₦airaland Forum

jiangchu:
thanks you have a nice point.

can you give factual evidence like cost of an item (like milk tissue papers or rice) 2015 and now. and a good source to verify.

Cost of items cannot improve overnight with the price of oil dropping from (152 to 54) dollars. Given that oil has been our major export/Government revenue and we saved little for the rainy day. In comparison to other developing countries, even Ghana and Botswana, Nigerians also pay little tax.
Now there is a slow but gradual process of saving our oil proceeds to make us more dependent on Agriculture and mining which has contributed more than oil to GDP, especially Agriculture.

jiangchu:
i don't know may be have lost contact with the real Nigeria.

can any one convince me that the current president has done something diffrent and how it affect the real people on the street with clear evidence and scources.
Thanks

Buhari at least has raised that consciousness in Nigerians that corruption is a very big problem and must be fought by those in Government.
Yes there are concerns that it's just about witch hunting and many complaints of hippocracy, but subtly he has raised in our consciousness the need to see corruption as something to be investigated in the political class.

Nowenuse:
Developing faster because the Chinese built a railway line linking Nairobi- Mombasa (which is the biggest Kenyan project since independence) or what?

Thank you, and we have many projects going on at thesame time across the country. It's not like Nigeria is stagnant either. Infrastructural development was slow during military rule with some little developments in the seventies and early eighties, Obasanjo in eight years(1999-2007) should have done better in that aspect at least in his eight year rule, (because we had the second largest external reserve in Africa, only behind Algeria then) but things have been changing since 2011 even with the opportunities missed under Jonathan.
l am a critic of Nigeria myself when l have to be, but some of these guys just argue emotionally. Nigeria is not doing well in many aspects but that 80% arguement is stale already.

GenBuhari:
Thank god we have a competent and proactive foreign affairs ministry. Left to Osinbajo alone nothing would have happened , even this is the barest minimum. The presidency should have made it a priority in FEC and resolve on a course of action.

What other course of action should they take? You said he should have called the ambassador, that guy showed he has done that already, now you are diverting. He has called for an investigation and the details are still not very clear. What else do you want? To threaten Cameroon with war even without evidence of the killings? Ayam not understanding oh.

ensamy:
Can Obasanjo give out Yurobaland to another country ? because it was not, thats why it was given out.

Obasanjo actually fought hard for that thing, the international court rather ruled in favour of Cameroon. It would be unfair to blame obasanjo or read tribalism again into this.

Freemancipation:
No we have tried enough but north refuses to allow Nigeria to reform so that they system can be fair and just. They control the house and the senate. They control the presidency and military. So how do you think we can make that work in Nigeria.

Do you think we will be talking about Biafra today if these things were able to be done in Nigeria?

Igbo's are not the only ones facing this problem, it is national complaint even in the North. This is why we Deltans are also to be blamed, for accepting mediocrity from lbori to Uduaghan and now Okowa. There have been very few visionary Governors in the history of Nigeria.
But is the balkinization of this entity the antidote to our problem? Maybe, Maybe not.

Freemancipation:
Igbo leaders love one Nigeria because the corrupt system of government it created enables them to steal without accountability. With Biafra they know that they will not even have a chance to steal because of the systematic checks and balances in the constitution.

Whatever you think you can do in new Biafra, experiment with it first in the zoo to see how it goes.

dudebuck:
What about the no vote campaign that is going on In Anambra state right now? Is it not what we are trying to do? You elect Okeke, he achieves what can be described as mediocre at best, you kick him out and elect Okafor, same result, Okonkwo comes and does the very same thing, then come Okorie, he even does worse than his predecessors, how can you be doing the same thing again and again and expect a different result each time? Is that not insanity? I don't want to elect another theif.

But in Biafra, you would still elect Ekene, Chuckwudi, and Amadi, what would you do then? Wouldn't you protest against them and hold them accountable? Or would the name Biafra change everything?

I'm confused, other Africans hate us but love only our celebrities even the ones we do not appreciate. Why?

234GT:
Even if Nigeria is restructured, the same politicians like Amaevhi, Ngige, Fashola and the absentee Bubu will still be the ones ruling, so what's the difference?
They will still be stealing the public funds, and restructuring won't change their minds.

They steal the public funds because there is no accountability. Bring the Government closer to the people via restructuring with policies that allow for accountability, that is the clamour. They steal freely because of lack of accountability, and all the we do is complain, doing nothing. They distract us with this ethnicity jargon, religon and lack of unity. It seems we don't know our right.

This is why the South Eastern Governors are also to be blamed. The lgbos in power are more of a problem to you than the rest of Nigeria.
Tell this to your leaders.

ezeagu:
D you think any of those pictures are impressive or stand out from any other selective stream of images of an isolated affluent area in any third world country? Show us the downtown night life of Abuja, not clubs, something like this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYfPAoEW19o

I hope you're not talking about Lekki that doubles as a river and a lake every year or neighbourhoods in Abuja with mansions and huge heaps of trash by the side when you're comparing to oil camps with full electricity, running water, and sanitation.

There are over a billion Chinese first of all, secondly Chinese or any other east Asians are not represented among boat people in the Mediterranean like Nigerians are. And at least you know Nigerians are so desperate that they feel that they need to push drugs abroad and commit other crimes, while folks from other sides of the country either strap bombs to themselves at command or try their luck with severed human heads.

I'm sure east Asian countries have no help from their culture and long history of education and hard work ethic, right? Keep telling yourself that.

People who are making it in Nigeria even from poverty have no business traveling out to go push drugs, others in Nigeria just like the Chinese, travel to the west to get quality education. To grow, the world depends on western education and that is why the Asian tigers travel to the West for education more than you find in the reverse.

QueenOfNepal:
You're a disgrace to every Living thing. Your school fees should be given back to you so that you can use it to play Baba Ijebu because your reasoning is only found Outside Baba Ijebu Kiosk not inside.



Let me teach you though i don't know if your adolescent brain can comprehend what I'm saying. In International relations the one of the strongest tool a country can wield is Sanctions. Nigeria can find a way to hurt Cameroun through sanctions and also use its clout as phantom Giant Of Africa to force Cameroun to take responsibility for those killings and prosecute the Killers and also paying heavy compensation.





War is not fought among countries today because a nation can be crippled without firing a single shot

If Nigeria does that Cameroon would cry to Frances again, when Cameroonian soilders killed some Nigerian soilders occupying Bakassi in 2006, Nigeria retaliated by penetrating 15km deep from the air and it was deadly, and so they had to cry to Frances then. Nigeria has no real power to impose sanctions on her own as well.
Nigeria can however present it before the international court, although they revealed today that they found the report false.

QueenOfNepal:
97 Nigerians were killed and you are saying this nonsense.



Imagine one of your Loved ones is among this 97, will you say such?

From their report now, the Cameroonians threatened the Nigerians over payment of tax, and out of fear many fled to Nigeria, and it seems some drowned(report not totally clear). However according to them, the 97 figure seem to be a sum total of Nigerians killed by Cameroonians in the Bakassi peninsula since 2008.

signz:
Hatred for my tribe has turned you into an I.mbeci.le.

Let Mexico kill 97 Americans and see if Trump or Obama won't return the favour.

97people killed and no strong worded release by our Minister or President and no recall of our Ambassador to Cameroon. I don't know if we summoned the Cameroonian Ambassador.

97 people were killed and your concern is coming on Nairaland to insult a Tribe because of the comment of 1 person.

Your hatred has turned to madness. You're mad and you don't know it.

They said it's false report, just saw that on channels now.

Isahalbash:
Lolz! They maybe poor but they have plenty food to eat all season. If u r living in Lagos or any city, N2000 without foodstuff nah suicidal

I understand, but those who quote the 80% poverty rate don't.

Isahalbash:
They are all Nigerians as at now. Maybe, you should wait, in d future if d con3 divide, then u can talk of (19-25)% poverty rate in d south ND 80% in d north. That's if its even true.

I'm not saying they are not Nigerians, but note that when people use the word poverty rate they speak of those living below 2 dollars per day, disregarding other factors like cost of living, occupation, or currency.
Also it is painful but true that education in the core north have not been taken seriously over the years but things are changing.

GenBuhari:
Osinbajo has done nothing about the Bakassi crisis, which was created by imperialists agenda to breakup Nigeria.

So it is not surprising that he is getting praised by imperialist controlled UN for taking no action on the issue.

You want him to go to war against Cameroon and Frances? We can't do that now especially with Frances behind them, we can only protest for now and bring it before the international community while we prepare ourselves to use the army as a last resort, Or you think Frances do not want Nigeria to fall into that trap of fighting Cameroon??

shervydman:
o boy..........u get time o.

Lol, l nor answer again, but some Nigerians sha with their wack reasoning.

OMANBALA1:
Lol...This post painted Nigerians just the way they reason...It hurts but its danm true. A lot of Nigerians think with their emotions...Very weak and gullible. A lot of them appear inferior and ignorant as hell. [b]They celebrate individual success while over 80% are dying in abject poverty. [/b]But you gotta give it to them ,they pray like nobody yet they are the most corrupt and criminal minded and the proofs are there. From drug dealing, barbaric practices like sacrificing human parts for money, CORRUPTION, Boko haram, tribalism and hate etc. Nigeria has nothing to be proud of ,that's why I don't argue with people from other countries because I know we shouldn't be talking. And most Nigerian girls can be bleeped with little money in your pocket.
The leaders of that country flushed the future of their citizens down the toilet.
THE BIGGEST PROBLEM OF NIGERIA IS NOT IGBOS PUSHING DRUGS,HAUSAS BLOWING EVERYBODY UP NOR YORUBAS SACRIFICING HUMAN FOR RITUALS BUT CORRUPTION AND TRIBALISM.

You say Nigerians shouldn't be proud of individual success of her citizens that abound and has contributed to a large middle class of about 50 million because of a so called 80% poverty rate, but this is fallacious considering the fact that 95% of those successful Nigerian Entrepreneurs and tech guys are from the south. Now let's compare the poverty statistics in the south where the myriad of these individual achievers come from...

You find that both the SS, SE and SW have a poverty rate of just (19-25)%. By contrast, the North East and North west each have a poverty rate of about 80%. The Northerners are talented but radical wahabbist Islam has hindered many.
The southerners are proud of themselves but they know they have to do much more, 80% poverty or not.

AAinEqGuinea:
love it

Are you really from Equatorial Guinea or it's just a moniker?

OMANBALA1:
Lol...This post painted Nigerians just the way they reason...It hurts but its danm true. A lot of Nigerians think with their emotions...Very weak and gullible. A lot of them appear inferior and ignorant as hell. They celebrate individual success while over 80% are dying in abject poverty. But you gotta give it to them ,they pray like nobody yet they are the most corrupt and criminal minded and the proofs are there. From drug dealing, barbaric practices like sacrificing human parts for money, CORRUPTION, Boko haram, tribalism and hate etc. Nigeria has nothing to be proud of ,that's why I don't argue with people from other countries because I know we shouldn't be talking. And most Nigerian girls can be bleeped with little money in your pocket.
The leaders of that country flushed the future of their citizens down the toilet.
THE BIGGEST PROBLEM OF NIGERIA IS NOT IGBOS PUSHING DRUGS,HAUSAS BLOWING EVERYBODY UP NOR YORUBAS SACRIFICING HUMAN FOR RITUALS BUT CORRUPTION AND TRIBALISM.

OK sir, we have heard you. Nigeria is truly the worst country on earth and doesn't even deserve to be called a country. The most corrupt and tribal country in the world, much more corrupt than the Kenyans.

"The common people pray for food,shelter and rain, it matters not to them if the high lords play their game of thrones"
(Paraphrased).

ELKHALIFAISIS:
this is a man, Selfish and wicked Awolowo gave his father £2 pounds to survive, according to clear fact only 2/10th of his people manage to get the £2 handouts from government despite all the billions they have in Nigeria banks ... this young man and many of his kin's beat the odd 2 survive single handedly without government monopoly , they are achievers the envy of many tribes , I called invaders and explorers , many call them developers... yes that is what they are , where is the stupid Awo that want to starved this young man to death where is his generation in the society umu chukwu Ndi agoziri agozi nmeri bu nke umu chukwu jisia nu ike anyi ga enwe nmmeri

You also forgot to mention that another Awolowo, this time Segun Awolowo led the Malians to him.

nextprince:
So cows are not allowed to feed on ordinary grass that is not even useful in the SE, yet your people are in the north doing business and even refused to leave when ordered to?
Let the hostility continue, gradually, fulani herdsmen will vacate the entire SE, but note, your people should also be getting ready because it doesn't work that way.

Do you know the number of SEners farming in the north and in most cases free farmlands that you don't want cows to feed on grass that is not even useful to you?

But the South Easterners or other Southerners farming in the North are not killing the locals there, are they?

Rossikki:
I don't even see what is so great about those pics. I've seen pics of Lagos and Abuja that look more impressive.

Lol, these are pictures of Nigeria comparable to what he posted.

Rossikki:
I don't even see what is so great about those pics. I've seen pics of Lagos that look more impressive:

Some Nigerians mix up their arguements, they believe if they admit something about us which could be slightly positive in a myriad of problems, then it's tantamount to being totally satisfied with the way Nigeria is at the moment, so they accuse you of misplaced patriotism.
But despite her problems and the statistics that put 70% under the poverty line, it is a fact that Nigerians everywhere are also making it big time, with a rising and strong middle class, even though this has little to do with the Government, it is also a fact that those who clamour for white rule or a return to the colonial days argue from ignorance and emotion.

ezeagu:
You're ahead of them in a stagnant state, only giving the illusion of progress through averaged data and unreliable statistics. Funnily enough, you've been very quick to mention how the other Asian states were helped by the United States, but there's no elongated discussion about Vietnams history here and how the US is known to have isolated them for years.

The nominal per capita for Viet is 2,553.987 projected for 2017, and 2,741.226 for 2018, that is how fast they are growing. They have set their sights firmly on developed status, by 2020 Nigeria will be officially behind them (Nigeria is already behind them). In 2016 they grew by over 6% while Nigeria lagged at 1.6%.

http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2014/02/weodata/weorept.aspx?pr.x=73&pr.y=7&sy=2014&ey=2018&scsm=1&ssd=1&sort=country&ds=.&br=1&c=582&s=NGDPD%2CNGDPDPC%2CPPPGDP%2CPPPPC%2CLP&grp=0&a=

They have huge growth in tourism, while people actively avoid Nigeria, even those that travel to Africa regularly.

First of all, Nigeria completely relies on oil, while Vietnam has a more diversified economy. The average life expectancy of a Nig is 52 years and for Viet it's around 75. Vietnam still has issues, but it's an investment magnet that's being eyed by everyone, the political climate is sturdy, and there aren't a whole bunch of IDP camps and mumus blowing themselves up all over the place, etc.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-16567315
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-13949550

Now which magical Europeans did this for them?

Not to mention Ho Chi Minh city, commercial capital, has nothing nearly like Makoko or are removing them and upgrading the people living, it isn't a huge heap of garbage like Lagos, Vietnam has steady electricity and running water.

https://www.pullmanhotels.com/imagerie/destinations/city/ho-chi-minh-1400x788-1.jpg

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/BP04KY/ho-chi-minh-city-vietnam-pham-ngu-lao-street-at-night-BP04KY.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mmm1L6blxLM

You are right, Vietnam is way better today and has made steady progress after the war though still not there yet.
One thing we must consider though is that Nigeria for a large part of her history after independence has been under military rule following a series of coups and political instability till 1999, and obasanjo also did little in terms of infrastructure. The military made some positive improvements though but not enough compared to what they looted and the years of stagnancy.
Nigeria is on the path of great change, the problem now is the internal crises and the structure that allows such high corruption, and old school/clueless men to lead her in this age. The biggest problem however in my opinion is the dependence on oil for revenue (considering that oil only makes up 10% of Nigeria's GDP), as well as her lack of unity along religious and ethnic lines.
Notwithstanding l would not deny that Nigeria is on the path of great progress punching below her weight slowly.

Rossikki:
Togo? The GDP per capita of Togo is $590 per annum. Nigeria's is $2,700. This is average earning per person. Togo has a population of 7.5 million. Nigeria 200 million. It makes far better economic sense for a Biafran industrialist to establish his car plant in NIGERIA and export to Togo, if they'll accept his cars, rather than sinking funds in Togo with little room for expansion, low patronage, and low profits.

And all this is assuming that France allows Togo to allow you become competition for their Peugeot and other cars already there. You'll be shocked at the power a single phone call from Paris or London can have on some of these small African states.

It's true, the eleven west african states colonized by Frances have their economies controlled by them to a large extent. It's annoying.

Warship:
Technology is the bedrock of economic development



Once Biafrans take it seriously, they will become a nation of Manufacturers.

Every nation on earth wants Manufacturers in their midst.


This will make them the new China of the world.

I understand you, l served in Onitsha, and my students excelled more on technical projects than book work. The Governors in each state should create technical centers across all states in Nigeria.

Warship:
Technology is the bedrock of economic development



Once Biafrans take it seriously, they will become a nation on Manufacturers.

Every nation on earth wants Manufacturers in their midst.


This will make them the new China of the world.

Not only Biafrans, many tribes are doing well. For example your Biafrans are good in tech, but they are not the tribe currently dominating tech start UP's in Nigeria. Again technology alone does not a super power make, wealth is the key, and the white men from their ancient wars conquered and exploited civilizations to enrich themselves.

Warship:
Blaming the Whites after 57years is product of witchcraft.


Singapore South Korea etc have all developed because they took Technological Education serious



Nigeria don't have a National Award for Technological Innovations and Inventions



@freshest4live :leave the whites out of this

Do your research on Nigerians in technology, it takes more than just technology to develop a nation. The politics and the market must be ripe as well. Nigerians can compete with the very best in the world. An Edo family was reffered to as the smartest family in Britain.
They have contributed their quota to tech in Britain.