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PoliticsRe: Osun Boosts Cattle Production With 10,000 Capacity Ranch by Gbawe: 12:46pm On Oct 22, 2012
Default01: Why ar u guys disturbing beef.yes dis is a gud one bt dnt 4get dat d highest producers of egg in nigeria is 4rm beefs state(delta state)
Maybe it is because Beaf never stopped "disturbing" Aregbesola here on NL while his own State was regressing terribly under Uduaghan. If the fool was still here, he would be the only one spamming this thread idiotically with garishly enlarged fonts and silly pictures.
PoliticsRe: Osun Boosts Cattle Production With 10,000 Capacity Ranch by Gbawe: 12:28pm On Oct 22, 2012
Ufeolorun: The big pictures starts from my neck of the woods, Nigeria needs a clear path to progress and I believe 'local patriotism' is a readily available platform to achieve it.fluffy Nigerian nationalism will not get us anywhere;it's been proven,the building blocks on which the country stands must take ownership of the country.
By the way,I don't think you r the most or one of the liberal/open minds on this platform so no need to grandstand;check it out, you have been one of the cheer-leaders vouching for a learned professor with a heavily divisive perception. grin
You are totally correct with your comments relating to the topic and the predilection of the poster you engage. One has to wonder what hatred propels the poster to the extent he must always and singularly mention Tinubu and never OUK, Theodore Orji, Pius Anyim, Odili, Uduaghan, Elechi, Obi and the thousands of deleterious politicians and political godfathers , many currently in influential public office, who enrich themselves and give absolutely nothing back.

Afterall, did Tinubu not support the administrator under positive discussion here i.e Aregbesola? Why, does Redsun remain perpetually blind to the reality of Nigeria ,displayed by how he has eyes for Tinubu alone, without understanding pragmatically that, even with his faults, Nigeria would be much better if others like OBJ, OUK, Anenih, IBB et al were supporting men of ideas into office as Tinubu is doing?

I consider folks like Redsun worthless to Nigeria. They only know how to hate, hurl insult, tear down everything/everyone and be partisan/selective in outlook. His 'solutions' , on every thread and for every topic, never go beyond the crude concept of 'ALUUing' leaders. There is no element of his thinking that is about pragmatism, realism and compromising with current reality and present state of affairs to reach eventual destination. He does not appreciate the concept of the 'lesser devil' in his attachment of idealist utopianism to a Nation that is more Soddom and Gomorra and one where folks have to simply appreciate the 'lesser devils' because everywhere is full of demons. People like him don't understand that democracy is a journey and not a destination.
PoliticsRe: SSS Summons Senator Zanna Over Boko Haram Commander by Gbawe: 11:11am On Oct 22, 2012
MAYOWAAK: I am really concerned not about the pro-GEJ propaganda of Buhari and his threat of making Nigeria ungovernable for Dr. Jonathan, but of the fact that Nigerians swallowed that hogwash hook, line and sinker and indeed excuse the pitiable state of governance by it. How do we explain the fact that Buhari is the perceived enemy of state yet everytime a Boko Haram leader is caught, there is a connection to a PDP Senator? Why do SSS not capture BH in homes of CPC and ANPP chieftains? We need to start tasking our brains to reason a bit more. According to PISA, the world is getting to that stage when the instrument of trade will be more of intellectual than fiscal. I seriously wonder how we will fare then.
I doff my hat to 'critical' thinkers such as yourself. We are destined for mediocrity if the way Nigerians currently think and talk is anything to go by.
PoliticsRe: Osun Boosts Cattle Production With 10,000 Capacity Ranch by Gbawe: 10:59am On Oct 22, 2012
lacasa: "We won't need Fulani again"

"We won't need NigerDelta again"



Some posts here are just shallow
undecided
I agree. The focus should be on the creation of better/greater options for Nigeria and even a wider beneficial effect beyond our borders to improve the prospects of Africa. I seriously believe we should be that proactive, ambitious and innovative commensurate to our endowment.

With so much arable land, we should view agriculture as an area of utmost priority that can benefit the entire Nation and beyond.
PoliticsRe: Osun Boosts Cattle Production With 10,000 Capacity Ranch by Gbawe: 10:47am On Oct 22, 2012
mapet: @ Bros Gbawe,

NEVER TRUST POLITICIANS. What unites and divides them is INTEREST. You'll be shocked the next time you see Mimiko and Tinubu/Fayemi/Aregbesola etc working together for another objective....... my prayer is that provided it furthers the sustainable development requirements in south west.....we are all the same
My brother, believe me when I say I appreciate this more than most here.
PoliticsRe: Osun Boosts Cattle Production With 10,000 Capacity Ranch by Gbawe:
a1solution: Sometime ago there was a thread on Nairaland suggesting this ranch of a thing. Maybe the governor saw it and bought the idea.
No. This is why many insist "information is king". To even criticise/appraise others, you must be informed. There is a scientific approach that can be used for almost everything in life capable of making our efforts far more productive. Many Nairalanders don't seem to understand this concepts with how many want the freedom to speak ignorantly and accept no correction. We must first know the plans and pledges of administrators to then be able to hold them accountable.

What you see now is part of a comprehensive plan for agriculture in a deliberate effort to make Osun a State leveraging progress on it areas of competitive advantages and specific endowment such as agriculture, tourism et al. If many had made themselves aware of preliminary efforts, then this will not come as a surprise to the extent you can think this is an adhoc thing Aregbesola adopted from Nairaland.

Being informed critics is very important for our democracy and progress as it means we control our destiny better through checking administrative indolence and failure. Good governance involves the effort of everyone.

http://ondostatevoice.com/news/osun-state-aregbesola-opens-bilateral-talks-with-german-state-on-food-production-710.htm

Osun State: Aregbesola Opens Bilateral Talks With German State On Food Production

Governor Rauf Aregbesola of the State of Osun has opened discussions with the German state of Saxony Anhalt as part of the state’s determination to further boost its comprehensive agricultural programme.

Aregbesola, who led a delegation of top government functionaries saddled with the massive food production project of his administration to the talks which opened on Monday in Germany, has banishment of hunger as one of the six integral plans of his government.

A statement by the Director, Bureau of Communications and Strategy in the Office of the Governor, Mr. Semiu Okanlawon, said Aregbesola and his team left Nigeria Saturday night and arrived in Germany on Sunday for the discussions on bilateral relationship.

The statement also quoted the governor as reassuring the people of the state of determination of his administration to turn Osun to the food basket of the country.

The Governor of the State of Osun is the first governor from the African continent to be in Germany on the invitation of a German state governor known as Minister President for such bilateral talks.
The Agriculture Minister of the State of Saxony Anhalt, Dr. Hermanne Onko Aikens, is leading talks with Aregbesola on how the two states can explore areas of cooperation on agricultural investments in the state of Osun.

In company with the Governor of the state of Osun is the Commissioner for Agriculture and Food Security, Mr. Wale Adedoyin; Coordinator of the state’s Quick Impact Intervention Programme, Mr. Dele Ogundipe and others.

In November last year, Governor Aregbesola had led another delegation to Zambia on drive to establish abattoir-based massive beef production project in the state.

The beef production project, called O’Beef, has already commenced in the state with leading foreign experts in beef production training interested farmers on how to produce beef in a project aimed at ensuring high income from the venture.

To realise the objectives of the massive food production, the Aregbesola-led administration had set up the Osun Rural Enterprises Agricultural Programme and the QUIIP as part of the vehicles to drive the projects.


The two agencies had supervised massive agriculture land clearing, distribution of improved seedlings, fertilizers, and loans to farmers to aid their planting activities.

As part of the efforts to make agriculture attractive as well, the government has assured farmers of its readiness to transport their farm produce free of charge to large markets in Lagos through its memorandum of understanding with the Nigeria Railway Cooperation, (NRC).
PoliticsRe: Osun Boosts Cattle Production With 10,000 Capacity Ranch by Gbawe: 10:07am On Oct 22, 2012
geeez: Great move Aregbe.

I've always thought of this idea. Perfect
Indeed ... but you won't see many praising this inspired move that directly attempts to address the glaring and unacceptably appalling deficiency identified below. If it is to pay homage to negativity and proclaim "only Fashola is working" then we will be on page 10 now.

In Lagos alone, 6,000 cows are slaughtered daily and no state in South-West produces a single one. All these animals come from the North. We intend to target just 10 per cent of the Lagos market.”

For a start, the ranch, which is being managed by a South African expert in conjunction with IITA and Faculty of Agriculture, Obafemi Awolowo University, has 1,500 cattle sourced locally.
PoliticsRe: Osun Boosts Cattle Production With 10,000 Capacity Ranch by Gbawe: 9:53am On Oct 22, 2012
Ufeolorun: This takes us a tinsy little step closer to integration,Ondo would have been a cake walk if there were solid(ier)grin reasons.A wake up call,yesterday was.
Nice one, the state of Osun.
With Ondo, folks on all sides (ACN and LP) should 'bury the hatchet', forget the past and join hands to move the SW forward. The progress of the region should be bigger than the egos of individuals.
PoliticsRe: Osun Boosts Cattle Production With 10,000 Capacity Ranch by Gbawe: 9:43am On Oct 22, 2012
Demdem: O'beef. grin grin grin Wonderful.
Aregbe isnt doing bad at all
ACN governors are doing far better than those they replaced but this forum is the wrong place to mention that because folks enjoy revelling in ignorance, pessimism, negativity and ethnic hatred on Nairaland far more than any other Nigerian discussion forum I know.

This is the main Nigerian forum I know where people are always ignorantly asking to be shown things they can find themselves very easily. As if anyone is paid to be a 'teacher' here or to help folks dismiss ignorance/ethnic jingoism they seem to enjoy displaying with pride.
PoliticsRe: Osun Boosts Cattle Production With 10,000 Capacity Ranch by Gbawe: 8:23am On Oct 22, 2012
Aregbesola is certainly working purposefully. I especially like his welfarist and pro-people mien because that , in the short and medium term, is what will save Nigeria i.e responsibly spending the wealth of the Nation to develop Nigeria and Nigerians as a priority policy. The gradualism and pro-elitism of the FG will only make a journey of 10 years turn into one of 100 years.
PoliticsRe: Insight: Murky Deals Cast Doubt Over Nigeria's Power Sell-off by Gbawe:
[quote author=Ricky_Ross]The vodaphone Ghana deal is a bad example my brother. Most Ghanians are sad that the government didn't listen to the voice of the majority of Ghanaians.[/quote]When do Ghanaians not complain, over-dramatise and make a big thing of everything? Is this not how, according to some melodramatic Ghanaians, 9 out of 10 robbers in their Nation are Nigerian? Sometimes, perhaps it is best for outsiders to give them an insight regarding what they don't see. Ghanaians complain, others come in and 'crack on'.

I am someone who believes personal experience is very powerful to inform and 'calibrate' opinions. I have a House in Accra and my experience with Vodafone was very good. From demanding services to actually being connected. My wired telephone and broadband delivery are good and efficient. Technical assistance, when I had problems, was fairly prompt to respond and restore my services. That is what should matter. If other Ghanaians have similar experiences, then it is obvious that, beyond their complaints, the Country is communicating better because of Vodafone's efforts.

Today Vodaphone has sacked hundreds of workers, vodaphone is still sacking workers every month. Ghana Telecom was better, tell me one single SPECTACULAR thing vodaphone has done which Ghana Telecom didn't do?
My guy, many African Government parastatals are havens of nepotism, ghost workers and bloated inefficiency. Most Companies will actually 'trim' waste almost automatically if taking over and looking to be optimally efficient. Look at our NITEL, PHCN et al. Anyway, there will always be unhappy folks on every side of actions taken. If sacking folks aids legitimate cost-cutting, efficiency and productivity then I cannot just criticise that action for nothing other than how retrenching is generally perceived as condemnable and automatically bad. Let us not forget also that global conditions currently predisposes many to embrace "cost cutting".


Vodapohne paid million dollar bribe to MP's etc to take over Ghana Telecom, today all profits they make is repatriated to The United Kingdom.
I have already mentioned that there was controversy over Vodafone allegedly paying millions in bribe. The repatriation of profit is rather a complex issue in this day and age of global competitiveness. The argument can also apply to the many Nigerian businesses operating in Ghana.

My brother, it is certain not everyone will be happy with Vodafones takeover of telecoms services in Ghana. I hinted at this when I said some will not move beyond the rhetoric of "Ghanaians running Ghana". To be honest, this is not a bad thing when non-critical sectors is considered. When looking at the telecom sector, the Government may just feel running Ghana Telecom has become an issue of pride rather than that of economic sense, efficiency and the success Ghana wants for the future. The Story was the same with Ghana Air to the extent flyers , towards the horrid end, were being escorted off planes in the UK by armed escorts because of the massive debt the National airline had run up !!!!

I generally give things pass marks when they work well for the purposes they were designed for. Side issues aside, since those are open to subjective interpretation, I think Vodafone is more efficient and doing better than Ghana Telecom.
PoliticsRe: Insight: Murky Deals Cast Doubt Over Nigeria's Power Sell-off by Gbawe: 8:10pm On Oct 21, 2012
[quote author=Kilode?!]eGuerrilla, Your own opinion is very common also - the idea that we are strengthening a super-class elite that will answer to their own rules, even more than they already do now and by so doing bring our people more ruin, more economic oppression and concentrated poverty...[/quote]Precisely my opinion. Trying to justify the creation of ultra-wealthy Oligarchs by dressing greed in a toga of 'patriotism' is redundant for where the world is today and where it is heading ala global Village, fast shrinking borders, transfer of technology and greater ease of the competitive/profit-led movement of highly skilled and technical labour/enterprises. There are extremely critical sectors Nigerians must demand excellence in i.e power, refining derivative of crude, rail infrastructure et al. No distracting talk of "Nigeria in the hands of Nigerians" should blind us to what is obvious.

For example, I would not particularly favour Adenuga buying NITEL to become National carrier if he is up against British Telecoms or Vodafone because Nigerians communicating effectively and reliably , as an addition to the 'mix' that will make us great, is far more important than the intangible concept , only useful for chest-thumping, that a Nigerian Company is handling our telecoms needs.

We can even see how the extreme capitalistic greed of a few , currently playing out before our eyes, got the world in trouble in fairly well-regulated Nations. In Nigeria, with nil regulation, we want to sell the Nation into the hands of morally bankrupt AGIPs (any government in power) like Otedola?

If we learn from others proactively, we will be looking to ensure we put more power in the hands of businesses of excellence and sterling reputations as they will be unlikely to fail us. What should not be acceptable is for Otedola, Abdulsalami, IBB or any other members of the 'owners of Nigeria' club putting together a consortium yesterday, whenever there is a national 'sell-off' of any kind, that will begin 'winning' bids for critical concessions tomorrow. Even semi-ambitious Nations are not doing this any more !!!!

It makes me wonder if Nigeria is for real when this kind of nonsense is no longer even happening in Nations we talk/look down at. What happened in Russia will wreck us. No two ways about it in my opinion and I certainly hope I am wrong.
PoliticsRe: Insight: Murky Deals Cast Doubt Over Nigeria's Power Sell-off by Gbawe: 7:38pm On Oct 21, 2012
[quote author=ekt_bear]this is pretty bad[/quote]Indeed.... and highly definitive of the PDP. I.e sell off Nigeria's assets, critical to National success, to cronies and minions without even so much as a patriotic thought for securing competence along with the requisite and almost 'cultural' need, accepted in African politics, to enrich 'awon boys'.

In other African Nations, and I know this from experience, "awon boys' are increasingly becoming content making their money moderating greed with patriotism to the extent they are happy to limit their participation to 'midwifing' relatively safe aspect of critical concessioning while leaving the technical operation wholly to qualified and experienced operators. Vodafone in Ghana is an example I continue to cite.

Talks about the Ghanaian Government accepting millions of dollars to favour Vodafone won't go away but what is important is that Vodafone, certainly one of the world's top telecoms giants, was not cynically turned down for a front run by Jerry Rawlings or John Kuffour. Today this is all to the benefit of Ghana as vodafone has proven an able National carrier aiding Ghana's progress.

Creating an Oligarchy should not be an option for African Nation given our challenges that means we , more than most, must eschew redundant economic models of extreme capitalism , arguably discredited today, for greater institutional efficiency and accountability - even if it is others outside Africa who can help us achieve that.

We all know how critical the power sector is. Perhaps people now get what I mean when I predicted that "pseudo-privatisation" is what the PDP will deliver in many sectors. I still stand by my prediction that the usual Oligarchs (Otedola, Dangote et al) are future bid 'winners' whenever our Refineries will be privatised.
PoliticsRe: 'In Oyo, People Now Sleep With Their Two Eyes Closed' by Gbawe: 6:43pm On Oct 21, 2012
Paul John: ^^
It's a great testimony.
Gone are the days when you'll hear "Oyo this, Ibadan that". Crises every where, from killing to robbery plus NURTW wayo.

And I think it's getting neater and better last time I passed through Ibadan.
This is very true. I am still assessing Ajimobi but I must admit that Oyo is no longer about news of thuggery and mayhem as was the case under the PDP. This is what we keep saying to some here. There are no miracle workers or 'messiahs' amongst our leaders but a good starting point to begin the turn around of Nigeria would be the deployment of leaders with a proven track record and history of solutions provision. When this becomes the norm, Nigeria , gradually, will become OK and remain OK.
PoliticsRe: Mimiko Wins Ondo Gubernatorial Poll by Gbawe: 4:59pm On Oct 21, 2012
taharqa: Abeg where is Gbawe, Dayokanu, Ajalekoko and co? They hv bn usuali missing in action since yterday's night. I miss them a lot today o, lol.....hahahaha..
Are you mad? Look, I am getting fed-up of idiots like you who go around assassinating the characters of others with lies. I may support the ACN but I made it clear, on several occasion, that I am comfortable with Mimiko winning and remaining Governor because he seems to genuinely enjoy the backing of Ondo folks.

Read what I wrote before the election and never repeat your crap again. Many of you run around proclaiming me as blindly devoted to the ACN when my writing actually shows otherwise. It is not my fault reprobates like you , despite being shown otherwise many times, still confuse support for a Party to mean blind endorsement of everything to do with that Party. You must think I am a rabid and unrefined feudalist like you.


https://www.nairaland.com/999354/emperor-tinubu-akeredolu-says-mimiko/2

Gbawe wrote:
Guys, let us see the big picture. Mimiko has done well and he will probably get a second term to continue his efforts despite Akeredolu being a genuinely progressive candidate and the sort anyone would ordinarily want involved in SW politics at the highest level. Overall, events bode well for the political future of the SW. We need to look beyond the spat of politicians, itself an inevitable by-product of the "dirty game", and focus on why we all involved ourselves in political discussions in the first place i.e the desire to see the development of our States, regions and Nation. If Ondo is witnessing progress under Mimiko, then let that continue.

It is testimony to the positive changes becoming entrenched in the SW that we now see a performing Governor (Mimiko) challenged by a formidable opposition candidate in Akeredolu. The exchange of insults is partisan politics at work and ultimately not relevant enough, IMO, to obstruct from the positives going on here. Of utmost relevance to me is how this is not a battle between light and day , or Jesus and Satan, as was the case in the past. When you have great candidates facing each other, development and progress is the likely reward for the State - whoever wins. This is a situation we should all pray becomes the norm in Nigeria because Partisan politics is essentially a means to an end.
PoliticsRe: Why Do People Hate Bola Tinubu? by Gbawe:
demmie1: Tinubu's house is on the busy bourdillon road, and he receives visitors openly, his government created lastma, lawma and converted agberos to tax paying business, creating different means of poverty alleviation which helped Fashola's government to reduce armed robbery cases by 80% which is openly felt (compare lagos today to 10yrs ago). so if you want to ALUU him you know where he lives you don't need to wait on the road for a chance to.
My guy, this is the patent hypocrisy and blind disposition to hatred some forumers have no qualms displaying daily on NL. Why is it that characters like Billionaires are never the most vociferous in asking for their own direct leaders, impacting far more on their local existence, to be 'Aluud' for misruling and decimating their States and region?

Yet they focus hypocritically on the leaders of others , suggesting they should be 'aluud', every single day on NL while deliberately failing to talk of their own leader or, in some cases, even making excuses for their misrule!!!! Peter Obi, for essentially doing nothing, is defended blindly and irrationally here while Fashola is called "flower planter" by these Nairalanders indoctrinated and steeped in the blind hatred of others and partisan/hypocritical defence of their "own".

Tinubu is merely a Party boss with no Government role. Tell me how, in the reality of Nigeria, he deserves more hatred, more mention and attention than, for example, a sitting and misruling Governor ,like Theodore Orji, from the likes of Billionaire and others who hail from Orji's region.

It is not difficult to see what this so-called hatred of Tinubu consist of when it is people like Billionaire who are most vociferous in hunting Tinubu while never saying peep about the many woeful elected administrators currently messing up and looting their States and backyards. Silly hypocrites.
PoliticsRe: The Senator Hiding The Wanted Boko Haram Commander. (Premium Times Report) by Gbawe:
onatisi: thanks for stating ur points in a nice manner ,to some extent i think u are correct .although i am yet to see a better alternative to pdp.
My brother, I have nothing against your views. I will even admit that it is a viewpoint most Nigerians will adopt with time given that our leaders, from all Parties, have a propensity for stealing. Nonetheless, we still need to recognize those who make conciliatory efforts to aid development even when they fully subscribe to the current state of affairs that directs all those involved with politics to enrich themselves with the wealth of Nigeria.

Those folks are the ones who offer a window of opportunity for Nigeria to keep developing till evolution brings us the 'beautiful ones' and till political sophistication is uniform to the extent we can all control our leaders , in self-initiated acts of checks-and-balances, and not the other way round. The PDP will get us to that position far more slowly than others. It is a Party with policies steeped in gradualism, deleterious capitalism, elitism and oligarchic dominance far more than any other Political Party in Nigeria. Have you wondered why it is PDP stalwarts 'winning' bids in the ongoing Power privatization process?

My brother, are you not in Ghana to testify to how Vodafone is a decent National telecom carrier? Do you know that Vodafone tried to buy NITEL so as to become our National carrier and we rejected them because PDP leaders (precisely OBJ) preferred the model where cronies, even if they have no capacity or direct history of competence, control every sector generating continuous and massive income? Is this not what led to the subsidy scam?

My overall point is that democracy remains a journey rather than a destination. To that end 'players' will change and even gain new names but we must not take our eyes off characters who remain about crude greed they will stop at nothing to perpetuate their interest to the detriment of Nigeria 100%. When those characters reinvent themselves, as they feel they must do to continue thriving, we should recognize this and deny them the platform to continue their brand of politics that revolves around taking 100% and giving 0% back . The PDP , policy, ideology and personnel wise, is simply the worst Party to oversee Nigeria at the center.
PoliticsRe: The Senator Hiding The Wanted Boko Haram Commander. (Premium Times Report) by Gbawe: 12:07pm On Oct 21, 2012
onatisi: my guy ,pdp isnt nigeria problem,it is just a symptom of the real problem,it is like someone having malaria and u feel once the headache is cured the malaria is gone,even if pdp is removed today this main problem will still be there.i want you to understand that the northern politicians using bh against this goverment are not pdp based alone,this issue of bh resurfaced with power immidiately gej decided to contest,this is a northern politicians war agaisnt this goverment.ok the best way to solve all these problems is by all regions and ethnic groups meeting and discussing how this nation should be or exist.during the time of obj it was niger delta ,now bh ,if gej or pdp leave believe another problem from another region will surface ,already the issue of fulani killing christians is gathering storm but ppl arent looking at it .the problem of bh has its deep root in the wrong structural and political setup of this country.
Man mi, research history well and put two and two together. You will see that the PDP is one of Nigeria's biggest problem. No one will tell you others won't loot and steal because looting and stealing is very much a part of our politics for now and transcends Party Politics.

The point we continue to make to folks like you is that Nigeria will record greater progress under all other parties but the PDP simply because of how the PDP specifically recruits the worst in the land who have zero conscience and have no qualms with stealing every single kobo and not giving anything back. It is what the military/armed forces ruling class were known for.

IBB, for example, institutionalized corruption !!!!! Him and others (OBJ, Anenih et al) who typify such excesses are in the PDP and leading, or attempting to lead, by proxy through their minions and stooges. Even recently, we saw Anenih support a man from the barracks when him and his Party, if interested in the progress of Edo, should accept we are in an age where you must support the most talented in the land. despite his faults, we see Tinubu doing this in the SW !!!!!

Meanwhile, in the SW, and despite leaving mediocrities everywhere, We still saw OBJ unrepentantly offer Olurin, a military 'relic', when others settled for technocrats in Ogun State. These things are not accidental. they are the results of the overarching principles of those who control the PDP and wish the Party remains a platform for looting with nothing at all given back to Nigerians.

Whether people like you see it or not, National life , pertaining to the progress of nations, is about "the lesser devil" or working with the best 'imperfect tool' available till evolution delivers the enshrinement of ordered systems that secure progress and that everyone must fall under. If you study the history of many Western Nation, you will easily note what I am telling you to be the truth and almost a scientific chronology.
PoliticsRe: The Senator Hiding The Wanted Boko Haram Commander. (Premium Times Report) by Gbawe:
[quote author=ndu_chucks]Many of you NLers will be rotting in prison, if you are convicted solely because your niece, nephew, or other close relative is convicted of a major crime. Lets stop being hypocritical.

The suspected BH member has not yet been charged of any crime, but you fools have already charged, tried, and convicted both him and his Uncle. If the authorities know that the man is a BH member, one would have thought that they are in possession of intelligence linking the man to BH and more importantly, linking the senator to BH.

I find the fact that they have not arrested the Senator quite telling. You people should use your brains for once.[/quote]Look, stop this nonsense and stop insulting others. Of course people will speak emotionally if a serving politician has links with an alleged terrorist. You cannot arrogantly come here in flippancy when this concerns the same Nation where Ndume is on bail and travelling the world while facing charges of terrorism. Me and you know this is not what obtains elsewhere even if you want to pretend otherwise. Ndume will be remanded in custody in 99% of the world's Nations because of the risk that further activities/travel can endanger the lives of Nigerians.

Nigerians all saw how events were swept under the carpet when a prominent terror suspect was allegedly arrested in Governor Shettima's official lodge. He denied complicity also as this Senator is doing. He was never arrested as this Senator has not been arrested so your assertion of "the fact that they have not arrested the Senator quite telling" means absolutely nothing. GEJ confessed his Government has been infiltrated by Boko Haram but not a single one of them has been arrested to date !!!!! These 'non-arrest' owe more to how GEJ is totally compromised to the point of incompetence than to anything else and certainly not your thinking that folks are not arrested because they are innocent.

Nigerians have all rights to be suspicious and scathing. Perhaps if the Government showed more sincerity, now and then, and delivered justice then Nigerians will quit jumping to conclusions. As it is, all folks can see is a Government in bed with and abetting terrorism with it's inaction. Who has then encouraged Nigerians to judge suspects if not the Government that is incapable, till today, of delivering justice against even a single sponsor of terror when the government supposedly knows who these folks are?
PoliticsRe: The Senator Hiding The Wanted Boko Haram Commander. (Premium Times Report) by Gbawe:
Wadeoye: You are an slowpoke if you don't know that politicians (pdp precisely of which the president is a xtian) are behind this. Jonathan has a lot of questions to answer with all these PDP guys being linked to BK. how many of the bk boys and the sponsors arrested have been prosecuted by this government? ndume, Kabiru Sokoto, etc. Key Boko guys are always arrested in either a PDP governor's or senator's house. Who is terrorizing who in Nigeria? This is not a religious way - it is a political war aimed at keeping this country in the hand of PDP. Use your head beforeitnis too late.
Thank you !!!! Even non-Nigerians ( the USA precisely) have identified what the PDP is. The most cruel, most murderous military dictators and 'Uniformed' men (IBB, OBJ, Danjuma, Anenih et al) are members of the PDP. Their brutal legacy, revolving around utilising the concept of "might is right", as a tool of control, is still alive and thriving today. Wherever the PDP exists, you will also see a readiness to scorn technocrats, decent, moderate and upright men in preference for engaging and utilising the most murderous,most thuggish and most feared in the land.

No one is saying other Parties are full of saints. Rather, it is the PDP that has no qualms visiting death, destruction and mayhem on Nigerians. This is because, in the first instance, the Party deliberately set out to recruit the most evil in the land capable of cowering others to maintain advantages that facilitates efforts to corner the Nation's wealth for a few.

This is what is now haunting the PDP where one arm won't let another work or know peace. Did Odili too not turn to militancy, murder and mayhem when it suited his political agenda? Look at even the President. He has the chance to 'rebuild' the SS using the most talented, most upright and most intelligent. Instead he is empowering militants and those who only understand the concept of using violence and death to get their ways !!!

What then leads this foolish desire of some to now talk as if every Northerner is a terrorist rather than for them, given all the real examples we have, to recognise the truth of how it is the PDP that deliberately recruits the most evil and most murderous in the land from all regions?


It is only tragic that non-Nigerian policy analysts and observers have displayed far more knowledge and depth of perception as per what is really going on in our Nation than many Nigerians who remain too sentimental, plus divided and conquered, to understand that the PDP is essentially a civilian continuation of the evil mindset of the brutes who were in our military/armed forces and have simply changed their 'toga' from uniform and boots to Abgada and fine Italian loafers to maintain their control of Nigeria's commonwealth.
PoliticsRe: The Senator Hiding The Wanted Boko Haram Commander. (Premium Times Report) by Gbawe: 10:44am On Oct 21, 2012
onatisi: dream,dreams.
but let me ask you if you kick pdp out of power which party do you want there?acn abi?
so you think acn or other parties are better than pdp?
you dont understand nigeria at all ,whether u like it or not all politicians in nigeria are the same irrespective of any party dont believe in ur mind that there is one of them that has ur interest at heart.
and in the case of this senator ,all this stories are just mere speculations ,why dont u wait for an official confirmation,i have learnt some few lessons from these so called online news agencies .
I really don't understand why this so-called 'information age' seems to be bypassing Africans. Look, you can search for information in seconds that makes issues clear instead of touting the lazy 'stories are just mere speculations' defence.

The Senator in question has already admitted that this alleged "commander" of Boko Haram is his Sister's son!!! Every sensible person know that this is probable ground for viewing him with suspicion - especially when it is claimed the suspect was arrested on Damboa Road which is an elitist enclave his Senator Uncle resides in. I wonder why black folks don't simply read more to become as informed as possible in an age when the saying "information is power" is more true than ever.

As for your "all Politicians are the same" talk, I can only tell you to stop fooling yourself. For Nigeria, and for where we are, it is 100% about the "lesser devil" till evolution intervenes to give us the 'beautiful ones'. In that regard, the entire world, even beyond Nigeria, acknowledge the PDP to be a congregation of opportunists who believe in using terror and might, more than others, to get their way. You can pretend not to see this but many real example bear this out. Whether it is militancy, terrorism, thuggery and embedding gangster culture in politics, the PDP leads.

http://saharareporters.com/news-page/senator-zanna-says-boko-haram-commander-not-arrested-his-home-admits-bama-nephew

Senator Zanna Says Boko Haram Commander Not Arrested In His Home; Admits Bama Is Nephew
Posted: October 20, 2012 - 15:55

Senator Khalifa Zanna
By SaharaReporters, New York
Senator Ahmed Khalifa Zanna of the Borno Central Senatorial District has denied that suspected Boko Haram top commander Mohammed Shuaibu Bama was arrested in his Damboa Road home, in Maiduguri’s GRA.

Speaking to newsmen in a telephone interview, Zanna confirmed that the suspect is his nephew, but asserted that there was nothing more than that. He said he was not harbouring Bama and that the suspect was not actually arrested in his home.

He challenged security agents, whom he accused of harassing and beating children in his house yesterday, to go and investigate the man’s relationship with the people in whose home he was arrested.

“They said they arrested the man in the house of a lawmaker in Damboa Road, and there is no any lawmaker in Damboa Road except me,” he said. “They did not arrest him in my house, they went to my house but did not find him, and instead they arrested children in my house and put them inside hot sun and started beating them. And they asked them whether they know Shuaibu Bama, and one of the boys answered yes. He then took them to where they arrest Shuaibu Bama.”

On his relationship with the suspect, he answered, “Shuaibu Bama is a son of my sister. But the lie is what they are saying that they arrested him in my house, which is lie. And we cannot hide or harbour a Boko Haram sect member. And since he was not arrested in my house, they should go and investigate his relationship with people they arrested him in their house. I don’t know anything about it and just heard yesterday.”
PoliticsRe: Chukwumerije Hails Osun’s Education Policies. by Gbawe(op): 9:16am On Oct 21, 2012
[quote author=one_man]Are you telling me that the new school buildings are policies, the laptops and the new uniforms are policies? Go to PH and see the policy physically on ground.[/quote]How can policies get more 'physical' and on the ground than , for example, feeding and nourishing students? I don't know why we Nigerians now hate each other to the extent everything has to be about competition and who/what is 'better'.

We cannot just simply give credit where due regardless of who is involved. You guys come here distractingly mentioning Kano, Port Harcourt et al. Is Chukwumerije, as Chairman of the Senate committee on education, a fool or less knowledgeable or less exposed than you 'Einsteins'? Is it not his job to note what is going on, in the entire Nation, regarding the education sector? Is it you and others who are statistically, officially and financially empowered to do Chukwumerije's job?

After all is said and done, is it not likely, for a reasonable person at least, that Chukwumerije will be better exposed and more informed than most of us about the education sector? Aregbesola speaks sequel to Chukwumerije's visit and after the student protests. Folks like you should simply read what is submitted dispassionately instead of talking arrogantly as if you know better than others. Chukwumerije knows his people (Nigerians) very well and this is why he advised all to "drop their ego" and emulate what is worth commending.

http://www.osundefender.org/?p=45999

‘We Have Revolutionalised Osun’ – Aregbesola

Culled from Tribune Interview Headlined ‘A Frank, Firm And Fearless Governor Explains…’

…What we have now is misinformation and mischief in governance. When government makes a decision, it has to pass through some procedure, unless it is emergency, which would make it compulsory to shun all the procedures. We are working on it and we have to compute the figures, which is up to N216m. The budget for the year was around N100 billion or thereabout. You just don’t spend government money anyhow; you must get appropriation for all expenditures. The House of Assembly must give legal power and that is what we call appropriation. We needed the House to get approval for the N216m.And that is what we are processing and we kept on and they felt agitated because of their exuberance.

The only thing I want to advise is that in the exercise of your rights and expression, please be mindful of the rights of others that must not be infringed upon. That is what will help me. As civilized men and women, we must be conscious of our rights and privileges as we are conscious of the rights of others. Any insult or denigration to my person has no meaning. As we all exhibit the maturity required in understanding the rights of others, I never saw anything there. Yesterday (Tuesday, October 9), the students were unruly. But I want to engage them and educate them that bursary is not a right but a privilege that we, as conscious leaders, know must be given as an extension of support to their quest for education. I am in agreement that if you cannot give absolute free education because of our circumstances, there is need to provide support for our students. Strangely yesterday, an interesting irony played itself out.

Just before I came here, I received the Senate Committee on Education led by its chairman, Comrade Uche Chukwumerije, who had come for oversight visits to all Federal Government education interventions. The report of the committee indicated that no state has educational programme and policy compared to our own. That was the summary of their comments.


[b]We are the only state today, providing nutritious meals for over 200,000 pupils in primary 1 to 4 everyday in Nigeria. This is gulping N3billion every school session. We are the only government making efforts to get school uniforms for about 750,000 students. No government has ever attempted such in history, whether during the British colonial rule or now that we have attained independence. I would go down in history as the only government planning to give electronic learning tablets to senior secondary school students of about 150,000. I want to play it down because we are still in the formative stage; I pray it works finally. I want to develop new state-of-the-art basic infrastructure, buildings and furniture for 21 high schools, each of them with the capacity to accommodate 3,000 students, sporting facilities and other recreational structures that will make learning meaningful. It includes buildings of 50 middle schools, with capacity of 1,000 students, properly equipped and 100 elementary schools for 100,000 pupils. It does not mean that these would address all the needs, but I would have set in motion an irreversible system that would make education effective, functional and attractive to both the students and parents.[/b]

Education is the development of fully grooming a citizen, such that he or she can independently live a productive life in the society and that is our goal. When you put all these together and you contrast it with what happened yesterday, you will wonder that are we really educating anybody?

Other socio-economic interventions on roads and drainage and hospitals, they ought to be affected by these, which also affect them from the education point of view. When I was in schools, we proudly used the students’ union facilities on campuses for our activities. Students willingly support deductions from their student union grants to purchase vehicles. Where would I have the money, with all that I have explained, for any frivolity? I therefore don’t see any justification for their protest. What I am waiting for is a meeting, dialogue and let us see where we have erred. Is it in unilaterally increasing their bursary allowance? Is it in expanding the coverage of the bursary or seeking the legitimate mandate to get the money? Where did we go wrong?

Some people are instigating them. Before our advent, some actions that are not quite appropriate might have been the order of the day. There is no way that N2,000 can be the basis for violent agitation. The cost of movement within the state thoroughly defeats those efforts. It totally discount the possibility of some manipulations of the inadequate provision before now, because what I found out was that half of what was released before my advent in June, 2010, had not been paid to the students. What that tells you simply is that they had enacted a strict control that would not even allow easy access to that money. Half of what was approved for release before we came on board had not been collected. Don’t forget that this bursary was meant for final year students. Final students in 2010 would no longer be students in 2012. That was what led the Pandora’s Box about this bursary thing. The agitation is not for bursary; rather, it was for the arrangement that was in existence before the advent of Ogbeni as the governor of Osun State. I hope I have answered your question.

Sir that particular question you have just answered leads us to another. Two years in the saddle, you came in with a lot of expectations and when you juxtaposed that with the realities on the ground now, how do you feel?
I feel fulfilled. Is it that I have changed the attitude of teachers? That is my Deputy Governor, who doubles as the Commissioner for Education. Maybe she should take over from here.
PoliticsRe: The Senator Hiding The Wanted Boko Haram Commander. (Premium Times Report) by Gbawe: 8:11am On Oct 21, 2012
esteemedconcept: Wat d Bleep does PDP has to do wit dis? It is ur likes in the North who has sworn dat Nigeria will not be at Peace just because a Niger Deltan Became a President for d 1st time after 52yrs of independence.. And a lot of people can't even see dis.. ₪ø̲̣̣ part of Nigeria was born to rule, if you tink ur born to rule, go and rule ur village.. Nonsense
This is the problem with some Nigerians. Totally over-emotional creatures driven by religious/ethnic/sectional bias. Rant about "born to rule" all you want but the Senator identified is indeed PDP. That makes this issue "to do" with the PDP. It has long been noted , home and abroad, that the PDP, throughout all of Nigeria, recruits the most murderous elements as members. This is why Wole Soyinka dubbed the Party " a nest of killers". He was not thinking of Northern/Muslim sponsors of terrorism alone when he made that statement even if folks like you cannot discern this because everything is about ethnicity and religion for you.

Whether the rift is about who should 'rule', empowering/enriching militants in the ND(Odili),deifying illiterate gangsters (Adedibu et al) in the SW or what projects should be carried out, one can always count on the PDP to have members ready to operate with the most murderous zeal in every region of Nigeria. If you don't discern this trend throughout Nigeria, then you are nothing but a religious/ethnic bigot.
PoliticsRe: Video Of Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Dancing by Gbawe: 7:29am On Oct 21, 2012
The woman is just socialising and enjoying herself as she is allowed to do. Why are many of you just keen to show you are frustrated and bitter folks who cannot even accord others the privilege of a private life separate from their day job you want them judged for every second of the day to include when 'off the clock'?
PoliticsRe: The Senator Hiding The Wanted Boko Haram Commander. (Premium Times Report) by Gbawe: 2:34pm On Oct 20, 2012
scholes23: If this is true, does this bring an end to all the killings and bomb blasts?
No. In fact it reveals the scary scale of the problem. I.e a ruling Party full of the real sponsors of terrorism who are afforded the luxury of pretending to condemn and fight terrorism.
PoliticsRe: The Senator Hiding The Wanted Boko Haram Commander. (Premium Times Report) by Gbawe: 12:10pm On Oct 20, 2012
PoliticsRe: Fashola, Obi Disagree On Geo-political Zones, Constitutional Amendment by Gbawe: 11:44am On Oct 20, 2012
[quote author=sweet_gala]Any constitution should address the cost of running the government. The presidency, judiciary and the legislators
How long would 75% of our annual wealth/debt be dedicated to servicing their greed. Yet they loot part of the remaining 25% .
What is left for our development,irrespective of What state you hail from that is a bad deal for US THE NIGERIANS .
The schools, roads and public institutions are in a dilapidated state.[/quote]While your point is a very good one, i.e unrealistically high recurrent expenditure impeding the progress of Nigeria, the constitution cannot address it because issues of recurrent and capital spending will always remain susceptible to macroeconomic realities that a constitution must not attempt to predict. Recurrent expenditure will always therefore be discretionary according to the budgetary/fiscal policies of the Government of the day which in turn , and in theory, remains fluid in relation to current economic realities.
PoliticsRe: The Senator Hiding The Wanted Boko Haram Commander. (Premium Times Report) by Gbawe: 11:12am On Oct 20, 2012
PDP. "Nest of killers". Surprise, suprise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Zanna

Khalifa Ahmed Zanna is a Nigerian politician who was elected Senator for Borno Central, in Borno State, in the 9 April 2011 national elections at the age of 55. He was elected on the People's Democratic Party (PDP) platform.[1]
PoliticsRe: Fashola, Obi Disagree On Geo-political Zones, Constitutional Amendment by Gbawe: 10:50am On Oct 20, 2012
[quote author=ndu_chucks]Nigerians should shun sentiments and look at the record and history of the candidate before voting in 2015 so that they will make the best choice. We all know this fact and we have known this for generations.

The question is, how do you make the electorate do sgun sentiments and do what we all know could resolve the problem? [/b]That is where the real solution lies and you have not provided that solution. You are naive if you believe, as you stated above that [b]it is very simple.[/quote]Look, you miss what is obvious. Starting with your own responsibility as an individual. Nigerians will not all become politically astute and sophisticated overnight. Core mentality has to be changed by those, even if a small minority, capable of critical thinking. This may be even only 2% of a population - but that can be enough if that small number of individuals are patriotic and effective. What is important is that they do not shirk their responsibility. It boils down to how every medium should be used. I will explain.

Nairaland, for example, should be used to bring politicians who are doing well to prominence and promote/support their chances of gaining the most important job in the land. Yet that is not the case. The owner, most likely educated, wants 'traffic'. The forumers, majority well-educated, want e-fights and a chance to pontificate over ethnic superiority, redundant history and finger-pointing. The result is that this forum , when it should, will likely not play any positive role whatsoever to influence the emergence of a good President in 2015. We will then all begin to lament after IBB, OBJ, Anenih et al have chosen for us and 419ned us with another stooge.

It is the case everywhere else. Therefore, the brightest and most committed in the land can only continue to remain steadfast in their efforts and call to make Nigeria a Nation where merit and ability is king and then hope evolution bring others 'up to speed' ASAP. There is no radical change or solution to be proposed beyond a harmonised effort to make Nigerians see that that everything begins with shunning sentiments and bias to vote in the right President with a proven record and history of delivering solutions.
PoliticsRe: Fashola, Obi Disagree On Geo-political Zones, Constitutional Amendment by Gbawe: 10:09am On Oct 20, 2012
[quote author=ndu_chucks]You have nicely pointed out the fundamental problems which make Nigerians their own worst enemies. Most people know what these problems are and this thread is full of ideas regarding what needs to be done. Given everything you've described, would you be kind enough to itemize how we go about resolving these problems, if you are able to do so?

Pointing out our problems and the reasons why we have them without suggesting non theoretical solutions or practical ones, in my mind, adds no value to the discussion whatsoever.

What are the solutions and how do we implement them effectively, and in the near future?[/quote]Look, it is very simple. There is no equivocation in what I write unless you want to pretend otherwise. It is clear I have suggested 'non theoretical solutions' that you miss for whatever reason is motivating your continuous input here. When the Presidential elections of 2015 is upon us, Nigerians should shun sentiments to look at the record and history of candidates. They should rise above sentiments and vote using solid premises. It is not a difficult concept. The "solutions" begin and end with the Presidency.

That is what Nigeria has been bastardized to be currently. I.e a nation where lack of institutional uprightness and a dearth of checks and balances means one single man can uplift or regress a nation with his talent or mediocrity respectively. We must deal with that reality. If we are then a Nation where intellect is pragmatic and not only academic, with a bent towards solutions provision, we will realise that getting the right President is almost entirely the most important consideration above everything else right now. It is how other African Nations, previously in our situation, made and sustained progress.
PoliticsRe: Fashola, Obi Disagree On Geo-political Zones, Constitutional Amendment by Gbawe: 9:30am On Oct 20, 2012
kunlekunle: without a clear and defined personal ideology, conviction and knowing self, no one can be a true leader.
most of our leaders are half baked politicians (pocketicians) that seek to satisfy themselves (they have gluttonic appetite)
Indeed .... and Oby Ezekwesili makes my point by citing Botswana as an example where inspired leadership turned things around for the majority. The ball remains in the court of the Nigerian people. We have to shun sentiments and support leaders based on their record and history. As simple as that. It is the only way out of the mess we are in.

Frankly, the reality (getting Nigerians to rise above sentiment and bias) will be difficult because 'divide-and-conquer' has worked too well on Nigerians. That is even evident on this thread where, rather than simply read and comprehend, many ran with and spoke according to the notion that there is a rift between Fashola and Obi. This thread, for some, was prosecuted in the spirit of " I must side with someone". That is indicative of the fundamental problems which will continue to make Nigerians their own worst enemies.

http://blueprintng.com/2012/10/replicating-the-botswana-example-in-nigeria/

Replicating the Botswana example in Nigeria
Lawal Sabo Ibrahim | Oct 19, 2012 | 0 comments



https://blueprintng.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Alex-Ekwueme-Anyim.jpg
From left: Secretary to the Federal Government, Anyim Pius Anyim who represented President Goodluck Jonathan, former Head of State, General Yakubu Gowon, and former Vice President, Alex Ekuweme, during the International Colloquium as part of activities marking the 80th birthday of Dr Ekuweme in Abuja yesterday


Last Tuesday, eminent Nigerians gathered at the Thisday Dome in Abuja for an international colloquium in honour of former Vice President, Dr. Alex Ekwueme, who marked his 80th birthday. LAWAL SABO IBRAHIM rehashes some of the comments made there

The international colloquium with the theme: “Nigerian Federalism: Building on the Ekwueme legacy,” according to its organising committee, was “designed to celebrate the legacies of Chief Dr. Alex Ekwueme as a patriot and visionary leader.”

The caption of this write-up was the apt question one of the panelists at the event, former vice president of the World Bank, Dr. Oby Ezekwesili asked, and which attracted diverse reactions. According to her, Nigeria’s problem is more of incompetent people in positions, just as she stressed that the massacre of students at both Mubi and Port Harcourt remains a challenge to us as a nation.

The former minister of Education further said that Botswana, a ‘tiny’ Southern African country, recently honoured two of its former leaders for changing the nation from one which used to rely solely on foreign aid to the second most developing in Africa. She noted that this was as a result of the efforts of those leaders in utilising the nation’s new discovery-diamond, just as Nigeria discovered oil much earlier. She then asked that if Botswana could achieve what it did, why not Nigeria?
PoliticsRe: Fashola, Obi Disagree On Geo-political Zones, Constitutional Amendment by Gbawe:
Standing5: The more you guy discuss this topic the more hopeless our situation looks . . . what we need to wake up and step out of our current limit, to me, is revolution. No more control of the south by the north, no more routine corrupt practices anywhere, no more shifting of the goal post.
Realistically, 'revolution' may be unlikely for now. I don't rule it out in future but it is now obvious the 'cohesion' to make it happen may be lacking. I have not come across a group of people more 'divided and conquered' than Nigerians in my travels. There is absolutely no unity amongst us and the spirit of nationhood, which makes man rise above sentiment and ethnic/racial/sectional/religious bias, is now essentially destroyed. Currently, the Nigerian is probably his own worst enemy. Levels of in-fighting is high and self-defeating to the extent solutions are not forthcoming.

The problem is that we spend too much time trying to re-invent the wheel and over-intellectualising things that are very simple. We have examples of Nations who were in our shoes with nepotism, cronyism, corruption, oligarch-style greed and lack of patriotism delivering insecurity, poverty, demise of the middle class, asphyxiation of SMEs, moribund institutions, poverty and an all round rotten experience for the majority.

We need to look at how others , previously in the same position we are in today, turned things around. We then note the factors that are common , in these 'case studies', to understand the non-negotiable and sine qua non considerations we must implement in Nigeria. There has to be an awareness that practical solutions ,predicated on real and solid examples, is a veritable template. Working with that mentality, aligned with a pragmatic acceptance of what large swathes of Africa happen to be beyond rhetoric, it is rather obvious what we need to do. Everything begins with ordinary Nigerians and not leaders who are actually our servant if everyone understands the dynamics of democracy.

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