₦airaland Forum

eyeruroma:
I am a xtian, I mean born again xtian. I want to ask my fellow xtians on this forum this simple question. Are pastors call to ministry's of soul winning and preparing people for heaven or or business?[/b][/b]

What is your own call? Soul winning and preparing people for heaven or business? Or don't you think you also have a call?

eyeruroma:
Enough is enough, Let spade be called spade, let Pastors leave Business for Business Men and let then face the call of God upon then.
Let then stop all this religion merchandising and do the work of the master.
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What is the call of God upon Pastors? Are the positions of 'Pastor' and 'Business man' mutually exclusive? And while you're getting your answer ready, what exactly do you mean when you say 'Business man'?

I cannot recall where it is written in the bible that 'the work of the Master' is reserved for Pastors only. I may be wrong. Please enlighten me.

eyeruroma:
Can,t this money be used to help the needy in the society?
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Do you have any reason to suppose that the needy in the society are not being helped with 'this money'?

eyeruroma:
Can,t this Pastors help the young ministries that can not afford to pay their pastors?
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Once again, do you have any reason to suppose that this is not already being done? It is the duty of a local church assembly to support itself, much the same way it is the duty of every man to provide for his own family. Support by another ministry is not something to be 'grasped at'. . . if you get what I mean.

eyeruroma:
Are these pastors saying there are no one in their church who is in need?[/b]

I doubt very much that anyone has even suggested so. There will always be people in need. Creating jobs and/or an avenue for creativity is obviously a better way for providing for the needy, the same way teaching a man how to fish will be of more benefit to him than giving him a fish.

eyeruroma:
Let every pastor re trace his footsteps and re focus on the Master's s job[b][/b]

Why only Pastors? Every professing Christian needs to retrace his/her footsteps and refocus on the Master's job (if this was not already the case).

Hmmm,

I'm around.

How would you want to see me?

mukina2:
awwwww sweet of you ma king, but were are you

Wipe your tears, sweet Princess.

I'm right here, beside you.

@Garuba

I believe the area of difference among Nigerian Universities is that some calculate the GPA as a cumulative average over the four years, while others use the final year results only or use a final-year weighted average (with a variety of possible permutations).

In the University I graduated from, the CGPA system was practised. Hence you had to perform well from the first day, as a good final year result only would not be enough to affect your final GPA significantly. Each year contributed the same percentage of the total.

davidylan:
Nigeria operates a 5.00 GPA scale, this differs as some Unis operate a 6.00 GPA scale.

5.00 - 4.50 - 1st class
4.49 - 3.50 - 2'1
3.49 - 2.50 - 2'2
2.49 - 1.50 - 3rd class
Below 1.49 - Pass.
Anything below 1.00 - Probation/Extra yr/Finished did not Graduate (FNG)
Anything below 1.00 for 2 years running - Termination of studentship

All the above for my dear University of Agriculture, Abeokuta.

I believe that applies to all Nigerian Universities (?).

@Davidylan

Please don't get upset about the grapes. . . those who were able to gather them, and subsequently taste them, know better. . . they're not sour!

It's nice to see that you're trying to process your grapes further. . . that way, hopefully, they will be more useful to everyone.

I'm processing mine as well!

_{Did you get that?}

@Davidylan

The grapes are sour. . . (but that's only because I can't/couldn't get them!).

_{I hope you understand the sarcasm. . . .}

davidylan:
Proudly yes! and i have a good number of friends who worked really hard and also finished with a 1st class and a 2'1. We do not deserve to be categorised as those who are just "cram and pour", "just have paper qualifications and nothing upstairs", "slept with or threatened our lecturers for marks" by those who did not work hard enough!

No wonder you're taking this so personal!

Hehehe  This is all so funny. . .

I graduated with a first as well - in Biochemistry -, and felt less than pleased when it seemed someone was suggesting I cheated to do so!

Now I just find it funny. . . hehehe. . .

bolex:
damn . . .

these scientists never seize to amaze me

how da heck did they come up with that

anwyayz . . . av been in a simulator before and I think it was almost real

but wait

making objects invisible

DON'T YOU THINK THAT IS A BIT OF GOING TOO FAR ?

Dear Bolex. . .

I'm a Christian as well, but I believe that God encourages us to acquire knowledge and develop the abilities we lost with the fall.

If He doesn't want us to know it, we never will. Rest assured on that score.

But I think what restricts us is not so much God's unwillingness to reveal, but our limitations as humans.

'Now we see in part, we know in part also; then we shall see and know fully'.

hehehe

Davidylan, did you graduate with a first class?

davidylan:
@Jayk

Make i laugh first,
Combing Nairaland for Jobs? My dear God forbid that i should leave here to join you guys in the "favor" market!

I am not saying there are no 3rd class or 2'2 students who are not better than some with 2'1 particularly the women! There are, the point is how do you as a ompany weed out when you have 10000 applications for 2 jobs in your company? of course the first thing you'd want to do is use the paper qualifications. Interviews are then meant to weed out those who have the pali but no brains. Don't blame the poor companies.
Stop using the "herbal medicine people" as an example, we now live in a global age, education is key to your progress in life now, even americans who could count on govt support in the form of welfare are now begining to realise a college degree may make the difference between life as a middle class or as a struggling fella.
where you refering to yourself here? I suppose so because i also finished from a nigerian college and i am well aware of the issues you raised. This is not the first or 50th time i would come across the same line of argument. I have given a fair oppinion, yours has been based primarily on sentiments, trying to justify your own situation without looking at the other side of the coin. What about those with genuine 1st class degrees who are still roaming the streets today? At least i know of 2 friends who graduated with 1st class degrees (excellent guys!) who have no jobs today. Does that seem justified? And you with a 3rd class is complaining to the high heavens.
Stop attempting to justify a third class, NOT ALL FEMALES come out with a 3rd class simply for refusing to sleep with their lecturers, a few are genuine victims, the vast majority do not put in much effort and then try to hide under the victimisation umbrella!

Well said, Davidylan! I was going to comment, but saw you were doing a good job.

It is a common flaw of humankind to always try to blame someone else for our situations in life.

There are three major reasons for not being able to make a good honours degree:1. You're not smart enough. 2. You're not willing to work hard, go the extra mile if need be and use your time responsibly. 3. You've been a hapless victim of circumstances beyond your control (victimisation, sickness, financial difficulties, etc.).

The vast majority of people that complain fall into the second and first categories, in that order.

It would probably be more effective to conduct a synopsis of the circumstances that led to your not performing as well as you would have wished, and try to make corrections for the future.

I really don't get it. . . can someone please explain you arrive at the conclusion that someone is 'ugly'?

Sorry, bro.

Grace to you.

Hotstepper:
Nigerians should know that anyone can get 1st class in any Nigerian institution without entering school so they should stop diz 2.1 bullshit and what u answered during da interview/test whicheva case it maybe, should be getting da test. even abraod where u have 2 work 4 it, GPA doesn't determine but da knowledge and what u answered during da interview, I hope it changes in Nigeria

Funny. Have you seen anyone that got a first class from a Nigerian Institution without 'entering' school? Or maybe you've just got a grouse against people that got a first?

A first class degree is a result of consistent performance at the highest level, likewise 2.1.

Why do you call it "bullshit"?

Melifew:
My coursemate, a girl, asked me out in the presence of my friends. I thought she was joking but it turned out she was damn serious! Can someone help me out?

I have reduceed the way I relate with her because I felt embrassed and disgusted (I don't think our girls are lacking moral upbringing). Worst of it is she not fine (nothing to gain). She is just like a virus infest your system and move ahead. I need help.

What kind of help do you need?

Seems you've already made a jolly mess of it.

I feel personally outraged that you would refer to someone who thinks you're a nice person as a virus.

It is always a pleasure to see my Rose Petal.

ziggi:
u can run but u can't hide from love.
this is because love has no cover nor blanket

Yes, my friend.

But love is ultimately an act of will. Can I force you to love me if you do not wish to?

Is 'love' really blind? Or is it a case of myopia and selective amnesia?

I think I have, my Lady.

Princess!

I hope you had a good night.

It is not wise for a man to embark on a journey for which he is not adequately prepared.

You can force a horse to the stream, but you cannot force it to drink.

My point?

It is an act of will, for which you should be prepared to ultimately accept responsibility.

Several years down the line. . . it will be time to review your decision.

Easy on her, guys.

I'm quite sure you understand the point she's trying to make, even though you may not agree with the way it came out.

KAG:
Yes . I could also marry someone who believes in a God or Gods. It's mostly fundamentalists on both sides that tend to have problems associating with those of a differing belief (or non-belief).

No one's talking about association here, my good friend. Marriage is not just any kind of 'association'.

@Seun:

If you know that the spiritual world is real,  that means you also know that people's spirits do not get married; it is the flesh that is married.

As you probably also know, this is not because of incest (lol), but because spirits do not have gender, and marriage is essentially an institution to be fulfilled in the flesh.

Nice sense of humour you have!

Seun:
Is spiritual incest not a greater abomination than physical incest? The spirit world is more real, you know!

Lol.

How did I know you were going to say that, Seun?

So you believe that the spiritual world is more real? Hmmm. . . .

Seun:
Which is why Christians, having the same Father, must not marry each other: that will be incest!!

Cheesy!

God is the Father of Spirits, not flesh.

@trips:

Lol. That's kind of funny.

But you've probably got a point.

Things are not always what they appear to be.

Giving bribes in order to gain undue advantage will always be wrong, regardless of how hard you try to justify it.

There are no extenuating circumstances - either you give it and accept that you're doing something wrong, or you don't give it all and do the right thing.

The government, as someone said in a previous post, is not formed by aliens.

A people ultimately deserve the kind of government they have.

The cock that crows while perched on a rope will find that it is forced into a dance with the rope.

The fly that refuses advice will follow the corpse into the grave.

When the wind blows, the area under the chicken's tail will be exposed.

The chicken that refuses to heed advice will learn wisdom inside the cooking pot.

Tell a proverb to a wise man, and he understands. Tell it to the fool, and he veers off into the bush.

The bed bug tells its children to exercise patience because everything that is hot will eventually cool down.

Incredible!

_{*whispers in awe*} She can also hear in UV and infrared!!

When several people urinate in the same vessel, it foams! 

One should not play with a tiger's tail, even if it is thought to be dead.

A man does not lose a wrestling bout with his opponent on the grounds that he has an upset stomach.

It is expected that corn is eaten before yam (traditionally, the corn ripens before yam matures).

The guinea fowl says to its children, "Eat both yam and roots, so that when the owner of the farm harvests his yams you will still have something left to eat".

Howzat D'baby?