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There is a consequence for every action.

The combined action of selfish, greedy, hateful and godless people is the main cause of human suffering.

GOD has tried to guide people in the right direction even sending his own son to die for their sins , and yet they remain hardened ingrates and remain lost in their pitiful condition.


Truly sad !!
Why can't you just explain out of compassion and love to the Op why it is so or not so to clarify him than sayin what you just said? His points are logical and very true. If those acts were ascribed to another deity,you will be the first to condemn such deity. Its just pathetic how religion blinds us to even the minutest of reason....

malvisguy212:
we were created in His pleasure, He predestined our character before the world began.

HCpaul:
Yes! Athiest are the most foolish set of people that ever exist.
Their ultimate stupidity is not centered on their disbelieve on God's existence but on intangible force.

I was surprised to see on Niraland how a satanist was fighting an athiest. The guy did that because he knew that he was more wiser than the thiest.

King David in the bible said, "Only a fool will claim that there is no God."

I can't just stop meditating on the gravity of that statement.
Today, athiest are the offspring and decendant of Apostle Thomas. He had been with Jesus for many years in his earthly ministry but still had to seek for evidence after his departure.

Faith and evidence are two different thing, and an attempt to claim evidence will source out a natural antipathy towards God.

Average athiest uses scientific knowledge to defend themselves, and conclude that the universe doesn't have a creator.

The universe is a non-living thing and God is life (a living being). Non-living thing cannot create itself, but entirely depends on a creator.

The technologies and inventions we have today is a very good illustration.
Before a scientist invent a robot, computer, and automobiles, are they there? Do they exist? The answer is a capital NO.
This is because all technologies and inventions are non-living thing. And imagine a common mosquito that possesses life, living without any human contribution.

You must know the secretes behind men who claims spirituality. Peter doesn't just wasted his life without any hope. But if evidence is what you require, our evidence are faith, hope, and love. And those three things are eternal.
You will soon die but this three things will always live.
That is why "the just shall live by faith."

A request for evidence proves nothing but unseriousness. These people sees God's precepts for holiness as an umbearable protocols.
They would have love a commandment that says: Thou shall go to club, thou shall accumulate a life time wealth, yea must be selfish, and yea shall sin. But they hate the ways of God in other to satisfy their conscience. They always aspire to become independent of God.
They only focuses on the creative power of God which may send their soul to hell.
If it is science that will destroy your soul in hell, then cut it off. True wisdom doesn't resides in the mind, but in the heart. Intelligence cannot create life. And that is why i looked back and saw so many scientist dead and gone forever. A living dog is better than a dead lion. Peter is in heaven, and i desire to be their someday.

Even if eternity doesn't exist, christians faith is capable of creating one.

Satanist admits the existence of God, but only have an hatred for him. And that is why the bible considered this set of people wise but unsaved.
"Be wise as serpents but be harmless as dove."

But i wonder why they believe in one thing that the bible said. They believe in death, because they see people dying. That was why Jesus said, "You will die in your sin, verily i say, you will surely die in your sin."



Don't risk eternity, and don't decieve your soul with a false confidence. Repent today and challenge Jesus to hear from him, and you will hear.

I love you all.

dalaman:
What is the difference between Hitler, Stalin and Moses some one you revere and believe is your God's best prophet according to your bible? Where all these characters not genocidal maniacs? Christians and Jews with God on their side oppressed and enslaved others, your bible even has laws on how to buy and sell salves. Christians all over time have used the bible to commit all sorts of atrocities, over 90 percent of the Germans that participated in the holocaust were christians. Nigeria is suffering as a result of too much religiosity.

malvisguy212:
my good friend, do not allow the devil to deceive you , God is there , He is waiting for you, forget about this atheists who are writing long epistle to deceive you with there seducing doctrine. Let me tell you the truth , To believe in God , it will caused you your favourite sin ,that is why atheists don't want to believe in God because they cannot do without their favourite sin.

An atheist who like to live immoral life, an evangelist approach him and say "repent and live a good live " do you think he will repent ? I tell you the truth any small opportunity that came his way which disprove the existence of God , he will believe it and be ready to defend it just because he want to continue living immoral life.
https://www.nairaland.com/2635294/advice-backsliding-christians

malvisguy212:
Proton if you herd the gospel and rejected it but live a good life (which is impossible) you cannot be saved.

ayoku777:
There are some prophecies in scripture that can be called "Dual Prophecy". Either because they were fulfilled in two persons in scripture or because they were fulfilled two times in history.

And there are a few prophecies like that in scripture.

This is one;

Gen 26v4 -And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in THY SEED shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;

Here God is talking about two persons at the same time. About Jacob (Israel) and about Jesus Christ. This prophecy was fulfilled literally or physically in Jacob (Israel), and was fulfilled spiritually or symbolically in Jesus (It also will eventually be fulfilled physically and eternally in Jesus in the age to come).

Both Jacob and Jesus were both the seed of Abraham. Jacob is the seed of Abraham after the flesh; and Jesus is the seed of Abraham both after the flesh and after the Spirit.

Gal 3v16 -Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

Here is another dual prophecy

1Chronicles 22v9 -Behold, a son shall be born to thee, who shall be a man of rest; and I will give him rest from all his enemies round about: for his name shall be Solomon, and I will give peace and quietness unto Israel in his days.

v10 -He shall build an house for my name; and he shall be my son, and I will be his father; and I will establish the throne of his kingdom over Israel for ever.

This is also a dual prophecy. This prophecy was talking literally about Solomon; but also symbolically or spiritually about Jesus. The prophecy was fulfilled in both Solomon and Jesus. Solomon and Jesus were both the seed of David, and they both built God a house.

Romans 1v3 -Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

Matthew 16v18 -And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Hebrews 3v3 -For this man (Jesus) was counted worthy of more glory than Moses, inasmuch as he who hath BUILDED THE HOUSE hath more honour than the house.

There are many others verses in the old testament that are dual prophecies like these. Prophecies that were literally fulfilled in a biblical character but also fulfilled spiritually or symbolically, and even sometimes also physcially in Jesus.

Its good and needful to know and note that much of the old testaments is the veiled and sealed revelation of Christ Himself, unveiled and unsealed in the new testament.

A lot of the prophecies of the old testament mirror Christ, and what He came to do; is doing, or will do. So even though some prophecies were literally fulfilled in another biblical character, they were also fulfilled or are being fulfilled spiritually and symybolically in Christ Himself.

Many bible characters; Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon, Immanuel, Cyrus, Zerubbabel, to mention a few; all had prophecies about them that also mirror the Christ. Their lives and/or ministries are old testament types and shadows of the life and ministry of Jesus.

So most times, literal prophecies about these men are also symbolic or spiritual or also physical prophecies about Jesus Himself. Making them dual prophecies.

Shalom

arimahoseloka:
op I am in kaduna. I was even at the house where it took place last week I will upload some pics I took. But those pics u have are not the real pics... They are very fake. Will upload the pics I took very soon

Trailblazer1:
"The wealth of the hidden are laid up for the righteous"

i go soon take what belongs to me from Dangote

Ishilove:
On a more serious note, clowning aside

Johnydon22, what you are doing is trying to box God into the rational confines of the four walls of human reasoning. An exercise in futility, I must add.

You say the things you say because you do not know what you are talking about. You think you do, but you don't.

What you need is a 'Paul encounter' to open your eyes. Paul had to be blinded before he could see, and I hope God shows you mercy by 'blinding' you so that you too can see the light.

But the natural (carnal) man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned -1st Cor 2:14. KJV.

richommie:
Suspect her Too


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SUGARBEE:
Break up with her

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johnydon22:
[b]Before anybody shouts or plays the victims card here about their own religion, let everybody know that in this post when i say "God" i am not only referring to One deity but to many. Both the Muslim and christian concept will be referred together as God, this is a mind tickling thread and a charge for independent reason.

I have always seen Muslims here threaten a Christian with hell like "Repent and turn to God and his holy prophet Muhammed or burn in hell" Ironically Christians also accord the same favour to them like "You will burn in hell if you don't accept Jesus" and then funny enough both religions too regard atheists to be hell bound and also adherents of other religions.
You see, its not even about being a theist. they all still think you are going to hell either way as long as its not theirs. . Christians still think Muslims are going to hell just like atheist even though Muslims believe in a God and same thing goes the other way round.

Now looking at the idea of HELL, it is ok to point out the heavy influence of greek culture on the new testament. The old testament (Judaic Tenark) knows nothing like a HELL, but the influence of the greek underworld concept TARTARUS gave birth to sickening concept HELL when adopted by the newly emerged religion.

I once told a christian that was preaching to me "The very concept of a HELL, ridicules the idea of a God. It insults it and drags it to a level lower than a human"
One might be thinking my reason for saying this.

I have wooed many girls in my life and if i recall correctly i have never said to any of them "I love you, love me back or i hurt you" any sane mind will see that everything should be wrong in that statement.
The very idea of me hurting her if she doesn't love me back nullifies my confession of love for her.
Take another look at that statement, it is a blackmail and an abusive word. I have threatened her so it is a blackmail, if she doesn't love me back i will hurt her. It is a sheer blackmail giving her two nonsensical choices.

Now this is one of the reasons religious people do not know that they themselves ridicule their God concepts even more than atheists, We have seen everything wrong in the statement i presented above, but then again let us show the very large scaled way this is used.
God says "I love you, if you don't love me back i will burn you in hell forever" Am sure everyone can now see everything wrong in this, it is blackmail, it is blatant abuse and the very sadistic idea of punishing someone because they don't reciprocate your love reveals egoism at a chronic level, it is barbaric as well as it is repulsive and blatantly implausible. Yet they want us to swallow that a perfect being operates within such childish egoism and abusive ways.

Come to think of it, God should be perfect right? Yes Yes God is perfect. God is omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, He is even omniperfect.
This very idea of perfection is a flaw in the character people have heaped on their different God concepts. Let us see how.

God is perfect, perfection needs nothing. A circle needs nothing added to it to make it 360°. At 360° a circle is perfect and it is impossible to add even 1° and if you take away 1° and makes it 359° it ceases to be a circle.

So God is perfect, God needs nothing, you can never add anything to it neither can you take away, perfection is just perfection.
If this is the case and God is perfect, this surely means such being needs nothing like Worship, reverence, acknowledgement, praise and all these because it is just perfect.
If God is perfect it simply means that all the worship and reverence etc are useless because he doesn't need them, unless you assert it is not perfect then i will agree it needs them to feed his ego and so feel important.

But religions drag their God concept too low to a level that it needs worship and acknowledgement on daily basis, needs it real bad even threatens people with eternal torture if you fail to give it, this very quality betrays the idea of perfection and drags down the God concept to the state of Egoism, Narcissism, sadism and all round imperfect.....

"Believe i exist and i reward you, disbelieve and i will hurt you so bad forever in an eternal roasting fire" Can abuse and blackmail get any cheaper? You would agree with me an existent powerful and perfect being (if there is even need to) do not need people to be threatening others as to hogwash them into believing it exists, rather it should be able to prove its own existence, isn't it?
This also shows how religions ridicule God and not atheist.

Again, a perfect being should be above hate, anger, jealousy, grief and all, these disturbing emotions are all characteristics of mundane beings like us because it stems from our own emotional insecurity but if God is perfect it is impossible for such emotions to hold sway on it, it is impossible for it to operate within the confines of these emotions, But the religions are heaping on us God concepts that operate within the confines of such disturbing emotions as Anger, jealousy, hate and even bear grudges with humans and then wrap it under the guise of perfection and expect any right thinking human not to ask questions or refute such ideas! The very acknowledgment of these emotions in a supposedly perfect being kills the idea of perfection and portrays a very imperfect being or should i say concept.
This yet again is another way religions ridicule and insult their God concepts.

It is common knowledge for Christians and Muslims, to claim their holy books are all flawless and perfect without blemish and are the words of the supposedly perfect God who created the universe.
But just a look at the books it shows the skills of mundane men in every inch of it, it depicts the knowledge of ordinary men and claiming such to be from a perfect being ridicules and insults the very intellect of such entity because you would be sure a perfect being would do better.

One cannot help but imagine how the very mythological historical antiquity of a certain set of people (which makes up almost 60% of the bible) is the word of a God, how?
Or the very misogynistic, chauvinistic, barbaric, blood drenched charges as seen in different verses of both the Quran and the Bible connotes a universal deity of a perfect status, That is also an insult to the very being these books claim to belong to.
And this yet again shows how religions insult and ridicule their own God concepts.

Another idea is the chosen race brouhaha, A perfect universal God would choose one people specially over others and you still tag it a universal concept? That is clearly the worst form of racism and such favouritism ideology betrays the very concept was invented by the very people it favours and loves more than others even to the extent of taking their side in wars against others (which allegedly he supposed to have created)think about it, this betrays a huge character flaw and a ridicule to the idea of a universal God and is sheer implausible.

Most people in religions often think it is blasphemy to think or ask questions, in fact i have once thought like that. They are afraid to question God and the disturbing characters it is portrayed to have. As a matter of fact many times this fear effectively keeps most locked up in their respective religions because no one wants to be punished by a perfect but again JEALOUS God.

Many would say: Why do atheist discuss God? It is quite simple, differences in ideologies creates room for healthy discussion, scrutiny of the idea. Atheist might lack belief in the God concepts but the stories are there, we have Hindu books to read brahma stories, bible to read yahweh stories, Quran to read Allah stories and many other deities out there just like we also have J.R.R Tolkien Lord of the rings book to read about Gandalf, one necessarily do not need to BELIEVE Gandalf is real before discussing Gandalf, The discussion is always a call to reason and a charge to allow your mind pour out their questions.

Another would ask: Atheists are afraid of hell!
Lol. . this one is always funny, if an atheist is afraid of hell there is no way he would still be an atheist, not at all....In fact we see hell exactly the way we see children who thinks fairies are real its a very hilarious idea.

Again, this write up is not an attack on any religion either is it meant to insult any, it only remains a stimulus to independent reason, healthy questions unbound by fear. I hope none sees it as an attack to their religion. Man always have been a curious being, Man is not a robot that downloads every data you input into it, man should be able to weigh and compare, scrutinize and even criticize. . so do not be afraid to allow your questions cultivate.

Nothing in life is to be feared only understood, this is the time to understand more so we may fear less... Because a subtle thought in error can give rise to useful enquiry that can establish truth of great value

Buddha once said: Believe nothing, even if you heard it from me. unless it agrees with your own reason.

This shows you are supposed to subject every idea to judgement of your own independent reason. Let go of the fear because there is nothing to fear when using your own brain and judgment.... if i am to go on with ways religions ridicule their own God, i would write on forever but let me stop where i am now.[/b]