterminate them... How does this even make sense? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Atheists Prove God Does Not Exist? by frank317: 10:53am On Sep 30, 2018 |
TATIME: Hmmmmmmmmmm well it's simple my friend, there will never be any mass extermination again after the last extermination because each person will now be held responsible for his own actions, there will still be errors and since only Christians will be permitted to live that time, they agreed that they're sinners(individuals prone to error) so they'll HUMBLY accept discipline but no more intentional evildoers. Psalms 37:9-11 What's this? How do u even feel spewing this trash? Its getting irritating and u are beginning to sound unreasonable. Are people not held accountable to their actions now? People always fail... How does God intend to stop people from failing after the extermination |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Atheists Prove God Does Not Exist? by frank317: 9:09am On Sep 30, 2018 |
TATIME: HE takes no delight in exterminating people but what HE will not tolerate is willfully hurting others without a remorse. HE is ever ready to assist HIS creatures when they make mistakes but there is a sharp contrast between errors and intentions. Adam and Eve HE exterminated for good because they blamed HIM for their wrongdoings instead of agreeing they're at fault. That's what Atheism is saying today "HE should show HIS face and correct all these mishaps or get lost" in other words your folks are saying "people are agitating furiously and doing evil because HE is hiding HIS face" but what about an atheist as an individual? They're ready to join others in doing as they're pleased so HE shouldn't give them any instruction. So HE won't tolerate that forever but after mankind has been fully redeemed back to HIM, HE promised to answer immediately we're calling upon HIM(Isaiah 65:24) but before then we must prove that we're truly sorry and remain on HIS side. Thanks for the long rant... Now answer my question... What does he intend to do to people who fall out after he had exterminated the first set... Humans fall out and fall inline most times... No one is perfect so will exterminate once again the people who fall out after the first set of extermination? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Atheists Prove God Does Not Exist? by frank317: 7:30am On Sep 30, 2018 |
TATIME: That's more like it,you know i love intelligence whenever i notice it. Well HE said after this extermination ONLY those who are obedient to the ideologies or teachings of Jesus will survive,because they're the ones who agreed that peaceful coexistence depends on tolerance not being vindictive so if all of them are ready to do that there will be total peace. All true Christians will be resurrected FIRST and ancient faithful servants of God as RIGHTEOUS ones,but what about our dead ancestors who live by conscience and had no opportunity to learn what true Christians are preaching and teaching their neighbors today? They will be resurrected as UNRIGHTEOUS ones and all of us together will have longer time to learn and master Jesus' thoughts, words and actions perfectly because we'll be given 1,000 years. Then Satan will be released again for the final test and whoever chose to follow Satan by then is on his own because Jesus has finished His own assignment so His blood will not work for anybody again that time. Then Satan and all those who still fall for his tricks will be exterminated for good, then Jehovah said HE will create new things because the other time HE only had a break. So that's the whole arrangement for faithful ones who remain obedient to the end. It's all written in the document but since you guys aren't interested in the book that's why i never quoted but if you want the quotations i'll give you. All these sounds like fairy tale to me.... How does ur brain even believe them and hold unto them? Its quite shocking my brother. My own is... We have seen good Christians act bad in certain situations... We have also seen bad people change and become good only to change at certain times and do bad again. Human mind is dynamic, the fact that u call urself a Christian does not mean u are perfect... People fall out and fall in and fall out all the time... If ur God exterminates bad people, what will he do to the people that fall out later, exterminate them again? How long will he continue exterminating people? |
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Christianity Etc › Re: If An Atheists Goes For Interview, What Will He/she Choose As Religion by frank317: 7:14am On Sep 30, 2018 |
This is the kind of thread that remains me how stupid an average Nigerian can be all because of religion.
I say I am a Christian in an interview how does that change anything? Does it mean I am going to heaven? Does it make Yahweh happy? The petty things una God always likes... No hope for this country sha if the youths can't even think. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Atheists Prove God Does Not Exist? by frank317: 12:47pm On Sep 29, 2018 |
TATIME: You can't just feel happy knowing that some people will be killed but when it's the ONLY option for a relief then you'll accept it without hesitation. You can't just walk up your street at night due to fear not of werewolves or vampires but intelligent creatures like you taking delight in stealing and harming others, your woman mustn't be left alone sleeping behind unlocked doors, some feels like mating with their genders and even with animals yet they still want to have intimate relations with careful humans. Some are just bullies of all sought ranging from physical abuse to verbal,oppression and dominating others in a cruel way. Of course right thinking persons will become blissful on hearing that all these perpetrators of evil will be NO MORE. You won't like to live in cages after enjoying life as intelligent creatures so your freewill shouldn't be replaced with instinct like that of a dog or goat. Therefore those who have the chance to live as intelligent creatures but aren't making life bearable for fellow creatures MUST BE EXTERMINATED. Unless you have a better option than that.  Even common humans have judicial system that determines if someone deserves certain punishment.. Yes its flawed but its something and it shows that before u met out punishment... U determine intent, mental state of the person etc... But ur God who should understand better, wants to exterminate sinners just because they don't obey his egoistic ass. He got it all wrong from the beginning, said he gave man choice and self will like he didn't know the effect of it all... My question is what will he do after he exterminate bad people, knowing that even good humans are capable of doing bad. Will he start over and exterminate the ones who turn bad after the first extermination? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Not Pierce Holes On Our Ears? by frank317: 8:55am On Sep 29, 2018 |
annyplenty: listen to the message attached, you will hear so many bible verses. I don't use perfume because most perfumes are seductive.
God told Moses to make perfume to be used for ministry work. He mentioned the ingredients to be used and the quantity to be used. He even commanded that nobody should repeat it on their own. See the scripture below.
Exo 30:34 And the LORD said unto Moses, Take unto thee sweet spices, stacte, and onycha, and galbanum; these sweet spices with pure frankincense: of each shall there be a like weight:
Exo 30:35 And thou shalt make it a perfume, a confection after the art of the apothecary, tempered together, pure and holy:
Exo 30:36 And thou shalt beat some of it very small, and put of it before the testimony in the tabernacle of the congregation, where I will meet with thee: it shall be unto you most holy.
Exo 30:37 And as for the perfume which thou shalt make, ye shall not make to yourselves according to the composition thereof: it shall be unto thee holy for the LORD.
Exo 30:38 Whosoever shall make like unto that, to smell thereto, shall even be cut off from his people.
From the scripture above, you can see from the underlined, what to be used to make perfume to be used for ministry work alone. He even commanded that it should not repeated for themselves except for God, and that it is holy unto the Lord if you follow His composition and must be used for ministry work alone.
By the time you get to Proverb 7, Satan has started manufacturing his own perfume, not according to God's composition, and used for prostitution
Pro 7:10 And, behold, there met him a woman with the attire of an harlot, and subtil of heart.
Pro 7:11 (She is loud and stubborn; her feet abide not in her house:
Pro 7:12 Now is she without, now in the streets, and lieth in wait at every corner.)
Pro 7:13 So she caught him, and kissed him, and with an impudent face said unto him,
Pro 7:14 I have peace offerings with me; this day have I payed my vows.
Pro 7:15 Therefore came I forth to meet thee, diligently to seek thy face, and I have found thee.
Pro 7:16 I have decked my bed with coverings of tapestry, with carved works, with fine linen of Egypt.
Pro 7:17 I have perfumed my bed with myrrh, aloes, and cinnamon.
Pro 7:18 Come, let us take our fill of love until the morning: let us solace ourselves with loves.
Pro 7:19 For the goodman is not at home, he is gone a long journey:
Pro 7:20 He hath taken a bag of money with him, and will come home at the day appointed.
Pro 7:21 With her much fair speech she caused him to yield, with the flattering of her lips she forced him. Look at how something written to somebody called Moses in another culture, society and time is a guide for u in 2018 in faraway Nigeria. You don't even know who those people are, if they really connected with the creator or made it up, u don't even know if the story is true, u just carry am for head. Fuq it... I thank God everything religion have been stripped off me. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Asking Someone To Prove Thay "God Doesnt Exist" Is Ignorance. by frank317: 10:14pm On Sep 28, 2018 |
Even if God exists... He is as useless as the letter g in neighbour |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Not Pierce Holes On Our Ears? by frank317: 9:58pm On Sep 28, 2018 |
annyplenty: And have you read from the bible how God condemns earring? How can you try to enhance what God Himself had proclaimed as beautiful? You are only making such abominable rather than beautiful before God. I can condemn earring. I cannot condemn others but I can condemn and rebuke the ungodly acts of others based on the Word of God. Hope u do not barb ur hair to look nice because that would mean u are enhance ur look. Hope u do not wear perfume because u are telling God the natural smell he gave u is bad... Pls why can u condemn earring and not condemn others? Pls which verse condemns earring in the Bible. |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Not Pierce Holes On Our Ears? by frank317: 6:41pm On Sep 28, 2018 |
annyplenty: Your arguments do not correlate with what we are saying!
God, Himself was the one that clothed Adam and Eve after their fall. And through out the bible, He gives guidelines on how we dress. You know the purpose the clothes and shoes serve. What purpose do the ears you pierce serve for your daughters and sons serve? Did God ask u to use perfume? U keep on asking what piecing on the ear is for... Its for fixing earring to enhance beauty just like everything u do to look nice... U wear perfume, put on nice shoes (not bathroom slippers), comb it hair rub cream etc... U cannot condemn earring and not condemn others. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Atheists Prove God Does Not Exist? by frank317: 5:06pm On Sep 28, 2018 |
LordReed: They like conflating chance actions with actions of a God. So God sat back and watched Hitler murder 6million people and did nothing till the allies entered Berlin and still Hitler had to suicide (allegedly). SMH. I think higher brain functions were suspended for him to be able to write that rubbish down. The bad news is that the guy thinks he is intelligent.. Nigeria don suffer |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Atheists Prove God Does Not Exist? by frank317: 4:37pm On Sep 28, 2018 |
TATIME: Thanks for all the compliments! The story is just to tell you all that Jehovah is not to be tested for spectacular display, HE does things for reasons so if your former religions taught you that HE must always perform miracles on your behalf for you to remain faithful then go and arrest them. Asking Him to repeat what HE has done in the past for the coming generations to know or believe in HIM is pointless because even if HE does your generation will go and the next generation will still come and demand that HE does it again (even if you write it down and sign to testify to it) The book said Naaman the leper from Syria was cleansed whereas there were many lepers in Israel during the days of Elisha, when HIS only begotten son reminded FAITHLESS Jews about this unfavorable event they wanted to kill Him,but that's the truth in black and white.Luke 4:27-30 God has a reason for rearranging the laws of nature so don't expect HIM to do it just because you are not convinced HE exists. According to the Book if it's just eight as in 8 that's faithful to HIM,don't bother they can fill the earth again.  The story about Ojukwu ordering killing JWs is a big fat lie. Jehova does things for a reason and the reasons keep getting dumber and dumber.. Wonder why more than 1/3 of his creations either do not believe he exists, or are confused about him and deliberately disobey him despite his might and authority. Keep on making him sound clueless... A God that does not know how to show his creation that he is their creator without them doubting or getting confused, is that one God? Even the sun does not need to do much for everyone to know its there. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Atheists Prove God Does Not Exist? by frank317: 2:07pm On Sep 28, 2018 |
TATIME: Having faith is not about making a spectacular display my friend, it's about the last resort when all other options failed. During the Nigerian civil war, Ojukwu gave his soldiers the order to exterminate all the JWs remaining in their custody. Why? Because the food they had is finishing and he won't like the little to be managed by his loyalists shared with these "pessimists". After many JWs have died the remaining were lined up for execution and the unexpected happened. The weapons won't work if aiming at the JWs but towards any other objects even big trees are destroyed but against the JWs the weapons won't just work. So the soldiers decided to starve them to death. Jehovah's Witnesses all around the globe heard it and we were made to understand that Jehovah intervened because HE doesn't want the preaching and teaching work that's already making progress in that region to end so that the organization will start all over again bringing missionaries. That's how miracles happen not just for a show. Matthew 4:5-7  Funny story... Never heard this. Is this what they preach in ur church to make u feel special. Why will Ojukwu order that they should kill JWs? Why them specifically... Where they eating more food than others? Where from other tribe? This story is funny. And so God allows them to kill some and save some... Maybe they killed the useless ones, lol... What kind of miracle is this... Even if u tell my dog this story he will ask u for a brain check. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Atheists Prove God Does Not Exist? by frank317: 6:05pm On Sep 27, 2018 |
TATIME: You have tried my friend and it's just nice discussing with a nice guy like you, but let me just give you the SIGN that you desire so much. First be determined to remain neutral when a large crowd of critics are coming together against a peaceful group. Secondly do not give your consent when you see the innocent being persecuted for no just cause. Thirdly open your mind and don't let them initiate you into fighting a wrong cause. All of these will save you when Jehovah (Yahweh) comes to exterminate those HE classified as WICKED, because HE will never destroy anyone unless the person stand face to face against HIM. How can someone do that? By intentionally rendering your conscience dead and following the crowd to do evil. All those HE exterminated in the past were guilty of this single crime, apart from this i'm sure you'll see HIM and bow before HIM one day. Thanks my good friend.  Lol... Except Jehovah comes after I am dead... I will definitely stand face to face with him. I have a special punishment for him when we catch him... A hot rod into his anus... Next time when creating a world, he should grow some sense |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Atheists Prove God Does Not Exist? by frank317: 3:14pm On Sep 27, 2018 |
TATIME: #LordReed&frank317: How i wish you guys continue asking thought provoking questions regarding the falsehood that misinformed churchgoers have spread all over the place,and start getting the PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS of what's in the Bible. I'm sure you'll continue to wonder why most people don't understand things from this perspective or as usual say "this is bullshit". But that's what preaching and teaching is all about, it's not about always getting all that you ever wanted now from God because it's during HIS Kingdom that all will be well.  None of my questions are about falsehood... U have no answer and when u try ur answers are not coherent. All my questions are about actual things God did. Just two questions and ur answer seem wrong. 1. Me:Who did cain married. You: his sister, incest was right then because there was not law then. Law came after man fell. Me: did man fall before cain married or after cain married. You:.... 2. Me: why did god destroy the earth with water only to achieve nothing. You: he destroyed the earth to curb evil and and prepared the world for training Me: so what evil was there before the training or flood, that isn't present now during the training or after the flood. How did the destruction change anything? You.... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Atheists Prove God Does Not Exist? by frank317: 3:07pm On Sep 27, 2018 |
TATIME: Thanks for that beautiful thought provoking question! Am i permitted to say "God bless you" for that fine leading question? Well HE didn't intend to start the training program before or after the global deluge because "humans haven't taste nothing yet regarding the consequences of rebellion" HE wants all humans to see clearly that human rulers will continue to dominate them to great pains. Ecclesiastes 4:1.8:9 After choosing a nation and giving them rules,they also demanded for a "human king" and that really sucks all the sweetness they had. Jesus is the person sent to establish the training program, today there is almost 8million Christians globally preaching and teaching about God's Kingdom zealously. Unfortunately most people like you would say there is over 2billions of Christians thereby counting Atheists(misinformed churchgoers who want sharp sharp pleasures) as part of the followers of Christ. You asked for the achievements, Yes, less than 8millions have to dropped weapons totally and never to think of carrying it again,they have become lovers of neighbors never thinking of racism anymore, they have been taught how to keep their marital vows till death, they have been taught how to be tolerant in all situations so they don't join in protests, they have become like brothers and sisters all across the globe, they have eliminated prejudice in their midst and they're now waiting PATIENTLY for HIM to do what HE has ordered them not to do: EXTERMINATING those who are making all these trainings difficult to go round! 8million people doing what? First... 8 million is nothing compared to the number of people on earth, even in Lagos alone. Second, I am yet to see just one person who have those characteristics u described above... I see good people do things that surprise me every day and I am like" I never he was capable of this" Third being good or bad has nothing to d with religion. I have see no Christians who are way much better than any christian I have met. U are definitely living in ur own world, where its all about ur own imagination. If ur God is coming to exterminate anyone, he should be ready to exterminate all of us or majority of his creation. Extermination is not a new thing... People have been dying for ages, more people have died than the number alive... I guess he has always been dong this extermination business. I think we have had enough discussion... U as the well informed churchgoer has said nothing intriguing about ur God... If nothing, u made him sound both foolish, psychotic and clueless. I have not even asked u enough question on ur believe u are already turning me off... But I am not surprised, u guys never fail to disappoint. Just one question for u... Why should I b a Christian? Being an atheist is the best thing that could happen to me... I believe in me, depend on me and achieve all I want all by myself. I don't waste time praying, fasting tithing, going to church, yet I achieve as much as those who do. No fear of hell, or hope of meaningless heaven. Gods existence does not bother me, and in fact he is a total waste of peoples time and I am free of his addiction just like a former drug addict would feel. So tell me, why should I he a Christian? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Atheists Prove God Does Not Exist? by frank317: 1:20pm On Sep 27, 2018 |
TATIME: The extermination during Noah's time is not to set matters straight but to curb the prevailing evil before the global training begins. Oh my God. God killed the whole world and selected 8 people who still continued in sin and u say it was to curb the prevailing evil? He couldn't have use that time to create a better world? There were materialized angels having sex indiscriminately with beautiful women,children born to them were growing up fast and becoming untamed giants, they were stealing, raping and killing at will. So to curb the situation God brought a global deluge and all the giants died. And to curb evil was to kill everyone... How about taking off just the giants .. Is there any sin that was happening then that is not happening now? HIS intention is to allow mankind bear the consequences of disobedience that occurred in the garden of Eden, HE has arranged that there should be a global training for OBEDIENT humans after the world has seen enough of the evil consequences of disobedience,Jesus came and started the worldwide training by choosing 12 Jews to go from house to house begging (preaching) and enlightening (teaching) sincere hearted people what has been happening. After the global training, those who accepted the training from God's only begotten son will be allowed to continue living forever while those who disregard the arrangement will be EXTERMINATED. HE is not in a hurry so none of us can force HIM to speed up the show because we want a solution SHARP SHARP. Many can't benefit from this program because they're not ready to OBEY  Lol... U are still saying the same thing... God should have not how ineffective this global training would he. He must be the worst planner on earth. Pls what's this training all about? People have claimed to receive this training and we see nothing... In fact I am yet to see any one who has gotten this training and what they had done with it. Yet its all about a man who died a long time ago in far away isael with no prove of his existence even as cultures are growing and new information are being learned... Ur God think people will take his training seriously... With him acting like a mad man while the only prove of him are seen on the pages of a book. Smh |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Atheists Prove God Does Not Exist? by frank317: 1:08pm On Sep 27, 2018 |
LordReed: LoL! I like your answer.
Imagine, Satan that has seen God is still evil and free, it is men that have not even seen his little toe that he destroys willy nilly. It shows the incredible lack of critical thinking skills. So crazy... Satan has been enjoying everything life has to offer.. Meanwhile yawheh is planning to exterminate wicked men.... How is this a good plan for gods sake. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Atheists Prove God Does Not Exist? by frank317: 10:40am On Sep 27, 2018 |
TATIME: #frank317&LordReed: My God said EXTERMINATION of rebellious creatures is inevitable if there's going to be a perfect system(Psalms 37:7-11,Proverbs 2:21,22,John 3:16-18,Revelations 11:18) But you guys are opposed to the idea, please tell me how your TRUSTED fellow man can bring about a relief without exterminating rebellious antagonists? Simple We're the TRUE Christians and the ONLY sign our God promised to give everyone both HIS worshippers and unbelievers is the highest power of reasoning as in wisdom beyond compare(Isaiah 54:17) so our righteousness as in knowing what's RIGHT will beat that of all critics. (Isaiah 48:18) If you know what's right please let's hear you out, not insult or anger due to inner feelings of defeat during an open debate.  Good men can be bad, bad men can be good. How many people will ur God exterminate to get a perfect society. I have told u that even as nice as u think u are, some situations can make u act bad... Right now as u are typing here someone somewhere see u as a bad man. Some thieves are like that because of conditions while others a plain wicked... Those u call bad people still have loved ones... Who is ur Gos eliminating and who is he leaving. The same extermination was done during Noah's time.. What did he achieve with that. U seem to worship a god who takes decisions like a mad man. Thousands of years of planning to make the world a better place, and the best way is to exterminate evil people. How about using his God power and set the conditions for living right. How is he planing to establish a perfect world if he exterminates bad people... By killing more bad people? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Atheists Prove God Does Not Exist? by frank317: 8:03am On Sep 27, 2018 |
TATIME: Thanks for the compliment,it's really a timely one at that but you're missing the import my questioning. There are believers in all those fields working tirelessly to help with all their might and you don't even know my profession so it's funny the way you're concluding that i'm contributing nothing to salvage the situation on ground. My question again is this: Man has continued to dominated his fellow man to stupor,injustice is rampant, crime of all sought, billions are dying of malnutrition,many are frustrated despite all that nature has got to make life sweet, there are gladiators for riches and power and the common man is humiliated everyday. All these inventories aren't doing nothing to all mentioned above, so there's urgent need for a relief. My God has promised me that i should continue to do all that's virtuous and as for those evildoers HE is coming to EXTERMINATE them all.But it seems you're opposed to the idea and have a better option than extermination of disobedient ones, that's what brought about the question "How will your TRUSTED fellow man solve these problems without exterminating those responsible for all these ruins?"  Ur God created a messy world and the best he can do us exterminate people for doing the evil he created or allowed to happen. U God created man and gave him self will, imputing in him all program man is responding to. Man could be good or bad, evil or anything giving the condition he finds himself and you and I know that as means of survival gets scarce, need to survive becomes a more of a desperate life style and some innate violent programming must surface when the pressure is much. Instead of helping out as a God, loving one at that, his intention is to exterminate. What was he doing when the world he created became this corrupt? What's the guarantee that the new world will still not be corrupt since he failed in the first one? U sound like a psycho but u have been so blinded by religion that u fail to see how unreasonable u sound... But then... What can I say? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Atheists Prove God Does Not Exist? by frank317: 7:38am On Sep 27, 2018 |
TATIME: Nope i disagree with that. Empty if you choose not to investigate thoroughly perhaps due to been hasty for some other reasons. Full if you choose to investigate thoroughly as in asking thought provoking questions always. Most of you are dwelling on what misinformed religious churchgoers taught and spread. If you're having a form of document containing a will that you are part of the beneficiaries, of course you won't hastily conclude on what another prospective beneficiary says for fear he too might not be well informed. A single check of $5b could be written in your name,the novice asked to deliver the enveloped check threw it in an empty bag, if someone tell you that the man standing at the bus stop holding a seemingly EMPTY bag has a fortune to deliver to you. You could easily walk away because you can't see anything heavy in the bag! So my friend, Empty and Full is determined by how inquisitive you're.  U keep saying that most of us are relying on misinformed churchgoers. Shebi u are an informed churchgoer, I have been interacting with u yet u say I rely on misinformed churchgoers. Are u not an informed Churchgoer? What thought provoking questions do u want us to ask. I actually became an atheist because not even one of my questions where answered with out opening a bag of questions. Last time I asked u who cain married, u said, his sister. Claiming incest was right at then because there was no law prior to the fall of man. But when I asked if man fell before of after Cain married... U didn't respond. In have millions of thought provoking questions u cannot answer, despite claiming to be spiritual |