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Shikena:This reminds me of the thread where someone dropped out of Physics or had a third class from Benue State University and went on to make a First Class in Philosophy from the same university. Also, finance especially octane-inclined ones prefer math and physics grads to economics/finance/business grads. Milton Friedman's son had his first degree in chemistry and physics and is today an economics and law professor. |
opamoses1:The man notorious for wearing monk-strap shoes |
Elidrisy20:The numbers are negligible. That is the truth. But I am not surprised he is in the US - best place to thrive as a black professional. None comes close, not even sub-Saharan Africa. |
Eriokanmi:Very toff especially to run a factory. I also agree with obtaining the minimum degree and garnering experience in it, except for academia. I'm not saying this to support the government of the day. I hate them with passion. They're the reason we're this backward today. Instead of investing in the country they've wilfully destroyed, they're busy investing in Ghana, UAE, Malta, etc. If I say vote them out now, their hungry doggs will attack me as usual.But why are Nigeria's political elite investing outside their dominant environment? If a country's political elite isn't investing in their country, it means something is wrong somewhere. |
folake4u:LOL! This is wishful thinking, but I digress. Also, Daycare is expensive abroad. We all know that, but from my previous response, I was talking about a family based in Nigeria. So getting a nanny, preferably an elderly lady shouldn't be a problem.Okay. Fair enough. A major difference to why women in Singapore advance their careers compared to those in Japan. But cultural differences sha as the Japanese don't like strangers living with them. Lol, I'm not married. What I meant by that is I grew up with a nanny, my mum's a career woman and she didn't pause her career just because she had us as kids. There was the nanny to support us till we reached a reasonable age. Hence, that worked for me and others who grew up with nannies.I see. I did not grow up with one, but yes, I agree that the Motherhood Penalty exists as my mom's career rapidly progressed after I was old enough to cook and take of my siblings. No, I didn't check the article but now that you've mentioned, I'd check it out.As expected. As hypergamy exists, the Motherhood Tax/Penalty in careers and earnings will continue. Oh yeah. Private schools are doing well with their students. I have a couple of friends from private schools who have gotten their LLM before reaching 25. Very applaudable.Good for them, but bad for the country as a whole. The answer will be to decentralise Nigeria's economic hubs so graduates elsewhere can earn a good income and have a thriving career without necessarily being in Lagos. I cannot see how a graduate from Ebonyi or Bauchi will compete with someone who studied and lives in Lagos/Ogun. |
Pojomojo:Sure. I acknowledge that a few days ago here. I know they don't believe in a God, but God bless the Chinese. They have been of immense benefit to Africans and everyone else in the Global South. |
JobAndVacancies:Your signature says you are job hunting. Did something not tell you after reading through this thread that there is a link between having good grades and a thriving career? Those companies you admire, na people like these dey work for there. You can see it for yourself. |
Pojomojo:Dual citizenship does not make them a native. Only African Americans have the right to say they are native blacks in the US and Canada. Those in the UK entered aeroplane, so they know their papa village and mama house. Having a British passport does not make one English. When time reach, questions will be asked. P.S. This omits those in the Caribbeans. |
olyrayy:I don't live in the UK. But if I were with young children, I would do as I stated in that commentary: go to every top university across the country to literally count the number of black students at the undergraduate level in selected departments. I will seek to know their origins and duration in the UK. If there are more students directly from Africa or the Caribbean or even the US than those born, bred and educated in the UK, I will have my children study at any of the top private secondary schools in Nigeria. On the other hand, I have been reading the comment section on the Telegraph UK and the Financial Times, white Brits have been complaining that their children are being passed upon for students from minority ethnic/racial groups in admission into top universities. If their complaints are accurate and the numbers are exceedingly high, it means it is recently that we have more black children born and bred in the UK who attend top universities in the country. Before this period, the numbers must have been terribly low. To prevent that, my pikin go study for LJC and get into say Oxford. However, the returns on investment for a black professional in the UK are too low. To checkmate that, the US becomes the target. It is unarguably the best place to thrive as a black professional. |
franchasofficia:The argument by them is that we should not be subsidising other people's medical systems considering we don't have enough funds. That those who graduate from those institutions should work in Nigeria. I pity those who study at private universities such as Redeemer University and ABUAD. However, I argue that more medical universities should be built so we export our people to garner superior knowledge and experience. We should export the greatest resource we have and get more in remittances. India now reaps the benefit of some of her intellectual class returning as they cannot obtain Green Cards in the US. Also, most people who japa'd recently will return, especially as the backlash towards immigration increases. This is my prognostication. But I have a reason why there seems to be opposition to our nurses leaving. If I talk, dem go say I be tribalist. As for verification, you stated in one of our conversations that the US does not care about it. Only the UK and maybe the Gulf States do. The alternative to such a blanket ban will be to have these medical professionals pay an exit fee as payment for the subsidised education or omit private universities from the ban. They will generate more as employees in the abroad. Please someone need to create a thread on this topic of Nursing and Midwifery Council of Nigeria shutting down their verification portal for Nigerian Nurses and Midwives just to stop them from migrating abroad to work or further their nursing education. Such thread need to hit the front page as soon as possible, can you work on that?Sorry, I cannot. The bans wey I chop because of this thread is enough. Any thread with references and pictures will be on my under-construction website. Nairaland's mods and Seun need to work on the anti-spam bot. |
franchasofficia:Thank you, sir. The thing with living in the abroad, especially in the Anglophone countries (Nigeria is Anglo-speaking), is that one gets too comfortable with life. On the other hand, there have to be consistent policies and reforms by the political elites in the economy of Nigeria. The Chinese did the same. Compared to India, we can see the differences. Another aspect that we don't often mention is the ethnic/political structure of a country. China is homogeneous and it works greatly for them. Maybe Vietnam, but e go hard to see a country replicate what the Chinese did for Mainland China. |
1x2x3:Doing well in life is purely subjective. But all in human and material assessment, these people are well accomplished. Let's try to fear God in our utterances. |
ednut1:If you see the Indian version eh (where I got the inspiration to create these threads), ALL japa'd! The difference between China and India is that Chinese brilliant students returned after their studies or did not leave. These days, the top Chinese students don't leave China. It is those who could not get high scores but have rich parents who leave for the US, Canada and the UK. Those with above-average brains and small change, but no admission aim at Japan, South Korea and Singapore. In all, the Chinese aim to return to China after their studies and work experience. Our people and Indians don't do the same. |
bolu96:My pleasure.. and no problem. But man, Nairaland's anti-spambot thoroughly dealt with me because of this thread. Dampened my morale. I had to even buy a domain name and started building a website so I could publish my findings rather than mailing mods upandown. Going forward, I will work on the website so I do things my way. The endless bans were annoying and tiring. |
Number 1 is the source of this compilation. Number two is the list of top schools with stellar WASSCE results.
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dominique:Please respond: If I post a picture in that thread, shey I won't be banned? Thank you. |
As a side note: Again, as I have written on Nairaland, Black Africans in the US, not necessarily African Americans, are enjoying the rights African Americans toiled for: https://www.nairaland.com/7695199/living-uk-life-immigrant-part-3/652#131355433; https://www.nairaland.com/8156136/helen-comperatore-widow-trump-rally/5#131005469 In fact, I even advised a Nigerian with Spanish nationality to choose Black during admissions for his children into American universities so as to take advantage of affirmative action policies: https://www.nairaland.com/8132873/japa-inside-japavery-confuse#130628245 So, it is not surprising that they, Black Africans, are the most vocal opponets against the removal of affirmative action as it eases their journeys to postions in elite universities and top companies. The same for the privileged Nigerians in Canada who are cupping away DEI slots which should be enjoyed by the Blacks who were historically disadvantaged in Canada, not people from Ijebu-Ode and Onitsha. A study which shows that Black Africans rather than African Americans (native blacks in the US) populate elite universities in the US. “When Diversity for Diversity's Sake is not Enough: Should Black Immigrants Receive the Benefit of Affirmative Action at the Detriment of Native Blacks? https://www.repository.law.indiana.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1008&context=ijlse IbeOkehie:God bless Nigeria! nlfpmod; Seun; Mukina2; dominique; Justwise I got banned by the anti-spam bot several times because of this thread. I had to omit some references for the fear of being banned. Please work on that. |
9. This is a personal assessment and not a mockery of Okunola Abdullah Akolade. As seen, compared to others, he is the only one without any experience apart from academic education. In the real world outside of academia (Iyoha who is an academic worked somewhere before her appointment at HBS), quality aka cognate work experience matters more than a bag of degrees. Companies prefer people who can on day one hit the ground running and on day two, keep running (apologies to Tinubu). A time working in some companies, especially the top firms in any industry, equals or supersedes an academic program at some of the best universities. This reminds of the Twitter fella who regretted declining an offer from one of the Big4 for an admission into a university in the UK. Schools that declined your application when you had no experience will rush you after you have worked in those top companies. Also, other companies will prefer you – with cognate work experience – over someone without the same but has an advanced degree from a top university. That is, three years at McKinsey is highly rated over an MSc from Imperial or CALTECH without an equivalent work experience. Nothing beats quality work experience! If you are a first class or highly brilliant fellow, get the experience before pursuing further degrees. You also earn an income rather than continue living student life. Schools nor book no dey run. 10. As I have preached relentlessly on Nairaland, the United States is the ONLY place where black professionals thrive and excel. Unsurprisingly, African Americans are the richest set of black people globally, with black South Africans behind. The US absorbs the best and brightest talent globally. However, I wonder if there won’t be a backlash towards Nigerians should Nigeria begin to prosper. Currently, Chinese Academics and professionals are being harassed with many opting to relocate to Mainland China or cousins in Singapore/Malaysia/South Korea/Japan. This paper studied their worries and planned departures: “Caught in the Crossfire: Fears of Chinese-American Scientists”: https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.2216248120 For the laughs, for those who have been long-time and frequent Nairalanders, you must have come across Ogugua and Sexzkills who were literal love-birds. Sexzkills was a famous male feminist, while Ogugua was a popular feminist. Their views aligned and news had that they got married, deactivated and relocated to the US. While conducting this research, I came across Covenant University’s 2014 graduation list and a name popped out: Ogugua. On the list, she graduated with a First Class in Civil Engineering: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chidubem-ogugua/ Currently lives in Canada. How far Sexzkills na? E don tey!😂 A side piece, a classmate of hers (First Class as well) was one of the earliest Nigerian educated employees at McKinsey Nigeria who later went for his MBA at Harvard and now works at Amazon US: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aina-adebodun. Another First Class classmate of theirs works as a software engineer in Canada: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adebayosamuel/; Another First Class classmate of theirs is a teaching assistant at the University of Missouri-Michigan. Before that, he obtained an MEng from Imperial College London, UK: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshua-agbede-237b507b/ There were five First Class graduates (Civil Engineering) from that set. I could not find the other student’s information. |
4. The majority were women! Women everywhere!!!! Talk about beauty and brains!! Twale to Nigerian women! I love you all! 23 out of 37 = more than 60%! 5. While Medicine (7) has always been a popular course, engineering (11) and business/economics (9) disciplines overshadowed it. In my previous study, the popularity of Medicine also waned over successive years. However, further research will be needed to solidify this as a fact and to know why. On the other hand, only one person pursued a degree and career path in Law. Another Nairalander, Sreamsense, had this to say about my previous research: “This your research means engineering remains most highly intelligent and brilliant students at JAMB/WAEC level despite dealing with harder subject combinations even a bit higher than that of medicine; many brilliant (first five/six) students you listed here on yearly basis end up studying engineering and related courses like computer and cyber security” Source: https://www.nairaland.com/7763389/top-jamb-scorers-where-today/4#124410579 Again, this study has proven him to be correct. 6. Nigeria has good schools. I say this because one of the reasons we have had a growing proportion of Nigerians relocating, aka japa, is because “they want to secure their children’s education” or as those in the UK peddle “they want to offer their children good education”. Sorry, but from what I have seen so far (this research aside), I dare say it is better you enrol your child in an above average private school in Nigeria than a state school in the UK. The majority of these Nigerians, presumably, can afford an above average private school in Nigeria, but cannot or would find it difficult to do the same for Private or Public Schools in the same UK. So, the belief that the free education the child receives in a state school in the UK is better than the above average private school in Nigeria is falsified. The best schools in the UK are private and public, both of which are expensive for the average immigrant and very selective. For those who might not understand the differences between state, private and public schools in the UK. Here is an excerpt: “State schools are funded by the government and adhere to the national curriculum. There are no fees, and all children aged 5 to 18 in the UK are entitled to a place at such a school. Private schools, also referred to as independent schools, do not receive money from the government and instead fund themselves through school tuition fees paid for each pupil. The term ‘public school’ can cause some confusion as, outside of the UK, it is used to describe state schools funded by the government. In the UK, public schools are the most prestigious private schools: Eton and Harrow being among some of the most famous examples. All public schools are private schools, but not all private schools are public schools” Source: https://stpetersprep.co.uk/news/what-difference-state-public-private-schools/ In fact, what I will advise these parents in the UK to do is to conduct your research into the top schools to know how many black children born and bred in the UK attend these schools. So, for instance, go to Imperial College, seek to know the background of the black students at undergraduate level. If the majority are directly from Africa and elsewhere but the UK, it means something is not right with the education black children who reside in the country receive. Replicate this study across the other top schools. Focus on Russell Group of Universities (Shey you said you left Nigeria because of your children’s future?) 🙄 7. Again, the church has proven ab initio that it owns and manages the best schools in Nigeria. From my previous research and the picture about the schools with the top WASSCE scores in 2016, the church has shown that they produce the most academically brilliant students in the country. This is the same in the US, especially for Jesuit Colleges. Expectedly, church owned schools in the abroad are significantly more expensive than regular schools and more expensive than fellow private schools. See why I said those in the UK have to think twice about the “free education” their children receive? In fact, to japa folks, if you cannot afford the top secondary schools in the abroad, I implore you to send them to Nigeria, especially at above average secondary schools whose names are shown in my studies. Special shout-out to the Catholic Church and Winners Chapel. The Bishop @ Ota is doing something right! Equally, the reverends are also good at what they do, literally for a living. 8. Covenant University is Nigeria’s top private university, no ifs or buts! I stated the same in my previous research and even mentioned how I predicted its rise. |
COMMENTARY Methodology: - Internships and part-time roles were omitted. Only full time roles were included. - Certificate courses are excluded. Only professional academic programs, relevant certifications and licenses are included. - There could have been change of names. So, there are slight differences in the spellings of some names, but the general information remains accurate. However, I maintained the same spelling as shown in the newspaper article for reproducibility reasons. - Since they had stellar WASSCE grades, I strongly believe they got admitted into their chosen courses and universities with few years gap after leaving secondary school. This means almost all began university education in 2009, a few in 2010 and two in 2011. Only Nwankwo Miriam began classes in 2012. As a result, while there were familiar names, the focus was when the person began tertiary education. As such, any tertiary education entry before 2009 is disregarded. For example, Okechukwu Rita has a LinkedIn entry (https://www.linkedin.com/in/rita-okechukwu-32937146/) but that profile started working with the Nigerian Universities Commission in 1992. Another example is of Akinola Olaoluwa with this profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/olaoluwa-akinola-050239a1/?originalSubdomain=ng but who graduated from OAU in 2010 (First Class) and works at Shell Nigeria. Discussion: 1. In my previous research, I aimed at studying if there is a link between stellar grades at secondary school, university entry scores and stellar grades at tertiary level with a flourishing career. As clearly seen in this research, there seems to be straightforward path from high WASSCE grades to stellar performances at university level and a thriving career path. From 2009 – date is over a decade and almost two decades. This tells current secondary school students, guardians, well-wishers and parents that having stellar grades leads to an excellent life after school. Apparently, school is not scam as ignorantly peddled on social media. You can see it for yourself: raw facts and figures, not fats and figos. Moreover, research into the top JAMB scorers in 2009 will provide more insight to know if these scholars scored high in JAMB. Basically, the aim is to find out if students who attained high grades in WAEC go on to perform excellently in JAMB. So, if a high proportion of WASSCE scholars go on to make a First Class in their university education and there is consistency, it means one’s WAEC scores can predict the person’s performance in the university ceteris-paribus. As summarised by a Nairalander, Crofton, in the previous study: “most of the top JAMB candidates make excellent WAEC result, from time to time there are people who underperform in WAEC but do well in JAMB and vice versa, but usually top JAMB candidates are proven in their secondary schools already! ” This study and the previous one have proved him to be correct. Source: https://www.nairaland.com/7763389/top-jamb-scorers-where-today/2#124406607 2. While it is just a study rather than year-on-year studies, by comparing this with my previous research, it gradually solidifies my foundational thought that all things been equal: high WASSCE grades = excellent CGPAs = thriving career. 3. Loyola Jesuit College is Nigeria’s top secondary school! This is a thorough assessment as shown by their exploits not only both researches, but Cowbellpedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowbellpedia) and its dominance of top WASSCE scorers nationwide (https://www.nairaland.com/3955914/loyola-jesuit-abuja-pictures/1#59033383; https://www.nairaland.com/3955914/loyola-jesuit-abuja-pictures/2#59033939; https://www.nairaland.com/3955914/loyola-jesuit-abuja-pictures/2#59036401; https://www.nairaland.com/3955914/loyola-jesuit-abuja-pictures/3#59040781). As narrated by another Nairalander Naptu2, the highest JAMB scorer in 2002 is a LJC alumnus: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregory-ugwi/ BS Mathematics, Princeton; a LJC alumnus was the best WAEC candidate in 2007. BS Mechanical Engineering and Materials Science, Harvard University: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnyusufu/). The school has been consistent. It also helps that the parents of the students are upper-middle-class Nigerians as the school is one of the most expensive secondary schools in the country. So, they can be sponsored to study at some of the best universities across the world. Additionally, due to the relative financial provision by their parents, they had online presence and their records could easily be found compared to others. This is when you consider that Android-enabled phones began proliferation in Nigeria around 2012 – 2014. What money cannot do, more money can do. |
33 Afunku Oyinkansola Maryam (F): Omolaja Sodipo Memorial Anglican School, Onikolobo: 3As, 6Bs |
29 Musa Abdulkadir Buhari (M): Musa Iliasu College, Kano: 5As, 4Bs |
25. Oyeyele Adebimpe Morenike (F): Queen’s College, Yaba: 4As, 4Bs, 1C |
21 Ebi Allan M (M): International School, UNILAG: 5As, 3Bs, 1C |
17.Anyigbo Nonso Kenneth (M): Loyola Jesuit College: 7As, 1B, 1C |
13.Akinola Olaoluwa O (M): The International School University of Ibadan: 6As, 3Bs |
9. Okunola Abdullah Akolade (M): Our Lady and Faith Francis Catholic College, Osogbo: 5As, 3Bs, 1C |
dominique:I saw your recent comment. I am still uploading the post when I got banned by the anti-spam bot. Can that bot be curtailed? |
5. Ugwu Oju Obianuju (F): The Lagoon Secondary School, Lekki: 7As, 2Bs
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izubext007:Nairaland is Nigeria's most visited indigenous-owned website. |
folake4u:Well, the numbers say women have to choose, especially in the nascent years of the child. It can work if the husband is also supportive, they could also employ a help to assist with work at home.The advantage Nigeria and countries abut to poorer neighbours have compared to other developed nations. Daycare is very expensive. I recall mentioning to Ednut that parents from both side can be drafted in from Nigeria. Bros replied with it "what if dem don die"? It worked for me and many others.You don marry? So I don't see any reason why women have to choose?Honest question, did you at least glance through the article I linked in the previous post? P.S. Thanks for the answer. Not surprised. The trajectory answers it. UNILAG and to an extent UI and maybe just OAU will be the public universities that could have such an alumna these days. |
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Those companies you admire, na people like these dey work for there. You can see it for yourself.
Of course...Daddy & Mummy paid their own university fees from Nigeria. Seriously, it was a revelatory moment even though I went to university with some of these people, I never thought much about it till that very moment.