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achorladey:
We know the fruit they bear when money is involved too

Just ask the Norwegian government

True true. Dem GB come pocket people money for Norway. The government come comot them sharp sharp. Dem no get shame sef.

MaxInDHouse:
Now it's obvious that you're not just blind spiritually speaking but PHYSICALLY blind!

"Crowd" you say!

But the scriptures called them "his disciples"

In reply he (Jesus) said to the one who spoke to him: “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” And extending his hand toward his disciples, he said: “Look! My mother and my brothers! For whoever does the will of my Father who is in heaven, that one is my brother and sister and mother.” Matthew 12:48-50

Hehehe, so his disciples were a group or congregation?

"Whoever does the will of my Father who is in heaven, that one is my brother and sister and mother."

Does the above look like a group or congregation to you? The only congregation in that place was the crowd- the multitudes.

MaxInDHouse:
It's ignorance coupled with insincerity that's blurring your senses!

In the first there were lots of speculations among the Jews about the coming of the Christ and lots of people were concerned about where is the Christ.

•Astrologers from the east started creating fear in the mind of the Jewish king Herod the Great.

•Mary got pregnant without sex, Elizabeth saw sign from the baby in her womb.

•Zachariah spoke with angel Gabriel.

•After Jesus' birth two prophets male and female spoke about the baby being the one who will deliver Israel.

•At 12 years old Jesus proved to be a unique child in the temple.

•John the baptist began crying in the wilderness for the Jews to prepare the way for the Christ.

•John the baptist baptized Jesus of Nazareth and heard God's voice confirming Jesus as the Christ.

•Jesus began preaching, teaching, healing and curing all manner of diseases.

•His disciples noticed so many prophecies being fulfilled in his ministry.

All these events didn't happen in just one day.

So imagine a Jew trying to wrap all these in his head only to find out that there is no deliverance from Roman oppression and Jesus was killed and that's all nothing happened to their oppressors.

Do you think such a Jew can ever agree with you that the Christ whom the scriptures talked about has come?

Ọmọ the presence of the Christ in the first century didn't just occur suddenly for everyone to grasp what really happened it was a gradual thing that his faithful disciples worked really hard to solve comparing all that happened with what the scriptures said.

So if you're thinking what God's people said in the 19th and 20th century about the return of a mighty Spirit King is a lie then go and figure out the organization that's practicing what Jesus taught in your own time or perhaps dismissed the idea that Jesus never existed at all.

The ball is in your court!

There's no scripture that says any mighty spirit King will come to earth. The only One promised is the Holy Spirit, and He is already here with us.

Go and sit down.

MaxInDHouse:
So Adam is God shey? Luke 3:38

Chai!

Another show of spiritual bankruptcy. If Adam is God, wouldn't all human race be Gods?

Was Adam begotten or created? If you can answer that question sincerely, then you'll know whether Adam was God or not.

John 3:16 tells us why Jesus is different from Adam:

"For God so loved the world, that he gave His ONLY BEGOTTEN Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ the Greek word simply means "OBEY" if you can't use your brain i will teach you how to use it.
Jesus said to one of his disciples:

“Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’ John 20:17

Only one person deserves to be worship that's Jehovah {Deuteronomy 6:4 compare to Mark 12:29} not Jesus!

Using just one verse of Scripture to misrepresent all other numerous scriptures is the foundation for falsehood. Jesus is God's Son and is therefore God. If your father is a man, won't you be a man?

MaxInDHouse:
Just as you can't differentiate falsehood from truth and oteneaaron, achorladey, Templee33, wumiwumi, Sand2022 are all Christians to you yet they're not attending meetings with any congregation of God! Hebrews 10:24-25

You should talk about yourself. Those who prophesied failed coming of Jesus in 1874, 1878 and 1914 and later went on to lie that Christ has come as a mighty spirit King are all christians to you? You can't see any falsehood in that? SMH.

MaxInDHouse:
His fellow believers nah àbí you're blind to see that he was introducing his fellow believers? Matthew 12:46-50

Chai!!!

So that crowd are the people who hear the Word of God and do it?

Apparent lack of spiritual understanding.

MaxInDHouse:
Faithless miscreants everywhere.

Did Jesus present his congregation or not? Matthew 12:46-50

Deceived JW. Which congregation did Jesus present?

MaxInDHouse:
You mean people killing people due to politics and racism shey?

The thing is that blind people can't differentiate black from white. To them everything is black.

MaxInDHouse:
You're welcome to continue deceiving yourself with misinterpretation of the greek texts.
God never told anyone to worship Jesus what He said is OBEY him.
But your misinformed translators turned the word OBEY to worship since you people are rebellious and whenever you obey instructions you feel you're worshiping the person to whom you're obedient!

Hehehe! The deception they've been dishing out to you is deep rooted, and you have failed to make your own research. I pity your soul. Look at Greek Interlinear attached.

MaxInDHouse:
After all the so called appearance of your Jesus what FRUIT have those seeing it produced?

Look around you my dear. Read relevant books and research genuine christians without biases. Your eyes will open.

MaxInDHouse:
YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! To all your questions!
If you're not ready to use your brain i will teach you how to make use of it.


See who is talking about spiritual bankruptcy yet you can't present any congregation of your fellow believers you're just going to different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming they're following Jesus!

You're just a gullible Muslim. Always asking for congregation as if Christianity is all about congregations. SMH. The deceit you're wallowing in is monumental.

MaxInDHouse:
Do you think Jehovah's Witnesses are like you misinformed churchgoers worshiping what you don't know?

Ọmọ Jesus in his prehuman existence is the Archangel Michael but we are worshipers of Jehovah the God of Jesus not Jesus himself.

Do you get it now?

Laughing at the bolded.

That's hysterical enough.

Hebrews 1:6

"And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, He says, “Let all God’s angels worship Him.”

Revelation 5:13
"Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all that is in them, saying: “To Him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be praise and honor and glory and power, for ever and ever!”

I'm sure you would ignore the Scriptures above and cling firmly to the words of your Deceivers.

MaxInDHouse:
That's exactly what you're saying now if you don't believe what Jesus said about his future disciples.
What the scriptures say about the Christ is the things Jesus' disciples stick to which helped them to IDENTIFY him as the Christ.
Today you and all your faithless friends aren't believers if you're criticizing Jehovah's Witnesses the one and only organization that's PRACTICING what Jesus taught!

So, Jesus said the future disciples would prophecy that He is coming at a particular date? Did Jesus also prophecy that He'll return as a mighty spirit King? Did He also prophecy that future disciples would call Him Angel Michael? Did He also say that future disciples would be failing in doctrines and changing their doctrines like clothes? Did He prophecy that He'll start reigning in 1914?

How can you be so spiritually bankrupt to accept all these bullshit?

MaxInDHouse:
Demons appearing to you people isn't Jesus so stop deceiving yourself. 2Corinthians 11:14

"By their fruits, you'll know them."

achorladey:


You see him asking you to guard your heart. Guarding your hearts from the lies and manipulations packed into his madness and insanities peddling brains.

Na wá for him. He even thinks I hate him and his organization. How I wish he would have an encounter with Jesus.

MaxInDHouse:
The Bible was written by Jesus' disciples that's why critics today will tell you that Jesus never existed at all because no reputable Jewish historian in his time pen down anything about his life or activities. First century Jew in their millions back then rejected him and whatever his disciples wrote about him and that's what 98% of their descendants till today believe that Jesus was fake!
https://www.youtube.com/live/Za5L5G08A8g?si=aQTkO-2prMI9TbkQ

Again, are you saying the Bible lied?

MaxInDHouse:
Your friends are deceiving you but you're also a deceitful person yourself {2Timothy 3:13} so there's no way to help you.



• achorladey
• rottennaija
• Templee33
• oteneaaron
• wumiwumi
• Hairyranpunzel
• RussellRutherfo
• Sand2022
I will continue to add when i catch them.
Check any of them and see if they have been preaching about Jesus at all on this forum, all what they can think of are the last things they got from Jehovah's Witnesses organization and the WORSTEST thing about them is that they can't worship anywhere else rather they're still attending meetings with Jehovah's Witnesses following all our updates despite saying that we are worshiping the devil.
Ọmọ i know you hate us so much

Coming from someone who worships angel Michael. Someone whose organization prophecies Jesus' second coming in blatant disregard for the Word of God. Someone who believes in his GB more than he believes the Bible. Someone whose organization says Jesus started reigning in 1914. An organization that blatantly goes against the Scriptures to establish their own ideologies. They even said Jesus had returned in 1914 and started reigning as a mighty spirit King. What nonsense? Olaadegbu has answered you that you're not a Christian. You're just in disguise to sow discord among the saints. He is right, because I don't know why you rejoice in your assumed disunity among the children of God.

If you think I hate you, you're deceiving yourself or some demons are blocking you from perceiving the truth. By showing you from the Scriptures that your ideologies and beliefs are contrary to the Word of God, I am not exhibiting hatred but love. I'm showing you the truth so that you can save your soul while you still have the opportunity. I don't hate you. I love you with the love of Christ.

Since he was rubbished during the Beta Edu saga, he has mellowed. It seems he has lost both his voice and his impetus.

achorladey:
Looool, Jesus selected false prophets as his representatives

Impossible!

MaxInDHouse:
So how come only 2% of Jews today agreed that Jesus was a prophet?

Are you saying the Bible lied?

MaxInDHouse:
The Beroeans checked the scriptures to figure out if what the Christians said about their leader is true so if you want to behave like the Beroeans you should figure out the true religion not just going about calling everything false!

We've checked you out. You're as fake as your fake prophecies of Christ's coming.

achorladey:
Starting from the fact that they said Jesus selected them in 1919 while as at that time they were still peddling false doctrines up till today

False doctrines including false prophecies.

MaxInDHouse:
The claim that the Christ has come can also be refuted by Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and other Jewish Rabbis since all of them had the scriptures back then and quoting from it.
So if Jesus' name or that of his disciples never appeared in the OT the Beroeans will take their time to study the scriptures thoroughly in order to ascertain if the young man from Nazareth and his disciples truly fulfilled many of the things written in the scriptures regarding the presence of the Christ in Israel.

Lol. Why do you like doing back and forth?

We're talking about your claims of your leaders being Christ's representatives!

We're like the Bereans today. We tested you with scriptures and you failed woefully.

MaxInDHouse:
You don't know what you're saying.
Go and face a Jewish Judaist and tell him when and where Jesus' name was endorsed or announced in the scriptures (OT) as the Christ.

In fact they will beat you up like anything if you can't point out that name from Genesis to Malachi, you think because his disciples have played their part in recognizing his as the Christ that makes you a believer?

Ọmọ whatever the disciples of Christ wrote in the (NT) is not for anyone today to believe that Jesus is the Christ anymore they have fought and won that battle, their writings is for you and i to IDENTIFY the GROUP following their footsteps today not about identifying the Christ again.

My dear, the fact that many Priests, Scribes and Jews came to believe in Jesus even when He was still on earth makes your argument invalid. Look for another thing to say.

John 7:31
"Many among the crowds at the Temple believed in him. “After all,” they said, “would you expect the Messiah to do more miraculous signs than this man has done?”

Acts 6:7-11
"Then the word of God spread, and the number of the disciples multiplied greatly in Jerusalem, and a great many of the priests were obedient to the faith. And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and signs among the people."

achorladey:
He said they are his representatives

They are not on the same pedestal with Jesus Christ

He can choose to bow down to them and be used as doormat it will not change that they and Jesus are not on same pedestal

He should tell us when and where Christ endorsed or announced them as His representatives.

MaxInDHouse:
So if Jesus' name wasn't found written in the OT and you're here questioning the authenticity of his reps that their names weren't written in the scriptures then see yourself as a potential unbelieving Jew criticizing and persecuting Jesus' disciples in the first century because the first question they will ask is:
"What name did the scriptures say the Messiah who is to be born by a virgin would be called?"
Note that the name was Emmanuel not Jesus. Isaiah 7:14
Then they will ask you "what is the name of the man you called the Messiah?"
If you should say "Jesus" it's a heavy slap you will receive in your cheek because to them you are LYING!

Ọmọ duty calls i've got business to do now so i may not be able to continue responding quickly to your post because i want to connect my business associates online.

See you later!

You were the one who actually said the scriptures spoke about them. However, the scripture never said anyone follower of Christ will be a JW, worshipper of angel Michael or mentioned names. The claims you have can also be made by the Catholics and any other church. All churches have a congregation with leaders over them who feed them with the Word of God.

MaxInDHouse:
Funny churchian.

Was Jesus' name written in the scriptures (OT) his disciples were quoting to prove that he is the Christ?

His birthplace and nature of conception singled Him out.

MaxInDHouse:
They are his representatives today! Matthew 24:45[/b]

Jesus said it will mean destruction for whoever fails to RECOGNIZE them and assist them in the time of the end when they will need the support of millions in doing the work Jesus assigned to them! Matthew 25:34-46

I'm sure you will find it difficult to understand but that's your problem not mine since you're not interested in knowing the group Jesus is using in the time of the end to gather his subjects throughout the earth!

Where were their names written in the scripture you quoted?

MaxInDHouse:
I know my comments are really impressive just as your cohort achorladey and the rest knew but you guys won't admit rather you will continue to console yourselves in deception.
Well if you're sure i'm holding the words of men higher than that of God why not continue in holding the word of God higher than that of men nah? No wahala, Christians in the first century were also accused of holding the word of a man (Jesus) in higher esteem than the word of God yet the accusers won't allow them breath it's like their lives evolves around whatever the Christians say just as you and your cohorts are doing on this forum!

So from the bolded, your GBs can be placed on the same pedestal with Jesus?

achorladey:
This particular one just want to impress us as being a worst fool based on his own words from his lying and manipulated brains

You're talking about someone who holds the words of men in higher esteem than the Word of God. I have accused him of that in previous mentions. He didn't deny it but rather he defended it.

achorladey:
Madness and insanities peddling brains asked, who is a believer?

Answer from the same madness and insanities peddling brains said....



FxMasterz come and see more madness and insanities peddling.

My brother, these people aren't Christians. They're agents.