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Fasola deported Yoruba beggars

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Northerners deported by Fasola

Things are taking shape. Fasola has completed the regional deportation of fellow Nigerians
He has deported northerners, fellow westerners and now Easterners (these current deportees include Igbos and non Igbos from the East)
One question I have though is how he arrived at the decision to deport people who are not from Anambra, many of whom are no even Igbos, to Anambra. Or it is it simply just to discharge them at Onitsha, the gateway to the East, for every deportee to then find their bearing from there?
IMO, this act is not based on tribalism. However, Fasola has completely sealed any presidential ambition he might have. Some of us will campaign against him based on this deportation of fellow Nigerians. He is not fit to lead anywhere outside Lagos State. Who else will ACN field to contest the presidency? Tinubu?

There are a number of ministers who are delivering results rather than delivering activity but one question that puzzles me is why the major improvement in electricity supply nation wide appears to have slowed with the resignation of Barth Nnaji as minister for power?

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Only Igbo ministers are missed. I remember same situation when Ezekwesili left, when Dora left NAFDAC, and when Ngozi left during her first outing. I remember also that Soludo was missed. What are others doing?

pazienza: I believe that the state the igbo find themselves today was caused by having leaders who where born and breed outside igboland lead us at a crucial time of our history.

Zik northern birth and western influence, influenced his 'efulefusm'

Ojukwu's northern birth and western influence made him see the match to lagos differently, he tagged the yorubas as friends. An igbo leader born and breed in igboland ( orji uzor kalu comes to mind) wouldn't have handed that mission to banjo,he would have approached that mission differently.

I think,we should never allow people not born in igboland to lead us again,there must be a reason why americans don't allow citizens not born in USA to lead them.

Some truth, that; after all many of the Igbos outside Igboland have no political stake in Igboland until they return.

pazienza: Let the igbo vote for an igbo,the hausa/north for themselves,the yorubas for a yoruba,and the SS minorities for GEJ. Chikena.

Following the stalemate, we meet at a round table to discuss the way forward. Kalu might be correct after all.

Beyond that, and even more seriously, there is the question of ascertaining the criteria used in determining the eligibility of the affected persons for deportation, as well as their states of origin. Indications are that several of the affected persons are Igbo, but that many are not. Some do not even have confirmed biological nor other relationships with Anambra State. We wonder, for instance, whether the relevant liaison office, or state government, was contacted and what responses were received. There is the further question of who determined the appropriate spot to deposit the affected persons and in whose custody were they put, given the prevailing security situation in the country at the moment?

Things are taking shape. Fasola has completed the regional deportation of fellow Nigerians
He has deported northerners, fellow westerners and now Easterners (these current deportees include Igbos and non Igbos from the East)
One question I have though is how he arrived at the decision to deport people who are not from Anambra, many of whom are no even Igbos, to Anambra. Or it is it simply just to discharge them at Onitsha, the gateway to the East, for every deportee to then find their bearing from there?
IMO, this act is not based on tribalism. However, Fasola has completely sealed any presidential ambition he might have. Some of us will campaign against him based on this deportation of fellow Nigerians. He is not fit to lead anywhere outside Lagos State. Who else will ACN field to contest the presidency? Tinubu?

dayokanu: You can get out this minute and dont let the door hit your behind.

Carve yourself out as long as you dont attempt to "liberate others" with you. Meanwhile relocate all your people from other parts of the country including Lagos, Abuja, Kano and Portharcourt..

God be with you in Arochukwu

Who was liberating who? I though you are a history student of the Biafra war? Those people you say are being liberated were part and parcel of Biafra that your Awo and Gowon ''liberated''. Now see where your liberation landed them: in a perennially underdeveloped, Boko Haram-infested union.

sheyguy: Ndu_Chuks is no confused man . . . He does not dispute the fact that the trend he pointed out in his Original Post could be present in the Northern or Western Leadership cycle. . . He is only interested in identifying with the East for reasons best known to him . . . His attacker on this thread should see beyond blind ethnic interest and give the thread the direction and seriousness it deserves.

You are even speaking for him. Why don't I believe you are a far worse bigot than Ndu_Chuks? Guess what, you are not smart, as even a baby can see thru you.

dayokanu: Igbos are the problem in this country!!!

truth4meal: you think Nigeria is the problem of Nigerians abi? But bro its the other way round - Nigerians is the problem of Nigeria. Go solo and you will understnd why the east even with the "chikini moni" allocated them did not develp in tandem wit d money allocated. Its about us not Nigeria - infact Nigeria is just d name of the most gifted corrupt nation in d world...Won't orji Kalu and co be in dat Solo career of the east?

Hopefully you did not see that post from Dayokanu before you responded to my own response of that post. Otherwise, one is persuaded to accuse you of selective remembrance.

dayokanu: Igbos are the problem in this country!!!

Sanusi did not think so when he wrote and discussed at lenght that Yorubas are the problem with Nigeria
And where did you read that Igbos do not want to go solo?
Craze dey worry you?

truth4meal: Buhari to me is what I think d north can hawk - I just love the man's sterling CV

The same Buhari who asked muslims to vote for only muslims and who instigated the post-election upheaval?

[quote author=ndu_chucks]^^^ Its OK to focus on political leadership since we are in the Politics section.[/quote]Hey! Rochas was not born in the North and did not live all his life in the North
He had at least 14 years of his earliest life in Alaigbo

He does not behave like the northern leaders otherwise he would not be giving scholarships to the poor.

Katsumoto: You still miss a point. Living in a place doesn't necessarily mean you have to accept the values of a such a place. But regardless of whether you are influenced or not, one thing is certain - You will have more than one perspective and learn to appreciate other values where they are sensible. Meaning that the best practices can not be found in any one place.

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.” - Aristotle

Which means exactly that you can be born and raised in a place and not influenced by the culture of the place

Based on Zik and Ojukwu's actions in life: e.g. desire for education and emancipation of their people from feudalism, it is clear that they did not imbibe northern cultures (where they were born) which are the opposite of western education and freedom for the masses.

Same also for Okorocha who is giving scholarships to the poor all over Nigeria, something no northerner, not even Dangote, does.

Katsumoto: You still miss a point. Living in a place doesn't necessarily mean you have to accept the values of a such a place. But regardless of whether you are influenced or not, one thing is certain - You will have more than one perspective and learn to appreciate other values where they are sensible. Meaning that the best practices can not be found in any one place.

The values learned can be positive or negative. I have already addressed this point; which you should have seen did you read previous posts.

Those Ibos born outside Igboland could have learned both good and bad or even nothing, from their hosts. not so?

Nzeogwu is a good example. He learned rebellion against authorities from the North where he was born and raised, if we go by the OP's game.
Can we know where Ojukwu learned how to protect his people from their enemies seeing that he was born in the North, rasied in the East and West and in the UK, and started full adult working life in the East

Who is the northern leader of 2015 that we should entrust the lives of 150 million Nigerians with?

Ibrahim Idris Adejo (born 1944) is a Nigerian businessman who was elected Governor of Kogi State in Nigeria in April 2003 and reelected in April 2007. He is a member of the ruling People's Democratic Party (PDP).[1] Ibrahim Idris was replaced as governor by his brother-in-law Captain Idris Wada, who won an election in December 2011 and took office in January 2012.[2]

Ibrahim Idris was born in 1949 at Icheke town in Omala Local Government Area of Kogi State. He started his primary education in 1954 in Onitsha, Anambra State. In 1962, he moved to Kano, where he completed his primary education in 1963. He moved to Buguma in Rivers State where he enrolled in King’s Commercial College in 1964.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Idris

Actually where you were born and/or raised may have little or no bearing with what you turn out to be later on in life

Morsi, the current Egyptian president schooled in the USA, in California to be precise, where Hollywood and nudity and all sorts are practiced.
But today, he is an islamic fundamentalist rejoicing at the bombing of the American embassy i Libya and killing of Americans by fellow fundamentalists
How much if the western lifestyle did he imbibe?

Late Gadaffi's son also has a PhD from the UK, but he was involved in oppressing his people, contrary to western values.

sheyguy: Somebody has gone into some research here, Maybe or Maybe not this pattern is present in northern Governor and Western Governor . . . this us a thread for leaders of Eastern Nigeria extract on an anonymous forum for now.

You this fool. The topic compared SE leaders with N and SW leaders, so every region mentioned in on the table

[quote author=ndu_chucks]One would have to conclude that you are either an illiterate, a blind bat, or a wannabe bully. Who are you to tell me what the focus of a thread I opened should be? If you are not interested in the topic or not intelligent enough to discuss without unnecessary effeminate emotionalism, go and start your own thread or get out of this one.[/quote]You are the one who is ignorant, half-baked and blind. Only a blind northerner such as yourself will call a one-eyed man blind

[quote author=ndu_chucks]Possibly, though I am not aware of any. Please name only 2 of such leaders to solve my ignorance in this matter.[/quote]I think one former Governor of Kano spent part of his life in the East.
Same for former governor of Kogi state?

[quote author=ndu_chucks]nwanne m, for once, leave tribalism and bigotry behind and read what I wrote and Katsumoto's read of my initial post. As well summarised for you, the point is that Igbo leaders raised outside Alaigbo are indeed better leaders not because they learned good leadership qualities in other regions but partly because of exposure to other cultures and ways of life makes one a better leader and citizen.

I am now convinnced that the Igbo babe called ogugua88 is smarter that you cone heads - heads filled with akamu kawai.[/quote]Get off your ignorance. Then for the same reason as you gave above, northern leaders and western leaders raised in the East make better leaders in their respective regions too. Are we agreed on that?

Katsumoto: Where in my post did I suggest that there are qualities in other regions that can be emulated by Igbo leaders?

Broadly speaking, based on the topic that you have contributed in. Got it?

[quote author=ndu_chucks]Thank you for your objectivity which is devoid of tribalism and bigotry. This is why you are one of the most respected NLers after ndu_chucks.

.[/quote]Did you read where he alluded, and rightly, that no region has leadership worthy of emulation? You are so, so simple (there is no complexity in you), which makes you a basal human being.

Katsumoto: Regardless of region, all regions are lacking in truly self-less leaders. The truly self-less leaders in Nigeria like Amino Kano, Sam Mbakwe did not get the chance to lead their regions.

But I think the point Ndu_Chucks was trying to make was that Igbo leaders raised outside Alaigbo may be better leaders not because they learned good leadership qualities in other regions but perhaps exposure to other cultures and ways of life makes one a better leader and citizen. Surely, that will apply to all Nigerians.

If it applies to every region like I already have concluded by my previous post, would it not be bigotry for the OP to make it an Igbo problem?
How can the North and West be the example that the East should follow when they have not set any example of leadership that's worth being followed?

Can anyone give me one example of excellent leadership that the Igbo should copy from the North and SW?

asha 80: he is not.he is from the south south but born in lagos.

More like Ishekiri (sp?), Youba cousins

Antivirus92: because ur brain cannot contain strong analogy.

He is a Yoruba; they and northerners think shallow.

asha 80: ermm.. you do not give what you do not have.if an environment is churning out so called reformed people nay leaders then it would simply defy logic if the indigenes of that community on getting to leadership do not show the same traits.

That sums it up. The North and SW cannot be good only for Igbos and not good for the indigenes.

sheyguy: So what happens when the host community of the traveller is always churning out reformed visitors ? . . . Wouldn't it be more fair to say the positives of the host community out weighs its negatives? Hmmm?

Where on earth does that happen? May be in planet Mars.
Did you not learn that clifford Orji, the Igbo man who was arrested for cannibalism in Lagos lived in Lagos and learned cannibalism from Lagosians? Is gbomogbomo new to you? Give me a break.

sheyguy: I am not an Igbo leader bros . . . You can derail the thread if you want to and get personal with me . . . In the end it does not change the harsh reality on ground.

If you will accept your ignorance on this topic, the world will be a better place.

And BTW, traveling out means the traveler imbibes both the good and bad attributes of the host community. I see you acting unthinkingly again in your penultimate post.

sheyguy: Before now Ojukwu and Rochas were the Stand out leaders oh . . .

You are ignorant:
Gov Sam Mbakwe and Jim Nwobodo of Imo and Anambra states (Shagari regime) performed very well to the extent that they established the first and second state-owned universities in Nigeria

Imo Airport built by Mbakwe is also the first state-built airport in Nigeria

You are better of eating amala and oily-ewedu than spewing such crass ignorance.