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Christianity Etc › Re: MURIC Rejects Bishop Kukah’s Almajiris Plan Of Training 10 Million Almajiris by Friend01(m): 7:54pm On Jan 03, 2019

mcquin:
And when did evangelism become a crime? Or is freedom of worship not applicable in Northern Nigeria?

Last I checked these almajaris more than anyone else need education as they are ready tools for terrorism.

Agreed, but they do not need education in the form which this reverend is trying to offer.
Religiously they are well off, except the formal education which is lacking no doubt.

If he indeed wants to help let him help them through Muslim NGOs like the MURIC prof suggested and demand for a transparent way in which such finds are utilised not this behind the brain approach of trying to convert our kids through 'help.'

Christianity Etc › Re: MURIC Rejects Bishop Kukah’s Almajiris Plan Of Training 10 Million Almajiris by Friend01(m): 6:33pm On Jan 03, 2019

5thElement:
not a surprising response coming from a 3kb enhanced mind like yours.

you haven't countered my points. is it because your skull is empty? maybe the prof is your daddy. that would definitely explain the dull genes running in the family gene pool.

you and the clueless prof give Islam a bad name. not as if it has a good name anyway.

all over the country you see mission schools and even hospitals established by the church to help the masses. what has Islam done? Nada.

even red cross is in the country providing free service to the people.

I don't expect you to understand. I only expect you to report at the north west camp of ISWAP and volunteer yourself for the next suicide bombing exercise.

What has Islām done?
You can't and you won't know since your hallelujah hypocrisy won't make you see beyond bigotry.

We don't need this kind of help.

If he wants to help let him do. it through Muslim NGOs.

You think we Muslims like. announcing to. the world what we have done and all that like you Christians do.?

The issue is none of your business in the first place.

Christianity Etc › Re: MURIC Rejects Bishop Kukah’s Almajiris Plan Of Training 10 Million Almajiris by Friend01(m): 6:32pm On Jan 03, 2019*

5thElement:
not a surprising response coming from a 3kb enhanced mind like yours.

you haven't countered my points. is it because your skull is empty? maybe the prof is your daddy. that would definitely explain the dull genes running in the family gene pool.

you and the clueless prof give Islam a bad name. not as if it has a good name anyway.

all over the country you see mission schools and even hospitals established by the church to help the masses. what has Islam done? Nada.

even red cross is in the country providing free service to the people.

I don't expect you to understand. I only expect you to report at the north west camp of ISWAP and volunteer yourself for the next suicide bombing exercise.

What has Islām done?
You can't and you won't know since your hallelujah hypocrisy won't make you see beyond bigotry.

We don't need this kind of help.

If he wants to help let him do it through Muslim NGOs.

You think we Muslims like announcing to the world what we have done and all that, like you Christians do.?

The issue is none of your business in the first place.

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Christianity Etc › Re: MURIC Rejects Bishop Kukah’s Almajiris Plan Of Training 10 Million Almajiris by Friend01(m): 12:29pm On Jan 03, 2019

Beremx:
Any attempt by you and your fellow Islamic terrorist friends in MURIC to destabilize Nigeria with your religious extremism and fanaticism will be destroyed.

Bunch of head slamming and ass hanging terrorists !!

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Christianity Etc › Re: MURIC Rejects Bishop Kukah’s Almajiris Plan Of Training 10 Million Almajiris by Friend01(m): 12:14pm On Jan 03, 2019

Beremx:
MURIC fanatic spotted. Don't worry, very soon you and your fellow terrorist brother Ishaq Akintola will face the music.

Ndi ara

You don't have to spot here alone.
I can give you my house address so you can arrest me for correcting your bigoted foolishness.

You want everyone to pander to your nonsense.

Werey!

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Christianity Etc › Re: MURIC Rejects Bishop Kukah’s Almajiris Plan Of Training 10 Million Almajiris by Friend01(m): 12:10pm On Jan 03, 2019

5thElement:
and what is wrong with winning more souls for Christ?

I'd rather allow my soul to be won for Christ than be blown up by terrorists who are only good at strapping bombs on the bodies of children and women while shouting Allahu Akbar and sitting in the comfort of their tents.

I knew a dullard like you would crawl out of that hole to say something.
Abeg, SWERVE!

Christianity Etc › Re: MURIC Rejects Bishop Kukah’s Almajiris Plan Of Training 10 Million Almajiris by Friend01(m): 11:41am On Jan 03, 2019

Beremx:
What the MURIC terrorist is simply saying is that the almajiris will be trained by Boko Haram. Rev. Fr. Kukah should save his money helping only Christians.

I am in support of the MURIC terrorist.

If a lady speaks like this I am wondering the kind of children she will be upbringing.
If you can't read, can't you think? if can't think, can't you at lest comprehend? If you can't do any of these can't you simply keep shut instead of letting out that sewage from that hole in your face.

MURIC has become is a terrorist body because they don't sing and shout hallelujah and hosana? isn't it?

The day I see one reasonable Christian make a reasonable comment that is the day I will praise God endlessly for giving you people brain.

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Christianity Etc › Re: MURIC Rejects Bishop Kukah’s Almajiris Plan Of Training 10 Million Almajiris by Friend01(m): 11:27am On Jan 03, 2019

HigherEd:
Well Nigeria is a secular country and evangelization is not a crime. If the parents of the Almajiri kids consent to their kids being schooled by a Christian mission then to hell with muric.

No be secular country, na circular federation.
I wonder if you 'secularization ' would allow Muslims educate Christian children?
You people are just bunch of hypocrites parading yourselves as tolerant and concerned individuals.
FYI- Nigeria is multi-religious country not a secular country.
Go check the meaning of the word 'secular' and see where you are wrong.

Christianity Etc › Re: MURIC Rejects Bishop Kukah’s Almajiris Plan Of Training 10 Million Almajiris by Friend01(m): 11:24am On Jan 03, 2019

daddyp76:
Ishaq Akintola is not a problem to Yoruba nation and if he have evil plans against Christian in this country he will die.....

Did you read the post at all?
I wonder if some of you leave your brains behind before talking.

Christianity Etc › Re: MURIC Rejects Bishop Kukah’s Almajiris Plan Of Training 10 Million Almajiris by Friend01(m): 11:23am On Jan 03, 2019

From all the quotes I have read so far, only GoTv has said the truth while other zombies are busy insulting their dull thinking not the prof.
I may disagree with certain things the prof use say in some. of his stance, but he is 110% spot on on this.
It is only those bigots and intolerant fools who lack critical thinking like a cursed cynics that would not read properly to comprehend the Prof's view.
let Kukah help. his fellow Christians who need it more.
If he is so concerned about the plight of the almajiri system let him do that through Muslim NGOs not this smoke screen he is trying to employ "win more souls for Christ. "
We are too smart for this.

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Politics › Re: Festus Keyamo Tackles Arise TV Journalist (See Reaction) by Friend01(m): 10:57am On Jan 03, 2019

ZombieTAMER:
Festus keyamo is a disgrace to the country....

The man is a certified fool

When it coming from a supposed Zombie tamer?

please,

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Crime › Re: Islamic Teacher Caught Defiling 5-Year-Old Girl In Lagos by Friend01(m): 10:46am On Jan 03, 2019

Sunofgod:
In the name of Islam.....chai.

Crime › Re: Islamic Teacher Caught Defiling 5-Year-Old Girl In Lagos by Friend01(m): 10:44am On Jan 03, 2019

abjisperson:
He is only practising what he preaches

Why do you people always leave your brain somewhere before talking?
Everybody condemned the act knowing no sane human being would do such yet, you showed your grand stupidity.

Politics › Re: 2019: You’re An Agent Of Satan, Fani-kayode Blast Mbaka For Endorsing Buhari by Friend01(m): 9:52pm On Jan 02, 2019

festacman:
I am not a fan of Fr. Ejike Mbaka but I doubt if FFK is a Christian as he claims. You can't speak ill of people out of hatred and still claim to be a follower of the same Jesus Christ who instructed his followers to love their enemies. It is contradictory.

Who ever takes FFK. serious needs to get himself checked.

FFK has not left anybody out his mouth diarrhoea.
Is it Bianca Ojukwu?
Or. the Hausas? or is it the Igbos?. or. Yoruba's?.
The guy is not normal.

Crime › Re: 2 Boys Caught With 10 Female Undies In Delta(photos) by Friend01(m): 9:41pm On Jan 02, 2019

ZombieTAMER:
The hustle is real

Operation thief pants on motion

Never have we had it this bad
Buhari and his 40 thieves has really buried the country in abject poverty

This is what I say to senseless people like you.

Family › Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by Friend01(m): 8:46pm On Jan 02, 2019

prettyboi1:
Religion on a general note has so many contradictions. Stop excusing Islam. I respect your religion & your views, but I'm just saying. There are so many contradictions, biases & religion is full of dogma. You're expected to not question anything.

Usually the people of all religious sects don't see the biases. If they did, religion would not be causing as much division as it causes in the world today. Like I said, I respect your views but I'm just being open in this discussion.

Islām is not dogmatic in the sense that you understand it.
It is open to criticsm not some unquestioned religious views fixated upon personal opinions.
Like everything in. life has it rules and principles so. is Islām, saying dogmatism defines Islām is not really doing justice to this religion .

You are open to ask any question that makes you think the way you do about Islām.

Family › Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by Friend01(m): 8:29pm On Jan 02, 2019

Jonra:
Here's an honest answer to your proud boasting.

Hello my Muslim Friend,

In Surah 29:46, the Qur'an says "We believe in what has been revealed to us and what has been revealed to you. Our God and your God is one, and to him we submit"

But many Muslims do not believe in the gospel, saying it's been corrupted and that the Christian God is false.

If the Qur'an affirms it, why do Muslims still deny it? Several reasons are given below.

According to the Bible;

1. God is a trinity (one in nature or essence, but three in person) (Matthew 28:18-20)
2. The son entered creation as Jesus (John 1:1-14)
3. Jesus died on the cross for sins (Mark 10:32-34, 45)
4. Jesus rose from the dead (Luke 24)

However, there's a serious problem with denying all four claims (made in the gospel) and affirming that the - the Torah, the Gospel were revealed by Allah as the Qur'an does in Surah 3:3-4

"He has revealed to you the book with truth, verifying that which is before it. And he revealed the Torah and the Gospel aforetime a guidance for the people, and He sent the Qur'an"

Therefore, any Islamic claim that the gospel is corrupted is in fact a statement that the guidance which Allah sent couldn't be protected and it ended up misguiding people.

Which creates another problem, because the Qur'an says in Surah 18:27 that no one can change the word of God.

"And recite what has been revealed to you of the book of your lord. There is none who can change his words. And you shall not find any refuge besides him"

Now, some Muslims would say that this verse only refers to the Qur'an. But the verse clearly says 'NONE CAN CHANGE ALLAH'S WORDS', which includes the Torah and the Gospel according to the same Qur'an.

Despite Allah's declaration that no one can change his words, many Muslims still say that the Bible was corrupted by Apostle Paul or by some later Christians. But if the gospel was corrupted, one begins to wonder why the Qur'an says that Christians still had the gospel during the time of Muhammad? See Surah 7:157

"Those who follow the messenger. The unlettered prophet whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures) - in the Torah, and the Gospel - it is they who will prosper"

And so more questions arise:

1. How can Christians find Muhammad mentioned in the scriptures when it was supposedly corrupted centuries earlier?

2. Allah says we'll find Muhammad mentioned in our corrupted scriptures - but we don't find him at all. Except as part of a general warning about false prophets who come to lead people away from Christ.

3. And if we did, how would we know this is not one of the corrupted parts?

4. And since our scripture contradicts Islam, why would Allah appeal to them as evidence of Islam? (As in Surah 7:157)

To compound the issue, Allah goes further to command Christians to judge by the Gospel in Surah 5:47

"Let the people of the for Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah has revealed, they are no better than those who rebel"

Why does Allah command Muslims to judge by a corrupt book?

Clearly, Olobedience to this injunction leads to judgement by the gospel which leads to the conclusion that Islam is false.

Allah continues along the lines of Surah 5:47 in Surah 5:68 with the declaration

Say:"O people of the book! You have no ground to stand upon unless you stand fast by the Torah, the Gospel, and all the revelations that has come to you from your lord."

And yet again more questions arise,

1. Why would Allah tell us we have no ground to stand upon unless we stand upon a corrupt book?

2. If the gospel has been corrupted, wouldn't Allah just tell us to get rid of it and pick up the Qur'an?

Without doubt, the Qur'an clearly maintains that the gospel is authoritative for Christians; which only makes sense if the author of the Qur'an believed that Christians have the word of God.

But the Gospel wasn't just authoritative for Christians, it was authoritative for Muhammad and therefore Muslims.

When Muhammad had doubts about his revelations, Allah commanded him to go to the people of the book (Jews and Christians). - Surah 10:94

"But if you (o Muhammad) are in doubt as to what we have revealed to you, ask those who read the book before you; certainly the truth has come to you from your lord. Therefore you shouldn't be of the disputers"

Many Muslims today act as if the Qur'an stands in judgement over the Bible but this is far from the truth. It is in fact the Bible which stands in judgement over the Qur'an. Muhammad himself could only confirm his revelations by checking to see if they line up with the scriptures of the people of the book.

But you see, Muhammad continued preaching Islam. He apparently never took the test (Surah 10:94) very seriously. If he had gone to the people of the book in search of confirmation, he would have been forced to reject the Qur'an, because the Qur'an puts Muslims in an inescapable dilemma.

EITHER CHRISTIANS HAVE THE INSPIRED, PRESERVED AND AUTHORITATIVE WORD OF GOD OR THEY DON'T?

ONLY 2 POSSIBILITIES

1. IF WE DO HAVE THE INSPIRED PRESERVED AND AUTHORITATIVE WORD OF GOD, ISLAM IS FALSE BECAUSE IT CONTRADICTS WHAT WE HAVE.

2. IF WE DON'T HAVE THE INSPIRED PRESERVED AND AUTHORITATIVE WORD OF GOD, ISLAM IS FALSE BECAUSE THE QUR'AN AFFIRMS THE INSPIRATION, PRESERVATION AND AUTHORITY OF THE GOSPEL.

Either way my Muslim friend, the Qur'an self-destructs by its affirmation of scriptures that contradicts its core teachings.

Finally, if you don't want to live with all the contradictions, let us obey the gospel of Christ Jesus as both books command.

Shalom!

And If you think I am through you are mistaking.

I want you to disprove the following contradictions. in your Bible before you stand in judgement over other people's book.

1

Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. —2 Kings 24:8

Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem… —2 Chronicles 36:9

Is it eighteen years old or eight years old?
I know I don't have the Holy ghost and I am carnal minded like you would say .
But, e joor,Ma Bi nuu, please, tell your Holy Ghost to give us the answer since this great book was 'inspired ' by God through him.

2

Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy…and they shall be your possession…they shall be your bondmen forever. —Leviticus 25:45-46

Undo the heavy burdens…let the oppressed go free,…break every yoke. —Isaiah 58:6

Bondsmen forever or go free?

3

For I am the Lord; I change not. —Malachi 3:6

And the Lord repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people. —Exodus 32:14

An unchanging Lord or one that repents?
4

For I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation. —Exodus 20:5

The Lord is good to all. —Psalms 145:9

Is Lord the one the visits iniquity upon some children or good to all?

5

No man hath seen God at any time. —John 1:18

For I have seen God face to face. —Genesis 32:30

Seen or not seen?
6.

For every man shall bear his own burden. —Galatians 6:2

Bear ye one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ. —Galatians 6:2

Who bears the burden :everyone or you can share the burden?
7.

For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. —Romans 3:23

There was a man…who name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright. —Job 1:1

Is it all or one or none?
8.

Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign. —II Kings 8:26

Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign. —II Chronicles 22:2

Even Hollywood can't produce this!
22 years old or 42 years?
Please, tell us.

9.

Submit yourself to every ordinance of man…to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors. —I Peter 2:13

We ought to obey God rather than men. —Acts 5:29

Please, just answer.

10.

And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun. —Mark 16:2

The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre. —John 20:1

Is it they or Mary?
or the Holy Ghost forgot to tell John what he told Mark?

11.

And it was the third hour, and they crucified him.—Mark 15:25

…about the sixth hour…they cried out…crucify him….Then delivered he him therefore unto them to be crucified. —John 19:14-16

Is it the third or another added three hours(six hours).
Tell us.

12.

Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned… —Romans 5:12

Very truly I tell you, whoever obeys my word will never see death. —John 8:51

Just answer!?

Please ,you. should be able to tell me If these verses have being expunged or revised(like yriu always do) revising the word of God without permission -since you agree the word of God does not change.

For your information :Qur'ān is the ONLY book on the face of the planet that has not undergone any revision, interpolation, concoction, aberration, destruction, confusion or even abrogation since it was revealed;even Sir William Murray a staunch Qur'ān critic had to unwillingly accept this.

Oga, the floor is yours.

I won't tell you shalom or salaam.
You have to finish what you started.

Family › Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by Friend01(m): 8:27pm On Jan 02, 2019

Jonra:
Here's an honest answer to your proud boasting.

Hello my Muslim Friend,

In Surah 29:46, the Qur'an says "We believe in what has been revealed to us and what has been revealed to you. Our God and your God is one, and to him we submit"

But many Muslims do not believe in the gospel, saying it's been corrupted and that the Christian God is false.

If the Qur'an affirms it, why do Muslims still deny it? Several reasons are given below.

According to the Bible;

1. God is a trinity (one in nature or essence, but three in person) (Matthew 28:18-20)
2. The son entered creation as Jesus (John 1:1-14)
3. Jesus died on the cross for sins (Mark 10:32-34, 45)
4. Jesus rose from the dead (Luke 24)

However, there's a serious problem with denying all four claims (made in the gospel) and affirming that the - the Torah, the Gospel were revealed by Allah as the Qur'an does in Surah 3:3-4

"He has revealed to you the book with truth, verifying that which is before it. And he revealed the Torah and the Gospel aforetime a guidance for the people, and He sent the Qur'an"

Therefore, any Islamic claim that the gospel is corrupted is in fact a statement that the guidance which Allah sent couldn't be protected and it ended up misguiding people.

Which creates another problem, because the Qur'an says in Surah 18:27 that no one can change the word of God.

"And recite what has been revealed to you of the book of your lord. There is none who can change his words. And you shall not find any refuge besides him"

Now, some Muslims would say that this verse only refers to the Qur'an. But the verse clearly says 'NONE CAN CHANGE ALLAH'S WORDS', which includes the Torah and the Gospel according to the same Qur'an.

Despite Allah's declaration that no one can change his words, many Muslims still say that the Bible was corrupted by Apostle Paul or by some later Christians. But if the gospel was corrupted, one begins to wonder why the Qur'an says that Christians still had the gospel during the time of Muhammad? See Surah 7:157

"Those who follow the messenger. The unlettered prophet whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures) - in the Torah, and the Gospel - it is they who will prosper"

And so more questions arise:

1. How can Christians find Muhammad mentioned in the scriptures when it was supposedly corrupted centuries earlier?

2. Allah says we'll find Muhammad mentioned in our corrupted scriptures - but we don't find him at all. Except as part of a general warning about false prophets who come to lead people away from Christ.

3. And if we did, how would we know this is not one of the corrupted parts?

4. And since our scripture contradicts Islam, why would Allah appeal to them as evidence of Islam? (As in Surah 7:157)

To compound the issue, Allah goes further to command Christians to judge by the Gospel in Surah 5:47

"Let the people of the for Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah has revealed, they are no better than those who rebel"

Why does Allah command Muslims to judge by a corrupt book?

Clearly, Olobedience to this injunction leads to judgement by the gospel which leads to the conclusion that Islam is false.

Allah continues along the lines of Surah 5:47 in Surah 5:68 with the declaration

Say:"O people of the book! You have no ground to stand upon unless you stand fast by the Torah, the Gospel, and all the revelations that has come to you from your lord."

And yet again more questions arise,

1. Why would Allah tell us we have no ground to stand upon unless we stand upon a corrupt book?

2. If the gospel has been corrupted, wouldn't Allah just tell us to get rid of it and pick up the Qur'an?

Without doubt, the Qur'an clearly maintains that the gospel is authoritative for Christians; which only makes sense if the author of the Qur'an believed that Christians have the word of God.

But the Gospel wasn't just authoritative for Christians, it was authoritative for Muhammad and therefore Muslims.

When Muhammad had doubts about his revelations, Allah commanded him to go to the people of the book (Jews and Christians). - Surah 10:94

"But if you (o Muhammad) are in doubt as to what we have revealed to you, ask those who read the book before you; certainly the truth has come to you from your lord. Therefore you shouldn't be of the disputers"

Many Muslims today act as if the Qur'an stands in judgement over the Bible but this is far from the truth. It is in fact the Bible which stands in judgement over the Qur'an. Muhammad himself could only confirm his revelations by checking to see if they line up with the scriptures of the people of the book.

But you see, Muhammad continued preaching Islam. He apparently never took the test (Surah 10:94) very seriously. If he had gone to the people of the book in search of confirmation, he would have been forced to reject the Qur'an, because the Qur'an puts Muslims in an inescapable dilemma.

EITHER CHRISTIANS HAVE THE INSPIRED, PRESERVED AND AUTHORITATIVE WORD OF GOD OR THEY DON'T?

ONLY 2 POSSIBILITIES

1. IF WE DO HAVE THE INSPIRED PRESERVED AND AUTHORITATIVE WORD OF GOD, ISLAM IS FALSE BECAUSE IT CONTRADICTS WHAT WE HAVE.

2. IF WE DON'T HAVE THE INSPIRED PRESERVED AND AUTHORITATIVE WORD OF GOD, ISLAM IS FALSE BECAUSE THE QUR'AN AFFIRMS THE INSPIRATION, PRESERVATION AND AUTHORITY OF THE GOSPEL.

Either way my Muslim friend, the Qur'an self-destructs by its affirmation of scriptures that contradicts its core teachings.

Finally, if you don't want to live with all the contradictions, let us obey the gospel of Christ Jesus as both books command.

Shalom!

I must say this should be about the most lengthy reply I have read for a very long time here on Nairaland.

Inshaa'a Allāh (God willing) I will give answers to every seeming contradiction you brought from the Qur'ān.
But before we go into that. We need to make some ground rules so that we don't end up mistaking foul for fish and fish for foul.

We believe as Muslims in all the prophets mentioned in the Torah(revealed to prophet Moses, peace be upon him) and as well as Gospel(revealed to Jesus Christ, peace be upon him) .In fact, we believe all the revelations sent down to previous prophets of the Jewish origin down to Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Almighty Allah be upon him) this we believe without any contradiction or support from outside .

Now let's delve into the contradictions you brought.

1. The Surah (in English it, means chapter) you brought - 29:49 it simply stated the obvious about what I just elucidated above.
We(muslims) believe in the revelation given to Jesus Christ which is the injeel that is, Gospel but we do not believe the Bible completely to be the word of God.
Why? It is because the Bible itself is not a revelation but a compilation of books of different accounts.
Even bible scholars will tell you that the words Jesus spoke in the NT can only fill up two and half pages of a news paper and the rest are reports of eyewitnesses of his disciples,accounts of historians and the epistles of Paul.
I would have expanded on the gospels according to John, Mathew and the rest to see if there were really written or even 'inspired' by the God through the Holy Ghost as christains believe .
Well, that's a different subject matter entirely let's not it distract us from the bone of contention.

The four points you brought to contradict the yourself (not the Qur'ān ) can easily be answered in the following biblical verses.

OT reads in Deuteronomy 6:4-5:
"Hear O Isreal:The Lord our God is one Lord. "

Isaiah reads:
"...I am the first, and I am the last and besides Me there is no God.

NT reads in 1st Corinthians 17:20
"O Lord, there is none like You, neither is there any God beside you, according to all we have heard with our ears "

Paul even writes in 1st Timothy 2:5:

"For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the MAN (not God oh, but MAN) Christ Jesus. "

I can go on and on just reeling out one verse aftwr another from your bible to show how shallow and feeble your arguments are.

2.Like I said in my first point, we believe in the gospel revealed to Jesus not the Bible as a whole.
Please, do not mistake the phrase "as a whole" to mean the whole. There are not the same.
Some parts of the bible are clearly affirmed in our Qur'ān which is consistent with the unchanging word of God we you talked about. I hope this is clear now.

The verse of 18:27 you also cites is clearly addressed to the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) about the preservation of the Qur'aan not the Bible.

It clearly states... "the book that have been revealed to you " which book? We may curiously askf which book? is it the Bible?
No. It is the Qur'ān sent to You; that is,Muhammad (peace be upon him)
The book is the Qur'ān, not another other book.

You also insisted that it was not the Qur'ān despite you knew what we would say. Here are your words:
"Now, some Muslims would say that this verse only refers to the Qur'an. But the verse clearly says 'NONE CAN CHANGE ALLAH'S WORDS', which includes the Torah and the Gospel according to the same Qur'an."

You can't be reading a verse in segments.
Even if the words of Allaah don't change it was not referring to any other revelation here specifically. It was clearly referring to the Qur'ān not the Torah or the Injeel(the Gospel) like you claimed.

We Muslims agree the words of Allah don't change.
Like He, almighty God has said in several places in the Qur'ān.
He only complements what He has sent before with another revelation giving a fuller meaning to the previous revelation.
A good example of this is the gospel of Jesus (not the Bible as a whole,so you don't mistake it ) came to give a fuller meaning to the Torah (revealed to Moses, peace be upon you) like he said in Mathew 5:17-19 .

4.The Surah 7:157 is not talking about the Bible.
Stop calling the Bible the gospel(see my earlier explanation on this point).

The Qur'ān is simply referring to the original message of Jesus which he prophesied about the comforter to come in John 14:26 and particularly in John 16:7
I know you might disagree that the comforter is the Holy Ghost, but the Holy Ghost was already there before Jesus was even born. He was with Elizabeth and Mary and it even came like a dove upon Jesus's shoulder during his baptism.

So, your argument on that is flawed.

From the four questions you asked concerning the prophesy of Muhammad in your scripture of accepting a 'corrupt' scripture to support our claim can be answered in two ways:

1.The bible as a whole is not the gospel,but it does not mean we can't find relevant passages that are consistent with the unchanging word of God like I cited earlier in the beginning of this reply .If you read Deuteronomy 18-19 of the OT ;and John 14:27 and John 16:7 NT you will get what I am saying.

2. When we say the previous books(most of gospels in the bible of the OT and NT )were corrupted :it means there were interpolations which are not consistent with the truth(In the Psalms of David, Torah of Moses and the Qur'ān ) that conciliates with what came before.

For instance, like the Trinitarian idea and Jesus becoming God are in total contradiction to what all prophets in the OT called to and believed in which is, the belief in One true God.

The Surah 5:7 is clear and explicit enough to those who can see what the Qur'aan calls to.
You were suppose to judge with the revelation which are in the Torah and gospels that are consistent with what the Qur'aan exhorts to:

Is it not in your Bible that Jesus (peace be upon him) tells you that he came to fulfill the laws of the previous prophets by worshipping God alone like he did in the garden of Gethesamne during the last hour and how he also taught his disciples the Lord's Prayer).

Is it not in your Bible that a comforter (that is Prophet Muhammad ,peace be upon him) will come?

Is it not in your Bible that Jesus prohibited worshipping of others than God?

Is it not in your Bible that Jesus prohibited adultery and fornication?

There are many more of such verses that you are not judging by in your book(though corrupted verses are abound there in)

Surah 10:94 is again, simply talking about prophesies of the Prophet Muhammad in your book not asking you Christians or Jews about guidance or how to worship.

The matter is very clear. if it wasn't so, why would God reveal to him to call you to accept him as a prophet since according to you he was asked to seek guidance from the Christians.
Does it make any sense?

And my final answer would be, the Bible is not one of the revelations we believe and neither is it a book Jesus Christ spoke about. It is a compilation NOT a revelation.
The Qur'ān stands on it own as a revelation from God has it affirms for itself with this verse from Surah Yunus(chapter Jonah) 10:37:

"And it was not [possible] for this Qur’an to be produced by other than Allah, but [it is] a confirmation of what was before it and a detailed explanation of the [former] Scripture, about which there is no doubt, from the Lord of the worlds."

I want you to produce just one single verse from your big bible(s) where the word "bible" can be found claiming to be a revelation from God.
Just one oh.

Family › Re: My Wife Is Not Comfortable With My Religious Views by Friend01(m): 12:55pm On Jan 02, 2019

Ezilytina:
Bro, did you say there are no contradictions in Quran? You are indirectly mocking yourself!
Why do you see the truth and choose to hide it because of your hatred for Christianity?

If there are no contradictions in Muslim,
why do you have a divided religion (those that believe that Muslim is a religion of war and the other believing that it is of peace) ?
Why do we have Boko-haram today?
Are they not Muslims?
Are they not practicing what your Mohammed clearly stated in your Quran and yet some people are still insisting that it is a religion of peace.

Even if I should state hundreds of contradictions in Quran, you will still not leave because going by all your post on this thread I can see that you are the type that can never accept the truth.

Tell me the truth na.?

Show me the contradictions even if it is just one?

If many people are doing what they like it does not mean there is are contradiction in the faith. It simoly means people are deceiving others to believe that the path they have taken is correct.

Here the Qur'ān says challenging those who claim there is contracdition to find them.

"Then do they not reflect upon the Qur'an? If it had been from other than God, they would have found -within it much contradiction.«
-Qur'an 4:84

Then ask it is easy.
We Muslims boldly claim the Qur'ān is from God and does not have mistakes, but we claim the Bible is a book not solely from God because in it you will find words of God, words of prophets ,words of historians ,contradictions and sadly, pornography.

If you want me to show you the contradictions in the so called word of God, I will be more than glad to do that.

Celebrities › Re: Leave Gays Alone - Alexx Ekubo by Friend01(m): 11:10pm On Jan 01, 2019

arinzos:
You don't have anything to say, other than being insultive Have a Nice Night

Celebrities › Re: Leave Gays Alone - Alexx Ekubo by Friend01(m): 10:46pm On Jan 01, 2019

arinzos:
Still an animal

Idiot.
It seems you wait for those educated idiots to speak before you can blurt out somethiing reasonable from that hole in your face.
Go and read classification of animals and get what I am trying to say into your thick brain.

Celebrities › Re: Leave Gays Alone - Alexx Ekubo by Friend01(m): 10:42pm On Jan 01, 2019

deboysben:
you can continue ranting for all I care
People Shaa and their archaic way of reasoning

huh.. so you were expecting me to dance kumbaya to your zombie-reasoning. What a loss to humanity .

Celebrities › Re: Leave Gays Alone - Alexx Ekubo by Friend01(m): 10:37pm On Jan 01, 2019

arinzos:
Are you not an animal?

Biologically speaking, an higher animal on a different level.

Celebrities › Re: Leave Gays Alone - Alexx Ekubo by Friend01(m): 10:35pm On Jan 01, 2019

CallMeGod:
I expected such reply from a typical black ignoramus... I only said that in response to his claim that no animals have been found to be homosexual in the "history of the world" and was not in any way advocating for humans to mimic animals in every aspect of life. Black man

'white man' sorry for misreading you.

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Celebrities › Re: Leave Gays Alone - Alexx Ekubo by Friend01(m): 10:33pm On Jan 01, 2019

deboysben:
do you know that many straight men like fucking women ass instead of toto so tell me the difference between him and Gay men.

Mr man if at all you are learned you should mind your fucking business

Idiot!
When you come online on a public forum, there is nothing like minding your business here.
If don't like people mentioning every single rubbish you guys write you can as well log out because no one gives a rat's arse who you are or what you do.

Celebrities › Re: Leave Gays Alone - Alexx Ekubo by Friend01(m): 10:22pm On Jan 01, 2019

deboysben:
exactly

Our main problem is the evil tyranny in aso rock

We must get rid of him

I prefer that 'tyranny' a million times than see two gay animals in our streets.

I don't ,and I will not make that mistake of measuring progress based on scientific and technological inventions with moral progress.
The two are not the same .
One is material the other is human.

Celebrities › Re: Leave Gays Alone - Alexx Ekubo by Friend01(m): 10:17pm On Jan 01, 2019

CallMeGod:
black African boy go and research before spewing trash. Many animals have been found to be gay.
If your God condemns homosexuality and still creates gay animals...then I'm sorry but he's a confused God
Now feast your eyes on your God's creation you homophobe

Because animals do it we should also do it?
Because animals feed on raw flesh and grass we should also do it?
In fact, we should start behaving like animals isn't it?
Please, whenever you are ready to see a psychiatric let me know.

Foreign Affairs › Re: US, Israel Formally Quit UNESCO by Friend01(m): 10:13pm On Jan 01, 2019

naunasabi:
Not before chasing the Arab sand dwellers into the sea?

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Celebrities › Re: Leave Gays Alone - Alexx Ekubo by Friend01(m): 10:12pm On Jan 01, 2019

SAMBARRY:
so how about the polithiefcians in aso rock and pedophiles?

Did God ever destroy people for stealing and being 'pedeophile'as yiu are insinuating?
Homosexuals should never be allowed to fester in this land we maybe dying of poverty or bad leaders but never allow homosexuals to add to the already bad situation.

Foreign Affairs › Re: US, Israel Formally Quit UNESCO by Friend01(m): 10:08pm On Jan 01, 2019

chiefolododo:
May God bless President Trump

AND

BENJAMIN NETANYAHU

He who praises idiots automatically becomes an incurable slowpoke.

Even the foolish Christians in this country delude themselves into thinking that Palestinians and Gazans are Muslims not knowing Christians are also part of its residence.
You can not know since your idiocy only reads Muslims, Muslims anytime Israel is mentioned.
And these idiots don't know that Benyamin Netanyahu do not believe in Jesus and his mother.
Read their Talmud and it will reveal all you know about these Israelis.
They call Jesus Christ a bastard(which a Muslim will never dream to utter,) and they also call his mother -Mary a prostitute (God forbid that we attribute such preposterous qualities to such noble persons) and the deluded Christians out of their drunk and convulsive hate for Islām are friends and supporters to a people who openly curse their 'God. '

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Foreign Affairs › Re: US, Israel Formally Quit UNESCO by Friend01(m): 9:57pm On Jan 01, 2019

IamD18:
US, Israel Formally Quit UNESCO .....Not in anyway a bad development.

We just can't wait in few weeks time to read the headline; Nigeria finally free from Jubril and his blind followers

You would do well in romance section.
This is way out of your league.

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