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There are things that should be clarified..
1. No matter how big a complex or a building is, if a doctor is not working there, that place can't ansa HOSPITAL.

2. Laboratory medicine, belongs to the doctor. Doctors who specialized in Lab Medicine are called PATHOLOGISTS. You don't expect a lab scientists to head a pathologist is his own lab. if u do then it's like allowing a stranger who doesn't know the tradition of ur people to lead u... That's an anomaly....

3.The doctor can not head the pharmacy store cos there are people who should head it & they are called PHARMACISTS.
4. In the same vain, an OPTOMETRIST can't head an opthalmologist, if it happens, it is anomalous.

5. A radiologist can't be headed by a radiographer.

All those services are provided in the hospital & the hospital is the home of a doctor. He has got no where to go than stay at home.

I see it strange when people clamor to come to a doctor's home to head him. except he so permit but I do not think he will allow that happen now, maybe later.

These things appear to be birthright by virtue of the training of a doctor.

All these people came & met this hierarchical pattern but want to turn things around because they feel they are populated & doctors are few.... If u know u do not want a doctor to head u in the lab , pls do not study any related course in the university.



PLS IF U THINK U CAN RUN A HOSPITAL WITHOUT A DOCTOR'S CERTIFICATE pls indicate let's reason

bbxxxxxx:
, you are right because its not the biz of the witches (doctors) how I negotiate with my employer. I was not employed by the doctors. What is their problem. Useless doctors that can't even do cs without killing either the baby, the mum or both. The only thing that is exclusively at their care(surgery) they can't do, yet they shout doctors as it's a big deal, am not part of the striking doctors but my course mates are, am currently studying genetic engineering in Canada because medicine is not challenging for me. I did a bch course with those medical students in school which the failed massively that forced their faculty to organize the course themselves for future students. Now tell me what's challenging about medicine. Nonsense

Biochemistry can't be a challenge to any medical student. Quote me anywhere

WesleyPepper:
See this ignoramus..
The doc you quoted wasn't talking about percussing a patient. When a superior asks questions to test one's knowledge; that's an act of percussion.

Now, run back to whatever hole you crawled out from

They always comment on what they know nothing about. He did not even read to comprehend the post

Ochek:
Facebook Post by a JOHESu leader ISTH...

There was an accident of a group transiting to Auchi from Benin. They were rushed to our A/E at Irrua.
There were no deaths, but minor bruises and cuts. But some have mandibular distortions and other degrees of fractures that may need some days in hospital and scans to be done. But they are all stable.
We swung into action trying to call some of our nurses, and store officers and union members to go help out, we didn't really ask who they were initially, and we didn't want to argue while accident victims suffer. They are all there now helping with the treatment of the injured as it was very clear that the Doctors were helpless at a point. I have called the HOD of general stores to help with treatment items. The HOD of Pharmacy has been on ground helping with pharmaceuticals, the Nurses have arrived as their chairperson mandated and we have the situation under great control.
After putting the anxiety to rest, we decided to really find out who the victims were and found out they are cleaners in UBTH not JOHESU members as being erroneously circulated in social media against the striking unions. A call to SSA chair, UBTH confirmed they are cleaners in UBTH & all outsourced staff and belong to no union in UBTH.
Well, we are happy to relax our strike a bit for the injured and we are happy to prove that treatments are difficult without JOHESU members. We are also happy to prove that we have a largely humanitarian mindset.
That's the summary of what happened.
...........JOHESU ISTH

Do we also have cleaner's Union ??
were the cleaners going to meet with their union members in another teaching hospital??
You copied & posted this without asking yourself those questions. This goes to say that JOHESU members are liars. they will destroy their union by themselves. imagine the lie

WesleyPepper:
Lol..This is ridiculous !! Acetylcysteine is cysteine analogue with a longer half life.Your methionine is just another AA that can be used for the management of paracetamol toxicity.

What is the commonest route of administration of the N-acetylcysteine in clinical settings?

And after how many seconds, minutes or hours would your antidote be useless If you fail to act ?

What zone of hepatic lobule is the commonest site of liver damage due to acetaminophen toxicity ? And why is it the commonest site ?

What type of necrosis does it cause ?

Gimme the prognostic signs of the toxicity ?

And can you tell me about the symptoms, signs and management of fulminant hepatic failure ?

The above questions are definitely beyond the scope of your curriculum.
My questions covered pharmacology, pathology and GI medicine ..

Keep calm and dispense my prescriptions quietly

You want to kill the guy? someone who have no idea what histology is not to talk of Morbid Anatomy?
That's absolutely beyond his scope.

emekatheo:
Answer the question I asked you Mr man. Because you saw the word chemistry, your empty brain told you it is a pharmaceutical chemistry question, or are you and your fellow 'I know all' doctors still asking and waiting on Google?
No Nigerian will want to answer a doctor, even those with Pharm D are are qualified to take the title Drs will still tell you they are Pharmacists.
They are proudly Pharmacist.
Don't compare your one semester pharmacology with 4 years pharmacology (B. Pharm) or 5years pharmacology (Pharm. D) of a pharmacist.

I will teach you pharmacology my guy. teach u better than you've ever bin taught before.

sogodihno:
who 'dr' help? my point is, if it's Nigeria, doctors wud want to hang themselves, just because of this. Nigeria doctors does not want to come to term with the reality, health is evolving, and their is nothing anybody can do about it.

Before a medical doctor is called a doctor, he paid a lot of sacrifices. the same title u want to bear without doing further studies just as those Ugandans pharmacist. ask those in the academics wat they went through to obtain PhD

sogodihno:
just saw this now, but am sure doctors here, we want to die if they see this, why are naija doctors so primitive in their thinking now. This is Uganda o. shame on this generation of Nigeria doctors. it's really pathetic.

Finally, it is the wish of every pharmacists to answer doctor both home & abroad. a tittle some people are tired of bearing

Au79:
no mind him..am expecting too see one brain tasking clinically oriented pharmacology question .. he is here asking for chemistry of Elimination acetaminophen...he even added dosage

funny enough, the guy could not even differentiate between pharmaceutical chemistry & pharmacology.

I asked for pharmacology but got a question on pharmaceutical chemistry. How funny these people are.

Au79:
bsc parasitology?..... are you kidding me?

Allow that guy to remain ignotant

emekatheo:
Olodo! U think drugs are all about pharmacology which you don't even know. Oya over sabi doctor, tell me the chemistry in the elimination processes of the paracetamol you prescribe everyday : 1g tds x 3\7.
Answer fast!

People are very funny. for ur mind that's pharmacology question? now I understand how much u know pharmacology

Asking question on pharmaceutical chemistry when pharmacology was intended shows u do not know pharmacology is a branch of basic medical sciences.

bizme:
Please correct that, it is not the same pharmacology. Pharmacology is not a field that anyone can study in one year. Medical students are made to take a small bite of different fields, and that small bite doesn't qualify them as authority in such fields. You were able to complete medical pharmacology in one year because you were taught a highly abbreviated pharmacology. Pharmacy students take each aspect of pharmacology one by one in infinitely greater detail, a detail that would make a medical student give up any day. This detail can only be understood by pharmacy students specifically because their training comprehensively equips them with all foundational subjects from which pharmacology derives; in particular medicinal chemistry, mathematics, biochemistry, pharmacognosy and even pharmaceutics. This is the same way that medical students are as it were brushed through biochemistry courses... They (medical students) take small bites, which don't qualify you or them to start parading themselves as experts in this and other fields. The phrase Jack of all trades readily comes to mind... And this is the very reason that pharmacists are placed in hospitals, to serve as the final check for doctors' prescriptions: because both your superiors and those that design the medical curricula know that you have sufficient knowledge of pharmacology and that the real experts on drugs and pharmacology (pharmacists) must vet and correct prescriptions before handing them to patients.
In other words, cramming to pass negative-marking questions says nothing about intelligence. Let's not exult a defective educational system. Any secondary school drop-out with decent reading skills could be taught to cram the same pharmacology that you crammed and pour it down without necessarily understanding the foundational concepts. But approach any pharmacist, he/she would take you through a journey in pharmacology that you're not going to come across in medical pharmacology.

No need for the argument. simply challenge him in pharmacology & see how u will be humbled.
That's when u will know that every medical doctor knows much pharmacology than u do

emekatheo:
You have not heard of Pharmacist prescribers, that Pharmacists also prescribe drugs or your lecturers in school refuse to teach you that one and don't want you to know it? You always tremble when you hear a pharmacist is around, why?

me I no dey tremble. shey na drug? shey na pharmacology? challenge me

DABMarkNig2019:
and I challenge you to leave your consulting rooms open when you're proceeding on strike. Then we'll know who is truly who in our hospitals.

You make a lot of noise boy. ..
I wonder if u truly know what diagnosis is.
That said, the last thing a doctor will do is to lock the consulting room when he's on strike. If NMA go on strike again, pls meet with the security personnels, they will give u the keys to all the consulting rooms. u may choose whichever room u wil bel most comfortable in to consult. No one will stop u.

emekatheo:
Is it the physician that don't know that panadol and paracetamol are the same drug, that will tell us the side effects of paracetamol? Does the physician even know how paracetamol works and how it is metabolized and eliminated not to talk of its side effects? What most doctors know is that paracetamol is used to treat headache and fever which even someone in primary school knows.
No wonder someone called doctors malaria and typhoid doctors which some doctors no even sabi treat.

That is your own opinion but I challenge you to dare any doctor here in pharmacology. That's when your nerves will be calmed(repolarized)

Freddonance:
You keep blabbing only surgeon are the real doctors.
Have u ever asked ur self if that is true why aren't everyone going into surgery?
Even surgeons respect Physicians especially when it has to do with intelligence(real medicine) but u are here spewing hatred. Physician are so good that they can tell you over 200 side effects of paracetamol, Yes, they are that good(only doctors know this) & to think u can practice medicine by virtue of being in the ward with a doctor is the higher level of show of shame & ignorance.
Again, every MBBS holder can delve into surgery any day, any time. Yea, that's the power of MBBS. whoever wishes to perform any surgical procedure can do it so long as it is within his limit. The issue of litigation comes into play only when complications of the said procedure ensue.

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Freddonance:
The last time I checked, your BSc nursing is a requirement for admission into 200level medicine in Nigerian universities & outside the shore of Nigeria, RN still is a requirements for MBBS program.

Pls do not show hatred for others. Do what u love wholeheartedly & avoid all these unnecessary argument. I want to believe u are a responsible lady who has self respect. pls do maintain ur integrity as a nurse cos no amount hate speeches will bring down any profession, not even medicine.

pls find that out if u are not aware

Amarabae:
No they are not nurses but QUACKS
He is into illegality and there is nothing to hate here.
We know the real nurses.
Let him continue training them, something that a white doctor can't try due to his integrity.

BTW many chemist are DOCTORS in rural areas, they are making their money.
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And to the first paragraph,
I can't be involved in online question and answer crap, it's childish.
Go and read about who a graduate nurse really is.
Get ur eyes off auxiliaries.
Many graduate nurses are in private practice, they don't need a doctor there,
They treat their patients and give them quality healthcare.
No graduate nurse is clueless about Non-surgical health issues.
I repeat None!
Surgeons are the real doctors.
Simple
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If you are bold enough about your brother, tell me his hospital location, let me contact our Nurses and midwives association and then make an enquiry to DSS by Monday

The last time I checked, your BSc nursing is a requirement for admission into 200level medicine in Nigerian universities & outside the shore of Nigeria, RN still is a requirements for MBBS program.

Pls do not show hatred for others. Do what u love wholeheartedly & avoid all these unnecessary argument. I want to believe u are a responsible lady who has self respect. pls do maintain ur integrity as a nurse cos no amount hate speeches will bring down any profession, not even medicine.

Amarabae:
No they are not nurses but QUACKS
He is into illegality and there is nothing to hate here.
We know the real nurses.
Let him continue training them, something that a white doctor can't try due to his integrity.

BTW many chemist are DOCTORS in rural areas, they are making their money.
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And to the first paragraph,
I can't be involved in online question and answer crap, it's childish.
Go and read about who a graduate nurse really is.
Get ur eyes off auxiliaries.
Many graduate nurses are in private practice, they don't need a doctor there,
They treat their patients and give them quality healthcare.
No graduate nurse is clueless about Non-surgical health issues.
I repeat None!
Surgeons are the real doctors.
Simple
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If you are bold enough about your brother, tell me his hospital location, let me contact our Nurses and midwives association and then make an enquiry to DSS by Monday

You keep blabbing only surgeon are the real doctors.
Have u ever asked ur self if that is true why aren't everyone going into surgery?
Even surgeons respect Physicians especially when it has to do with intelligence(real medicine) but u are here spewing hatred. Physician are so good that they can tell you over 200 side effects of paracetamol, Yes, they are that good(only doctors know this) & to think u can practice medicine by virtue of being in the ward with a doctor is the higher level of show of shame & ignorance.
Again, every MBBS holder can delve into surgery any day, any time. Yea, that's the power of MBBS. whoever wishes to perform any surgical procedure can do it so long as it is within his limit. The issue of litigation comes into play only when complications of the said procedure ensue.

hmmm

TempoJames:
What is wrong with this boy? You are counteracting your arguement. MD oncology means a medical doctor that is a specialist in oncology medicine. Oncology is a branch of medicine. The specialist is an Oncologist. The man in your picture is a medical doctor! Anyone that is into medical line can interprete that profile. I wonder if you have problem with English Language.

You are doing a great job, educating the general public. keep it up

Jman06:
Honestly, I hope they stop the unnecessary fights. But if they fail to stop, then they should be ready to start receiving a dose of their own medicine from other professionals in the healthcare team.

I think unlike those of us in Pharmacy who are taught to respect other healthcare professionals, Nigerian medical doctors obviously do not have such training. Rather they are trained to be disrespectful to others. Over the years, pharmacists have been keeping quiet and taking all their rubbish. That our quietude has been misconstrued for cowardice by the physicians, hence we have got to fight now!

All we are saying is that all healthcare professionals should be allowed to grow and not suppressed by the medical doctors. That is why JOHESU is on strike.

Some people always spew nonsense thinking they are making sense.. Be ready, keep fighting them. funny enough, those doctors will not come to ur pharmacy to implore you to treat them but u will always meet them to treat u, by that time u will know who is & should be respected. ganging up against a particular group isn't an assurance of victory but a hope of the timid.

Instead of thinking of how to create peaceful environment conducive enough for everyone in the hospital u are here wallowing in self pity.

Doctors are not the problem of the health sector. JOHESU isn't either. the problem of the health sector is greed borned of out of hatred for doctors.

optm:
altho this is nt a classroom, there is no disease lyk 'non proliferative retinopathy ' rather it is 'non proliferative diabetic retinopathy'

That was an oversight

Jman06:
Kid, have you ever been to pharmacy school Do you know that pharmacy students study the pathology of diseases from 400 level till graduation The Pharm.D graduates then spend extra year studying pathology of diseases.
Stop exposing your ignorance on public forum nau! Have you no shame

oh, interesting. tell me the pathology of non proliferative diabetic retinopathy (NPRP)

chuksbogus:
Are u listening to the so called educated fellow!! Dr doing other professions job is quackery!! Do u think Nurse or pharmacist even lab scientists not treat patients? in most private hospitals who do Dr call for surgery if not theater nurses ? so you think others can do Drs job?

Ignorance is indeed metastatic wich explain y u reason dis way.

chuksbogus:
Are u listening to the so called educated fellow!! Dr doing other professions job is quackery!! Do u think Nurse or pharmacist even lab scientists not treat patients? in most private hospitals who do Dr call for surgery if not theater nurses ? so you think others can do Drs job?

Ignorance is metastatic, it has spread to affect u

aribisala0:
Actually there are several arrhythmia diagnoses

e.g SVT, VT. AF Paroxysmal Tachycardia etc.

THEY ARE diagnoses, no argument
Your argument is akin to saying epilepsy is not a diagnosis

However such grandstanding is not relevant to the discussion here. Most doctors are not cardiologists and have nothing to do with arrhythmias. The only relevance to the discussion would be how much does an arrhythmia patient bring into the business and how should that be shared.

Let us not get into technical issues of medicine it is quite childish

I think I understand you better now

frankpro27:
Hw do u diagnose arrhythmia or dysrythmia?

The last time I checked, arrhythmia is not a disease. A doctor can not make a diagnosis of arrhythmia. Doctors make diagnosis of disease not symptoms or sign.... arrhythmia is a sign not a diagnosis
pls check it up

frankpro27:
Hw do u diagnose arrhythmia or dysrythmia?

The last time I check, arrhythmia is not a disease. A doctor can not make a diagnosis of arrhythmia. Doctors make diagnosis of disease not symptoms or sign.... arrhythmia is a sign not a diagnosis
pls check it up

hydeka:
The things I see eh...
We cover up for them but they don't realise it.
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Is it the inappropriate dosage or non-existent strengths that they prescribe or the mixing up of brand and generic names? Or prescribing two agents in the same pharmacological class without any rationale?

Abeg no open their nyash for public

Funny enough, those doctors know more of the indications of drugs than u do... A doctor prescribes a drug for it side effect for the therapeutic benefit of the patient u claim it's a wrong prescription. Who then do we say know much about drug the doctor that knows the clinical aspect of the patient & what he/she should benefit from or the pharmacist that do not know the pathological basis of the prescription hence rushed into saying, it's a wrong prescription

frankpro27:
Nd a pharmacist got his on a platter of gold. Shut ur mouth already. Thr is no much difference bw a pharm.D holder Nd a medical doctor. A pharmacist can do all except surgery. Bt also, a doctor can't compound or produce drugs. What do doctors knw about drugs pls.

My dear, a pharmacist knows less than 1/1000 of what a doctor knows.
when doctors are discussing medicine a pharmacist will comprehend far less than one tenth(1/10) of what is discussed that is if he will understand it at all. The gap of knowledge between a doctor & a pharmacist is immeasurable.

Identical twin results when a fertilized ovum divides into two....
sometimes the division takes between 3-10 days.
when the division takes as much as 14days or more, conjoin twin results.

Those babies will survive. One will need liver replacement therapy or a transfer of one lobe of the liver into either of them.... This type of conjoin twin as seen above is called Xiphopagus