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k2039: I have a feeling the Oronasye and Oti scene were stagedAbsolutely. There is not an iota doubt about this. Why would those versed in decorum disgrace the office of the Presidency with this amateurish public display that is totally out of place and defiant of protocol ? Why not present any objection to Ribadu's report to the President in private? Also, why is it Oronsaye , an absentee when the committee carried out its work, who is most vocal and confrontationally bullish? There is also the consideration of conflicts of interest with allegations of Oransaye et al being compromised by later involvement with those under investigation. All in all, we have seen this unconscionable and thoughtlessly diversionary antics too many times from the Jonathan Government. |
I totally agree that it is indeed an international embarrassment. Choreographed antics such as that displayed publicly in front of the Presidency, over the Ribadu report, disgraces Nigeria as an aberration where lack of decorum and dearth of morality is king. The Otedola-style 'James Bond' espionage + 419 shenanigans has only just begun. I expect the agents of this ultra-corrupt Government to now fully turn their efforts towards discrediting Ribadu. It is just sad that it is Nigeria's image suffering badly from these unbelievably shameless displays, plots and subterfuge. http://www.punchng.com/news/ribadu-report-oronsaye-foul-cry-an-embarrassment-groups/ Ribadu report: Oronsaye foul cry, an embarrassment —Groups |
http://sunnewsonline.com/new/opinion/where-are-the-fertilizers/ Where are the fertilizers? |
take dat: Don't be angry with GEJ. Orosanye acted in that manner in connivance with GEJ and Diezani. If Orosanye felt left out and that due process wasn't followed he would have voiced out his dissent to the President and in the media earlier before friday or would have waited till after the submission of the report. He practically chose to throw decorum to the dogs being aware that the press was present at the presentation.Indeed. GEJ is only being true to type and those who know and accept his nature cannot be angry with him. Also, there is no "disrespect" going on at all. Just a cynically orchestrated drama involving corruption 'fighting back'. Ribadu himself coined that saying that is now an adage in our National life. I.e "when you fight corruption, corruption fights back". This is why , to preempt the damage corruption does when it fights back, Reuters got the 'leaked' report. GEJ, as some of us have always insisted, is nothing but an ultra-corrupt opportunist. "Show me your friends and I show you your character". Did Nigerians note this powerful consideration when GEJ was being 'endorsed' by the most corrupt individuals in Nigeria during the election? Did some of us not argue that a President who frolicked so openly and so comfortably with the most corrupt Nigerians and AGIPs would be DOA (dead on arrival) after he won the election? Many Nigerians are just way too emotional plus lack political sophistication and the ability to think critically. We will continue to suffer , for a long time, because of those deficiencies. Even now, some are still here trying to spin this pathetic show of shame in favour of one of the most shamelessly corrupt Government, with a penchant for engaging in ludicrously unbelievable shenanigans, Nigeria has known in recent memory. "Fresh air" ojare. |
lagerwhenindoubt: I am a bit confused here especially the reaction of the President of The Federal Republic of Nigeria. Jonathan Goodluck Ebele.My guy, is this not what some of us are saying about the President? I.e his indifferent attitude that can only stem from insincerity? Do we not have many, many examples of how sincere leaders rise above gradualism and the shackles of the status quo to bravely support the birth of real reform that puts nations on the path of greatness? Instead GEJ 'bottles' it every single time he is placed in a position where the only options are to confront others bravely, for the benefit of Nigeria, or capitulate to his evil 'sponsors' and AGIP backers/godfathers who want Nigeria to remain an aberration profiting a small minority. |
take dat: You are right. According to Ribadu, the only time Orosanyi took part in the assignment was when he came to serve as front for a company.My brother, look at how our ultra-corrupt AGF and Aondoakaa on steroids (Adoke Bello) is deployed and it is obvious what the Government is about. Let us not even begin to delve into the many antics of this government that, without any doubt, indicate a compromised mien and an unwillingness to tackle graft. It will be interesting to see what is made of this report. Ribadu has done what was asked of him even if others were not sincere to begin with. How many recommendations from numerous committees, requiring tough and fundamentally reforming actions, has the GEJ Government implemented? What was the reward for the Presidential advisory committee that submitted a report directing GEJ to cut profligacy, waste and bloated Governance? GEJ promptly disbanded said committee , after their public show of 'intransigence', to announce glibly and callously that "leaner government not possible" !!!! Let us wait and see if a Leopard changes it spot or if a Stone can produce water. |
Sike: Somebody pls tell this yeye Ribadu to find somewhere sit jare!As usual, make it about the messenger and not the message. Very intelligent, mature and helpful contributions to finding solutions that will take us where we need to go. |
Jarus: My brother, that is the tragedy of my generation. They didn't witness the war, they didn't read about it, yet they are the ones at the forefront of arguments here. Anybody who never knew General Shuwa before this news doesn't deserve to contribute to the talk, especially as it relates to civil war. I can see folks here asking 'who is Shuwa?' And after being answered, being the one to throw insults. The level of ignorance in display on Nairaland here is very worrisome. That is why some of us have retreated to our mere watchers in topics relating to Nigeria's political history.Indeed. Even before entering this thread, I knew why news of the death of a Major General ,ordinarily uninteresting to most, would be on page 5. I knew the thread would be 'of interest' because of the usual ethnic vituperation and vapid obsession over a war probably no one here took part in yet are forever keen to pass judgement over. RIP to Mohammed Shuwa and RIP to the worthless minds of most Nigerians as well. In its place, we can hope for the resurrection of minds that can aid Nigeria's development with a focus on how to improve things today instead of a malevolent obsession with holding on to a past that is very open to subjective and nuanced interpretations. |
mrrock: @Billyonaire.Absolutely. The process has to be tainted in some way to diminish its credibility - and the Otedola-style shenanigans has begun. Does it make sense to anyone that a Nollywood drama had to play out on the very day a formal presentation of the committees work was made to the President? Nigerians need to begin thinking critically or we are doomed to be perpetual slaves of corruption and roguery. It is not rocket science. We keep seeing things that do not happen anywhere else in the world being the order of the day in Nigeria. Yet, we Nigerians make excuses to validate the senseless 419 antics of our leaders. |
[quote author=Frank-C]Is it not really simple enough from the history of the actors? Ribadu has never been known to be a team builder or a team leader. I think he believes it affect efficiency. Check his records, Ribadu arrests suspects even before investigations finishes. His methods has been historically unorthodox and make no mistake about it, he achieves results. His method shields him from the inefficiency of the beauracracy. For Orosanye, anybody that knows him will know that he is one of the most principled, process based and fearless civil servant this country ever had. Take a look at his days at the Head of Service. He built majority of the service structure in civil service today, so he had always been a process person and will naturally argue with Ribadu's methods. Actually, if you look at the committee, you will notice that core professionals were drawn from different fields for this assignment. Ribadu himself is a core professional, very technical too. When you have an all technical committee like this, it is always better to drive it with a man/woman with strong leadership skills. Ribadu has never had that. To my mind, there is no contradiction here, Orosanya was being true to type, so is Ribadu. But i believe that Ribadu could have managed this team better while achieving his desired result. First rule in leadership is never allow your team to be fragmented. And to Mr President, we all have a lot to learn from his crisis management. He managed the situation well, while allowing all to save face. He is a thorough team leader. Now, Ribadu's report has been accepted. Orasanya's inputs can still be accomodated. The collection of these form the report of the committee. This will further expand the discussion points that will lead to concesus. Most importantly, their harmonized findings must be taken seriously and as Mr President said, ALL indicted must be brought to book, but more importantly, the system MUST be made to be more fool proof.[/quote]Why are you crafting this elaborate Nollywood drama around something that is very simple given the history of Nigeria and corruption? There is always a 'spoiler' thrown into the mix to taint and undermine processes while diverting attention from original target. Simple as that. It is the oldest trick in the book when corruption fights back and, for me, that is what is happening here. It is the 419 we are famous for deployed at leadership level. I bet you provided similar talk over the disgraceful Otedola-Farouk entrapment spy saga that James Bond would have been proud of. The ultra-corrupt and highly unscrupulous AGIP (Otedola) now the champion of anti-corruption? Only in Nigeria !!! You can say what you want, as entitled, but those who know the world beyond Nigeria will appreciate that our leaders have turned our Nation into a horrid joke where disgraceful acts of 419 is practiced at the highest level with total impunity and lack of shame or even an appreciation of what must not be done because it is totally unacceptable/unseen elsewhere. It is the day of making a formal presentation to the Presidency that this spat had to be played out publicly? |
@OP This is why I christened Nairaland the 'Jerry Springer' of Nigerian forums. Like the Jerry Springer show entertaining the trashiest folks existing , many come here to be rude, confrontational, controversial, unnecessarily aggressive and downright idiotic because they think it is what others will appreciate, 'like' and praise. I think it really comes down to ignoring some topics and some posters. |
mapet: @ Oga Wizeboy,Too many, motivated by one sectional agenda or the other, talk before they think. Despite being showed the obvious lack of credibility inherent in the patently ridiculous story, many still continued to behave like the ALUU lynch mob. Frankly, I am convinced most members of this forum deserve to be ignored. |
mapet: So because she makes an 8-way official trip, ACN will loose southwest? Oga sir, I tried as much as possible to understand how you guys reason so senslessly?Very simple. To folks like him, ACN = Yoruba. The perceived demise or weakening of the ACN = setback for Yorubas. This is why it is people like him always making inane comments about the ACN's so-called downfall. Go through the numerous threads to see those who over-celebrated the so-called arrest of Mrs. Ajimobi despite many sensible posters trying to show them that the story of her 'arrest' lacked logic and credibility. Also, go and see those who used the most scornful language against the woman yet remain unable to apologise and you will note why some talk "senselessly" as you observed. |
Sleek05: Thank u Gbawe 4 making so much sense. Cuz my parents stay in ib, during d elections, I studied d Gov Ajimobi's background and was so impressed. Dis man has reached d peak of his career, he was the MD of a prestigious oil company, had a lot of money before he came into power, yet, every small thn, dey accuse him of choppin dia money! Now dat d 'no smoke without fires' and d 'I'm with pm news on dis one' have been shamed because even pm news has apologised to the governor's wife, I hope Nigerians get 2 think next tym before embracing any poo written by opposition parties. Dat report was so badly written, belongs in d trash, yet d 'no smoke without fire' idiots took it in hook, line and sinker. SmhMy brother, it is a very personal thing for me. I see people attacking the rich and successful routinely and without a care for decency and fairness. As Nigerians, we should know better given how we are victims of negative stereotyping by other Africans. You have a nice car, nice house and dress well - all gained through hard work and talent. Yet fellow Africans , never bothered about developing themselves optimally so as to compete and thrive , are more comfortable excusing their own deficiencies by sneering at you and telling the world you are not to be respected because you gained everything through criminality, fraud etc. Why can some not simply do some research to see that Ajimobi was a very talented technocrat ? The man showed exemplary solutions provision skills we all know is extremely well-rewarded in the Professional world. Yet, we see many now comfortable attacking him because his kids school in the UK. How many of us, given that our children are our most precious treasures, would not educate our kids privately in the best schools if we could afford it? What is better than giving your kids the best start in life if you can afford it? |
solomon111: I don't understand what you are getting at?Why are you always so angry, rude and confrontational? Have you ever been to Ghana? Ifyalways has a very good point people like you can never appreciate because you are more interested in ranting against others than even inspecting their point which may come from actual experience. I have been to Ghana more times than I care to count. I have engaged Nigerian students there many, many times. A constant reason they cite for choosing Ghana is parental worries over cultism, disruption to education et al. Ifyalways makes a very good point that accounts for a significant amount of Nigerian students choosing Ghana. Yet it is those of you who have the least fact-based and on-the-ground knowledge who have to be the loudest and most rude. If you know nothing, then say nothing. |
IykeD: Guilty conscience ma'm! Who do you plan to deceive? Why should your kid(s) be in a secondary school in the UK?Have you ever taken time to look at Governor Ajimobi's professional history? Can some of you , before you talk, ever make allowance for how there are very talented folks out there who are wealthy because of their ability? This simplistic take on life won't get many of you anywhere. Go and look at the man's Professional record to see he could always afford to educate his children in the UK and stop this nauseatingly unfair character assassination and witch hunt. It is the sort of frustrated 'bad belle' mentality that got those poor boys lynched in ALUU by savages !!! If you cannot afford to educate your children privately in the UK, does that mean everyone doing so has achieved it with Nigeria's money? What kind of nonsensical reasoning is that? One thing I am sure about in life is that success never heads towards the hateful and spiteful who always assume the worst of others because of their material wealth. |
politician: Nigerians!! Kai!!!Thank you !!! For me, the number of times I have read here the senseless BS that "there is an element of truth in every rumour" is simply a nauseating indicator of the unprincipled characters of some using this forum. So every outrightly wicked and ungodly lie must be viewed as having an element of truth to it? Na wa for some Nigerians. Everyone going around feigning hypocritical shock at the ALUU killers. As if some , with the way they talk hatefully here, are not capable of similar going by their summary judgement and total lack of fairness towards others. Anyone who is a politician just deserves to be hated blindly and savagely ? Some of us should check the ugliness of our minds . |
mapet: @ Ndu_chucksHope he listens. My assignment for him is to go and and study the ideas that drove the 'green revolution'. Ndu-chucks simply loves being contrarian for the sake of it alone. In is indeed intellectually lazy to continue insisting Government must not be involved in the business of agriculture especially in an era when the sector is virtually failed and incapable of delivering perhaps the most important need of man i.e food security. Government must get involved, physically and financially, to resurrect a vital sector and encourage wider participation for the benefit of Nigeria. Simple as that !! I really don't know how idealism leads some to ignore logical efforts of government predicated on veritable models that have delivered success world wide. This is not an agro-economic drive predicated on the concept of adding to businesses government engages in. It is a serious attempt to ensure we begin producing more of what we eat. With investors shying away and uptake not particularly voluntary, it is only an irresponsible Government that would fold it's arm and watch the Nation become entirely reliant on import to feed its people. I am feeling generous today and will even give Ndu-Chucks some 'research indicators' for his assignment. We are more or less where others were when their Government decided to get involved , one way or the other, to improve food security for their people and reduce over-reliance on import. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Revolution In 1961 India was on the brink of mass famine.[3] Borlaug was invited to India by the adviser to the Indian minister of agriculture M. S. Swaminathan. Despite bureaucratic hurdles imposed by India's grain monopolies, the Ford Foundation and Indian government collaborated to import wheat seed from CIMMYT. Punjab was selected by the Indian government to be the first site to try the new crops because of its reliable water supply and a history of agricultural success. India began its own Green Revolution program of plant breeding, irrigation development, and financing of agrochemicals.[4] |
seedord247: Your daughter is schooling in london while millions of innocent kids are trecking to pako school everyday in oyo state....Ajimobi was a gifted technocrat who has always been successful. He is a talented and successful man who could always afford to educate his daughter privately in the UK. Give him his dues and move on. It is unfair to suggest his daughter's private schooling comes at the expense of anything else when the man has the right to use his income to give his children the best in life as the rest of us are allowed to do. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiola_Ajimobi Professional career Political career |
felifeli: I am now sick up to here to be reading dozens of new threads everyday by some jobless igbo persons trumpeting the greatness,miseries and demands of igbo people.what is the matter with you people? Are you the only one in this world? Please moderators let us read something more edifying other than these depressingly persistent self-aggrandisement and self-pity. Thank youLook, this forum, because of its unique identity, naturally attracts the worst examples of individuals who hail from all Nigerian ethnic groups. If you want to come here and talk to other Nigerians productively then you will simply have to ignore certain treads and certain posters. As simple as that. Remember that an anonymous chat website is automatically the most attractive destination for life's losers who wish to feel good about themselves via celebrating others with a connotation of ethnicity. This is a place where those who have no achievements of their own can attach themselves , ethnically, to the individual success of Wole Soyinka, Chinua Achebe, Seal Henry Olusegun Samuel, Chiwetel Ejiofor, Fela, Chuka Umunna, D-Banj, P-Square et al How many Nairalanders, always bragging here about ethnic superiority, are as hardworking, talented, tolerant, successful and exemplary as the individuals they use to shore up their empty rhetoric of ethnic supremacy? Does Coscharis not employ Yoruba folks? Does Globacom not utilize many bright Igbos to keep the business group dominant and successful? Does Dangote shun human talent on account of ethnicity ? Start letting the losers here define your thinking and you will be no better than the racist perpetually judging black folks because of the actions of a few. |
ubandire: This Gbawe is one of the most foolish people i have ever come across on this forum and all my life,if u are trying to make a case over a verbal slip,which was immediately corrected,I now wonder why u obviously failed to contribute on more burning issues involving ur party ACN and it's leaders.Foam at the mouth all you want. Still does not change how your 'messiah' does not speak like a bright individual let alone a President. If you don't accept that others can say this, based on how they see him conducting himself, then go and hug a transformer on a rainy day. Silly sycophants. Most of you are losers on this forum and this is why you worship and defend undesirable flaws of fellow mortals blindly while personally joining issues with others who don't accept the low standards that will have messed up your lives to the extent you are here in frustration and loutishness. Go and see the BSC/BA graduates others parade throughout the world let alone PHD holders who should be erudition personified. You and others are nothing but losers and cretins with low ambition and expectations. Silly twit. The article below is one of the many in cyberspace, written by bright folks unimpressed with GEJ, ostensibly questioning Mr.President's erudition. Go and attack the many who have written similar out there. loser. http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/10/postulations-of-our-philosopher-president/ Postulations of our Philosopher- President |
Prof Corruption: The yorubas do not hate Obasanjo for nothing. There is a reason for it. The North love him and adore him, there is a reason for that too.Indeed. He has kicked his own in the teeth far too many times than memory can recall. |
Demdem: [s][/s]My guy, you should now be used to the modus operandi , focused on personal attacks , of the GEJ apologists. When he made the "black domination" gaffe in T and T, they defended him blindly. When he stated "he did not give a damn", they pledged automatic support. When he made the gaffe about his corruption effort , later spun as "notorious facts" by his embarrassed team, he enjoyed blind backing. Condemned for senselessly stating that the fuel subsidy protest was sponsored, the supporters club still cheered. Don't then be surprised they are here in all their insulting glory because it is pointed out that GEJ has no business mentioning Cameroon while in Liberia. It is not desirable in diplomacy and will surely cause offence as his host may feel he is distracted and inattentive. |
Demdem: Thats the key word. ROUTINELY.My brother, even as there are too many crybabies here always taking things personally, the truth is that GEJ does not come across as refined, confident or particularly knowledgeable. His numerous gaffes are chided regularly by social commentators. |
bubadaniel13: Where is it written that Presidents dont make mistakes, i just want to know?Who says President don't make mistakes? The problem is that our President routinely makes mistakes that makes him come across as unintelligent, uninformed, inattentive and lacking in sophistication. |
onatisi: why does everyone keep calling gbawe an old man?i still dont get it .Because Beaf, the intellectual midget and uber mischief-maker, started that nonsense. Bested intellectually, he had to resort to lame personal insults and lying about others as usual. The other fools saying 'old man' are just unthinking parrots , of even poorer intelligence than Beaf, who run their lives led blindly by others like unthinking lemmings. Onatisi, I always put my money where my mouth is. You are in Ghana. I will be in Accra in November. Let us meet so you can tell all these pathetic fools, suffering from inferiority complex, if I am Methuselah or if they are all sad losers and bitter failed hacks who need to feel good disparaging others they don't measure up to in any way. I tell the truth here. Perhaps because I am one of the few secure enough in himself to do so. Saying one has a wife, kids, mortgages and run businesses does not amount to being old. Otherwise the likes of Mark zuckerberg and David Beckham are "old men". It is irresponsible and jobless losers who have not made much of their adult lives, like Beaf who is around my age, who run around pretending to be 'ayonge' while trying to mock others childishly. Is it not why we are famous for age cheating? Bunch of grown-azz 36 years old running around with 17 year old kids on a pitch thinking they are smart and pretending to be 'young' but not realizing they are only fooling themselves. It is the same thing going on here. Tell these fools calling others old to tell us their age and how old they assume others to be. |
omiobo: OP,you disgust me. What is the point of this thread?Abeg, take it easy. Why should the OP disgust you? Why not the highly symbolic leader of the biggest black Nation on Earth who looks like a scared Rabbit every time he is in front of a camera? Why are you not embarrassed at GEJ's many gaffes ("I don't give a damn" , "black dominance" et al) that exposes how we are a nation still not putting our best hands forward? Nobody expect GEJ to be perfect but no one expects him to be in the UK only for him to say he is in the USA. Let us start having ambition as a people and stop respecting and deifying authority figures blindly. They are our servants and representatives. Thinking that way will bring the sophistication that will lead to Nigerians selecting square pegs for square holes to the benefit of our Nation. Currently, Nigerians are simply way too emotional. The President should earn the respect of Nigerians. He should be authoritative, confident, aware of his surroundings and knowledgeable about what he says. It is pointless turning on Nigerians who identify the absence of these qualities to the disgrace of Nigeria. |
ysquare: Indeed. Many only expected a truthful and 'correctional' head count of Nigerians from OBJ. We did not want favouritism in the South. We just wanted sincere actions that begin to make Nigeria a more equitable nation. Instead, OBJ embraced injustice and parochial servitude as he has done many times when in a position to truly deliver inspired leadership that may put Nigeria on the path of greatness.What is your point? |
onatisi: gbawe,i think you should drop it and let the matter die.the statement and post u made earlier about gej was totally uncalled for and unbecoming,but if you insist you are right,well it is free world.carry onHow was it totally uncalled for and who are you to decide what is called for and uncalled for? Guy, it is wit - and I don't do senseless reverence for the sake of it. How about the concept of how Nigerians need a man who is sharp, erudite and 'quick on the uptake' representing them? Is it just to accept anyone as President and begin defending everything they do blindly? The President is very gaffe-prone to the point it is natural to wonder about his general education and PHD. You may be a fan of GEJ but you need to understand he is accorded more 'room' by how Nigerian politics is generally 'accommodating' . You need to have a one-on-one with George Bush to note what he went through. Public office should not be for over-sensitive 'shrinking Violets'. |
duality: you shouldn't have said this. its too childish for an old man like you.If some of you cannot stand even the mildest of satirical talk against your 'messiah' , then it is probably prudent for you to stay away from public forums instead of insulting others because of your immaturity. GEJ is gaffe-prone to the point of embarrassment. He is not a good advertisement for Nigerian education. Simple. Also, making the silly assumption fellow posters are "old" because they write maturely and don't use "cuz", "wuz" , "Lol" et al is indicative of how many Nigerians are fraudulent-minded people. That is why you go around the world using 'football-age' that makes you feel better about yourself. Deceiving yourself and others that you are 'young' while insinuating others are old may work for you but it is something honest people don't patently do. Also, why not tell the forum how old you think I am so we can gain an idea of your definition of "old"? My mum always used to say a child could be 50 and an adult 16. You may be an irresponsible 30 year old man with no achievements while someone you age may have thriving businesses, kids, a wife etc. That does not make them "old". Rather, it makes you a fraud. How old are you? The fool Beaf and his minions here perfected the nonsense of calling me "old" while I actually went on to use his utterances here to show we are virtually the same age. He did the 'old' thing because he is racked with inferiority complex and felt more comfortable , ala the whole Nigerians and football age deception thingy, to clutch at straws. I let it slide. I am now ready to put you and other fraudsters to bed because it is now a case of a lie told a million times beginning to resemble truth. Tell us your age and tell us mine. |
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