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MaxInDHouse:
These are the questions i personally asked the JWs before i finally submitted that it's 1914 that Jesus began ruling in heaven.
You can't isolate matters without considering what happened in the first century, John the baptist has raised the hope of many Jews telling them that the Messiah is coming to fulfill all what the scriptures said about him not knowing that the Messiah will not fulfill all so by the time he was arrested and imprisoned he expected Jesus to start ruling so the Christ can come to release him in prison but he was confused as Jesus wasn't doing as he expected that's why he sent his disciples to go and ask Jesus if he's the Christ or they should be expecting another person! Matthew 11:2-3

Does that wrong expectation make John the baptist less a prophet of God?

Jesus answered that John is the greatest of all the prophets who ever lived before his time.

So if JWs had a wrong expectation about what the Christ will do when he returns but later got to understand that he's not yet here to take over the world government just as his disciples also had wrong expectation in the first century! Act 1:6-8

What makes you think they are false?

I think I addressed this issue of equating the errors of John the Baptist with the JW false prophecies before. I wouldn't want to go into that anymore but I'll remind you in case you've forgotten.

John the Baptist was justifiably expecting Christ to start reigning in Jerusalem in his time because the Bible did not clearly separate the coming of Jesus into 2 different comings. Jesus had to explain in details to His disciples. By virtue of the explanations Jesus gave his disciples, no Christian should be making the blunder that John made. Anyone who does that, blatantly sets aside Jesus' explanation in a bid to work deceitfully. For example, I'm so clear about what Jesus said to the extent that even if someone makes a prophecy that Jesus would come at any specified date in our future, I wouldn't believe the person even if he spits fire as he speaks. That's clearly a false prophet. A deceiver. The knowledge we have of these things as Christians clearly forbids timing the second coming. All prophecies about the second coming of Christ at any specified date is a false prophecy.

But actually, this isn't the question I had wanted you to address. I wanted you to explain why you believe someone who fails to accurately calculate the fulfilment of a physical and verifiable event when such a person tells you about an unverifiable event such as Jesus ruling in heaven. If he failed in what is verifiable, can he be trusted in what is not verifiable?

Jesus' ruling in heaven is not even the Christians should be discussing because He has always been ruling. He didn't start in 1914. "He is seated on the right hand of majesty on high" Read Hebrews 1:1-3. Stephen saw Him seated at the right hand of God in Acts 7. He Himself had told Pilate, "My kingdom is not not of this world. If my kingdom was of this world, then would my servants fight " He clearly already had a kingdom. He didn't tell Pilate "My kingdom will not be of this world." Which would have made it a future kingdom. But He said "My kingdom is not of this world." Meaning, 'I actually have a kingdom which is not of this world. And I have servants too who can fight.' So, Jesus didn't start ruling in 1914. He was always a Ruler before He came to earth. Infact He left His throne above to come attend to the matter of man's separation from God.

Ephesus 1:19-24 tells us about Christ's rulership:

"And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of His mighty power, Which He wrought in Christ, when He raised him from the dead, and set Him at His own right hand in the heavenly place, Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,"

Look very well into the above scripture and see why the 1914 claim is so heretical.

MaxInDHouse:
When i told you that you're making friends with MAD people you say i'm insulting them, why not ask them to speak for themselves if they have been worshiping with any other church as Christians or they're still associating with JWs? Psalms 1:1

I was born a Muslim and i left the religion after discovering many wrong things but your friends proudly are calls themselves JW PIMO meaning they are PHYSICALLY IN with jw org but MENTALLY OUT of the organization.

Is that not MADNESS!

It's not madness. Don't you know the definition of madness again?

Freedom is in stages. Once light comes, it is followed by gradual detachment from darkness until total detachment happens. The work first begins in the mind over a period of time before a final decision is made. That was how you left Islam too. It was a gradual process. No one called you mad because of that. Calling them mad is absolutely wrong. It's a normal human way of responding to new discoveries after being used to a system for too long. You still have the time to convince them they're wrong if you have anything to offer. But you've done more damage to their stand regarding your organization than good.

Ohyoudidnt:
Fortunately you have a mind of your own. Make your own research and don't follow the ignorant whims of another that has an erroneous quarrel with himself about the truth.

The Quran is the central religious text of Islam and contains guidance for all aspects of life. It does not specifically mention the legend of Alexandra. It is important to focus on the teachings and guidance provided in the Quran and the authentic Hadiths when seeking knowledge about Islam.

Were you told Psalm 16:10 is in the Quran and you believe it without verifying?

But is Alexander the Great not truly a prophet in Islam?

I do not doubt that it's there. I researched it and found it. I think it's Zabur 3:5 or something.

Look at something else I found. Can you explain the screenshot?

TenQ:
It is amazing that Allah who directly chose NOT to speak to Mohammed decided to directly speak to Alexander the Great.

So , we see prophet Alexander PBUH being shown where the sun sets in some dark murky waters. Even Moses wasn't given such a privilege

Lol. Prophet Alexander. This is very hilarious. The same Alexander the Great is a prophet of Islam? Or another Alexander?

I found this online just now. The truth about Islam is really coming out.

MaxInDHouse:
Let them prove me a liar by leaving the organization if they're sure it's a cult nah!

I don't think they're still there. I'm not sure anyway but from the way they address JW matters here, I don't think they're still in the organization.

MaxInDHouse:
You're still deceiving yourself!

To millions of Jehovah's Witnesses 1914 is the year Jesus began ruling in heaven so if they're not sure then there's no need arguing or worrying themselves instead of worshiping with the erring organization any fearless person will leave and join a better performing church.
It's madness claiming you're worshiping with pagans and satanists if you're sure that they are Satanists!

How are you so sure that Jesus started ruling in heaven in 1914? Is there a time Jesus was not ruling in heaven? You guys have so many things muddled up.

If you claimed Jesus would come in 1914 and he didn't come as you prophesied, what confidence do you have regarding something happening in heaven which you cannot see. Do you know how many times your organization has prophesied Jesus' coming with each prophecy failing woefully?

TenQ:
Mohammed never read the Torah not the Psalms nor the Injeel. However, he heard stories from many of his slaves some of them who were Christians and some of the stories he put in the Qur'an are from the Jews and other far away legends like the legend of Alexander the Great or the Legend of the seven sleepers. Anything he thought was interesting was put in the Quran in form of SAJA

It was said that many of the poets in Mohammed's time made fun of him because his Saja wasn't good. SAJA was the style of literatures Poets used in presenting their songs (more like Rap Music). Mohammed latter banned any arabs from using Saja poetry so that the Qur'an remains the only surviving Saja compilation of the Arabs.

Some people insinuate that the bulk of the Quran was initially a hymn to Christ (in one of the Syriac languages)which was later modified piece by piece to become the Qur'an;in Arabic. They insinuate that this is why some parts of the Qur'an is actually meaningless unless one look at it from the Syriac languages.

These are still too deep for me so that I keep my fingers crossed and deal with the one I know.

You know really much bro. So, the legend of Alexandra is also in the Quran? It was Allah who revealed that too?

TenQ:
I prefer to leave this to the experts of both Arabic and Tools of analysis of ancient texts and scriptures.

For now, the Qur'an, Hadiths, Tafsirs and other Islamic documents are doing great work of destroying Islam for me.

I learnt that the very Psalm that spoke about the the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ is plainly written in the Quran as one of the Zabur of David:

"For you will not leave my soul among the dead or allow your holy one to rot in the grave." Psalm 16:10.

Meanwhile, being oblivious of this prophecy which Mohammed evidently copied from the. Bible without knowing what he was copying, he went and contradicted the same prophecy, saying Christ never died.

achorladey:
One line of thought na fraud. I told him in his kingdom halls he will climb the platform and discouraged talking with apostates then come down immediately himself and log into apostate websites.

Lol. Do as I say but don't do as I do.

achorladey:
That's what Aemmyjah was trying to do stylishly. That one knows there are many things he is dropping here that don't agree with their beliefs. You can see he categorically told Aemmyjah that the thread belongs to him, he won't stop responding responding to us

The bolded. Lolz. This is so hilarious.

achorladey:
Ask am ooooo. I said that thread will haunt him in the future. Here we are today referencing what happened three years ago

Hmmm!! I think he should now believe in prophecy.

MaxInDHouse:
OK you're just trolling now as usual, right?

Continue deceiving yourself boy.

These guys call themselves (JW PIMO) meaning they are PHYSICALLY IN with jw.org but they are MENTALLY OUT.

Even in Nigeria where millions are mentally out of the country any opportunity to leave they will seize it in fact selling everything they own here just to get out of Nigeria but here we have people who are claiming they are physically in a religion but mentally out of that religion.
Abeg are there no other religion around them?

Ask him the question:

Mr A are you worshiping the same GOD with Watchtower organization today?

If not why are you not worshiping elsewhere?

let him answer if he's not MAAAAAAAD!

But the things they say about your organization are true. For example, the 1914 lie about Jesus reigning since that year is one of the most hilarious lies anyone could tell.

Emusan:
And he forgot that no matter how many times you repeat a lie, it can never become truth.

You don't know Maxindhouse bro. His lies have become truth to him. That's why he would call you a liar when you're exposing his lies. Those his lies are his truths.

TenQ:
Most of the Ancient Islamic Books seems all to originated not from Mecca or Medina but in Baghdad and the northern kingdoms North above Saudi Arabia.
My issue is the tonnes of hadiths they have for Mohammed.
For now, we keep our fingers crossed until they come out with something beyond any argument

Hmm. This would be a very interesting kind of research to embark on.

Emusan:
You hit the nail on the head.

The only person I know who tried to be different is Dappad by moniker, he uses to correct him sometimes.

You can even see how he raise eyes for that one doing boi boi following him.

You can see that he has started responding back on this thread.

That is who he is!

Wow. I don't know that Dappad but that's commendable of him.

TenQ:
This the research Jay Smith and Al-Fadi have been doing for some years now.

Mohammed seems to be a superimposition of a fictional Mohammed with a Real Mohammed based on a gnostic Christian offshoot

Check on YouTube for some of their submissions

Thank you. I'll research deeper on this. The fact is that if Mecca indeed was not in existence as at the purported times of Mohammed's life, then something is really fishy.

achorladey:
When Johnw47 say that madness and insanities peddling brains he is an accuser like the devil. You see why he has a solid point. . He was accusing, abusing, insulting me over a question that I answered. He even lied that I didn't answer. Attributes and machinations of the devil

The whole essence of that discussion was that those who worshipped same God cannot criticise one another. I said that is a big fat lie. Worshipping the same God is not a criteria not to criticise one another. All he was doing that time was to stop me from criticizing his religious organization.

So in his quest to advance his madness and insanities peddling. He asked my am I worshipping the same God that Jehovah's witnesses worship? I responded by telling him that I worship the same God Moses described in Exodus 3:15. Up till today he is yet to tell me if he worship that same God too knowing that it will render his point that those worshipping same God cannot criticize one another

Maxindhouse, why did you lie that Achorladey didn't answer your question? Another proof of your lying ways.

He can't answer the question because by answering either yes or no, he'll shoot himself in the foot.

achorladey:
FxMasterz this is for you, read through and see the part highlighted

How did he know I am worshipping the same God with Jehovah's witnesses and yet antagonising them in that question? That tells you I gave a response that expose the madness and insanities peddling of his brains.

See him say I am also another moniker called falseprophet

Look at the options I provided in my questions, how did I know he said NO while my response is YES regarding worshipping same God or not

He is a case here on Nairaland and he himself knows it but deliberately lives in self denial. I'm sure his fellow JW brothers wake up each day in fear of what other blunder Maxindhouse will make in the day on their behalves.

He makes blunders on top of their heads and they're always compelled to defend their organization by not exposing their 'Blunderer' brother. I'm sure if they can meet him face to face, they'll tell him to stop shaming them with his bludering comments.

MaxInDHouse:
Now you're scared to quote me shey?

Well i won't respond to your friend but if you are ready to learn i will respond to your questions.

Why should I be scared to quote you? Do you want me to be scared? You are proud to scare people too?

achorladey:
FxMasterz you see his latest response now is to jump away from you and back to Achorladey as point of discussion .

Asking you whether I am mad. His own words judge him already to be a worst fool when he said Achorladey = Emusan . Enough evidence of the madness and insanities contained in his brains peddling lies and manipulations about people here and there

He enjoys his lies so much. He wouldn't be fulfilled if he has not told one lie before a day runs out.

Emusan:
That's to show you, something is wrong somewhere with him.

That's true, or how can a human being be positive and negative about the same matter at the same time? And this type of speaking is too rampant with him.

TenQ:
It is amazing how a religion will be based purely on lies and deceptions. Even the local African Traditional Religion or the Eastern Religions are not filled with this much lies.

But
[b ]Because Islam was designed specifically against the Christian Faith, it has to first create legitimacy by climbing on the Ladder of the Religion of the Jews and Christians and then recreating a new fabricated Religion just to prevent salvation in Christ Jesus and destroy Christians of little knowledge.[/b]

Everything is looking like Mohammed himself was a fabricated identity based on one of the earliest adherents of the religion of Islam. Till now, there is no archeological discovery pointing to the existence of Mecca or Medina on or before the 7th century.

Infact the local African traditions don't tell lies about their religion. Those ones are just ignorant. But Islam is deliberate lies that must be defended with the sword.

The bolded is the real fact. Islam was created by Satan to fight against the salvation that Jesus brought.

I'll like to know more about the possible fabrication of mohammed. How did you arrive at this?

MaxInDHouse:
Do you also claim that you're a Christian with the below?
As you LIED publicly against a Nairalander and said he stole your money 200k.



These and many more are the things you people do to BASTARDIZE that group name yet claiming you're following Christ.

No member of JW will ever claim someone stole his money when they never had anything to do together involving money.

So if anyone lied against us we just laugh it off!

The difference between you and I is fully captured below. You really have bastardized your cult. Let everyone judge between you and I.

TenQ:
Indeed Jesus said it all:
Humans prefer DARKNESS to LIGHT because of the works of their hands.


Thank God for the gift of the Internet: all the hidden truths about Islam are getting broadcast by Muslims themselves.

Unfortunately, the spiritual deception and chains of satan over their hearts and soul is strong.
We pray for God's mercy for Muslims for freedom!

True!

Human prefers darkness to light because their deeds are evil

This makes me remember the story of a very wicked man who died in Lagos..He was so wicked that even in his old age, while his children were fighting over his properties in his living room, they threw him downstairs from their 1 storey building. He broke his legs as a result and became sick with no child even pitying his condition. He was so wicked that even his children had no feelings for him. He was left and deserted by friends, relations, wife and children. Only his lawyer was his companion.

One day, as his life was coming to an end, he called his lawyer who rushed over to see him on his dying bed at home. Sensing that the wicked man would soon pass away, the lawyer asked him to pray to God for forgiveness of sins before he crosses over. The guy answered that he has never prayed before and does not know how to pray because he doesn't know which God to believe. The lawyer asked him to choose one God now and pray to that God. He explained the difference between the Christian God and that of Islam. The man thought for a while and decided he'll ask Allah for forgiveness. Few minutes later, he died. His fate was already sealed. Satan really got his soul after all the wickedness he had done.

Men themselves don't know that they love darkness. Wicked men always mistakenly choose darkness because their evil deeds must be judged. And by choosing darkness and ending with it, they come into a just judgement of God upon their evil ways.

TenQ:
Unfortunately, the spirit of lies and deception prevent most Muslims from acknowledging the truth even when clearly presented to them. They are just used to defending Islam, Mohammed and Allah with lies

It's a spirit. So, you can expect them to defend anything Islam even against the well-being of their own souls.

How can any sane man be comfortable with a god that promises to cast him to hell and then later remove him after an unspecified length of time?

Is fire palatable even for 5 seconds?

achorladey:
Na style to get consolation and save his bartered face of lies and manipulations packed into his madness and insanities peddling brains

Lol.

achorladey:
I laugh when he manipulated Aemmyjah and Cornelboy into thinking Achorladey = Emusan and then they ended up being worst fools on nairaland

You see those dancing to the lies and manipulations while being fools

How can anyone believe such lies?

Courz:
achorladey, God bless you For exposing the foolishness of Mad MaxinDhouse. Mad MaxinDhouse, with your Maggot infested Brain, are you seeing what your beloved Watchtower said about Noah being a Preacher of righteousness? Look at the publication from your own website confirming exactly what I said in the First page of this thread which also exposes their Manipulation of Bible verses.

They have admitted that the Bible does not mention Noah preaching to the people before the Flood nor did It ever mention God asking Noah to preach. The Bible only said Noah was a preacher of Righteousness. It is just like someone being an advocate of something or someone who is vocal and passionate about something. But that doesn't mean that the person was asked or sent to advocate for something to specific people as in the case of Noah. Anyone can be a preacher of righteousness but that doesn't mean you were asked to Preach to specific people with a specific warning. There is a difference. So, if Watchtower in this publication admitted they don't know if Noah preached because the Bible never mentioned it, why did they change the Bible verse about Noah and the Flood that I mentioned in the first page of this thread? Foolish people! Blind guides leading the Blind.

If the Bible never mentioned something, don't add to it or else you will face strong judgement from God.

Achorladey, this their publication you just posted is a typical example of the publications of JW being their own enemy. They say one thing with their upper lip and then say another with their lower lip and their publications make them look stupid. So, what will the big fool Mad MaxinDhouse have to say about his own publication proving me right?

Mad MaxinDhouse, you should be ashamed of yourself.

I have never seen Maxindhouse being ashamed of himself for the many wrong things he's known for. He would even still boast about his wrongs. That's someone who told me categorically that he is proud to have called another person a mad man.

oteneaaron:
This thread in itself is an evidence of one the many LIES of MaxInDHouse.

Jerusalem was NOT destroyed in 607 BCE - this is a fact.

Therefore, his claims of Jesus coming back in 1914 is nothing but a SHAMELESS LIE.

Without 607 BCE, there can be no "prophecy" of 1914.

QED.

Gbam!

They have to force Jerusalem to be destroyed in 607 BC so that their 1914 lie can sell.

achorladey:
Fxmasterz already has enough evidence now. He simply want us to nail that liar with the evidence we will present again to make that liar see who he really is.

I trust you brothers. You keep good records and know where his lying comments are saved. I salute your uncanny ability to be able to pull out evidences and proofs anytime they're needed.

Emusan:
I think, I've posted a screenshot of him claiming the name Christian is CURSED and BASTARDIZED and "whosoever thinks he belongs to Christ under the CURSED AND BASTARDIZED old group name(Christian) should think twice", that is why their gods gave them a new name and because of that they have LEFT THE NAME CHRISTIAN to Christendom.

But the same him going about today shouting Yes! I'm a Christian!

Another, lie from him is that, what the Apostles did by selling their properties and share it among themselves is EVIL, FLESH and what Christ never taught anybody to do that.

Look at the beginning of his statement "The move to ERADICATE POVERTY..."

Did Apostles claim that they want to ERADICATE POVERT?

Later the same lying liar was caught saying the best way the world can show equality is by doing what the Apostles did by sharing their properties equally.

But you know why he made that false claim about the generosity act of the Apostles?

It was because there was a thread like how church aren't doing act of giving to their members(I can't really remember the actually discussion). He joined the thread and started condemning, and I then ask him, since Watchtower has been selling their kingdom halls built with jws money, how many times have they share the proceed among their members?

As usual, he started twisting the scripture and claimed the act of generosity of the Apostles is EVIL.

Many lies told by him on this forum and the most astonished part is that he doesn't have shame even when the lies are plainly brought to his face.

He once said, any jws elder who watcht football isn't a SPIRIT FILL jws and many more!

The person who can lie that Holy spirit told him I Emusan is the same person with achorladey and others on this forum.

If he can lie against Holy spirit, which lie will be too big for him to lie again?

Since the guy is now calling himself a Christian, he now belongs to the bastardized group or what? Na him be 'bastardize', not me.

achorladey:
Cornelboy, Aemmyjah joined in the lies and manipulations and ended up being according to MaxInDHouse words worst fools on nairaland


cc: Emusan, FxMasterz, Courz, Oteneaaron

FxMasterz you have more reason and evidence why I say MaxInDHouse peddles madness and insanities from his brains as in there are a lot of madness and insanities contained in that brains of his. He will say it is insult and abuse. you can see he is telling us is real personality.

The evidences are overwhelming. He even told me yesterday that he's proud to have called you 'Asinwin', etc., because, according to him, you didn't answer a simple question he asked. So, I really got to understand why you described him as you did. You never said he's mad. You only say he peddles madness from his brains. That's really correct since he himself says he's proud to call someone 'Asinwin', 'mad man' etc. The peddling is real.