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vaxx:
You are dumb like your fellow Nigeria, he hasn't visit Nigeria on at kind of negotiation on either your border closure or your subsidy removal . That is what I ask you , if has visit Nigeria based in above reasons.

Are you a comedian?😂

The two heads of state met face-to-face on January 19 to discuss the partial reopening of the border between Benin and Nigeria. Patrice Talon made a proposal to Muhammadu Buhari to install Nigerian customs police at Benin’s port. Buhari in turn expressed his displeasure at the return of smuggling across the border.

vaxx:
Hopefully , you are aware Nigeria inflation has jump from its initial figure . Nigeria is currently facing an inflation crisis . You will begin to see the effect in the next 3 to six month depending on how Tinubu can managed it .


Benin govt are likely to benefit more from Tinubu subsidy removals , I have given you the clue . People will buy from filling station now instead of the usual Nigeria oil available in black market. Largely this business are even made available by nigerian buisness men .

Oh gosh. So why were the Beninoise buying from black market previously if they could just buy from filling station?

Luzebox:
it is our fuel subsidy removal .. we should feel the effect... But these are foreigners in their country. complaining about something we did to our country... are u mentally unstable 🤣🤣🤣... Or u just have a low IQ

I think they are just catching cruise comparing apples with oranges when they know they have no point.

If you tell them, Nigeria closed her borders to stop Benin Republic from continuous smuggling of rice and other 42 banned items to Nigeria from the Benin borders as well as for security purposes, however far away Ghana felt it so hard that they kept whining for several months and even had to report us to London at a time,

The Ghanaian here replies with: But we closed Nigerian shops in Ghana and Nigerians in Ghana felt the pain, so 1-1.

You begin to wonder how both cases relate 😄.

You tell them: Nigeria removed fuel subsidy and Benin Republic have been affected badly.

The Ghanaian replies with: But Nigeria was affected too 😂.

And you're like: Of course it's Nigeria's subsidy you clown 😄. They are the only ones who should be affected in the first place.

Even the Kenyans here never argued this way 😄

vaxx:
Go and study whom Talon is . Have you heard him coming to Nigeria since he become president of Benin republic? I gave you a fact yesterday, Benin republic govt are more likely to benefit from Tinubu announcement. It will forced beninoire to buy from fuel from legal filling station since there will be no black market to trade again. Revenue are likely to increased with more sales therefore increasing employment opportunity for filling station attendee and govt pulse as well

Why should we bother if Talon visits Nigeria or not? Benin has more to gain from us than the other way round. Besides you are wrong, he has visited Nigeria. You simply don't know what you are talking about most times.

vaxx:
Go and study whom Talon is . Have you heard him coming to Nigeria since he become president of Benin republic? I gave you a fact yesterday, Benin republic govt are more likely to benefit from Tinubu announcement. It will forced beninoire to buy from fuel from legal filling station since there will be no black market to trade again. Revenue are likely to increased with more sales therefore increasing employment opportunity for filling station attendee and govt pulse as well

Who is Talon? Is he the African Putin? Why should I care about who he is?

I gave you a fact yesterday, Benin republic govt are more likely to benefit from Tinubu announcement. It will forced beninoire to buy from fuel from legal filling station since there will be no black market to trade again. Revenue are likely to increased with more sales therefore increasing employment opportunity for filling station attendee and govt pulse as well.

Except that Benin Republic is also a largely informal economy like Nigeria. They are affected as much as Nigeria because the majority preffered cheap fuel for their business. Now inflation would also skyrocket.

vaxx:
Bullshit . Yoruba are native to Benin republic , they are not foreigner ( a whole port Novo is for them ) that is ajase, the administrative and seat of govt.


Wherever you get you key of agenda is what I don't know , reshuffle of govt can happen anytime. Benin republic is likely to benefit from the subsidy than Nigeria govt , the citizen's will be forced to buy from fuel station instead of black market, therefore increasing tax revenue and increasing job prospects fo the citizen's. It is also to note that Benin republic buys most of her fuel from Algeria .


Talon didn't engaged buhari during the border closure , what give you the idea he will engaged Tinubu now for subsidy removal when his govt is more likely to benefit .

"Whether coincidence or not, Beninese President Patrice Talon recently dismissed his foreign affairs minister, replacing him with Shegun Bakari, a Beninese entrepreneur who is of the same Yoruba ethnicity as Tinubu, and who observers say is "close" to his inner circle".

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20230616-benin-feels-the-pinch-as-neighbouring-nigeria-ends-fuel-subsidies

vaxx:
Bullshit . Yoruba are native to Benin republic , they are not foreigner ( a whole port Novo is for them ) that is ajase, the administrative and seat of govt.


Wherever you get you key of agenda is what I don't know , reshuffle of govt can happen anytime. Benin republic is likely to benefit from the subsidy than Nigeria govt , the citizen's will be forced to buy from fuel station instead of black market, therefore increasing tax revenue and increasing job prospects fo the citizen's. It is also to note that Benin republic buys most of her fuel from Algeria .


Talon didn't engaged buhari during the border closure , what give you the idea he will engaged Tinubu now for subsidy removal when his govt is more likely to benefit .

Learn to stay out of what you know little about.

No longer at ease at neighbours’ doorsteps

Our reporters learnt that petroleum products are being sold at CFA700 or CFA 800 in Benin Republic, nearly double the previous price, CFA 450.

The development lends credence to reports that a significant volume of Nigeria’s subsidised petroleum products were being smuggled into other African countries.

The chief executive officer of the Nigerian National Petroleum Company (NNPC) Limited, Mele Kyari, in a media interview said, “We know how much we supply. There is data on this. Is all of this consumed in the country? The answer is no. The reason is very simple. We have an arbitrage environment. For instance, before this decision we made, fuel sold at N185 in Abuja, but just across your border, there is nowhere you would have prices that are lower than N500 per litre.

“None of the countries around us imports petroleum products, and you can’t do something about it because there is an arbitrage environment we have created. We have 4,500km of land borders and you don’t have all the resources to man them,” he said.

Benin republic sacks foreign minister, replaces with a Yoruba speaking Beninoise (from Yoruba origin).

"Key on the agenda of the new foreign minister is to establish strong ties with other West African countries especially Nigeria and Togo".

...Effect of fuel subsidy removal. They had to put a Yoruba man to relate well with Tinubu.

Obaaderemi2:
Did they? Uh, no one noticed. What i remember was that they threw a big tantrum and closed down poor igbo people's shops in Accra.

After COVID, it seems they closed the border longer than necessary and no one noticed.

vankelvin:
You call that closed borders?

We all await a time where Ghana will get a President with Koffi Abrefa Bussia's kind of mentality. You close your borders for 1 week we will also close ours for 2 weeks and we shall see who that affects the most

Lol 😄😄

Small nyash dey sabi shake sha.

vankelvin:
And we are telling you that was a stupid decision . Only a mega zoo will do that

Do you know the number of trucks that travel from other West African countries to Ghana, Nigeria or any other country?

If your country had no ill intensions why would they not alert countries beyond Benin to seize operations?
You closed your borders just like that when trucks from Ghana and beyond had already set of to Nigeria and vice versa?

Know this and know peace, no sane country does what your country did. If Ghana wants to close borders to any country we will let them know so all trucks coming to Ghana will advise themselves. It's called Diplomacy something your country lacks
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You closed your borders too later on or didn't you?

Just40:
because that what the data said, the last time I checked. Talking sense into your leaders head is necessary so they can behave sanely and that's not crying.

Plus causing loss to private businesses will require govt intervention.

Where is the data?

Just40:
It became Ghana's problem the moment you stopped allowing Ghanaian goods in transit from passing.

Explain how the Ghanaian economy is dependent on 50 million dollars trade. 🤣😂 You caused unnecessary losses to companies in Ghana for which political authorities had to take action.

Where did you hear the Ghanaian economy being in trouble again? Play dey your eye top er? 😂🤣

How do you know it's 50 million dollars trade? If it's just 50 million dollars trade, you guys wouldn't have cried that long and so hard.
You even retaliated in 2021, but I didn't see it making news in Nigeria.

Just40:
Well for Nigeria, everything goes for ego building.


When ever Ghana wants to close it western boarder, it notifies Ivory Coast just so they are not unnecessarily burdened prior and also gives a grace period just for vehicles already in transit.

This is how things are done sanely, most times it doesn't exist in Nigeria.

The question is what is Ghana's business? We did it trying to teach Benin Republic in particular a lesson, we never knew how much Ghanaian economy was dependent on that trade route.

This is why Nigerians were all shocked when we heard the Ghanaian economy is in trouble and your president even spoke about the case in London.

Just40:
English is a difficult language for them... Don't expect most of them to understand diplomatic language.

Anyone who read that statement knowing the in and out of diplomacy will notice it was a threat to Nigeria but allow them to carry on 😂🤣

A threat to Nigeria from Ghana? Are you fvcking kidding me 😂

vankelvin:
This news broke out many weeks ago but Ghanaians here see it to be normal but if the reverse was the case ya lot would have been said here

When I see them talk about Gas debt I just watch them with one eye like that.
The agreement is Take and pay so how do we use it without owing?

For how much? 3 million dollars shared by 2 countries? Oh please!
We all know those days when Obasanjo (who had the senate in his palms) would just donate 40 million dollars at once to Ghana. How many times did you hear Nigerians speak about such?

vankelvin:
It is today I got to know majority of Nigerians are mentally down

You closed your borders unannounced,
No country was made aware so Trucks loaded with perishable and none perishable goods got stacked at your borders and a Minister comes to ask you to open your borders so Ghanaian bound trucks can pass, How is that begging?

These people are wierd in all ways

We closed our borders unannounced and Ghanaians (who are not even neighbours) were complaining.

By contrast, Ghana closed her borders in 2021, and it didn't even make news in Nigeria. Only Nigerian traders in Ghana complained about it

"Nigerian traders on Wednesday flayed ECOWAS' silence over the closure of borders by the Ghana government, thus violating the policy on free movement in the region.

Mr Chukwuemeka Nnaji, President of the Nigerian Union of Traders Association in Ghana (NUTAG), made the call in a telephone interview with the News Agency of Nigeria (NAN) on Wednesday.

Nnaji, who spoke against the backdrop of delays by Ghana authorities to reopen shops owned by Nigerians, disclosed that their shops were closed since March 2020.

According to him, the borders were still closed by the Ghanaian authority and Nigerians, who ply that route, are suffering harassment and extortion".

vankelvin:
Exactly what happened, the Minister as well as President were doing their job. That's diplomacy not begging

You closed your borders unannounced so those Ghanaian business men whom their goods got stacked at your borders were the only people who got affected and maybe those few guys who Trade with Nigerians
Quiet apart from that the closure of your borders had no effect on Togo talkless Ghana.

You are not among our Top trading partners so your borders can remain closed forever and we won't be aware of it

Stop trying hard.
We closed our borders, it affected far away Ghana to the extent that the Ghanaian President had to go to London to speak about it. Whether or not he was reporting Nigeria to the UK, I don't know.

vankelvin:
The article is so clear so read and tell me what the closure of your borders did to Ghana?

Okay, I've read and I give you more.

vankelvin:
You are not serious
You are citing a complain made by one spare part dealer who does business with Nigerians.

How many Ghanaian spare part dealers do business with your people?

On a grand scale tell me just one thing that the closure of your borders did to Ghana?

Read the article. You won't find an article like this of Nigerian traders in Nigeria based on whatever policy Ghana made.

vaxx:
it directly affect Nigeria household those who depends on the chain of value that emanate from Ghana buy and sells . I.e those who depends on the Nigeria individual back home. That is a bigger stab . Closing Nigeria shops in Ghana means you have place some nigerians household member in poverty. It is simple common sense.

Closing border wasn't a problem at all, as it gives more chances for other countries to attract Ghanaian finished goods . Ivory coast and Senegal become immediate alternative . Nigeria market is big but it is not a successful one .


I am waiting for you to show me how Nigeria border affects Ghanaian economy.

Whatever shops you find by Nigerian traders in Ghana, it's quadruple in Aba and Onitsha.
Sorry, Nigerian traders in Ghana just like those in Cameroon just need space to spread their tentacles.
You can only make a point with the exchange rate disparity but even that is not so much of a problem.

Obaaderemi2:
Three American presidents have visited Nigeria same as Ghana. No big deal. Egypt has only two of such useless visits. Its ghanaians and kenyans who celebrate such nonsense.

Lol who cares about American president visit where they'll come to preach about gay rights and what not 😄?

vankelvin:
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Ask him to list just 3 things Ghanaians exppt/import from Nigeria that will cause Ghana to beg them to open their borders.

The last time I checked Nigeria wasn't on Ghana's Top 5 trading partners in Africa so what's that cold he is talking about?

Informal trade not recorded officially.

vankelvin:
Our minister begged where? blind comments as usual

You closed your borders unannounced which got some Ghanaian trucks loaded with goods stacked at your borders. What was the minister suppose to do? All she did was to tell your government to open the borders for Ghanaian trucks to cross. That's diplomacy not begging

What at all do Ghanaians export or import to Nigeria that will make Ghana beg your miserable country to open its borders for?

Lol. Read this article. Can you give me a similar article of Nigerian traders in Nigeria complaining about whatever decision the Ghanaian Government took?

https://www.dw.com/en/ghanaian-traders-livid-at-nigeria-border-closure/a-52189203

vaxx:
why gbajabiamila ( Nigeria house of representatives leaders) had move a whole envoy to Ghana jubliee house to meditate on the shops lockdown . How do you see that. We are talking about envoys on behalf of Nigerian. Our minister was only using his voice note a team . Nigeria came with a team to beg

The Minister is only doing the same work work Nigeria gbajabiamila came to do earlier

So when you close shops of Nigerian traders in Ghana, how do you think it affects Nigerian economy? It makes no sense.

However, closing border with Benin was clearly a problem to the Ghanaian economy. It's like comparing apples to oranges here.
Femi Gbajabiamilla did what he did not because it affects the Nigerian economy but simply as a means of diplomacy to show care for Nigerian people in other lands.

I can show you examples of how our closed borders affected Ghanaian economy and traders in Ghana. Can you show me how closed shops in Ghana affected Nigerian traders in Nigeria?

vankelvin:
That's pure delusion and that's what made Buhari to close your borders which amounted to nothing.
If there is any country that catches cold when another sneezes that should be Nigeria. When we close down your shops it becomes a topical issue in nigeria.

Wait till the day we close our borders to you, you will weep very well
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. You've gat jokes man.

vaxx:
why don't you read about their methodologies . It is available online. Governance and leadership is pact of their factor. You can go read about it . It is an extensive research document.

Well, we are all in this Africa. I don't know how special the leadership and Governance of Sychelles, Mauritius, Tunisia, Rwanda, Ivorycoast, and Ghana is that makes them stand out.

Brand finance themselves offered a disclaimer that their list should not be used in any form of research.

That's why Leadership and Governance in this context is subjective. Soft power can only be based on real tangible things we can measure across board.

IGpro1:
Togo plays a very important role in Africa politics.
Is 4th largest producer of phosphate in the world.
Most countries including Nigeria are greatly influenced by Togo.
They wield such political power that can influence politics in other countries in WA

I agree and if you talk of Africa, both Togo and Rwanda are very influential.

IGpro1:
Togo is the most influential country in West Africa, their ports are one of the most efficient in WA region.
they have good schools and good hospitals.
Eco bank is a transnational bank and is headquartered in Togo

Lol. That's another angle.

Just40:
which is a ration of 1 to 2.... So by size of economy or population, Ghana has provided more funding than Nigeria (Equity) which is unfair to Ghana.

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vaxx:
It is because you are not reading my write-up with an open mind. I said brand finance , a reputable financial institution that rated values of nation rated Ghana as one of the influential country in africa ( Nigeria and kenya aren't even consider). That is my point . It is not about financial brand located in Ghana at all. It is you who is not reading or has another subjective mind .

And because I wasn't getting the question you raised , I suggest you are trying to know how some Ghanaian company are wealthy. I try listing some that comes up my mind. I actually don't know you didn't not know brand finance is a global organization and not peculiar to Ghana . You were actually comparing what those not exist .

Okay cool, although brand finance speaks of Sychelles, Mauritius, Rwanda, Tunisia, Ivorycoast, Ghana as countries with this so called soft power.

So I'm asking: What are the metrics for it or on what basis was their experiment conducted, since it wasn't clearly about financial institutions?

vankelvin:
Bham

So what is this influence Ghana has in the African continent.