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Primesky:
Neither am I surprised by your reasoning. Very well the bible spoke of your like. The gospel is foolishness to men, but it is the power of God unto salvation. There is nothing you do, that can harm the truth. You are to face your own consequences. As for the message, you have heard it, how foolish it may sound In your ears, does not alter it's reality and truth.

Let me show you the kind of wisdom you have.

Two women setout to sell off their bassen of garri. The sun was high and the weather was clear. One of the women said to her neighbor, come, let us carry an umbrella, in case it rains before we get to the market else, we'll lose our investment. The other woman, mocked her and said, why are you being foolish?, the sky is clear and the weather is fair, besides the bassen is already too heavy for us to add another weight of an umbrella. So, they set out, with one having an umbrella and the other going without one. The one with an umbrella struggled with the weight and discomfort of going with an umbrella while her mate walked free while mocking her along the way. At the middle of the journey, the weather changed rapidly, the rains are ready to come down. The woman without umbrella began to panic, she desperately needed an umbrella, but she could neither go forward nor go backward. It was rather too late. Not longafter, the rains came down and messed up her bassin of garri. She suffered a total loss because of a foolish assumption. Her mate carried on, her cautious and wise decision has paid off. She went on to make profit for her and her household.

This story is reminiscent of what some people just like you are doing now. By the time you pass on to the other side, and you cannot come back again, then you find out the truth. What will you do, Mr. Worldly wisdom?. Why should you perish when Jesus has paid the price for you? Don't be wise in your own eyes. Jesus saves.

budaatum:
In honour!

Primesky:
Oh Lord please, have mercy on these people and just open their eyes. I know they don't know and that's why they reason like this.

The greatest punishment for a living man, is when God allows him/her to believe and do whatever he/she wants pending the day of reckoning.

Romans 1:21-22 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.

Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Refusing to retain or keep the knowledge of God in your understanding reasoning, is a dangerous gamble.

My dear, why do you want to destroy yourself?.

So since the last accidental creation, the mistake just refused to happen again, can't that mistake bring about flying men and women?. What poor and pitiable reasoning.

Hold on, OK?. This is the end time, you will see things and you will see this great God very soon, here or on the other side of eternity, but I wonder where you will run to OR what you will do when that hour comes.

Even well read scientists, are beginning to see the truth in the bible, and are increasingly accepting the existence of God, yet someone without a single scientific research paper, will wake up one morning, and say, there is no God. Oh Lord, please pity this your creation and open His eyes in Jesus name. Amen!.

God is real, Jesus is real and He saves.

Primesky:
Hahaha... You will surely see Him!. That's for sure. But how's it that a dying man, who needs a saviour, will be giving a condition as to how, he wants to be saved?.

Don't worry bro, the day you realise your helplessnes as a man, remember these precious words. 'Jesus loves you so much that He gave His life for your salvation'. Don't just worry OK?, for now it's stupid, but then don't forget. The only thing is, it shouldn't happen after death, alright?, at that point, nothing can be done for you, it will be all over.

I alone know what God saved me from and I will forever love and serve Him, and I know He's real. I can never force anybody to do like me, because it's a choice. There's no point arguing here, because every single human, will one day whether in this world or after death know the truth, see God, and be judged. From the way the Lord has done it, no one will have any excuse. Can you now see yourself?. You heard the news, but dismissed it as false and rubbish, and you are asking that God should come down personally to meet you or else He doesn't exist. And you think that God must dance to your tune right?.

I can't imagine a prisoner on a life sentence, given state pardon, asking the jailers, why they must be the ones to pass across the message, and why didn't the president come to free him by himself, is that prison ready for freedom?. Of cause not!. So he will remain there, but who will he blame?. That very thing you say you can't see, others are seeing it. So what will be your excuse?.

My wish and prayer for you is that you find out the truth and be saved before you leave this world.

Jesus saves.

Primesky:
I've lost nothing!. If God comes down as big as He is, the earth won't contain Him. If He comes to you as a man, which He did before, will you believe Him?., the pharesses did the same thing. They doubted Him.

But that I am telling you, does not it false. A good news is avoiding news regardless of who is telling it. I received this good news and accepted it, and found it to be true to the last dot. It would be wicked of me not to tell others, for so commanded the Lord, so that others will benefit from His love, grace and mercy.

Jesus is the only way out my dear. It's for your own good, and the choice is yours. I know that using human sense and calculation, it won't make sense at all, but this is the wisdom of God. He uses those things men call nonsense to achieve His purpose sometimes. The gospel to an ordinary mind is stupid, but it is the power of God unto salvation.

Truly, Jesus loves me and He loves you too. It's a simple but very powerful gift. Until you have it, you may not understand it. Sure, there are fakers, but it is real! God is real and He loves us.

AwesomeDuru:
Wow, you still didn't get the point?

Anas09:
All these my wife, my wife. I won't be surprised if it's one Mgbeke from one remote village with a whole lot of Alphabets/Phonic sounds missing from her speech. With an accent as thick as baked starch. Hahahahahahahahaha.

MuttleyLaff:
Your wife is known from the picture you've been, from the beginning painted and still is, of her

Put more thought into it, you'll know.

MuttleyLaff:
Imagine you inviting your wife to come read the content of your post.
I doubt from the picture of the wife you've painted, she'll rubber-stamp and give her blessings to your post being a good write-up

Anas09:
And this is coming from a guy who is too weak to tell his Christian wife he is a militant atheist in the internet. Taaa, geraut.

@bolded, you just depicted yourself. Online atheist warrior, but a chicken before a Christian girl at home.

vaxx:
Do you think God listen to this you prayer? in my own opinion, not really. IF i am to tell you this . you are not demonstrating the Christ like example of a good christian . i could remember when a certain moniker'' tozara'' opened his foul mouth on you, we all condemn him on that thread. Act what you preached MA .

vaxx:
rit is not ignorance dear, USA is indeed the most technological advanced nation in the world, why? Their advances in space technology played a significant role in making it possible. From the atomic bomb to landing Neil Armstrong on the Moon. Space exploration, it is even the birthplace of internet . you must have heard of San Francisco bay area that is nicknamed silicon valley and likewise other developments like pharmaceuticals, defense system and telecommunications. their military innovation gave birth to GPS, which now found its way into our homes in form of cars ,phones and so many format. the same USA has also produced the world’s biggest technology companies like Google, Facebook, Apple, Intel, IBM and Microsoft. i am aware of japan progress too especially in the area of robotic technology and their effective automobile industry which can be compared to that of Germany. but in general, USA spends so much on research and development more than any country making them a top notch in the world, well, it might not be well organized like German and japan but it indeed a technology hub. the only country near USA in spending on research and development is china which and yet she is still on the average. japan is quite impressive but not much advance than USA . it still lags behind in IT infrastructure . isreal too is not far fetched, the small nation has a lot of technological companies listed on the Nasdaq stock market more than any country in the world apart from USA and china . maybe china will take the spot soon. that is another story for another day


Before i go ahead answering you on Russia? what do you mean by saying she is backward?

is that you on the DP. if so, you are really endowed . i am less interested in your evangelism, so i am not commenting on that.

Anas09:
Oh God. Girl look at your picture again. look at your face and see if matched your body.

You are wrinkled at 20. Very dirty skin fullnof stretch marks at this age? by the time you get to 30, you'd be totally out.

Do you mind? I can recommend a good lotion. A deeper life christian ladyl can indeed recommend a good lotion to help you clean up.

eweeee.

***ignoremoodactivated***

Born2Freak:
The three of them have similar behaviours.

They all claim to be older women....christian women
They all are abusive but will claim to be holy
They all support each other in e-fights.

Born2Freak:
She is mentally damaged. Serious cognitive dissonance. She believed all her life that her religion is the way forward. Only for her life to become stagnant and lonely despite her old age.

Anas09:
But she is free to call Christian names abi? You are soooooo dishonest and as coward as satan.

Joshthefirst:
Interesting question. Since you're a moral relativist, I'll have to ask you what you mean by "good".

Can you point out the end of happiness and fulfilment as an atheist? You do not believe in God and I take it you do not believe in life after death. So what is the point of anything worthwhile apart from maybe self gratification through drugs and alcohol as you have said. If we all eventually come to a meaningless end from a meaningless start then should you not envy the one who "deludes" herself with true meaning and purpose in God?

Does the meaninglessNess of life not laugh you in the face? Or do you find some way to lie to yourself and deny it's voice?

Again, where is the reference for the bolded? Death laughs in the face of any achievement, achievement without faith(hope), is useless nonsense, as death and the meaningless finite darkness of the cosmos you accept as a materialist renders all achievements broken on the walls of darkness.

Again, what is the point? Apart from maybe providing finite comraderie against the purposeless meaninglessness of the universe. Or do you think the universe has meaning or purpose? If you think it does not, then how can you, who lives in it, have any?

Pain is the basis of your morality? Pain is subjective. What if I could end an entire civilization painlessly in an instant, maybe because they don't add any technological value or progress to others? Would my action be morally justified?

We don't have the same reason for living. First, I believe God created me and he has a plan and purpose for my life. I believes he rewards righteousness, so my achievements and whatever I experience have eternal significance and reward. Without God, Achievements areally futile, because death laughs not only in my face, but in the face of all humanity. Without God, I only exist by chance, and the end of all of my living is Nihility. I can only try to live out my days in self gratification till I die a meaningless death. Will this sort of thinking not plunge humanity into chaos?
Some philosophers think that if it were indeed found out that there was no God, we'd have to invent one.

Indeed. It takes a man with guts to deny reality.

pressplay411:
The premise of this discussion is Purpose. As I explained earlier, the bible explains the Purpose of humanity and because of that I know my purpose.

What is your purpose of existence?

Anas09:
This is how you are better than me?

If that's you on your DP, then i as a Christian lady, i can comfortably, i mean comfortably keep you in my housr, feed you well. place you on allowance, and still pay my tithes every month.

Anas09:
Born2freak, is that you on your DP? Wow. now i understand why you want to live free.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Born2Freak:
Out of ignorance, the mind speaks.

The most technologically advanced country in the world is Japan. The most developed country according to HDI is Norway. Try reading and stop listening to fake news from America claiming that the USA is number 1.

Russia is a backwards country and that is why it is not even allowed in the EU. Corruption, tyranny and homophobia. As for Isreal, it ranks averagely in human development. Most Jews don't follow Judaism in Isreal as they are secular.

pressplay411:
I will patiently explain this to you but I must first ask a favour. My intention is not to argue with you neither is it to attack you, so please read with the intention to "hear me out", to understand.

Purpose is the reason something or someone was designed or created. The purpose of a spoon is to scoop meals when eating. The purpose of a television is to display motion picture. The purpose of a phone is communication via calls, chats, etc.
But do you know the purpose of man (humanity)?
I know my purpose, but do you know yours?

Atheism doesn't provide this answer. In fact, this question forms the basis of atheism. No scientist knows this answer either and you can't blame them, science doesn't not answer the question of Why things exist but How they exist and function.
Science can describe with astute details how we were created (conceived) through copulation of the male and female gametes, formed from the union of the (lucky) sperm cell and ovum, developed from a zygote, grew into a foetus during a 9 month pregnancy, until finally after the 3rd trimester, delivered from the mother as a baby.
But with all the scientific, psychological and technological advancement achieved by Science, it still can never tell you why tyou were born (created). Please, orrect me if I'm wrong. Perhaps I didn't get the memo.

Now you have an old dusty book (I'm sure it's still somewhere buried in your closet), the Bible that clearly explains why you were born, what you were born to do and even your original purposed destination in the after life.

To answer your question. What is the purpose of man?
It is summed up in 2 verses in the Bible.

Gen.1.28 - Then God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth."

Matt.6.33 - But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.

Our purpose is to seek first the kingdom of God (His presence, Eden) and then establish His kingdom on earth as it is in heaven. Then very other need of ours will be met. We will Prosper (fruitful), fill the earth and have Dominion over it.
Any object that is not fulfilling the purpose it was designed starts to malfunction. Just as using a car for any other purpose other than driving, it starts to malfunction. Even just parking a car without driving it for months, which is not necessarily abuse but disuse, it starts to malfunction.

This is why when we stay away from God's presence, not knowing God, we start to malfunction. Depression, unfulfilment, all sorts of mental disorders, bipolarity, insecurity, etc sets in. Yet, instead of repenting and returning to our Eden, God's presence, we turn further away resorting to dependence on drugs and alcohol which only postpone doomsday.

I hope this makes some sense to you.
God loves you. He loved you even before you were conceived, He loves you so much he couldn't bare watching our destruction. He died for you and I. Christ saved us.
All He asks is you believe on Him, acknowledge Him and all His promises and purpose for your life will be fulfilled.

Benjamin831:
If OP and I are on a bus and suddenly an accident is about to occur am sure his/her scream of the name JESUS would be louder than mine..

Keep deceiving yourself in public but you know in your heart that you know and believe that there's God. You are probably just trying to impress by saying the contrary

pressplay411:
The problem which you're right about is religiousness. It is not only the problem of Nigeria but of the whole world. Religion was practised before Christ and is being practised still after Christ. It might shock you to know this, Christianity is not a religion.
Nigeria is the way it is because truly we're a religious country. Islam, indigenous and some false Christianity.

And yes, any body can be successful in life. You don't need to be a believer to achieve that. But you need God to save your soul.
Most of those who succeed without God, are probably the most depressed people but you'll never know until maybe they're exposed or they make the news for overdosing cos they never found happiness, purpose and meaning in life.

Joshthefirst:
Long time Frank.

To the bolded, it all depends on what one means by “making life better”. If by better, you mean belief in God gives life context and hinge and meaning, then belief in God does exactly that.

So you’re wrong or dishonest if you, as an atheist claims your life has the same dimensions as that of a theist.

Where does the context and meaning of your life come from?

Where does the context of your relationship with others come from?

And your morality? And your reason for living?

quincee88:
SOWORE, IF YOU WANT TO WIN OUR TRUST THEN STOP THIS OLD METHOD OF CAMPAIN. WE WANT TO SEE YOU BRING WHAT YOU HAVE TO THE TABLE THAT CAN MOVE NIGERIA FORWARD. STOP THESE CHEAP POLITICAL BLACKMAIL COS IT IS OUT OF FASHION

Anas09:
I know you are free from all you enumerated here, how is your life better than mine who does all the Christian things you mentioned?

Butterflyleo:
When did asking questions become having a go on a personal level with him? He should at least try and answer and then I will shut up

Since he is married to a christian woman who believes in an "imaginary God" why does he find it impossible to directly shut her down as he always tries to do to other Christians on nairaland. Is that not hypocrisy?

If he cannot firmly stamp out Christianity in his home what right has he got to attack Christians or their beliefs on nairaland?