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vaxx:
it means people who help themselves. People who take care of their own responsibilities will have better things happen in their lives then people who don’t. So your child is part of your responsibility.

Agreed, people who take care of their own responsibilities are likely to have better things happen in their lives than people who don't. This is all it is... Not God helping them because they are helping themselves. If any God should help anyone, it should he those who can't help themselves.

Like many religious people, they don’t do much to take care of their own problems, and instead wish that an outside force would intervene on their behalf. It’s fine to hope to be blessed/have good things happen, but that wishing can’t be your primary way of dealing with the problems of life.

If I believe in God i will expect him to help me to make life extremely easier... What is the essence believing in God if my life will be no different from someone who does not care about God. I don't think lazy religious people should be blamed for waiting do external help.
And God should define his role... Its either he is there to help or not.

A similar saying is like trust in your security guide but untie your dog while sleeping at night.

Lol... Its either my security guide is useless or he is more effective with my dog untied... Either way, the security guide will not deserve so much pay for this.

Sorry this thread is a pure comic relief.

God did not help the people because they were not united.
Of what use will he be if the people were already united? Do u think a united people would have needed his help? I put it to u that a united people are already a strong hold against opposition, with or without any silly God.

Why will God help only those who help themselves? Where did he say this? If ur child is sick, will u not take him to hospital if he does not contribute a portion of his hospital bill?

Where is the winch who sent it?

akeensbussy:
CHRIST DIED FOR ALL SIN, BUT FORGIVENESS CAME TO AN INDIVIDUAL WHEN HE OR SHE REPENT AND BELIEVE.

The above statement validated my stand...he died for all sin, yet I will still have to repent and believe. The sins he had died for. why do I still need to repent from it again.

if the purpose of killing someone is to forgive everybody..why do they need to confess, repent and believe again. because the purpose of killing the person was that you know and believed that the people are sinners and that was why you killed your son.

Lol... The guys don't think. Before Christ died, how do they make heaven? Isnt it by repenting and asking for forgiveness? Christ death even made it worst, u have to believe first, then repent and ask for forgiveness.
Me think the death of Christ(if its true) is absolute bullcrap

Aaronsrod:
Na wa ooo!!

Only the God of Israel can lift our curse.

All we can do is tithe fast pray and obey without question.

Our only hope is to die and be reborn in Christ Jesus.

We can do nothing.

And u wonder why we are a backward people... We can do nothing but when oyibo do phone and internet u quickly use it while u still believe u can do nothing...

lingoafrica:
God Almighty is a provider, that is general knowledge, but if God wanted to do everything himself, he wouldn't have given man the wisdom to set up educational systems to provide knowledge. He wouldn't have allowed humans to have a government system.

It is a habit for Africans to keep asking God to take away their suffering, and to help them make their institutions stronger and more responsible. It is common to hear statements like God will help us or God will save us whenever a calamity arises.

This attitude has made Africans forget that they have a government and should hold their government responsible and accountable to their promises before they assumed office.

There are so many things that have gone wrong with Africa largely because her people would rather spend all their lives in churches and mosques praying for things to get better, while watching as their resources are wasted by wicked men and women in government and the future of their children yet unborn are placed at risk with shaky and corrupt institutions.

See more http://lingoafrica.com/africans-need-to-stop-asking-god-to-solve-their-problems/

If u think people should stop asking God for help, kindly explain to me Gods function as God in human affairs.
What's his duty? Why do humans worship him? Why is it necessary to acknowledge him when we don't need him?

what were u expecting from God? Has God finished helpin himself?

winner01:
You've never posted anything reasonable on this section. At least not in any of my threads.

After years u are still talking like a kid.

winner01:
We are not talking about the God you stress yourself about daily. As a matter of fact, no one has defined what johnydon meant by God.

So u open a thread for an undefined God.

Well I assume we are talking about ur God.

Majority of counter posts here are from Christians so...

winner01:
This is Seun's response to johnydon22's question: What would serve as evidence for God?




So let's quickly break this down.

This would bring us back to the same question most atheists ask today: "Which God".

Any theist can claim ownership of the miracle and that their God did it and we will still arrive at a stalemate. You'll still remind me that there are 5000+ gods and that I'll go to Shinto's hell if I believe in Confucius.

It won't solve any problem.


I addressed this part in my thread. Can a miracle be seen by everybody? Well, maybe when you finally agree that earth is flat.

Such rearrangement of stars cannot be seen by everybody and if it can, definately not at the same time.
This will bring up new arguments about a God not omnipresent and omnipotent, a god confined to the laws of nature. If such god is confined to the laws of nature, could it not mean that you and such god are similar prisoners of the cosmos?

Also, such request is selfish if you do not consider the unborn generation? I imagine them eventually asking; " which God would prove himself to my fathers and not myself? Definately their God, not mine.
Even if such an event is well documented and published, it still would prove nothing to those who didn't experience the event firsthand. In history, such publications have been dismissed by people who did not witness such event. Remember that skepticism is a vital element of science.

How do you solve that problem?


Scientific confirmation may not necessarily rule out collective error which could inturn lead to collective psychosis, especially if occurrences can't be testable and replicated. There are times in history when science got it wrong due to collective error. As a matter of fact, such unrepeated feat would at best negate the entire point of science and open people up to more pseudoscience.

Definately, as earlier explained, we should expect the coming generation to question our level of illusion and probably device ways to measure it. Collective psychosis is not unlikely, afterall majority of people in the world today already believe in the supernatural. The majority is not always infallible.


Some honesty right there...
FIRSTLY "You might be convinced" indicates a probability of disagreeing even if the evidence you requested is provided.
"I will agree" is a lot different from "I might agree".

But I still don't get it. If you are provided with the evidence that YOU CLAIM can change your beliefs, you still will be open to the probability that its all a hoax?
Do you really want to be convinced? I don't think so.

In fact, this is a wrong answer to Johnydon22s question. His question is "what will serve as evidence", not "what might serve as evidence".


SECONDLY, in your words, you might be convinced that there "exists a great mind out there which is capable of moving stars around in response to prayer". This is an absolute statement and does not answer Johnydon22s question.

A great mind out there....... does not imply God, you'll simply be using the "God of the gaps argument". A greater mind is simply a greater mind and nothing else.


Your evidence is inconsistent with the question and even if it wasn't, there'd still be too many loop holes to deal with.

Yet we are talking about a God that has infinite knowledge, someone who created the world in seven days with just words, someone whose ways are beyond our ways, yet he loves us so much that he wants us to know him... Sadly u are here telling us how impossible it is for him to prove himself to ordinary humans like us despite him wanting us to know him.

winner01:
You of all people, wey dey do temple run on many of my threads, deyask me this kain question

In order words, u don't even know the meaning of helter skelter here. People are responding to each other and u say one party is running helter skelter.
This is what I call butterflylion syndrome.
U speak and someone responds and u go about shouting the person is running helter skelter, meanwhile ur own restlessness brought about the opening of this thread.

Back to op (even though ur delusioned religious mind will see it as running helter skelter): I think I agree with u here. If God exist we wouldn't have atheists in the first place. Here we have a Christian who believes God can only exist by faith and if atheists don't have faith then he cannot exist to them.
So if I decide that I do not want any prove that God exits, I just want to believe without thinking it through, he will definitely exist "in my mind" as usual.
However if I need prove, his existence wouldnt be possible to me.

Summary of this thread... God cannot be proven.

winner01:
You see how atheists are running helter skelter on this thread? There's a reason behind it, and that reason is what this thread achieved.

What exactly is your definition of helter skelter here

udoka55555:
I don't support the guy...

its just waste of money..

why send 10# when you know very well that they will charge you 50#?

this is stupidity.

is it ur 50naira?

Shelumiel:
From my own point of view ,I think God showed Satan a little bit of everything : the wisdom behind creation , how the universe operated and it's mysteries. ..etc. So with the little knowledge he had acquired from God , he too felt he should be God, and he convinced the angels to follow him by displaying a bit of the knowledge God showed him .

Can Satan be God?
Do yo think its reasonable for Satan to think he can be God? Does that not make Satan stupid?
I understand a loyal servant trying to be king, I don't understand how a created can be a creator of the creator

The story sounds foolish if u ask me

orisa37:
We are talking of Christianity not Piggery 'cos you have discovered you are just a swine.

Why are u so pained... We are not the ones that asked your God to go into hiding

zionmde:
I believe the bible. In the same bible, little children below the age of 2yrs were murdered by Herod and God only saved Jesus. In the same bible, u can ask why didn't God stop him? He has reasons for all his actions, the one he wants us to know, he reveals it.
As for being deceived, I ask by who?
U are obviously not too exposed to the spiritual world. If u have absolute peace with ur life continue. If God wants to get u today it won't take him time. I have seen worst cases

If u don't know the reasons for Gods actions then u are just serving him blindly. The difference between me and u is that u chose to believe in a dormant God and force things that happens to just everyone (both those who he has promised special blessings and those he said would suffer in the hands of Satan if the don't worship him) on him.
U are not bothered that the God u serve does not help innocent infants (heck u are even giving me examples in the Bible) yet u say he does not intervene for a reason.
If I have the ability to help someone and I dont, telling I didn't do it for a reason will u be Happy with me?
I feel much reasonable and better than u because I dont worship a God who can save an infant and does not. I really don't care about his reasons, I am more bothered about the pains parents go through. If ur Gods reason does not solve it then that's a no no for me.
However I am worried that u are here making excuse for such negligence... Who makes excuse for a God... He has his reasons? Listen to urself smarthy pants

zionmde:
Its my life
Wen it was only Me and my decision, where was ur so called atheistic wisdom wen God held me back? He saved me and I owe him my life. No matter u twist it it will not change that

Becloud my head? lol, I don't know wat u think u know that makes u think u reason better than me. There is everything special about me. Nobody on earth can reason the way I reason, that's one out of many

Yet to see a single value? this is a faceless forum that's why, u will be shocked who u are arguing with online. So let's not dabble into personality. If u notice very well I have kept this argument far away from ur personality focus on the bone of contention pls

Yes I boast about my life in God. Am glad that wenever I talk to someone about myself I always let the person know that its God. Yes am proud my God made me whom I am today. If I die today, I will do that with smiles on my face.

Lol.. This creator seems to be for u alone. Unfortunately I don't see anything. U are just allowing ur emotions and desire get the best of u bro. I am just trying to make u see that what u call God is not really God... Such is happening and can happen to anyone with or without this belief. Its pretty clear that u have been deceived.
If ur God cannot save a little girl from being molested he cannot provide a laptop for u when u need it capish?

zionmde:
He has proved himself countless times to u but u refused to see it. Balaam didn't decipher Wat his donkey was communicating to him until he almost died

He should try harder... I can he obviously don't know to get things done... If I can't see that Almighty proving himself to me then perhaps he is not really the Almighty after all.

No God handed over the affairs of the world to man. He only intervenes when he is called upon. Angels don't engage until they are given the instruction to do so. I have stood in the gap for a lot of people and u might not believe the testimonies

Lol @ he only intervenes when called upon. So what happens to people like me who never called upon him. Why is our life no different from u who has bee calling on him. Ur God need to step up his game.

no u missed my point. Op told his story I didn't doubt, I didn't ask for evidence, I told mine suddenly all of u started shouting evidence evidence

Op told a normal story that every thinking person can comprehend and u told a supernatural story... Look at this two stories below

Op: i saw a girl run across the street

U: I saw a girl fly across the street.

In ur mind if the first one is believed, the second should also be believed? Are u for real? And u say u are scientifically inclined.

I mean standing in the gap in prayers. The reason for prayers is to take care of impending evil. a girl once called me that she and her little sister are about packing out of their house in the night because of her step mother. I was thousands of miles away I stood in the gap, a week later the girl who might have been sent to the streets told me the woman secretly packed her loads and ran away and hadn't returned for 1 week

And u fail to realize that u could have not prayed and the same result would still be achieved. I have seen better results for situations without a single prayer... U sound delusioned bro. There is life outside ur silly belief.

I can write a 200 paged book on those coincidences.
It started from my very tender age. I have seen so much in my life that nothing can ever convince me that it was nature. I don't care Wat u want to call it, but I am glad I believe Wat I believe today. last time I physically met an atheist who thinks that atheist means intelligence, I dropped religion and disgraced him scientifically. Its so popular for u guys to think u know more than religious people.

Well I put it to ur face that all u have described above that happen to u in ur exam, work place and apartment are just coincidence. Look at urself... Don't u sound layed back when the same thing u have been screaming God for is just so ordinary to me? U are trying to hard to bring God in an ordinary thing like getting a laptop when u least expect it... To me u make ur God sound clueless. U are lost in ur believe that u are making a mess of it by drawing it into coincidences.
Ya I can see u have been disgracing us here.

zionmde:
my profession is fully scientific. So come of all that Science negates religion. I once asked my professor, only one thing fails the 2nd law of thermodynamics and that is life. Why? That was where school dismissed
I am a Christian I am hardworking, I sleep less than 4hrs everyday, yes I tithe, help people that can't pay me back.
The ways of God cannot be analyzed through our human understanding. if ur mind cannot comprehend the beginning of life, why do u think u can understand God's way
Am proud to be a Christian
If not for Christianity I would have been dead by now
So if I am alive because I believe in God, I owe my life to following God.
About emotions, I hardly have or show any. People around me will tell u better

U keep on repeating meaningless words. "If not for Christianity I would have died by now"
Is this what u are really afraid of? Death? This is why u are worshiping a mythical being that u have never seen because people of the old have helped u form the word God. U are busy shouting it all over the place. What is God? Where is God? No one can phantom the beginning of the world so therefore, let's scream God? How does this two relate?
Are there no dead Christians?
Will u never die because u are a Christian?
Am I dead because I am not a Christian?

Why do u make baseless comparison and hold on this dead straw as to why u remain a Christian.

In all ur ranting I am yet to see one single value Christianity has given u.

All that u claim to have achieved as a Christian, so many atheists, Muslims, Hindus have achieved.

All I see is this special feel good feeling that u have allowed to becloud ur head, u seem not to realize that there is actually nothing special about u.

This life u are boasting with will one day be taken from u, if u like swallow Christianity into ur blood.

zionmde:
lol
psycho? Am just telling u the obvious. yes God really needs u. U are a big asset to him. if u have anything u wish to tell him, he will gladly listen to u

he needs me and he cannot prove himself to me, what kind of God are u even serving.

Sorry for Wat happened to the poor girl. Evil is predominant in this wicked world, it takes God, u and I to combat it. if u do nothing it will even get worse. If u really think that it is natural for a man to rape a 5 year old then u are wrong. I mean Wat aroused the man. its the devil

it takes u and and i who are obviously limited to combat evil... if ur God was involved given his perfection(according to u guys)we will never have a disorganized world.

I didn't doubt u the first time I only wanted to give u a plate of ur own medicine

isnt that ur problem? u fail to differentiate between ur claims to have access to almighty creator and see him in action and when an unbeliever tells u something. u tend to equate man and God... u obviously dont appreciate the God u calim to worship.

U couldn't stand in the spiritual gap to prevent it?
Have u thought about the fact that God might have spoken before that event and ur heart was too hardened to hear him? He doesn't impose his will on us, he allows us to make choices. Even the sun shining on u can be covered from getting to u if u don't want it. its all about choices

whats this. did I stand in any spiritual gap when I helped out a young girl on the street whose mother ddint have money to feed her? Did i in any spiritual gap when i some loved ones around me? how come u are suddenly accusing me of not standing in spiritual gap because of my not being close by to help the young girl? why do u suddenly assume i have never been of help to anyone? do u even see how religion is making u reason?

No am not desperate to make God relevant, if he is not relevant to me, Wat would I gain in trying to make him look relevant to u?

yet you cannot prove how relevant he has been to u, just stories of coincidences that can happen to anyone... when something u dont understand happens to u, u suddenly call it God, is this how relevant ur God can be? mcheww

zionmde:
Yeah bro, flesh and blood cannot reveal this to u
u are in the spirit

Cope out!

Don't know God is calling u. keep thinking its coincidence till things start turning the opposite directions for u

Your God sound like a psycho. I wish he can actually call me, he needs people like me to teach him his duty.

yeah if u entirely understand God's ways, then he is not God. Yes the sun he created shines upon both believers and unbelievers same as the rain

Yet under his watch an innocent five years old gets molested. Tell me more stories.

lol I said it's ur fault because u didn't pray to protect her
bia if u post her pictures here I will help u broadcast it on Fb and twitter since u don't want to use ur sense abi

Shebi u want prove...
Ur God cannot help a 5years old because I didn't pray? Tell me something more about a so called God whose sun shines on both believers and unbelievers.
Just look at how desperate u are sounding just to make ur God relevant in events he has actually been proven to be useless.

zionmde:
Didn't I tel u earlier that I went to the lecturer and he showed me my script? No he didn't change it because he knew the power of that decision was not from him

Lol... God cheated for u... Of course I don't expect the lecturer to do anything about it. After all who God has blessed cheated for, no man can set straight

I just gave u three u are sweating until I tell u ones that will make u scream. I said it before if Wat I see everyday are mistakes I wan to live out my entire life in these mistakes

U assume a lot... No wonder u are a Christian. For every story u give about how God helped u, I will give u a story of how I got 'unmerited favour' without ur God. How come u are deliberately acting like u are not reading my testimonies of unmerited favour

Thank God for the miracle.God does not perform miracles for only those who believe in him. Thank God u know its extraordinary one day God will remind u that he did it

If ur God does miracle for both believers and unbelievers doesn't that make worshiping him useless. So now u are telling me God did miracle for me... Lol... U and ur God are funny.

Can u show me some evidence that u re not lying?
Her full name, Her pictures, the pictures of her bruised private parts? Even if its true, I blame u for the rape.If only her cousin knew how to protect his loved ones in prayers.Didn't u hear that Lot was spared because of his cousin Abraham?

Ya I will soon post a pix of her private part for u to see. Ya, of course it was my fault. But I had actually helped her ur God would have pounced out to take the glory... U guys need help.

I never see my roommate going close to those plates. In short he doesn't use them most times, he always ate outside, so how does ur narrative fit in?

So?

zionmde:
U ask for funds?
lol the money u use isn't urs
u are just a channel for people to pass through and help others. Its good but I don't see people like u as real givers. Moreover Is that where u eat ur daily bread from?
U can introduce ur program to me, if its viable I will contribute (money God gave me)
Lol u re hiding ur identity because u might be using God's name to ask for funds.
All these NGO people self
the real people are those who fund ur program (which most of them do it for the sake of God) and not u

U are trying so much to discredit him just because he does not believe in ur God. Unfortunately u rushed to assume his initial story is true but since u don't believe people who don't worship ur God can be real, here u are trying so hard to make him should like a bad guy.

HardMirror:
wailing? Dancing? Lol! You think there are no muslims, atheists and co are not living better than you? You obviously dont think. I love my life, same for a lot of muslims, hindus, scientologists, shintos, Buddhists etc. We aint missing anything by not being christians.

Nah, heis a God worshipper whose God allowed a lecturer to pass despite writing rubbish in the exam, whose God miraculously provided a laptop when he needed is most, whose God caused plates to fall because he said it... Other a suffering and wailing... In fact his life is much more better than anyone who does not worship his God. Didn't u see him asking that he should give u job... This guy is the biggest boy in town.
People who don't believe in God are suffering

zionmde:
am still waiting for u to prove why these combination of events "He didn't write well, he prayed to God for a miracle, the lecturer gave him 35 in exam, the gave him a C" happened. If u know ur probability well u will know that the probability of that happening is less than 0.00001 is abnormal and if it occurs consecutively three times then it has superceeded any known physical law.

I really cannot tell you why it happened. But I am sure if we had thoroughly investigated you would have seen the mistake by the lecturer that caused it. Trust me if u had complained to the lecturer even as a true christian, he would have corrected the error. Instead u go shouting go God did it like a teenager who picked someone's phone in a car, instead seeking the owner he goes about shouting God has given him a phone.

point of correction, u can't question the decision of an entity udont believe is real
Yes I reported to my HOD and he said the C is final, or maybe u know better than him?

Awww I can question ur ideology of God since that's what ur God (if he exists) has subjected himself to... An ideology. I am actually questioning ur claims because I doubt they are facts.
Good then u should know u were just lucky. U are not the first to experience an 'unmerited favor' otherwise explain why robbers came to my compound, robbed everyone and left my opened door when I don't believe in God.
These things happen, people make mistakes and sometimes if favours us sometimes it does not.
The death of one man could be the upliftment of another... It is life and has nothing to do with any God.

Also sort this event combination too "His laptop was out of reach, he had a job threatening assignment to do, he cried to God to make his colleague bring his laptop, A guy who hasn't brought laptop to work before brought it, Immediately he saw the guy, he told him I know u came with ur laptop.

Sort this this... My door key god spoilt. I couldn't pull it out, I left key in the key hole outside, thieves robbed the compound, and didn't come into my house, I am an atheist who does not believe in God...
These things happen bro, stop making a fuss out of coincidences abeg... Yet the forget this same God failed to help a helpless 5 years old who gets molested by a 45years old dude

Bro am still waiting for permutations to show these event can occur spontaneously
For ur fictitious 5yr old girl how did u know she was raped and it was not staged? Did u see her bruised private parts or did u see them raping her. pls don't tell me u read a news and u believed it

My 5 years old cousin was molested a few years ago... Her life was and is still messed up today. She was an innocent kid who was called in by a married 45years old man together with her little friend only for the man to molest both of them... He girl is still a shadow of her self after almost 7years of the event. Read the front page of nairaland and u will see these things happen everyday. Ur God can help u with a friends laptop but cannot help a 5years old... Yet u want me to take him serious... Mcheww

Sort this combination too
Plates that has been hanging in that position for more than one year just crashed suddenly, the same day I said it would. Hmmm the kind of allegations they give coincidence nowadays na wa ooo

Sort this combination... A boy decides to play with a roller board, he falls and breaks his hand moments after I warned him.
What point does ur God want to prove by letting the plates crash

zionmde:
lol cheat? How did I cheat. I wrote my exam and went my way.Prayed to God to perform a miracle, he did Wat he chose to do. How is it cheating? My bible preaches grace (unmerited favor) and I believe in it.

Oga u passed an exam u were supposed to fail. If God did this for u then its wrong because u and I know that if a lecturer deliberately make u pass and exam u are supposed to fail he will be penalized for it.
Unfortunately what u call unmerited favour happens everyone at least I have given uu instances where I got 'unmerited favour' without praying to any God

I don't question the decision of the God I serve. He is the Almighty to me. That is why am called "A christian" I know to u its either a lie or coincidence that someone who had never brought a laptop to work suddenly brought it wen I asked God I needed one and the guy didn't even have a reason for bringing it. Guess wat ? my life is full of those coincidences (or lies whichever one u choose) and I am enjoying it.

Unfortunately I do question the decision of the God u serve because I think he is not real. And when I question it what I get is a lay mans way of answering questions he for things he does not understand, like u calling the fact that a lecturer wrongly passed u when u should have failed 'unmerited favour'
In a civilized world u should go report urself to authorities.
O really don't see anything special in someone who has never brought a laptop to work bringing it wen u need it. Such can happen to anyone we just chose to call it different names because of excitement. How ever I am bothered that (and u should too) a God who can do it for u will not help a helpless five years old from being molested even when she cries to the same God for help.

it was a word of knowledge
God revealing through ur voice Wat is about to happen. It doesn't mean it will happen because u said it, no u said it because it was destined to hapen

No I said it because I saw the likelihood of it happening. U probably said urs because u just wanted to make a joke. Both ways it didn't happen because either u or I said it, it happens because people made mistakes .

zionmde:
I have not called out any group worshipping God the wrong way.As long as I don't express my thoughts its non of ur business

U indirectly did. Read through ur responses.

Yes my script showed "F" which lecturer will give u 35 on ur script, 55 on result sheet intentionally? Was it coincidence that it was the only F I should have gotten while in school? Why didn't it ever happen to any of my course mates then.

So God helped you cheat when he knows u should have failed? Are u proud of this?
Why should it happen to any of your students? What point was ur God trying to prove when he allowed u to pass a course u should have failed.

U don't know Wat I could have lost without that laptop. And how is it ur business Wat my God Chooses to do for me? Everyday God is healing many, changing lives, answering prayers. Anyway u choose to see Wat u see

Of course its not my business that God chooses to help u get a laptop so that u can do important things but would rather watch a five years old girl gets molested by some 45 years old dude.

Lol ASSUMPTIONS that's all u guys know how to do
The guy hardly stays home.He is a very careful one for that matter. Why did it happen just as I was about to travel?That utteration, I didn't know how I said it, I didn't premeditate it.

Why did it happen? What did God tell u he wanted to prove by allowing the dishes to crash because u said it will

Ur post is full of ignorance and self fulfilled prophecy. You are being controlled by ur desire to believe that ur God is read.
Oga, u can go on worshiping the idea in ur head u call God, but I will play my part is pointing the delusion in ur post.

zionmde:
Evidence??
As I said before, u told ur story and I didn't say its a lie neither did I ask u for evidence. Am not here for that argument of God is real or not. Am just here to advice my fellow Christians, Having a deeper and closer personal relationship with God is better trying to show off,Going to church, being a prayer warrior, prayer coordinator, brother Holy ghost, Brother tongues bla bla bla.

U didn't say his story is a lie but let me ask u... Do u think his story is a fact? U talk like a pretender, forming holier than thou. U have formed ur own religious path and u think its the best. U are showing off by saying u are not showing off.

I have passed the level of Christianity show off u talked about in ur story, I have gotten to that point where I wanted to call it quit with Christianity, I saw denigrating things in the so called house of God, at the end of the day I retired to"me and my God" status.
I have enjoyed my walk with the Almighty that way. I pray to God and I see answers in terrific ways, I just smile give him thanks and move on.

Of course u will enjoy ur walk with God. Even those u think are worshiping God the wrong way are enjoying their walk with God. This is no news. Everybody actually enjoys what he is doing.

The only course in my university days I should have gotten F I went down on my knees cried to my God and the result came out, I got a C. I went to see my script, it was an F score but up till today the lecturer didn't know how on earth he gave me C. you may call it a coincidence but I live in those coincidences everyday and am enjoying it.

Listen to urself. God miraculously gave u a C when u should get an F. What kind of cheating is that? If a lecturer had done this to his female or male student friend same u will start crying foul.
By the way, how do u think God did it? Is this the first time such is happening. We were all student once and we have seen where someone passed of failed a course he didn't expect to pass or fail. What if the lecturer was in a good mood or he simply like something about the way u made effort? How is this even a miracle that proves God

I needed a laptop critically at work, I spoke to God and a colleague of mine who has never brought his laptop brought it that day and guess Wat, I was the only one that that used it all day. Coincidence? Yes or no but I am enjoying it that way

The silly things ur God does. Children, infants are dying due to circumstances beyond them, parents are praying, asking God to save their innocent sick children who are still dying in multitude... But ur God is only effective in making someone borrow u a laptop.
How is this childish story a miracle. U well at all?
Let me ask u... If u had not spoken to God about the laptop, and yet the colleague brings the lap top and give it to u to use, would u still call it a miracle? Well, welcome to my world. I got promoted in my job out of the blues without asking for it... Guess what, I didn't even pray to ur shitty God.

I got a job via video interview unknown to me my subscription couldn't carry it, I had no cash anywhere, pocket or account. 2 mins before the interview I got a surprise alert from my brother He didn't even tell me Wat the money was for, during the interview my data finished ( a situation I could never have had a solution for) I recharged from my bank, continued and I got the job. Coincidence? Yes or No but I am enjoying it that way

Lol.. Thieves came to my compound. U know the worst part? My key was bad and my door was not locked. In fact, the key was visibly outside the door because I couldn't pull it out that evening when I can from work. My windows where opened and one could see my laptop and phones when he flashes light to peep. These guys robbed my neighbour who locked his door, tied him up and took his laptop. They tied up the gate man and carefully operated in the compound without coming to my apartment.
The day u stop going to church or worshiping any nonsense God u will know that these things happen and u were only making a fool of urself by calling it God.

I told my roomie that as I am going for a vacation all the breakable plates will be broken before I leave (Something brought about the joke though) The day I was to travel all the plates came crashing down from where they were kept it was the guy that reminded me of that joke. Coincidence? Yes or No but am enjoying my life that way.

See this guy. Are u for real? Ur life must be a joke. Let me ask u... Why did u say the plates will break? Be honest with urself, isn't it because ur roommate is a careless person?
How is him acting out his usual carelessness a miracle pls? Sometime ago, a friend of mine visited naija with his son. And when boy came around with a roller board I warned one of the kids trying to play with it that he will injure himself if he attempts to ride it. Guess what, his first trial, the boy fell and broke his hand.
Coincidence? Yes... U didn't see me shouting God God.
What's really wrong with u guys?

I can go on and on and on
U can call it a lie, a coincidence or whatever but I have come to that level that nothing on earth I mean nothing can convince me that there is no God.

U call it God I call it coincidence... But that fact that these things can happen to both a God believer and a sinner like me should actually make u just sit down and think... Of course u can decide not to think, but stop making a fool of ur self by calling anything u just don't understand God.

keep ur conviction if u enjoy it. let me keep mine, I am enjoying it and I have nothing to loose

I wish it was so without u guys, disturbing our lives with morning cries, bus preaching, loud church speakers, track sharing on the streets, even knocking on our door when I am trying to relax... U opress people ur stinking believe and when u are challenged u ask people to keep thier belief. Rubbish.

iupac120:
To prove God's existence, start by answering these questions.
Do you really exist?
Where is the location of the mind in the body?
How does the mind connect the body?

God does not need to come down to earth to prove himself because the seen world manifest his existence. Luke 16:27-31

I will answer ur questions.

Do you really exist? YES
Where is the location of the mind in the body? THE BRAIN
how does the mind connect the body? THROUGH NEUROTRANSMITTER THAT TRANSPORTS INFORMATION FROM THE BRIAN TO OTHER PARTS THROUGH OUR NERVE CELLS

pls what's the relationship with the questions and answers provided and the prove of existence of your God.

Prove your God exists and stop asking me illiterate questions.

djon78:
Most of you will just be making unsubstantiated posts. Is it only prayer we do in Nigeria? Capital no.

Nigeria and Africa's problem has nothing to do with castigating prayer. But it has a lot to do with attitude. There is so much ignorance in the land. It has nothing to do with prayers or church.

You quoted Donald Trump, his core supporters are evangelical Christians and conservatives. They are traditionally people of the Bible.

Nigerias major problem is proclivity for ignorance, primitivity and backwardness.

Nigeria's educational system is completely outdated. The elites send there children to the best schools in the world, while they killed our education sector. Then when there children come back they perpetuate the cycle.
So in the land it has nothing to do with prayers.


Prayers are even helping because if not for that, the evil would have been worse off.

Coming to education, Nigeria and Africa has more young people than old. Investing in the younger generation is the only remedy. And I mean the children we are giving birth to now. If we don't strategically plan for their education and development, in the coming decades we will be in serious crisis.
In the next fifteen years Nigerias population will double according to statistical datas available. Everybody is crying now, wait then na blood people will cry.

It is not yet late. A stitch in time saves nine.

U just said it. Nigeria's problem has nothing to do with prayers. Isn't that what atheists are saying?

But u confuse yourself by saying the same prayer that Nigeria's issue is not related with is what is helping.

How is prayer helping when Nigeria is still in a mess because of ignorance and laziness and greed?

Oga pick a side... Is prayer useless to Nigeria or not?

Primesky:
You are one of them. If not tell me how you and everything else came about?.

U and I were actually created by a three headed red elephant that lives underground... And this elephant is not God... He is a three headed red elephant that's all.

U are the evidence that this elephant exists.