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Ok I want to put an end to this argument. As a Christian I follow every word that is in the Bible, and by that I mean every word in the Bible that applies to me. And there is no where is the new testament (which is the part that applies to us becos we are not under the law of Moses but under grace) where it is stated that we should pay tithe, offering, first fruit, etc. We are only enjoined to give (to the poor, for the work of the kingdom, etc), but not to pastors on a regular basis like it's a necessity.
If you disagree, pls show me anywhere in the new testament where we are directed to pay tithe or offering or first fruit.

LagosShia:
taught in parables? oh yes we know.but were the parables espousing violence or not? violence! thank you,end of story.

Again, Jesus taught in parables cos His words were meant for those in the kingdom, not for everybody. And He explained that is it becos you dont give something that is Holy to dogs, otherwise they will trample it under their feet and the turn to attack you.
He never ever espoused violence. Read Matt 26:51-52, when Jesus was being arrested, Peter drew his sword and sliced the ear of one of the soldiers and Jesus rebuked him and even healed the soldier by replacing the sliced ear.
He healed the man that was trying to arrest and kill him and even rebuked His own disciple cos he (Peter) wanted to use violence.

Now imagine what Mohammed would have done if he was the one being arrested. I'm very sure he would ave fought with them and killed as many as possible,

And you actually believe all these rubbish being perpetuated and posted by the agents os the anti-Christ? This is the one you are quick to believe and hold on to but not what the Bible says.
Judge yourself dear

mazaje:
Evidence that life does not end here on earth pls. . . .I don't want them say them say, pure evidence i what i want pls. . . .

Evidences abound: we have cases of people who died and woke to give testimonies; we have prophesies from prophets; we have visions shown to visionaries, etc etc
What other evidence do you want? Do you wanna experience it first b4 u believe? By then it just might have been too late cos you would either be in hell or heaven by then, and God forbid it's hell.

We are not talking about criminals, we are talking about pastors who are being called thieves simply cos they live big.

m.i

Yes I shed tears cos I know where you are heading if you do not repent. Jesus loves you and does not want to see anyone go to hell cos itz real. Life does not end here in the world.

liaslo++:
@topic before talking nonsense read ur Holy Corrupt Bible very well.

Luke19:27

"And as for these enemies of mine who didn't want me to be their king--bring them in and execute them right here in front of me.'"

is this one a toy killing or wat?

Why did u take it out of context? You talk about something you dont even know. In that passage, Jesus wasnt talking about Himself but rather it was a parable about a certain nobleman. Read from verse 11 to get the context right. Dont talk about what you dont know my dear.

LagosShia:
Numbers 31:17-18
Now kill all the boys (in Midian). And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

Judges 21:10-12
10So the assembly sent twelve thousand fighting men with instructions to go to Jabesh Gilead and put to the sword those living there, including the women and children. 11“This is what you are to do,” they said. “Kill every male and every woman who is not a virgin.” 12They found among the people living in Jabesh Gilead four hundred young women who had never slept with a man, and they took them to the camp at Shiloh in Canaan.

1 Samuel 6:19
And he smote the men of Bethshemesh, because they had looked into the ark of the LORD, even he smote of the people fifty thousand and threescore and ten men: [/b]and the people lamented, because the LORD had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter.

[b]Luke 19:27
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

Luke 12:49
"I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled!

Matthew 10:34
"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."

2 Peter 2:12
"These false teachers are like unthinking animals, creatures of instinct, born to be caught and destroyed. They scoff at things they do not understand, and like animals, they will be destroyed."

John 2:15
[Jesus] made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables.

Psalms 137:8-9
O Babylon, you will be destroyed. Happy is the one who pays you back for what you have done to us.Happy is the one who takes your babies and smashes them against the rocks!

Psalms 139:19-22:
"Surely thou wilt slay the wicked, O God: Depart from me therefore, ye bloodthirsty men. For they speak against thee wickedly, And thine enemies take (thy name) in vain. Do not I hate them, O Jehovah, that hate thee? And am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: They are become mine enemies."

Matthew 10:34
"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."

Luke 22:36,38
[Jesus] said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one, " The disciples said, "See, Lord, here are two swords." "That is enough," he replied.

Matthew 10:35
35 For I have come to turn “‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—

Luke 12:50-53
50 But I have a baptsm to undergo, and what constraint I am under until it is completed! 51 Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. 52 From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three. 53 They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.”

Hosea 13:16
"Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up."

Revelation 2:22-23
"Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works."

Deuteronomy 17:2-5
If there be found among you , that , hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them , Then shalt thou , tone them with stones, till they die.

Your choice of verses from the Holy Bible and Quran alone shows your obvious bias.
And if you must know, the verses you chose from the Bible were taken out of context thus twisting their true meaning. Besides Jesus taught in parables because it is not meant for those "outside the kingdom" to understand which is why people like you dont understand most of the things He said. You just take it literally thinking you know the meaning when u really dont. Words in parable are not to be taken literally.

PA1982:
And?

And it means those pastors being called all sorts of names and being persecuted are actually true pastors. They are being persecuted just as our Lord Jesus was persecuted.

piphunter:
@FXking do you believe in extraterrestrial life? i somehow find it very difficult to believe we are alone in this universe with all its uncountable stars and planets. i think extraterrestrial life has been living on this planet for ages and have a part to play indirectly in mans technological advancements over the ages,
just my 2 pence thought doe

I have loads of documented evidence (videos) that we are not alone, but despite all that I still cling to the fact that we are alone. This is becos the earth is such a privileged planet that the elements which support life only exist here. If there is life in other planets or even other galaxies, we ought to have found them by now given the kind of advanced telescopes we have such as the Hubble Space Telescope and the new James Web Telescope.
These are telescopes that see as far as 14billion light years away.

Now who dare says Islam is a religion of peace

Q: Can you prove these statements from the Qur’an?

A: [Sani Haliru, who is now known as Solomon Haliru (Paul Haliru’s brother)] brought out two copies of the original Qur’an in the Arabic & English translation. He gave me one, and told me to open the book to Surah Al- baqarah chapter 2 vs 216. It says, “Holy fighting is ordained (prescribed) for all muslims, whether they like it or not, as far as it is good and approved by Allah through his prophet Mohammed.”

Q: Where is it in the Qur’an that killing is also permitted by Allah?

A: Look at Surah Al-baqarah chapter 2 vs 191 “And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. An Al-Fitnah is worse than killing. And fight not with them at Al-Masjid-Al-Haram (the sanctuary at Makkah), unless they (first) fight you there. But if they attack you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.” Muslims are told to kill and fight in the cause of Allah.

Q: Does it mean that IBB and all these Muslim traditional rulers and Governors that are sponsoring Boko Haram to kill Christians and burn our churches in the North are not aware of the passage in the Qur’an that says there must not be compulsion in Islam as Mohammadu Buhari asserted in a widely publicized interview on Saturday, the 21st of April, 2011?

http://www.naija247news.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3291&catid=92&Itemid=275#.TywAeXGhK00.facebook

This is pathetic.

IBB has more than 600 men and women Jihadists who are under his pay role. They are scattered all over the Country and he (IBB) can use them to destroy Nigeria.
Asari Dokubo, etc were my colleagues in Libya terrorist camp- Converted Boko Haram leader.

http://www.naija247news.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3291&catid=92&Itemid=275#.TywAeXGhK00.facebook

This is the beginning of the break-up of Nigeria which we have long awaited. It's high time!

Kano is witnessing exodus of Igbo people from the state after the bomb attacks that killed hundreds in Northern Nigeria’s biggest city.

http://weeklytrust.com.ng/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8373%3Apost-boko-haram-attacks-igbo-quit-kano-in-droves&catid=41%3Anews&Itemid=30

Lasinoh:
Not even for his so-called confused Christians.

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What do u mean by such statement?

ogbongzky:
For this naija?

Mynd_44:
She will beat you to he'll with that Bible

But really, what better way to tell and show someone you truly love them other than giving them the Bible as gift? It means you love them so much that u dont want them to miss heaven.

I shed tears to see how far the devil has deceived people and holding them captive. The harvest is in deed plentiful but the labourers are few.

Buy her a Bible and tell her you love her but Jesus loves her more.

Hell is real! Matt 3: 10-12; 7:19; 5:22; 10:28; Rev. 19:20; Luke 13: 7,9; John 15:6; Rev. 20:10-15.

Please be wise cos where you end up is entirely your decision.

Some people in here are bound for hell.

Jesus said if you are a true follower of Him then u must suffer the things he suffered cos no servant is greater than his master. Jesus was called all sorts of names by the people of that time. They even accused Him of using the power of Baal to perform miracles.
Any pastor who is not being persecuted by being called names is not a true pastor.

Pls name your best Nigerian musician as well as your best Nollywood actor/actress and give reasons for your choice.

2good:
Not again!

Yes, cos some people are yet to get it.

I am the Way, the Truth and the Life, no man commeth to the Father except by Me (John 14:6).
This shows Jesus is the only way to the Father and to heaven, so if die without accepting Jesus as your lord and saviour it is obvious you are going to HELL!

Mind wat u say so u dont bring curses upon urself

Jesus said if you are a true follower of Him then u must suffer the things he suffered cos no servant is greater than his master. Jesus was called all sorts of names by the people of that time. They even accused Him of using the power of Baal to perform miracles.
Any pastor who is not being persecuted by being called names is not a true pastor.

Jesus said if you are a true follower of Him then u must suffer the things he suffered cos no servant is greater than his master. Jesus was called all sorts of names by the people of that time. They even accused Him of using the power of Baal to perform miracles.
Any pastor who is not being persecuted by being called names is not a true pastor.

Jesus said if you are a true follower of Him then u must suffer the things he suffered cos no servant is greater than his master. Jesus was called all sorts of names by the people of that time. They even accused Him of using the power of Baal to perform miracles.
Any pastor who is not being persecuted by being called names is not a true pastor.

Jesus said if you are a true follower of Him then u must suffer the things he suffered cos no servant is greater than his master. Jesus was called all sorts of names by the people of that time. They even accused Him of using the power of Baal to perform miracles.
Any pastor who is not being persecuted by being called names is not a true pastor.

Pastor Kun:
^^^
Doesn't your fraudulent Oledepo not interpret and twist the bible to suit himself? Yet you are ignorant and deluded enough to come and idolize him on this forum. That aside doesn't Faith Oledepo preach in church? Is dat not further evidence that your bishop is a hypocrite?

Mind how you talk about the men of God, you just might be bringing curses your way by the words of your mouth.

Come to think of it, breaking away from the "dark continent" may be the solution to our problems cos I believe our problems are spiritual. We are having the problem we are having today cos we remain part of a cursed continent called Africa. Go and read the book of Genesis if you dont believe me.
I have spoken!