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hopefulLandlord:
I've obviously addressed this part in my post, do well to read it again

What made you come to this conclusion? even proponents of fine tuning would say its highly improbable, they'll never say its "zero"

But I'm not even concerned about whether the universe is fine tuned or not, I'm more concerned about where the argument leads after accepting it, what they conjure to explain what they say fine tuned it; an entity that exists in a place where no fine tuning is needed for it to exist who then creates fine tuned universe for its intelligent creation to exist who wouldn't have existed otherwise? sounds like a very stupid argument to me

In the other paragraph I explained that fine tuning argument is even more stupid when one takes into cognizance the entity they claim is responsible, an entity that can do anything anyhow and get any result from it so fine tuning actually points to NO god because the entity they're talking about could've made the earth 5,000 times hotter and could still make it support life of intelligent beings if he wanted



Most of these arguments theists bring up are created simply to box one around and give up when arguing against, they want you to be focused on the argument rather than where it leads so once you accept their argument you'd realise it heads nowhere


Anyways, to each its own I guess and if you find it convincing be my guest

you know, sometimes I wonder why it is important to both the supposedly fine tuner and believers why we should accept the universe was fine tuned. What purpose does this serve? why is the finer tuner who is arrogant enough bot to show himself bothered with us believeing that he, despite never been seen, believe he somehow fine tuned our universe?

I cannot help but imagine a jobless clueless unrealistic fine tuner

Lol... u took a picture of u standing with mad man u supposedly healed. U also took a picture of u cutting his hair
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But u somhow failed to take the most important pix where u were having lunch with the supposedly healed mad man.

Only ur hair style shows u are a guy man and a scam.

Pls anybody from this village confirm this story? Is there a new mad man in ur village who has taken over from chinedu?

Chinedu open a facebook account and show us ur present pix... we already have one of when u were mad...

Anas09:
What kind of books do you read? The ones that tutors you how to poison people around you?

Anas09:
You wish you know me.

For ur mind

winner01:
You haven't been challenging Christians here, you've been ridiculing and mocking Christians, even those who didn't preach to you. That's unhealthy.

I remember my Teacher in junior school, warning me that I will fail if I don't study hard. I didn't challenge her and I'm better off.

I can also decide to come down to your level, and be unwilling to respect an atheist who tells me: "I'm an accident of nature" or "when I'm dead, I'm dead" or "there is neither good nor bad" or "I shouldn't believe in a Creator" and other nonsenses.

Be free for once dude.

If an atheist authoritatively tells u that u came from an accident(whatever that means) oga, tell him to prove to u and if at the end of the day u dont understand what the hell he is saying , tell him to go to hell with his useless belief

Anas09:
These are the kind of books you read and you'd expect me to pause and talk to you? No. We flow at different wave lengths. I read Biographies of great men like Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln. Alexander the Great, Winston Churchhill and the present American President Donald J. Trump. What made these men who they were and are.

Gerrout of here.

U read these kind of books and u are still like this... no hope for u

adjoviomole:
Thread closed. Yall can say whatsoever you like it's non of my business. Now go on and have a good and lovely day bye.

no one took u serious. we see ur kind regularly, u come out embarrass urself and slide back into ur shameless shell. Yahweh have been disappointing ya all right from time immemorial, soon ur eye go clear.... u have been tricked all ur life

adjoviomole:
Yeah read on bro. And those that have instructions do them, get the things needed for them and do, and don't forget picture evidences of the things you are told to get and when you get them.

lol.... now u need picture evidence. Where is ur own picture evidence of what ur uncle did and what happened to him?

where is picture evidence of your God? have u guys ever brought one single picture evidence of all ur claims?

johnydon22:
Ogbeni you are just afraid and unsure .. You just realizing it doesn't work but too afraid to admit.

You said this

If you are not lying let me die right this minute.

If swearing worked and you are indeed saying the truth, I should be dead in seconds.

But assuming swearing works and you are lying, I will start looking all over for you in the future to make sure you are not successful in life.

Please which year counts as the future so I will know when to begin my search?

I like the way you shift the goal post to something else when stumped

Please drop the show of shame already.

lol.. he is trying to use the same tricks his pastors use on him
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I see vision that u will be successful in life. Young man hustles and becomes successful, the pastor takes the glory and ask his to come and give him his cut

johnydon22:
Is that not same thing?

Or does swearing not work?

It is called conditional swearing...lol

johnydon22:
"I have read"

This was my very first reply to this thread.

But reading it wasn't enough immediately you read that comment but now reading it is something?

Is this how fast things zip through your mind?

And again to go further I just downloaded it again

Lol...

adjoviomole:
Like I said, my uncle read and did some of the things in the book, and he saw what he was looking for.

Tell us about ur uncle... who was he before and after he read and followed the instruction in the book

festwiz:
I once postulated that you cannot separate fear from christianity. They are afraid of everything. Their fear keeps them in chains, while the pastor/priest commands the key.

Christians believe god has given them power to conquer evil yet, they are the most superstitious bunch. Why though? Are they sacred the power is not enough or are they aware of their lacking power of any kind?

They try to imbue their fears on you as well so that you join a link in the chain. Sad really. Christians are like a gun without ammo. They lack no power but try to make you submissive through fear.

#Peace

Lol... they pary without ceasing, go vigil, deny themselves of food, eat the bible, claim to be protected... a thousand shall fall by their right, a thousand by their left but they shall stand, if the lord does not watch the city, the watchman watcheth in Vain.

Yet at the sound of coachroch at night i hear them screaming Jesus! Every bird that flies above their head is evil. They fear village more than anything. Someone is always pursing them. They world is their enemy.

My guy.... their matter tire me... and some butterflylion still does not know he has a mental problem.

dalaman:
What is this?

Another deluded Christian... i think so much dumbness is begining to tire me out of this forum...


Retirement things loading....

What if the man was in his sixies but is willing to buy u chiomaporshe?


Say the truth... u wouldn't lead to church but to the nearest hotel

Omooba224:
People tend to ignorantly term someone who doesn't belong to any "organized religion" as an atheist whereas there are different meanings to different religious terms.
I would like to briefly explain the the religious terms.
Agnostic: Someone who doubts the existence of God. A person who is uncertain whether there is God or not such thing. There are different forms of agnostic namely; atheist agnostic, theist agnostic etc
Atheist:[/b]A person that doesn't believe in the existence of a deity called God. He believes that there is nothing like the Supreme Being.
[b]Deist: This person believes in the existence of the universal Creator through human reasoning. He believes that the universe is governed by natural laws and God is not what most "revealed religions" portrayed him to be. The Creator doesn't involve himself in human activities and doesn't not have human attitudes.
Theist: A person who believes in a god as a result of Scripture brought by His prophets. He believes that God sent prophets to this Mother Earth in order to send messages to mankind. We are monotheist and polytheist. Monotheistic religions are Judaism, Christianity, Islam etc.
Hope these terms are now clearer? Nobody knows the true religion of God. Let's endeavor to talk and live in harmony among ourselves. Let's try to respect people's decisions toward religion. The best thing that can ever happen to mankind is LOVE

Peoples.decision towards religion can never be respected with christians telling u that u will go to hell for not believing in their crap.
Gone are the days when i was willing to respect beliefs
.. right now if u preach me crap i will challenge u and in five minutes u will get ur self running 4040

Anas09:
Frank, i am not responsible for your misfortune o. Be careful let the demon that flogged you before not flog you again. No be me send you.

Demons are already dealing with u na... u know what i mean

flamingREED:
Let your immoral life be destroyed by the sinful pleasure for which you have no shame.
May God punish you wholistically.
Let there be nothing left of your abominable existence.
Amen.

Mcheww... u are a clown afterall.

flamingREED:
Your devastation will be peculiar.

Rubbish... shame no even catch u...


Why do i have a feeling u are deliberately mocking yahweh

Anyway, butterflylion lion, see? Christians can never disappoint

flamingREED:
God destroy every good you have and forestall any fortune coming to your devilish being.
Amen.

Stop wasting ur time... stop allowing imaginary things make u act like a mad man

luvmijeje:
My God didn't start this crap. Men started it for selfish purpose.

Frankkkk....... How you deh?

I am fine babe...


Ya look deep u will see that religion has made a lot of people justify selfish actions... at the end of the day, its all the bibles fault.

Butterflyleo:
Still on their epileptic defensive fits from guilt.

See ur life. Ur own thread is making u hide in shame behind the curtain

luvmijeje:
Women should dress the way that makes them feel good. Enough of the men trying to control them. Enough of the blackmailing by the society. And enough of blaming them for for the misconduct of sexual predators.

Lol... your God started it

Emmanystone:
Lol. This is the next line you want to employ? You were unstable from the day you dropped out of the womb. You fell on you head and got your spilled on the floor. It wasn't noticed because it was mixed with birth blood.


Since Longevity is a Curse, may you die on the night that gets you to my age. But, listen, my God promised me Longevity as i serve Him, so i shall live to my old age. I shall see my great grand kids.

May you die on the day your wife goes into labour. You shall not see the face of your child, since that will make you old.

Thats emmanystone aka Analice... displaying so much bitterness hatred and anger... yet atheists are the hateful people...

Butterflylion pls cure urself of this mental disorder. Your believe in an unknown unseen creator who resides only in ur head is messing up...ask fellixomore what believe in yaweh did to him before he decided to take a rest.

Butterflylion: God exists, he loves u and will burn u in hell if u dont love him back

Atheists: i dont see any God, pls prove the existence of God and if God loves me why are u the one telling me... are u God?

Butterflylion: God exists, u cant see him, his ways are unknown, he lives in ur heart, he exists he lives beyond this universe, he has is eternal, he loves u, he will kill u, he died for u.... but human mind cannot comprehend him, he wants to have a ralationship with u.. blah blah blah..

Atheists: (Whats he saying?) Ur God idea is psychotic, its like someone who has personality disorder, u havent given me enough reason to see he exists, why not tell him to reach our to me, where is he? Ok get him to answer one or to question......... (nothing) ok let me provoke this ur God that u say is real to act.. he is mad, he is mentally unstable.....

Butterflylion: atheists are mentally unstable.. they say God dont exist yet they say he is mad...

Frank: my friend, prove your God exists and a stop wasting our time by acting like a deranged pig!!

emekrus:
Well guys, I see you don't like the ways of the omniscient God. It is way beyond your simple minds. And that is why he is your creator. And you couldn't create yourself. If you know better, then you should have created yourselves. Wouldn't you think?

No one knows how we came to be. Stop making up funny and senseless stories and then call it ur creator.
U have no access to any creator, u did not here any voice.. but if it was actually the creator that told you that he allowed the woman pain because he knew she could handle it... then both of u need to check into the nearest mental home for the sake of humanity.

HardMirror:
lol. It is unfortunate we lack intelligent christians on nairaland to trash issues with. We have to endure the intellectual assault inflicted on us by these market women

So sad

Butterflyleo:
And you actually imagined yourself being capable of provoking the creator

You are the true definition of one having delusions of grandeur. It perfectly fits into your psychotic episodes.

Lol... your God does not exist, go hug a transformer

Butterflyleo:
And he is still here talking about this same God he says does not exist.

Hey Frankie boy here is a megaphone. Use it to shout God does not exist louder and maybe that non existent God would hear you since you earlier said you wish to provoke the same non existent God to act.

Psychosis on fleek

Oh... has he gone deaf? Lol... ur creator is deaf. Well thanks for the mega phone

dalaman:
Not only defender but mouth peice as well. The other day he was telling you that Jesus loves you endlessly. So Jesus loves you endlessly and it is butterflyleo that is telling you abi?

No wonder he is busy shouting mad man mad man anyhow. He is only describing himself. Of not a madman who speaks for a God na? Jesus is alive and love you endlessly but it is butterflyleo that knows it and is telling you. His madness is even lame.

The guys is actually insane... he believes and defends the creator yet he does not think something is not right.

Lol... he thinks he is in contact with the creator... delusion grandeur

Butterflyleo:
Lmao God does not exist to you but see you having psychotic episodes daily over him. Its like having daily psychotic episodes over nothingness aka non existence.

How can someone be this psychotically incensed by nothingness?

Stop fighting this straightjacket you are in, the insanity has already taken over

Embrace your destiny. Misery does love company. See you and your people having fun in your own world

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Eyaaa

God does not exist.. deal with it

Butterflyleo:
The dumbo is clearly you kid.

What you do not see is obviously blind to you. You claim God does not exist yet you still want to call the non existent thing names right? And you actually believe you are mentally sound abi?

But to you, you believe he does not exist yet you cannot just stop talking about him and calling him names despite him being non existent can you?

Your brain has surely knocked!

Whewww

Ok


God does not exist. The God idea i belive in is more of a psychotic and mentally unstable being....have u read ur bible... i didn't call him paychotic, the bible did, more reason why he is juts and idea.

Oga defender of the creator of the universe, u no even get shame. U suppose get super powet by now sha. Not even a single cape..fake ass defender