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2good:
They are con men because they sell lies and deceit to you, which your gullibility makes you to buy, while they extort and milk you dry of your money, living a life of affluence while you live a struggling life, waiting on the day all their prayers will come to pass in your life.

Again, how do u know the things they say are lies. Have u heard any one of them say something that is not in the Bible? If you do pls I wld love to know.

Pls leave the guy alone, it is in the Bible to give first fruit as well as tithe and offerings so I dont know what you guys problem is. This is why many people struggle in their lives - they dont give to God that which belongs to Him, they rob God and no man can rob God and escape.

Jenwitemi:
And what if a christian "damages" his/her body with a Jesus tattoo? Will he/she still go to hell, or would that be an exception?

If you kill in the name of Jesus, does that make it right? The Bible says dont kill, so dont kill. The Bible says dont damage ur body, so dont damage ur body. Simple and clear!

JAkpayen:
Make una free FXKing2012 naa! RESOLVED: FXKing2012 is not a FX trader after all.

odiaero:
^^ I tell ya, TatooKing, lwkmd 

What you say may come back to bite you, remember I remain the missing link.

jamace:
Unbelieveable! Fxking2012 Missing In Action on NFP day, and found discussing TATTOO? Shocking!  

May the pips be with you.

I'm so vast and that's why I'm an authority in so many subjects, so pls dont be shocked cos u just mite see me discussing music, sports, religion, breast cancer, space science or even extraterrestrial life.

aguiyi:
i caught fxking2012 here 

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-862598.0.html

You didnt catch me cos I was never in hiding.

PA1982:
You have an interesting point of view. How do you reach that conclusion, given the verse itself?
I've taken the trouble to reada number of interpretations of matthew 18:18, none of them talk about proclaiming or cursing.
here's some context for you:
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/3307-binding-and-loosing
http://www.inplainsite.org/html/binding_and_loosing.html

and most intersting
http://bible.cc/matthew/18-18.htm

"Barnes' Notes on the Bible

Whatsoever ye shall bind , - See the notes at Matthew 16:19. These words were spoken to the apostles. Jesus had before addressed the same words to Peter, Matthew 16:19. He employs them here to signify that they all had the same power; that in ordering the affairs of the church he did not intend to give Peter any supremacy or any exclusive right to regulate it. The meaning of this verse is, whatever you shall do in the discipline of the church shall be approved by God or bound in heaven. This promise, therefore, cannot be understood as extending to all Christians or ministers, for all others but the apostles may err. "

Pls dont forget people interpret the Bible in many different ways and thatz why there are several interpretations of Bible verses out there. I take the Bible just as it is and I never try to twist or interpret it to suit me.

Talking about the potency of curses, remember when Jesus was hungry and He got to a fig tree but the tree had no fruit and Jesus cursed the tree, and the tree was dead by the following day. And Jesus said we can do all He did if we have faith. Read Mark 11: 12-14 & 20-22

So if Bishop Oyedepo places a curse on Boko Haram, what makes you think it will not work?

jamace:
@Fxkking2012

Your attention is needed here badly:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-849246.1312.html

On my way there to see watz up.

musKeeto:
If you do not observe these other laws, then it's fair to say you hate tattoos naturally and would like to use a 'divine order' to justify that hatred.

Levticus 19
v.19
v.27

Those are laws of Moses and they do not apply to us becos we are not under the law but under grace. But the one about not damaging your body in anyway still apply to us becos it is in the new testament that our body is not ours and we must keep it right.

It's amazing how people interpret the Bible to suit them and suit the present day. The Bible says women are not to talk in church, pls dont try to interpret it just to suit you.

crossman9:
"FXKing2012" I NEVER asked are you born again some times it gets past us doing battle over mini demigods

Yes I am born again.

crossman9:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-26125.192.html

we need to join and do battle with these Muslims twisting our bible

Jesus never commanded us to do battle, He said to show love to everybody and win their souls.

2good:
Cos I am smarter than you on such matters, I use my brain properly to think

The fact that claim to be very sure MOG are con men even without any evidence goes to show how smart u truly are.

2good:
Are you not tired of saying thesame thing? These men of god you always talk about are con men and have no single power to inflict curse on anyone!

I'm not tired cos we are not to be tired while trying to save souls. And it amazes me how you are so sure they are con men, you seem to know everything.

PA1982:
^^^FXKing2012, I'm saying you're so lazy you couldn't be bothered to Google a bible quote.
So I sourced it you.

I did not provide the verse cos I wanted you to search for it in the Bible and perhaps by so doing you will see a verse that captures ur soul that makes u repent and give ur life,

The Bible is made up of letters, prophesies and even Words from the mouth of Jesus. Everything put together makes up the Word of God cos those prophesies and letters were inspired by the Holy Spirit. So dont ever think cos it's a letter by Paul then it's not the Word of God.
And yes women are not supposed to talk in church.

PA1982:
^^^ What a lazy fellow you are, to be sure.
You apply a text referring to the apostle Peter to Oyedeo and then don't the courtesy to provide chaper and verse.

I Googled it, FXKing2012.
It's Matthew 18:18

Now try explaining what this text has to do with some preacher cursing BH, please.

It means if you are spiritually strong enough to bind/proclaim/curse, etc on earth, it will be sanctioned in heaven and thus must come to pass.

All of you posting rumours and rubbish wt no facts about the church and men of God had better STOP IT NOW!, you are heaping curses upon yourselves. Be wise!

crossman9:
Albert Einstein “great minds and great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.”

Anything our man of God touches that is why the (first Yokoos( crashed and they had to make a (yokoos 2) as was announced I have the video where pastor Chris said this we are bring out (yokoos 2) and for the record I have account on Facebook and Yokoos? (Yokoos 2) has some features that is useful but it won’t even up load videos or take massive text notes it crashes so how can you talk such rubbish, you never get a thing right and let me tell you? I know people in the church I have tracked down since leaving “Christ embassy” and they have deleted there accounts. it is just a shell left and there still very active in the church, so why are they still using Facebook more than Yokoos explain this not even the member are using it that much explain this then you silly persons?

PA1982

Sounds like you need to get your “p45” as we say in the UK as you’re out of JOB here

And to good2 get a grip please check the fact first please next pastor Chris will bring a mobile out and it will be better than "apple" i phone and nokia and it will be even better than a tooth brush in your travel kit you will say it  will cook my dinner and more come on smell the coffee?

What i found really shocking on Yokoos was this it was even more open with blasphemy calling him daddy and father this is forbidden in the bible, you show me one place apart from the apostle Paul saying he is like a father to you but one techy note Yokoos is simply boring it lack substance not because I don’t like the church for what it did to me it just lacks the meat on the bones  it is just another mind control tool for the church
1 Thessalonians 2:11-12

New International Version (NIV)
11 For you know that we dealt with each of you as a father deals with his own children, 12 encouraging, comforting and urging you to live lives worthy of God, who calls you into his kingdom and glory.

New International Version (©1984)
And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.
New Living Translation (©2007)
And don't address anyone here on earth as 'Father,' for only God in heaven is your spiritual Father.
English Standard Version (©2001)
And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven.
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
International Standard Version (©2008)
And don't call anyone on earth 'Father,' because you have only one Father, the one in heaven.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
And you should not call yourselves “Father”, in the earth, for one is your Father who is in Heaven.
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
And don't call anyone on earth your father, because you have only one Father, and he is in heaven.
King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, who is in heaven.
American King James Version

PA1982:
Who died to make you forum king?
I'll post as I see fit.

@FXKing2012- try googling the text "And don't address anyone here on earth as 'Father,' for only God in heaven is your spiritual Father. "
I did, and it's Matthew 23 9.

You need to understand what the Bible meant by "Father" in that particular verse. Ok, are u saying that the father who gave birth to you shldnt be called a father? Father has different meanings based on the context in which it is being used.

musKeeto:
If you do not like tatoos, smoking or drinking, why don't you just say so instead of creating new commandments for God?

My dear I did not write the Bible so they aint my commandments.

@Mabel, you are doing a great job, pls keep it up and stay blessed.

Those of you with tattoos on your body, pls note that it is evil before God. The Bible says your body does not belong to you and thus you must not do anything to tarnish it. So it is evil to do anything that damages your body such as tattooing, smoking, drinking too much, etc.

Leviticus 19:28
New International Version (NIV)
28 “‘Do not cut your bodies for the
dead or put tattoo marks on
yourselves. I am the LORD.

Also, I know most people don't know that tattooing has its history in paganism. People just adopt cultures and lifestyles without asking questions. Below is a text from the history of tattooing:

"In 1891, archaeologists discovered
the mummified remains of amunet, a
priestess of the goddess hathor, at
thebes who lived some time between
2160 BC and 1994 BC.
This female mummy displayed several
lines and dots tattooed about her
body - grouping dots and/ or dashes
were aligned into abstract geometric
patterns. This art form was restricted
to women only, and usually these
women were associated with ritualistic
practice.
The Egyptians spread the practice of
tattooing throughout the world."

www.designboom.com/history/
tattoo_history.html

crossman9:
Albert Einstein “great minds and great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.”

Anything our man of God touches that is why the (first Yokoos( crashed and they had to make a (yokoos 2) as was announced I have the video where pastor Chris said this we are bring out (yokoos 2) and for the record I have account on Facebook and Yokoos? (Yokoos 2) has some features that is useful but it won’t even up load videos or take massive text notes it crashes so how can you talk such rubbish, you never get a thing right and let me tell you? I know people in the church I have tracked down since leaving “Christ embassy” and they have deleted there accounts. it is just a shell left and there still very active in the church, so why are they still using Facebook more than Yokoos explain this not even the member are using it that much explain this then you silly persons?

PA1982

Sounds like you need to get your “p45” as we say in the UK as you’re out of JOB here

And to good2 get a grip please check the fact first please next pastor Chris will bring a mobile out and it will be better than "apple" i phone and nokia and it will be even better than a tooth brush in your travel kit you will say it  will cook my dinner and more come on smell the coffee?

What i found really shocking on Yokoos was this it was even more open with blasphemy calling him daddy and father this is forbidden in the bible, you show me one place apart from the apostle Paul saying he is like a father to you but one techy note Yokoos is simply boring it lack substance not because I don’t like the church for what it did to me it just lacks the meat on the bones  it is just another mind control tool for the church
1 Thessalonians 2:11-12

New International Version (NIV)
11 For you know that we dealt with each of you as a father deals with his own children, 12 encouraging, comforting and urging you to live lives worthy of God, who calls you into his kingdom and glory.

New International Version (©1984)
And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.
New Living Translation (©2007)
And don't address anyone here on earth as 'Father,' for only God in heaven is your spiritual Father.
English Standard Version (©2001)
And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven.
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
International Standard Version (©2008)
And don't call anyone on earth 'Father,' because you have only one Father, the one in heaven.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
And you should not call yourselves “Father”, in the earth, for one is your Father who is in Heaven.
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
And don't call anyone on earth your father, because you have only one Father, and he is in heaven.
King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, who is in heaven.
American King James Version

Could u pls give the Bible verse where it says not to call anyone father, cos it's definitely not 1Thes. 2:11-12.

diluminati:
Ok i want to place my judgement on Fake Fastor Ofedepo.

Your curse will never work. even if you curse with the back of you tongue and cheek in mouth, nofin go happen.

Why? The person who will sanction your curse has a discerning view from You. Read below!

So ask me na who go activate ofedepo curse now? hmmm? Since Jesus nor go gree, maybe na ajankoko babalawo na him go do am. Oloshi!

You did a good job with al these quotations from the Bible but you left out the part that talked about whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven and whatever you loose on earth shall be made loose in heaven, as well as the part that talked says the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence and only the violent shall (complete it)

2good:
Prayer doesn't work. It is a waste of precious time. Prayer time should be spent working and thinking on how to make your life better

This is pathetic and, yes, disturbing.

Are you really saying prayers don't work? Or you are just saying Oyedepo's prayers do not work.

2good:
For your information, Mark Zuckerberg the owner of Facebook at 27, is worth $13.5 billion, ranked as 52nd richest man in the world(http://www.forbes.com/wealth/billionaires/list), the revenoe of Facebook in 2011 is $3.71 billion, Facebook have about 845million active users meaning 1 in every 8 people on earth use Facebook(using 7 billion population as a benchmark), they employ about 3,000 people (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook), Facebook is available in several languages and Facebook just went public and is expected to worth $100 billion dollars after the sales of their IPO.

Do you understand what you mean by saying Yookos will take over Facebook? Thats the problem with religion turning people to illiterate because you just refuse to research and get to know what is happening around you. Always try to be rational in your analysis and don't allow religious sentiment to becloud you.

When was facebook founded and when was Yookos founded? Did anyone envisage that facebook wld one day be bigger than Myspace? At the rate at which Yookos is moving, it's only a matter of time before it overtakes twitter then facebook.
And u dont have to bring religion into everything.

dekung:
My question still holds, if you are God will you be busy 'COMING DOWN HARD' on a handful of Nairalanders whose major arsenal of weaponry is not more than a laptop or a small phone with internet connection and leave BH who are terrorising that sovereignty of our nation

The terrorist are already condemned, why would u wanna join them in being condmned?

Anything the Man of God touches must prosper. The Bible says all things are ours, so it's no surprise Yookos is about to surpass facebook. Yookos may even buy facebook very soon.

And I notice something quite disturbing: so many people are so quick to judge and abuse men of God. Pls stop it and ask for forgiveness in order not to be condemned.

2good:
You still don't get the message? So pathetic. You are so lost in your delusion!

I think u are the lost one here, u need to find ur way to Christ.

dare2think:
Lol, Fxking2012.

You exemplify what religion can do to does who allow a fellow Man to their thinking for them. You have submitted your Hope, salvation and redemption at the feel of fraudulent men hence the reason why you choose not to reason. Anyway its your choice.

God's judgement will leave the corrupt politicians and church business-men and come down on Nairalanders. Which God do you serve?

Shed tears for yourself for allowing yourself to be fooled by a mere mortal that was born like you and will die like you or anybody. More sadly, shed tears for gifting your ability to think to charlatans and fraudsters.

How do u know he is corrupt, do u have all the necessary evidence or u are just blindly following what some haters say? Are u God to know who is serving Him truly and those that are fake?

To those abusing MOG, remember that wild animals devoured the children who were making jest of Elijah in the Bible. Again,, dont let the judgement of God come down hard on u for making jest of His people.

PA1982:
^^^ 

I'm amazed you're foolish enough to cite that thread here!

Since when has exposing the truth become foolish. The devil will never want the truth be told so people do not follow the true God.

odiaero:

Lol

@ Topic, i guess she ran out of luck, am suspecting many Airlines crews to be doing this, it's just a matter of whom ran out of luck

Wetin u dey find for here again? Abeg comot here now nowwwwwwwww

It is true that Bishop Oyedepo's missile has started causing confusion in the camp of Boko Haram, just go to https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-859846.32.html to see how.

ugbo:
It's shame that people do no believe in miracle. I do. I have experienced it twice.

I was ill(well feverish) on a hot sunny day in 1994, I could hardly walk, I was cold and shaking. However I got up and proceed to the pharmacy to get fansidar, on my way I decided to eat at a local mama put's place as I have not eaten all morning. I ate two plates of solid pounded yam and egusi soup. By the time I finished I was sweating all over. My fever disappeared. I was miraculously healed by the pounded yam and egusi soup.

Another incident, I use to occassionally suffer unexplained headaches. One of those days, I was suffering such headache, it was rather severe this time. I lay down in sofar, just waiting for it to pass, delicately resting my head, and in came running my younger brother, he said to me, in a rather hush tone, "Hilary is at the door asking for you", I jumped, I was startled, the reason being that Hilary was one of the most beautiful girls in our area and the sort of girl you can only dream of as a teenager. Well she wanted me to take her through Maths home work etc. It was only at the end I realize my headache wasn't there anymore, and that infact from the moment I head her name, my headache disppeared. My brother healed me in the name of Hilary. Wow!

So yes! all you doubting thomas believe and ye shall get your miracles! My only querrell with FXKing2012 and his likes are that you do not need to go to Pastor Chris(whom I consider one of the greatest fraudsters in living memory), or Oyedepo, or Adeboye to get your miracles, correct pounds or a beautiful girl's name can provide the same miracle experience. I KNOW BECAUSE I AM A WITNESS!!

Martian:
God just showed me a vision. Oyedepo needs to pray and go on a 40 day fast effective immediately!!! In the vision, Boko Haram people were planning on attacking prominent MOGs, and since Oyedepo was "bold" enough, to curse them from the comfort of his church, there will be retribution. Boko Haram is going to blow Oyedepo to kingdom come.

Thus saith the Lord of Hosts.

Those of u making jest of the Word of God and MOG, I pray God's judgement does not come down hard on you. I shed tears to see what the devil has turned men into; this is really disturbing. The earlier you give your heart to Christ and learn to honour men of God, the better for you.