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Yeligray:
God can not direct anyone to do this

Why not... God directed abraham to kill his son for him

emmanueloti65:
not a time for this pls

No time for Jesus?

This is the sound of a desperate man.

When things are all rosy, u resume with ur arrogancy of being a special child of the creator and how u have heard him speak and how u are special because u believe in his existence.

Really wish i have cash now, this would have been the best time to show u how useless the dead jew really is

brondby:
My friend I pray for you. Don't put your finger in God's eyes. It's a fast track to destruction.

Ur God will first have eye before I put my finger inside

So when the bible was changed from ancients stone tablet to book form why didnt u complain?

My problem with Christianity is that it sees everything as a problem meanwhile is has solved nothing since its existence.

The bible is not the word of God...the creator(s) of this word if the is one or many, cannot semd us down an ancient jewish book as the only of knowing it/them.

When ur great grand children come into this world they will still foolishly hold the veiw that God wrote an e book for them.

flakky02:
Remember what the Bible says in the book of James? All good things come from God. So where does the devil get the things he gives to his people? Some people who cannot have children, they go to witch doctors and satanists, and they get pregnant! Who gave them that baby? Is Satan a creator? NO! Satan steals from those who don't pray to the end. Jesus said, "Pray without ceasing." And then He said, "But when the Son of Man comes, will He find faith?" Will He find you still there waiting? Or will you have given up and the enemy would steal what you have prayed for?

Who prayer help. Funny successful people don't waste valuable time praying, rather they work harder and intelligently, while learning from experience

Wow, he looks like a ghost



A very very bad ghost. A sex worker saw this kind of face and went home with him alone... The risk women take because of money.

For a million dollar no reasonable person should follow such a scary face home

I am from imo too,but grew up in the northern part of Nigeria. I was born in Zaria, primary school in Zaria, Jss1 in jos, rest of secondary school in Owerri, university in uyo, service in yobe, job hunt, Abuja(life of husling for 5years), shifted to Awka and now working in Lagos.

Been quite around the country and I am a twin too.

I am easily loved in person than online... I think I am one of those atheists who is loved by all. I have never been discriminated as an atheist rather people just find me interesting.

I feel fulfilled by how people of different ages,races and personalities love me.

I started off in naira land as a writer... Was doing pretty well before I lost my fiance and... Well, I am still writing but work is taking more of me.

Just got married and life is giving me a whole new meaning, I sometimes wonder what my purpose on earth is, I strongly feel I am under using my brain... Did I mention that I love cooking?

joseph1013:
#Copied��

Do you have a few minutes to spare?
~ by Nicole Douglas

This morning there was a knock at my door. When I answered the door I found a well groomed, nicely dressed couple. The man spoke first:

*John*: "Hi! I'm John, and this is Mary."

*Mary*: "Hi! We're here to invite you to come kiss Hank's ass with us."

*Me*: "Pardon me?! What are you talking about? Who's Hank, and why would I want to kiss His ass?"

*John*: "If you kiss Hank's ass, He'll give you a million dollars; and if you don't, He'll kick the shit out of you."

*Me*: "What? Is this some sort of bizarre mob shake-down?"

*John*: "Hank is a billionaire philanthropist. Hank built this town. Hank owns this town. He can do whatever He wants, and what He wants is to give you a million dollars, but He can't until you kiss His ass."

*Me*: "That doesn't make any sense. Why..."

*Mary*: "Who are you to question Hank's gift? Don't you want a million dollars? Isn't it worth a little kiss on the ass?"

*Me*: "Well maybe, if it's legit, but..."

*John*: "Then come kiss Hank's ass with us."

*Me*: "Do you kiss Hank's ass often?"

*Mary*: "Oh yes, all the time..."

*Me*: "And has He given you a million dollars?"

*John*: "Well no. You don't actually get the money until you leave town."

*Me*: "So why don't you just leave town now?"

*Mary*: "You can't leave until Hank tells you to, or you don't get the money, and He kicks the shit out of you."

*Me*: "Do you know anyone who kissed Hank's ass, left town, and got the million dollars?"

*John*: "My mother kissed Hank's ass for years. She left town last year, and I'm sure she got the money."

*Me*: "Haven't you talked to her since then?"

*John*: "Of course not, Hank doesn't allow it."

*Me*: "So what makes you think He'll actually give you the money if you've never talked to anyone who got the money?"

*Mary*: "Well, He gives you a little bit before you leave. Maybe you'll get a raise, maybe you'll win a small lotto, maybe you'll just find a twenty-dollar bill on the street."

*Me*: "What's that got to do with Hank?"

*John*: "Hank has certain 'connections.'"

*Me*: "I'm sorry, but this sounds like some sort of bizarre con game."

*John*: "But it's a million dollars, can you really take the chance? And remember, if you don't kiss Hank's ass He'll kick the shit out of you."

*Me*: "Maybe if I could see Hank, talk to Him, get the details straight from Him..."

*Mary*: "No one sees Hank, no one talks to Hank."

*Me*: "Then how do you kiss His ass?"

*John*: "Sometimes we just blow Him a kiss, and think of His ass. Other times we kiss Karl's ass, and he passes it on."

*Me*: "Who's Karl?"

*Mary*: "A friend of ours. He's the one who taught us all about kissing Hank's ass. All we had to do was take him out to dinner a few times."

*Me*: "And you just took his word for it when he said there was a Hank, that Hank wanted you to kiss His ass, and that Hank would reward you?"

*John*: "Oh no! Karl has a letter he got from Hank years ago explaining the whole thing. Here's a copy; see for yourself."

..... *From the Desk of Karl*.....

_*1. Kiss Hank's ass and He'll give you a million dollars when you leave town.*_
_*2. Use alcohol in moderation.*_
_*3. Kick the shit out of people who aren't like you.*_
_*4. Eat right.*_
_*5. Hank dictated this list Himself.*_
_*6. The moon is made of green cheese.*_
_*7. Everything Hank says is right.*_
_*8. Wash your hands after going to the bathroom.*_
_*9. Don't use alcohol.*_
_*10. Eat your wieners on buns, no condiments.*_
_*11. Kiss Hank's ass or He'll kick the shit out of you.*_

*Me*: "This appears to be written on Karl's letterhead."

*Mary*: "Hank didn't have any paper."

*Me*: "I have a hunch that if we checked we'd find this is Karl's handwriting."

*John*: "Of course, Hank dictated it."

*Me*: "I thought you said no one gets to see Hank?"

*Mary*: "Not now, but years ago He would talk to some people."

*Me*: "I thought you said He was a philanthropist. What sort of philanthropist kicks the shit out of people just because they're different?"

*Mary*: "It's what Hank wants, and Hank's always right."

*Me*: "How do you figure that?"

*Mary*: "Item 7 says 'Everything Hank says is right.' That's good enough for me!"

*Me*: "Maybe your friend Karl just made the whole thing up."

*John*: "No way! Item 5 says 'Hank dictated this list himself.' Besides, item 2 says 'Use alcohol in moderation,' Item 4 says 'Eat right,' and item 8 says 'Wash your hands after going to the bathroom.' Everyone knows those things are right, so the rest must be true, too."

*Me*: "But 9 says 'Don't use alcohol.' which doesn't quite go with item 2, and 6 says 'The moon is made of green cheese,' which is just plain wrong."

*John*: "There's no contradiction between 9 and 2, 9 just clarifies 2. As far as 6 goes, you've never been to the moon, so you can't say for sure."

*Me*: "Scientists have pretty firmly established that the moon is made of rock..."

*Mary*: "But they don't know if the rock came from the Earth, or from outer space, so it could just as easily be green cheese."

*Me*: "I'm not really an expert, but I think the theory that the Moon was somehow 'captured' by the Earth has been discounted. Besides, not knowing where the rock came from doesn't make it cheese."

*John*: "Ha! You just admitted that scientists make mistakes, but we know Hank is always right!"

*Me*: "We do?"

*Mary*: "Of course we do, Item 7 says so."

*Me*: "You're saying Hank's always right because the list says so, the list is right because Hank dictated it, and we know that Hank dictated it because the list says so. That's circular logic, no different than saying 'Hank's right because He says He's right.'"

*John*: "Now you're getting it! It's so rewarding to see someone come around to Hank's way of thinking."

*Me*: "But...oh, never mind. What's the deal with wieners?"

*Mary*: She blushes.

*John*: "Wieners, in buns, no condiments. It's Hank's way. Anything else is wrong."

*Me*: "What if I don't have a bun?"

*John*: "No bun, no wiener. A wiener without a bun is wrong."

*Me*: "No relish? No Mustard?"

*Mary*: (She looks positively stricken.)

*John*: (He's shouting.) "There's no need for such language! Condiments of any kind are wrong!"

*Me*: "So a big pile of sauerkraut with some wieners chopped up in it would be out of the question?"

*Mary*: (Sticks her fingers in her ears.) "I am not listening to this. La la la, la la, la la la."

*John*: "That's disgusting. Only some sort of evil deviant would eat that..."

*Me*: "It's good! I eat it all the time."

*Mary*: (She faints.)

*John*: (He catches Mary.) "Well, if I'd known you were one of those I wouldn't have wasted my time. When Hank kicks the shit out of you I'll be there, counting my money and laughing. I'll kiss Hank's ass for you, you bunless cut-wienered kraut-eater."

With this, John dragged Mary to their waiting car and sped off.

~ by Nicole Douglas

That was a fun read...

Sufferings and pestilence are signs of the coming of Yaweh and his son... Yahweh and suffering are like bread and butter.... No wonder he is so close to Nigerians who are suffering.
The day Nigeria becomes better that's the day he will find another location of sufferers

budaatum:
Prove that there is no creator? Is is not sufficient that there is no evidence for one? I haven't come across one and no evidence exists to prove that there is one. Those who claim there is a creator may believe there is one, but their assertion carries as much spending power as the imaginary million pounds I plan to buy a spanking brand new red Ferrari with.

Loooooool!!!!!

OkaiCorne:
Let me state this clearly, it is not my mission to prove anyone right or wrong. We all have our different views on life. I will not force my views on anyone.

The essential thing that matters is to contribute your best to improving humanity.

I respect an atheist that can profer and implement solutions to challenges in this world, than a religious person or even anyone with my point of view on life who cannot save a local dog.

We are sufficiently empowered to make this world a utopia. Let us put aside our differences and make this a reality!

nice one

OkaiCorne:
You just confirmed yourself as a hypocrite and a liar, if you wanted to prove I don't know anything, why did you have to lie that you wanted to learn something from me in the first place?

Lol

OkaiCorne:
Now I know you are a certified hypocrite. Did I mention it anywhere that I know all the answers to life's mysteries? Where you not the one who assumed I knew it all? Or do I have responsibility over what you freely assumed.
Why did you have to lie that you wanted to learn if all you really wanted to do was criticize with your closed mindset?

Just quote where I mentioned I have the answer to all of life's mysteries. If I mentioned earlier that I'm on a journey of discovery, does it light a bulb over your head that I don't know it all or is your switch faulty again?

Who said u mentioned that u have the answers to life's mysteries?
Stop acting like a baby... Like I said "next time don't go ACTING like u have the answers to life mysteries.
It was ur attitude when u entered the thread that piqued my interest in u.
U even said God gave us brain to solve malaria so that we will not disturb him? How did u know this? Where did he tell u this?
And u think u didn't act like u have the answers to life's mysteries... Just wanted to humble u to show u that u know nothing... Now u know u actually know nothing. My work is done

OkaiCorne:
Discuss my point of view, show this thread and discuss with unbiased individuals with a blank mind, they might help you out.

Ok... A simple I don't know would have saved us a lost sha.

Next time don't go acting like u got all the answers to life's mysteries.
Ur inability to answer my question shows u have been humbled. Do have a great day

OkaiCorne:
If you believe everything just like your very existence has a starting point, we can build up from there. I do not have the FULL DETAILS but with time the TRUTH will keep unfolding like a flower...

You know the funny thing? You might even see the BIGGER PICTURE before I even realize it and share your findings with me.

All the best bro...I wish all of us success in this life.

I don't know how the universe came into existence...I don't know if it started or has always been existing...stop running round and round and Makin me repeat myself


U said the universe has one UNCAUSED Creator...how did u know the Creator of the universe is one individual that is uncreated

Martinez19:
Guy 1(frank317) did not ask for videos, he simply asked how you know that the galaxy has a creator?

Guy 2(Martinez19), which is me, simply wants you to answer the three questions given to you.

There is actually no need wasting time asking him a question he cant answer but will not accept he can't.
Imagine comparing how I know my father who is a human like me to how he got to know that the galaxy has ONE CREATOR that is UNCAUSED.

Perhaps my father is also an invisible UNCAUSED Creator

OkaiCorne:
If you can tell me how you knew your Father is your Father, you would have a clue to this question you just asked which I have answered over and over again on this thread.

Unless you are asking me to travel back in time and record the events and play a tape for you. But I don't expect atheists or agnostics to be that "intelligent".

I am happy with the way things are unfolding here because with time it appears your true motive is criticize me with a fixed mindset.
Unfortunately, life is not a one size fits all approach...

I assume I have been discussing with a matured adult and not a teenager...This discussion seems to be a waste of time I can never recover, that is my only regret.

Have a good day bro... Just say u don't have the answer to my question... Accepting ' you don't know' will not cost u a thing. U actually know no truth...

Am done with u

OkaiCorne:
If all the previous explanations and examples I've given you doesn't light a bulb in your head...I am very sorry...move on with your life.

I thought atheists and free thinkers are smarter than this...but it seems you're an exception or something .

All the best though, hold on to your views... Life goes on...

Answer me...how did u know the galaxy has a Creator? How did u know this Creator is uncreated? How did u know this uncreated Creator is just one individual... Please if u have answered this before show me.

OkaiCorne:
Guy why is your view of everything so narrow? If we argue from now till tomorrow...it doesn't stop the earth from rotating around the sun...Just like your points will not change what the TRUTH is...

If you guys are atheists...then I'm really sorry for you guys. I ain't forcing my views on you as I'm not a religious fanatic. I respect your views but please don't insult or attack me with your mindset.

Not everyone must see the world the way it is through your eyes.

Remember this...let your mind be a growing sponge (open) to absorb wisdom and not a rock (closed)

Honestly, I am yet to understand what Ur views are

Martinez19:
The guy is a christian, he is an artful dodger. He will never answer your questions.

Lol... I think he is Religious with Christian background but is heading towards agnosticism... He is figthing it though


I want to believe he will answer

OkaiCorne:
Starting point...the first mistake which is the source of all religion is giving a name to the uncreated a.k.a eternal one. Don't fit the uncreated one into a box by giving him a name

I got to know the uncreated one from the work of his hands...the planet, solar system, galaxies, universe and multiverse...with the way everything is systematically arranged and programmed...you cannot doubt there's a supreme intelligence behind this...

If your sperm cell at it's level of consciousness, out of ignorance concludes it does not have a source, does it mean you do not exist?

i dont get you... the planet, solar system, galaxies etc that are systematically arranged gave the clue that the maker of all these things is one and uncreated?

u seem to be deliberately dodging my question... how did u know the creator is uncreated and how did u know he/it/them is one? its a simple question

https://www.nairaland.com/4124125/woman-gives-birth-miracle-twins

pls see the case above... @op was the woman foolish for rejected the doctors statement that she has fibroid?

OkaiCorne:
This is like asking me how I know your father is your father?

my father i can see and relate with... this does not mean he must be my father because I said so, but at least there could be some series of measurements and tests and clear cut interaction between us.. he is human like me so I know what i am dealing with.

The uncreated one is the source (starting point) of all these...

Who is the uncreated one... how did u get to know the uncreated is one?

OkaiCorne:
So the universe just came like that with out a source or starting point? Did you just exist out of thin air?

I have never tried to explain how the universe started so asking me if the universe came out of the thin air is not necessary. I know I said its better we honestly accept we dont know how the universe started.


Now, How did u know the uncreated one created of the universe is one and uncreated?

OkaiCorne:
Quote me where I said I know the COMPLETE TRUTH, we are all on a journey to discovering that...and that journey may not end in this life time.

Just quote where I said I know the COMPLETE TRUTH. I am certain I have made progress in this journey graduating from Religious views to more of common sense now.

But please tell me where I said I know this TRUTH completely...If I sounded like I know it all, I apologize sincerely...

Based on the bolded, quote where I said I know how the universe started oga... I'm waiting...

Thank you.

I have never used the word complete... I am only interested in the TRUTH u know... isnt that the word we have been using?

I didnt say u said anything about the how the universe started... but saying the world was created by the uncreated one sounds more like u know something about the beginning of the universe. What or who is the uncreated one? how did u know he started the universe... why not just say u dont know hw the universe started.

OkaiCorne:
https://www.nairaland.com/4123167/new-research-opens-door-functional

Good news, hopefully HIV can be treated like Malaria.

This is the progress I want to see humanity make, instead of making noises over answered prayers...

Haven't grasped the concept of this functional cure though...

Yea.. humans will keep on trying to make better their world... the believe in an uncreated one is useless since it have not helped us in solving our problems.

OkaiCorne:
Are you willing to learn, or do you want to attack me with your fixed mindset? Let's reopen this discussion later today. I hope you might have seen the points I'm making by then ...if not even I can't be of help to you.

do your best not to see my responses as unreasonable attacks. I am actually probing your words just for me or others reading to makes sense of it.

The mind should be a growing foam sponge willing to acquire more wisdom (an open mindset) and not a rock (fixed mindset)

Cheers

of course...

but here is my take...

You entered the thread like you know the truth and said things about God not wanting us to disturb him when he has already given us brain. But you failed to say exactly what this truth is and cant explain why we should even try acknowledging this creator in the first place when he has given us brain to figure things out ourselves.

For me I think the best truth we can tell ourselves is just to acknowledge our ignorance. We don't know how the world began, neither do we know who or what started the universe. Calling what u don't know the uncreated one and boasting to have found the truth is self deception.

Whats wrong in accepting you don't know how the universe started and go ahead to make sense of the reality u can see instead of forming expert with your assumption on things u don't and will never know.

Millions have come to this world and died too without knowing how the world started or who created it.... people have assumed that it is a God and they are comfortable with that lie, but is this the truth? how are they sure it is one God and not a group of unidentified beings?

The TRUTH is we DONT KNOW more than we can see or perceive. The truth is what we can all see and agree on. The truth is accepting we are ignorant of how he universe started and what is beyond.

the lady in the op has been sold a lie by a man called pastor who has bought another lie from a so called holy book hence she thought she has the truth, and thats why she maintained the God she believed in will save her... thats her own personal truth but is a lie because it was born out of personal opinion. If she had accepted she knew nothing and allowed the doctors to do their work, she would have learned more and saved her baby.

If u have found who the creator is or who they are... tell us in simple word.

OkaiCorne:
The TRUTH has a pattern, and it is interwoven, that's my point. Read my post carefully and see it in the context of what we are discussing.

what is the TRUTH? we have to first of all establish what this truth u stand on is, before we start talk about weather is has pattern or if its interwoven. and what do u mean by the truth having a pattern and being interwoven? I cant honestly seem to make sense of this.

Honestly, I have nothing to lose if you don't see things from my perspective. The major thing is, let us make this world a better place to live. We all have what it takes...

of course...

I am more concerned in people selling lies, or their personal opinion as the truth.

the woman in the op believed a lie and look at how it cost her her baby's life and almost hers too.

OkaiCorne:
You'll get my explanation with time. When I discovered this, it sounded silly at first.

But guess what, the most powerful and important things in this realm of existence have a very simple foundation.

I am certain you'll grasp this concept with time...it's a gradual process.

I'll be back during my break or evening time. Work calls for my attention now.

Thanks for your open mindedness...you're far better than religious people with a closed mindset.

Nice chatting with u... On my way to work... When I am free I will dig more into this truth that u find and let u know why find some of ur accessions wrong

OkaiCorne:
Let me give you a simple trick...do you know that every academic textbook or knowledge has the BIGGER PICTURE in its Chapter 1? Every subsequent chapters elaborates on different angles of Chapter 1. Getting lost in these subsequent chapters makes the knowledge you're trying to acquire look burdensome, but when you see each subsequent Chapter in the light of Chapter 1, it makes more sense. That Chapter 1 (BIGGER PICTURE) in the context of our discussion is the TRUTH.

My desire is for humanity to seek the TRUTH and make this world a better place to live.

Cheers

U realized u actually said nothing right?
H
What's ur point?

OkaiCorne:
I will be completely honest with you, words fails me to describe accurately how I'll explain this TRUTH for you to understand. But with time I know I will get it. Till then, I am also learning just like you...I DO NOT KNOW IT ALL

Probably u don't stand on any truth?

OkaiCorne:
Do you agree everything has a starting point?

I really don't know if everything has a starting point. And when u say everything do u also include the uncreated one?

What if the universe itself has no starting point.

I really don't know... But hey, I am interacting with someone who claims to have found the truth... Teach me that truth