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Sleekfingers:
Made a valid point.....

But to be sincere, I regret watching that video.....that her ToTo is too dirty.......I could eat that day

Hediot, you'll gladly suck her asshole if given the chance

Maybe that's what he was trying to signal below

BRATISLAVA:
There is no natural instinct— rather there is lack of inhibition and ethics. Men cannot claim to be mad naturally. Women would be naturally drawn to well-built 14 to 16 year old boys with tender virility if such absurdity was "natural".

Well, I decided to ask Google and was not surprised at all: the peak of attraction for women is 18, while for men it is 50. And I suspect the only reason it is not younger for women is because 18 is almost universally the age of consent. Of course there are exceptions, but generally speaking women are attracted to maturity and gravitas (and money in poorer countries), while most men are attracted to looks (and for many, also a certain something about youth that has nothing to do with looks!)

My name sake

Toks2008:
Noted.. Let's see how it plays out. Have a fabulous weekend.

You too my bros. Stay cool

Toks2008:
If you noticed, I meticulously ensured that I read and responded to you with documented info. And I actually did thst cos I see you are smart intelligent and able to have logical discussion and not low life ranting like many are doing on this thread.

However there is a thin line between discussion and argument.

I have reiterated that there is a lacuna meaning an area of argument or unresolved issue about the age of concent in Nigeria.

Just as you posted, there aew some documents in strong support that it is 11 and also some documents say it is 18 meaning at this time of you say 18 you are right and if another say 11 then the person is also right simply because of the discrepancies as presented.

Now if you look at the same document you posted did you not read clearly where it states..."Sime might argue based premise of the law"? Now which law? Ofcouse the law that states that age of concent in Nigeria is 11.

Is that not the lacuna I talked about?

So we can go on and on talking about this which was why I said we should just rest it.

You have done well and I respect your IQ.

You have also done well, and I equally respect your IQ. Though, to be honest, neither of us is that smart or that high IQ, just that we are on Nairaland which is not exactly a bastion of intellectuals .
As for the AoC, I posted you the law as written, verbatim. You can see for yourself there is no lacuna. I think the pretended lacuna is to give some leeway due to the unreasonably draconian penalty - mandatory life imprisonment for having consensual sex with a 17 year old!

BRATISLAVA:
You're still at it?

In defense of sex with underaged girls, this guy is on every such thread with his law of 11 years.

He clearly feels older men can have sex with little girls because they have vaginas, and the argument you are having has been had every year with him on almost every thread that there is a raped female child, or that has a man clearly committing a contemptuous sexual act.

Lawless and without ethics, all to seem logical and "different" while playing devil's advocate.

You mean Toks2008. Oh, I don't think he is more potential pedophile than most men. I think it's more a case of refusing to budge even after being shown that your stand is flawed. Truth be told, left to most men's natural instinct, the age of consent would be 14 to 16.

Toks2008:
You are obviously reading my post to respond but not to understand. This is the lacuna I wrote about. A lacuna is series of argument as a result of an ommision or lack of clarity in a law or constitution.

Till date it is still unresolved and while some are arguing that the age of consent is 11, some are saying it is 18.

Please let's try to understand each other.

I rest my case on this matter... Let us see how it plays out.

My brother you are the one making easily disproved statements. First you said "Justice system can't be so draconian...", then you said there was no eyewitness.

As for age of consent, my brother the law is VERY CLEAR that AoC is 18. The courts are just pretending about lacuna. The law was passed in 2015. You can't find any prominent person or NGO since 2015 who says AoC is 11. There'd be outrage.
There is nothing there for a lawyer to interprete, unless they are just being mischievous.
I DARE ANY LAWYER TO INTERPRET THE BELOW TO MEAN AoC IS 11.
(Note that the constitution defines "child" as any one below 18)

malcom1X:
Drugs that contain ivermectin lolz

https://www.citizensjournal.us/merck-touts-expensive-new-covid-drug-while-dismissing-cheap-ivermectin/

You conspiracy loons can sound so dumb sometimes.
If ivermectin were so effective, why did covid not halt with it's use?? It is cheap, widely available and unpatented, yet covid cases kept rising till the vaccines!
Same with: remdesivir, hydroxychloroquine, lopinavir/ritonavir, interferon, convalescent plasma, monoclonal antibody therapy, etc - all of which have been touted as cure for covid but all of which could not be proved in controlled studies. Each of them still have their followers till date!
How can Merk tell UK or Israel not to use Ivermectin if they find that it works?? Also we forget these pharmaceutical companies are publicly traded and the executives paid a salary - the companies are owned by the public (shareholders) who are the ones who pocket any profits they make

malcom1X:
I believe we've chatted before. I sent you a video of the person saying something and you didn't watch it but you sent me a Reuters fact check.

What part of (any virus) do you not understand.

Here is the video again, it's not on YouTube for a reason

https://www.bitchute.com/video/rmO5NcwVsipY

You obviously haven't been following. That argument has been put to rest and you kooks lost as usual.
The man was saying this in 1993; same man died in 2019! Here's part if what I wrote:

This is one of your dumbest posts yet. He said that in 1993, what did he say around 2019 when he died?? - (By which time the test had then been in use for years). All those people testing positive for HIV over those years, how many were false??

Toks2008:
If you meticulously go tru my post you will see where I stated clearly that some states have a defence against error of age. Texas is just a state in U.S and what you quoted is about Texas but we are not in Texas, this is Naija so we need to apply the laws here.

Further more, you are still mistaken AGE OF CONSENT according to the Federal constitution which reigns supreme over state laws.

Until 2015 the age of consent in Nigeria was 18. Now it stands at 11 but as I wrote, there is a clause in the constitution that has been in contention and till this day, the lacuna still exists.

Don't get me wrong, I'm totally against the act but I'm just acting the Devils advocate now cos no matter how bad it is, his lawyers can't just let them sentence him without putting up a defence and if I'm his lawyer I will tell him to plead guilty as regards what happened in the video and not before that then we will argue the rest.

https://www.ageofconsent.net/world/nigeria

I always think outside the box.

And if you paid attention you'd have seen I made it clear I was referring to the bolded, where you said:
Do you think the justice system is that draconian so much that they will just send someone to jail when it is proved that the victim lied about her age either verbal or perhaps forgery of age certificate?
I showed you where the justice system is exactly that draconian.

As for age of consent, you are mistaken. See below.
I will find and post the letter of the law so you can read it for yourself.

Toks2008:
There is no eye witness account of the molestation when she was 7 so let's focus on the video evidence presented when she is 14.

You can't be sounding this obtuse. SHE IS THE WITNESS! I'd think you know that. If they find her credible he'd be convicted.

Toks2008:
Haaaaaa| Abeg post the link to this info you just gave. See the justice system don't work on sentiments or emotions but Evidence and a compelling one at that so biko forget the talks of 7years and lets dwell on the video evidence.

You are mistaken. Justice system also works on eye witness testimony - and people are routinely convicted based solely on that

franklytrue:
O wise one, I thought May and August 2021 that you turned a blind eye to (and now October 2021), was still this year for you asked me to compare this year and last or isn't May and August 2021 still in the year 2021?

Covid is still playing you and all the evil vaccine advocates left and right despite the mass vaccination: from Covid-19 to Covid-21 to Covid-22 and counting, with more "manufactured" variants and then booster shots.

Science has defeated Covid with a pill that halves its symptoms and gives you other adverse ones? I wonder the necessity of booster shots now and again if Covid has been defeated --booster shots to keep one alive a little more or to suppress the effects of the "demon juice" until that particular time it will be unleashed?

My friend if you can leave youtube for a minute you'll realise covid is just about done.
There are much better pills in the works that will render it treatable.. Read the below

And what happened to you kooks' "every vaccinated person will be dead within 2 year".
Strange, you don't mention that anymore. Same way you no longer mention 5G or Bill Gates or "the test is to spread the virus" etc!

Toks2008:
I am not doubting what the law states but In some countries and some states in U.S, defendants can raise a defence to statutory rape based on a reasonable mistake as to a partner's age but usually only in limited circumstances.

Do you think the justice system is that draconian so much that they will just send someone to jail when it is proved that the victim lied about her age either verbal or perhaps forgery of age certificate?

Even in Baba ijesha's case, with a sound lawyer he will walk free. They only need to leverage on the lacuna in the local law in Nigeria that has the discrepancies of age of consent to be 11 or 18 cos the girl is 14 at the moment and the present Law in Nigeria didn't expressly provide that the age of consent in Nigeria is 18, ..

They will also need to prove that there was no force and the girl actually consented or let me use the English some olodos like Sterope and Pataricatering will process easily...that she approved of whatever was done to her by baba ijesha without any force used which could change the narrative.

A smart Lawyer will do the magic for him.

@bolded see below.
You are mistaken about the law in Nigeria. It actually says it is 18 nevermind the mention of below 11. But beyond that, in Lagos State it is clearly unambiguously 18.

I'm not sure if you know he also allegedly molested her at 7

Toks2008:
Exactly. There should be serious consequences starting from men who patronize hotels filled with underage girls to the senators using religion as a cover and to randy men who prey on helpless underage girls.

The only saving grace and this is a rare one is when the girl in question lies about her age and she is kind enough to say it in the court that indeed she lied to you...then you can have the affirmative defense but not if the lady don’t actually appear to the jury as someone about whom a reasonable mistake might be made.


Say for instance a lady is very sexually mature in looks and she lied to you that she is 18 when she is actually younger, if you can prove that she lied and she truly looks way more mature sexually then you just might get lucky.

The law actually says it makes no difference wether she lied or not. The only leniency is in age difference - say, you are 20 and she is 17, you'll still taste jail though.

Toks2008:
Babe listen and listen good,

I am human and when it comes to statutory rape, no man and i repeat, no man is a super hero so YES it can happen to me if i loose guard but we can only pray to GOD for self control.

You ladies can never understand the dynamics of sex in relation to a man's psyche.

Look at islam, do you think most of these high ranking Muslim clerics don't sleep with minors on a regular? Even the FG just filled in a charge against Kanu that he called Buhari a pedo so please don't even start with that...any man can fall, we can only pray for strong will.

Meaning what? You are implying most men are potential pedophiles. Fine, the more reason society should treat it as a serious crime - to deter men from acting on that impulse!

Charmingrascal:
This man is going to jail, no doubt.


Princess should also be punished for using a minor to set a man up, if the said lady was her daughter would she have done same?

Baba Ijesha is a disgrace!!

Genius, how else could they have proved anything? Was the girl EVER in any danger?? Were they not watching all through?

Angelfrost:
The real poison is FEAR! Yeah, you heard me right....

The sort of overcautious fear about age long eating habits being spread online by self acclaimed experts will keep doing more harm than good... Same with religion!

At this rate, soon we will only be able to safely drink water!!!

Nope. It's pure science. See below. They clearly tell you it is very much ok and healthy to combine UNRIPE plantain with beans

[quote author= post=106922378]First of all, sorry for your loss,

Second of all,
Africans and all these archaic superstition sha.
You better go buy one derica of beans and cook it till it is very soft and succulent, (you can also add one ripe plantainto it, eat and thank God for your life.

A picture speaks more than a thousand words,
Here you have it.[/quote]Stop feeding poison. See below

kingthreat:
The person probably setting him up by putting a camera and letting a minor be in the same house with Baba Ijesha is Princess. She has her aim and she is manipulating your sentiments to achieve what she wants. Baba Ijesha was intimate but did not have sex with her. The 14 year old girl is under Princess and will do whatever she says. I do not expect you to understand as you are a sheeple of a stark illiterate crying in Beninoise prison. If you think I reason via the
anus, you reason via your faeces.

Genius, it is a CRIME to be sexual with a 14 year old. See all the extrapolation and excuses you are comming up with. Even Baba Ijesha was not doing that, he was simply BEGGING. How about this: the girl is simply telling what happened and no one manipulated her - or she wouldn't have been consistent. You'll know that's the case if you can stop reasoning through your anus

kingthreat:
Thing is association is bound to happen as long as humanity is concerned. People like to be in an association or the other with common beliefs.

There are SO MANY associations to join that are of the light, that are NOT shrouded in secrecy and demonology and anti-socialism. You leave all that and go through utter humiliation and brainwashing in the name of joining a cult!

Mayng01:
This looks like a setup

kingthreat:
100% setup. Baba Ijesha is in for some big trouble.

Set up, how and for what reason? Why is a 14 year old setting him up? Was he not caught on video doing exactly what she said? You people reason through your anus

franklytrue:
Covid is dissappearing from highly vaccinated countries or the vaccine is also killing people there? Are you only comparing the US? What about the UK, Israel and others?
A vaccine that does not fully "vaccinate" you against the virus, is that one a vaccine?

This covid and the evil vaccine is just the beginning of the end. There will be no business as usual. "Manufactured" variants will keep springing up to force people to take the vaccine and ultimately the Mark of the beast (Microchip: digital certificate of vaccination and business transaction of the near future).

The world is rounding up. Little wonder why treatment or a cure is not being pushed forward as much as this hastily concocted diabolic vaccine.

You conspiracy loons have no shame. You are posting news from May and hoping no one will notice. This is October! See news from THIS MOMENT below!

But not only that, A PILL IS HAS BEEN DEVELOPED BY MERK THAT HALVES COVID SYMPTOMS! The first such pill. Other more effective cures are in the works. Covid is finished. Science has defeated covid. You kooks should start looking for another conspiracy!

Welcome to Nairaland

SenecaTheYonger:
Doesn’t even look like he’s in prison. Who knows how many women he’s fvcking there. No wonder he’s not disturbed

Of all things going on, all you can think of is fucking

Quiny32323:
Lipstick makeover at it's best, this will not solve any single problem. The lucky graduates will use the money to go and marry and start suffering. This government should work on insecurity, power generation and watch the economy grow.

Lol @ marry and start suffering. So correct

Another avenue of looting and nepotism - we all know

KimberlyWest:
Don't you think it's too early to show how uneducated you are?

No mind the hediot. He doesn't realise how irrelevant he is. He doesn't know most of us love Tiwa

Drella:
He said even if he dies via cultism today,in his next life,he will still join.


Let's focus on those that are yet to join.You see the ones that have joined already,the brainwashing will prevent them from listening.

Generally, cultists soon realise they made a big mistake joining - but by then it's too late

Drella:
If to say Femi otedola,Aliko dangote e.t.c had been killed during their youth via cultism,will they be as great as they are now?
People wey dey carry cult matter for head like you all in the name of being rugged,na dem they quick die pass.


No matter your dissuading,this guy can only be redeemed by God.

Lol @ rugged. Read on this thread how/why people join cults - it's almost always out of cowardice

AlabiKILLER2021:
Dirty gals like Tiwa shouldn't know me


Glamorous life with a dirty black pus**sy

Poor guy, you'll live your pathetic life and die miserably in your hate, totally ignored. While people like Tiwa zoom around the world celebrated, sampling the best of what life has to offer. This life no fair at all. Just don't kill yourself. I know it's tempting, but don't o