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jaephoenix:
I just gave you a scenario. An evolutionary biologist cannot be a Christian cos his work negates his belief. Some people are Christians cos its the most 'natural' belief available but they don't believe its teachings
Thats my point

People work for money. Nobody worships his work. Belief is different from knowledge. You can know something without believing in it. The biologist professes only his belief by relating with co-believers. Your analogy is faulty. I have pastored in Winners and RCCG. Two churches with different ideologies. While I pastored those churches faithfully in line with their ideologies, I still had my own ideologies. Teaching Winners or RCCG congregants does not make me a fan of their ideologies. What I do outside of Winners and RCCG is what defines me, same as the biologist in question who openly professes his faith as a christian biologist and not as an atheistic biologist. He's a teacher for a while but a Christian for life.

jaephoenix:
Does cooking negate the Christian cook's belief? No. In the case of science, it completely goes against any theistic beliefs. For example, a Christian evolutionary biologist would go to church to teach creationism on Sunday and come to work on Monday to research and teach evolution. Does it make sense ? Cos in his mind, he'll know that creationism is a farce while he can prove evolution
Read up about Newton's religion.
I haven't had time to research on the religions of those other 'christians' you talked about
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Isaac_Newton

Go and sit down, you clown. I showed you Christian scientists whose science never negated their Christian beliefs! Tell another lie.

The christian biologist fallacy up there is illogical. Humans often separate issues of work, religion and marriage whenever they find it necessary. A man's innate belief is not defined by what he does in the classroom or church. It is defined by what he identifies with outside the classroom and church. Scientists who lived as Christians and died as Christians are proofs that you're a liar. Even after seeing that many of these scientists even wrote faith based books as I previously explored in a previous post.

jaephoenix:
You referred me to CBS Reality, that they talk about ghosts and stuff, so it must be true. So which particular show on CBS Reality are you talking about?

Which show were you calling scripted before you asked this question?

jaephoenix:
I just scrolled and checked and cant see any evidence. So show me

Maybe I'll be the one God will use to cure your dementia!

Click the link, also see screenshot!

https://www.nairaland.com/8177501/experience-graveyard/3#131416294

Efuaye:
As oppressive as Abacha junta was, he couldn’t stop people from protesting!
I remember our days in Pen Cinema Agege, Lagos, facing military men dressed to shoot at protesters, yet we protested!
There will be a spontaneous protest that will shake this country up unless something urgent is done to fix the failing economy.

Hahaha!!!

"How many student soldier go Kill o.. 2x

Eh, dem go kill us tire 2x

How many students soldiers go kill."

Nostalgia.

jaephoenix:
Which particular shows on Reality TV are you talking about?

Which particular shows are you claiming to have been scripted?

jaephoenix:
Was I referring to you? If you had a convo with another atheist and tell him atheists are retards, why should I respond? Its just like your fellow christian DTruthSpeaker that insults and curses atheists with every comment he makes.

Liar! You wee having a direct convo with me, not with another Christian, and you refered to me and other Christians as retards. Go and cute your dementia!

jaephoenix:
I have had this convo before. Newton isnt a christian. By today's standard of Christianity, he'll be termed an antichrist.
By the way, was their inventions produced by Christianity or science? Did they make inventions by praying in the lab or actually conducting scientific researches?

So, you lying atheist is the one who would tell us Newton's religion? Lol. By the way, was Newton the only Christian scientist mentioned in the list? What gave you the audacity to refute my claim using a false Newton narrative?

Is it not foolish to ask if Christian scientists make inventions by praying in the lab? Have you asked if a Christian Cook makes food in the kitchen by praying? Or who told you that a Christian tailor makes clothes by praying in her shop?

jaephoenix:
Lol. Scroll back. You called me a liar and then a retard. Meanwhile I haven't called you a name. If I have, show me where.
Its like you christians think insults is how you engage folks, and not by conversations. And it frustrates you because your arguments are so flawed and you cannot reply. First DTruthSpeaker, now you
Lol 😆

Yes, I said atheist are liars. That was all I said. You replied that christians are retards. Something must be wrong with you to have forgotten what you wrote that made me give you that response. Go back and read. Cure your dementia.

jaephoenix:
CBS Reality is scripted. I know u don't know what that word is. Lol 😆

Is everything not scripted to you? Even you yourself, you're scripted according to your defective logic. Stop living a scripted life, lying atheist!

FRANCISTOWN:
Poofs. I can't video record my dream or feelings even if I got any. I had shown you how you can verify whether I was lying or not. Tell me how I can verify your friend's dream.

The lies are very obvious already. That I didn't expose it immediately does not mean you escaped. So many k legs in the fabricated story.

You should go and lie down in a densely populated cemetery and video record yourself sleeping overnight to prove it. Why should I be the one to go prove your illogical lies?

FRANCISTOWN:
Shame on your village people.
Where and when did I say only atheists are scientists?

You've been exposed so you must deny. You liar! A man who went to sleep on an imaginary graveyard because it was dark and he was tired. Meanwhile, before the liar laid himself down , he could use his hand to feel around and know the length and breadth of what he wanted to lay upon. That's minus the fact that Nigeria has no such darkness that you won't be able to see the entirety of a structure once you are in close proximity to it. Besides, the liar forgot that no matter how dark it is, it becomes brighter at midnight. The pathological liar is telling us that he slept straight into the morning on concrete without waking up until he saw what he slept on in the morning. And now, he and his Jaephoenix liar are gloating on a false claim that the less scientific you are, the more Christian you become but now wants to deny it after being exposed. I am a mathematician myself and a devout Christian!

jaephoenix:
I noticed that the more scientifically deficient a person is, the more religious they become. Because they cannot explain a lot of phenomenon ,they attribute it to the supernatural. Their knowledge gaps are plugged with god.

Another proof that you guys are chronic liars! To the best of my knowledge, even among the world's renown scientists, atheists are very few! Majority are Christians l!

StillDtruth:
Philosophy that is full of lies.

Here’s a small list of renowned Christian scientists, both past and present, who have made significant contributions to various fields of science:

Past Renowned Christian Scientists:

1. Isaac Newton (1643–1727) - Physicist and mathematician, known for formulating the laws of motion and universal gravitation.

2. Johannes Kepler (1571–1630) - Astronomer, best known for his laws of planetary motion.

3. Blaise Pascal (1623–1662) - Mathematician, physicist, and inventor, known for Pascal's Theorem and contributions to probability theory.

4. Robert Boyle (1627–1691) - Chemist, physicist, and one of the founders of modern chemistry, known for Boyle’s Law.

5. Michael Faraday (1791–1867) - Physicist and chemist, known for his work in electromagnetism and electrochemistry.

6. Gregor Mendel (1822–1884) - Monk and geneticist, known as the father of modern genetics for his work on inheritance in pea plants.

7. James Clerk Maxwell (1831–1879) - Physicist, known for formulating the classical theory of electromagnetic radiation.

8. Georges Lemaître (1894–1966) - Priest and astrophysicist, proposed the Big Bang theory of the origin of the universe.

9. Louis Pasteur (1822–1895) - Chemist and microbiologist, known for his discoveries of vaccination, microbial fermentation, and pasteurization.

10. Lord Kelvin (William Thomson) (1824–1907)- Physicist and mathematician, known for his work on thermodynamics and the Kelvin scale.

Present Renowned Christian Scientists:

1. Francis Collins (1950–present) - Geneticist, leader of the Human Genome Project, and former director of the National Institutes of Health (NIH).

2. John Polkinghorne (1930–2021) - Physicist and Anglican priest, known for his work in theoretical physics and his writings on science and religion.

3. Jennifer Wiseman (1962–present)- Astrophysicist and Director of the Dialogue on Science, Ethics, and Religion at the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS).

4. Alister McGrath (1953–present) - Molecular biophysicist, theologian, and Christian apologist known for his work in the science-religion dialogue.

5. Joan Centrella - Astrophysicist known for her work on black holes and gravitational waves.

6. William D. Phillips (1948–present) - Physicist, Nobel laureate in Physics for his contributions to laser cooling.

7. John C. Lennox (1943–present) - Mathematician and philosopher of science, known for his debates on the relationship between science and religion.

These scientists have not only contributed significantly to their respective fields but have also explored the relationship between their faith and scientific work. This is contrary to what lying atheists would want us to believe. Sons of Satan looking for gullible souls to deceive!


Before you come up with another lie to say they became atheists as you have always done, let me tell you beforehand that among these renowned Christian scientists listed, none are widely recognized as having become atheists. All of them either maintained their Christian faith throughout their lives or were known for their efforts to reconcile science with their religious beliefs. And you lying atheist are not more scientific than them!

For instance:

Isaac Newton remained a deeply religious Christian, though his views diverged from orthodox Trinitarian Christianity.

Johannes Kepler was a devout Lutheran and later aligned with Reformed Christianity.
- **Michael Faraday** was a member of the Sandemanian church, a Christian sect.

Gregor Mendel was a Roman Catholic monk.

James Clerk Maxwell was a devout Christian, involved in the Anglican church.

Georges Lemaître was a Roman Catholic priest.

Louis Pasteur was a devout Catholic.

Francis Collins is an evangelical Christian and has written extensively on his faith.

John Polkinghorne was an ordained Anglican priest.

John C. Lennox is an outspoken Christian apologist.

These scientists are noted not just for their scientific achievements but also for their efforts to integrate their faith with their understanding of the natural world. Lying atheists in the mud.

Francistown, shame on you!

FRANCISTOWN:
You've not had a chat with 1% of the world's population so what are you on about?

I'm not interested in whether you believe my story or not but you can verify it by sleeping on a tomb in a cemetery overnight. How can I verify your friend's dream for myself?

Go and sleep on a tomb and do video coverage of yourself if you want anyone to take you serious. For now, no evidence. Everything you've been saying are all lies. And it's actually a sign of an apparent lack of understanding for you to think that you must see a ghost each time you sleep in a cemetery. You are actually a liar but your lies are even more glaring, and your intentions exposed because no one told you that these things happen all the time. Go watch CBS Reality on DSTV. Sometimes they show these things and other weird phenomenon on live camera. Stop lying and pretending you're speaking the truth! I don't need to interact with the world's one percent to know what the majority have experienced about a phenomenon.

jaephoenix:
Exactly. Since u have no explanations or comebacks, u resort to insults. Ignorance is really a problem for theists, and our educational system has bred illiterate literate like you

Go and sit down! If you cannot engage maturely in debates without insulting people, get off my mentions. I don't debate with retards.

FRANCISTOWN:
The dream you claimed your friend had cannot even be verified so I won't stress myself on that❌❌❌❌❌❌

@the emboldened, you didn't tell me you've met and has a chart with everyone on this planet.
What a very interesting story.

I'm old enough to have met a whole lot of people in my life. Atheists live only on Nairaland and in movies. You can't verify my friend's dream just as your fake story is unverifiable.

jaephoenix:
All those 'spiritual' experiences are mindfucks. It a really difficult explaining science to retarded Christians.
About your friend's experience. Lets assume its true. Do you know our minds dwell on issues that is of utmost importance . For example, your mind can be on a business deal, exam etc and whenever you r asleep, your subconscious examines aspects of that experience and either speculates on it or scares you. Most of them are false. A tiny bit may be true.
Lemme give example. You may have an upcoming wedding, and then dream that police would disperse it. Of course, it would turn out alright. What would you say about it? Would you still call it spiritual?
Same experience is deja vu. I know u have a one track mind. But this post is for others that can actually think, not specifically for u

Retarded atheist, get off my mentions okay?

jaephoenix:
Those experiences are mind-created. Your mind can put stuff in it and project it to your frontal lobes as real, like a dream. There are drugs I can give you and you'll hallucinate like mad and swear those images are real. Do a lil research.

You think you are talking to kids? You lying atheist!! I have spiritual experiences on a daily. The most recent one was that myself and a friend filled some forms for something we were supposed to do with the Federal government. We omitted a critical aspect of a form without knowing. My friend had a dream in which someone was telling him that he we missed something on the forms, and that we should re-check. When he told me the dream, I argued that we did everything perfectly and that there was no error in our forms but since they're still with us, there's no harm in going through it again if he insists. We went through the forms and discovered that we actually didn't fill a particular important section of the forms. I cannot even understand how we made such an error. Though there were so many forms to fill, so probably we ommitted it by reason of the intermittent distractions we had while we were doing the filling. We thought we had done a perfect job because we went through each form before laying it aside. Thank God for that dream my friend had. That's a spiritual experience that had saved us from making a very big mistake.

FRANCISTOWN:
If others experiences don't agree with general concepts and the principles of nature then others must be hallucinating or deranged.

I hope you know that it's your own experiences that do not agree with the general experiences of people? And what are we even saying? You all are liars because you're simply on a deliberate attempt to deceive. There's no human being in the world who has not had one spiritual experience or the other. All your denials are an attempt to deceive because you are on a mission for a master. I have never met an adult who claims he has never had a spiritual experience in his life except on Nairaland.

FRANCISTOWN:
Some years ago I had a job to do at Ijebu-ode, Ogun State. It was at a small village called Ita-marun or so, I can't really remember.
But I knew I was coming back very late around 12AM from Ita-Marun to Odosela or so, and I couldn't get any vehicle to convey me from Ita-Marun to Ogidi. So I had to treck from one place like that while heading for the junction. I was mad thirsty and hungry so I had to drink from one river like that and by the time I got to the junction and was now heading for Odosela. I became very tired, at that time my eyesight was becoming blurry, so, thankfully enough, I saw something that looked like a pavement.
Since I was mad tired, I decided to take a rest. So, I sat on the pavement. It should be around 1AM then.
It was in the morning when I woke that I realized that I slept at a graveyard. And my legs were resting on a tomb. Ha! What is this? I exclaimed. Lol!

Now that I think about it. How come ghosts didn't attack me at night, despite that I was alone in their territory and It was pitch dark?
Simple. Ghosts don't exist.
There is no such thing as demon.
Devil doesn't exist.
Generation curses don't exist.
There is nothing like the living dead.

I drank from a river around 12AM and nothing happened to me. There are no marine spirits anywhere.
There is no spirit husband or spirit wife.
There are no spirits to begin with.
No Ekwensu is after your life.

There is no spirit and spiritual world.
Stop jumping from pillar to post. Nobody is doing you. Stop all these nonsense night vigils, have yourself a better sleep. Nobody is pressing you at night.

No demon is having sex with you during your sleep. You must have touched your genitals without knowing.
I've been able to demystify every spirituality.

Ask me any question and I'll answer you.
I'll leave you with this.

The true things of life are the things you can see, but the false things of life are the things you want to see

That was your own experience. Others have experiences that are different from yours, and they cannot abandon their personal experiences to embrace yours. Don't shove your experience on anyone's throat by giving faulty advices and drawing unreliable conclusions.

achorladey:
Many problems we all encounter in daily life regarding business

I tell you my brother.

achorladey:
He is calling you a blackmailer to project his ways on you.

You see how he is fighting tooth and nail to drag you into his dirty ways of dealing with people

Tor. His dirty ways... hmm.

achorladey:
You get time to tell sey you won't mention him. Na im dey give me airtime for phone I used to access nairaland?

You know he used the Words of Jesus where He said we should dust our shoes against those who reject us. So, I'm obeying Jesus. Not him.

achorladey:
He knows people like us don't dance to the lies and manipulations packed into his madness and insanities peddling brains. That's why he must run as always.

The mistake I made was that I used this Moniker for business in the past. At that time I didn't know that there were many imb*ciles on Nairaland. You'll create a thread to do honest business. Someone would jump on it from nowhere to call you names. Then a mischievous fellow would pick it up from there and use it against you.

achorladey:
He has carried the problem of Talktalk2034 on his head now and peddling madness and insanities of his brains over a matter not his

I've told him that I won't mention him again. I already did my best for the dude. His blood is upon his own head. But if he brings mischief against me, my retaliation would be brutal. He'll abandon his moniker once I'm done with him. He should just respect himself.

AntiChristian:
Of what use is the symbol O Christian liar?

Dey lie dey go o!

Muslim liar and blackmailer, are the symbols that of Islam? Yes or No?

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ OK is not what i'm expecting from you.

Say it loud that you are not going to mention MaxInDhouse again on this forum let everyone know not just typing OK and in the next two weeks you will start mentioning my name again.

I don't bloody care if you want it to continue because i will continue to follow you from thread to thread posting the blackmail before you start typing rubbish claiming you're preaching one useless god that you don't even regard.

So type it here clear for everyone to see that you are no longer mentioning MaxInDhouse again i won't take that nonsense from you anymore.

The last time it's the same OK you typed now you're lying that you APOLOGIZE to me abeg type am bold make everyone know say you no go mention MaxInDhouse again.

And i will never ever mention you lailai as long as you stick to your word!

If you post blackmail, I'll post blackmail too. Just know it.

I've said I won't mention you but if you do mischievously, I too will retaliate. Just know that.

MaxInDHouse:
Wahala dey after the death of Abiola.

If you are talking about Jehovah's Witnesses as you like it's OK call the organization anything you want i'm cool but mentioning me as if i owe you any explanation regarding my beliefs is irritating because you don't worth it!

You actually don't worth been mentioned. Everyone knows you're a liar, mischief maker, blackmailer and all that. Yet, I choose to mention you only because I don't want you to perish.

Why did you mention me again after I said ''Okay. No problem.' And I refused to reply your second mention because I already said okay to your request. Yet, you still came mentioning me again. Look, if you mention me again, it will be the beginning of another wave of mentions. Hope you understand?

AntiChristian:
No they are not! We don't have any symbols from the Qur'an and Sunnah!



It does matter as we only obey Allah and the Prophet He sent! Anything not traceable to the Qur'an and Sunnah is thrash!

So your premise has fall yakata!

Bring another lie as usual!

You only obey Allah, yet you have these symbols everywhere! Dey play!

MaxInDHouse:
If you can just do that and stop mentioning me at least Jesus said you should shake off the dust of your feet at the DOOR of the person who rejects your message so OBEY JESUS and STOP MENTIONING ME!

Okay. No problem.

oteneaaron:
Look at this LYING old man.

Who are you calling a PIMO?

Where is your evidence that I am still attending JW meetings?

Moreso, you're here complaining about FxMasterz mentioning you, but for the past 2 weeks you have been mentioning me on countless threads.

Why are you such a hypocrite?

You don't want others to mention you but you feel like you have the right to mention others right?

Pathetic.

Don't mind him. He wants to keep spreading lies but doesn't want anyone to tell him the truth. He has been lying against me since, calling me a Blackmailer after I have even apologized to the person he claimed I blackmailed. The person was the first to attack me, I only responded in self defense, yet I apologized, the person didn't. He knew of the apology but chose to lie against me who was the actual person that was wronged. This confirms that he's truly a LIAR. Achorladey too has called him out for being a LIAR but he wants to paint me in black to look like himself. Persecuting me because I'm preaching the word of God to him.

AntiChristian:
Show us where Allah authorised the symbols in our scriptures Mr Christian liar? We have the Qur'an and the Sunnah as our texts!

You didn't bring the Christian website you got the lie from?

It's your acts! Everyone here can see your true colors! You lie brazenly and you'll still form saint and blackmail others!

Something is known to be Islam's symbols but it is not established anywhere in our scripture!

What exists authentically in our scripture you call it a lie!
What does not exist in our scripture you uphold it as the truth!

Is this not a form of falsehood and blackmail?

This surely confirms you as a liar and a blackmailer!
What MaxinDhouse was saying about you and Talktalk2022 must be the truth as you are a incorrigible liar!

My God!

Are the symbols Islam's symbols? Yes or No!

It doesn't matter whether they're in your books or not. Are they islam's symbols? Yes or No!

MaxInDHouse:
LIAR!

AntiChrist!

Did Jesus tell you to continue pestering others when they tell you they're not interested in what you're saying?

Why not preach your god to your friends like achorladey, oteneaaron, Courz, Templee333, Sand2023 and other JW PIMOS?

They're no longer interested in the worship going on in our Kingdom Halls yet they remain there but you refused to preach your God to them so that they can leave the religion they're calling CULT.

So ọmọ you're a BLACKMAILER and SLANDERER not a believer in Christ because that is not what he commanded his disciples!

Okay, I'm only being merciful and loving towards you. Indeed Christ said I should put off my shoes and shake the dust of it against you for rejecting the word of God. But He added that "it will be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorah on the day of judgement than for that city." I don't want that for you, that's why I keep pestering you. But if you say that's what you want (a judgement more serious than that of Sodom and Gomorah), I'll gladly leave you alone.