₦airaland Forum

People say it's the weather/sun yet folks in Barbados, Bahamas and Bermuda look much refined than our people. Singaporean Chinese have a much finer face than Mainland Chinese. The major reasons are wealth accumulation, long time prosperity, developed infrastructure etc.

For one, the way we perform activities in Nigeria tend to be crude and painstaking.

Agbegbaorogboye:
Is this a joke or what? Even FG pays nurses above 200k and you're here calling 50k. Or do you mean 50k dollars

I stated it. I didn't see 100K salary o. Every figure was below 100K.

What employment level of nurses receive 200K?

tuoyoojo:
China said they would fight to the end

China and US need each other but trump wants to bully his way to dominance but China is no push over

The worse that can happen would soon happen, all trades with the two nations would stop. If that happens both of them would bleed profusely It is a useless war that would achieve nothing They tried sanctions against Russia and Russia still prospered. US wan test the mic on china

They expect every country to fall to its knees. If Russia couldn't, China definitely wouldn't. I'm sure the proposed deal with Russia to go against China didn't work as planned.

yinkeys:
Our women are gradually copying African American women
Basically what they see on tv & social media

Men win again. Just undergo vasectomy and maintain financial stability.

Agbegbaorogboye:
How much do they pay?

Less than 50K. The highest I saw was 70K. In fact, it was stated that Evercare reduced its salaries when the management noticed it was way higher than what other top hospitals paid. Check twitter "Evercare hospital salary", "nurses salaries Nigeria" on Twitter.

tunapawizzy:
win-win no time...we will begin to see young girls(especially Nurses that can leave a job and easily get another one they get back to the US) do some form of temporary japada to Nigeria, before she exhausts 10 to 15kUSD, she go see sensible guy. Lots of skilled, serious-minded young boys between 23 and 35 are looking for ways to leave.

This one is actually regular. There are tweets about it - Nigerian nurses move back to Nigeria to get married and apply on behalf of the men to join them in the UK.

They honestly stand no chance in the dating market with Black British ladies. The competition is fierce.

I thought marriage was unimportant ni 🥱

ANAELEemm:
hhhh

Lol. The person you quoted isn't a poor man either. Why do you people believe every Nairalander is poor, jobless and wretched?

Artiiclebeast:
I know the lady in question. She isn't just uprooting and transplanting herself back to Nigeria. She has been visiting and building up businesses in Nigeria already and has been in the U.S. for 8 years or thereabouts.

It's her choice and needs to be respected. And if anything goes south, she can always find her way back for a refresh. So, take note.

Thanks for your honesty. We need more of this honesty when we air opinions on Obasanjo Internet.

Since na eight years, she should possess a Green Card at minimum. As others have opined, this and many more are the aspect they don't divulge.

yinkeys:
Baby mama culture is what our women will become if our society was fully liberal & you allow women totally choose who they wish to be with, without family interference
They love play boys, drug dealers,swag, gang bangers, dudes with all sorts of tattoos etc
Basically households with no fathers
A large percent of those liberal people sleep around, they don’t take religion, marriage, culture seriously until when they’re old/unattractive
Women with multiple baby daddies etc
Look up hybristophilia if you think I’m lying
I’m not saying this doesn’t exist in Nigeria, but our patriarchal society largely minimizes this

I wonder what TwitterNG feminists have to say about this. This description fits Lekki-Ajah axis and Owerri with Asaba/Benin/Warri behind them.

yinkeys:
She’s made & saved a tangible amount
They don’t owe people there monthly unlike the labour & human rights laws that are non functional here
Nurses are well compensated for their work there, can a regular nurse over here rent a 500k a year clean apartment lol
Lately it appears there’s a paid agenda for this rubbish advising people not to travel out
Her chances of finding a husband here is higher though, it’s due to culture. Black American dudes see through females games and play around too

So what options do African American women have? Na so e toff for Black women to marry in the US?

Angelfrost:
Of course, it is a brutal world out there that eats up the gullible and financially naive.

Isn't that the whole purpose of relocating for most Nigerians?!! Gone are the days when people relocate with no plans to return... The idea is to go there, secure as much money as you can earn, get the citizenship, and relocate funds and eventually yourself back to your country. Why would any adult born and raised in Nigeria want to retire and die abroad?!! Except he has nothing waiting on him back here.

There are many o. Mostly women. A whole lot in Europe

CoronaVirusPro:
Let me use a cheap example- Having a home in Nigeria will give you life time security. In the US, you can buy a million dollar house today cash down, and lose it within a year just because you you failed to pay property tax.

Have you heard where hospital collected someone’s house in Nigeria? In the US, when your debt is passed to collectors, a lien is coming for your house.

Have seen a Nigeria student heavily indebted to the system for studying Engineering or medicine? It’s a norm in the US. It a system than cannot give you peace of mind even when you try to fake it. Even while sleeping, you running.

With the series of demolition and seizure of properties in most parts of Nigeria, that does not hold again.

tunapawizzy:
Sister Judith is a Registered US Nurse
- Sister Judith has a US passport
- Sister Judith has been single, possibly on low rent in US while cashing out steady for years
- Sister Judith with her money and US passport cannot put herself out there in Nigeria for 2 years and not find a sane young man(REASONABLE one o, not yahoo boy or lowlifers)
-Reasonable boy too managing with his decent job with decent income of 250k-350k/month will not see Sister Judith's green flag and not rush her, considering the relationship will come with likelihood of US residency. If the boy get better IT skill- the idea of sister Judith a US citizen will look to him like-"this is God sending me an angel to reward me for all the wahala PDP and APC have put me through
- Dont forget Sister Judith is a registered US nurse, if she steps foot on US soil on a Sunday morning, there is a very high possibility that she will resume as a Nurse somewhere by Monday Morning.

Sister Judith is living her life on a working template. Go abroad, secure papers, go back home, get a reasonable boy, after he has successfully impreganated you, bring him to the US as husband. The worst that will happen to sister Judith is that the boy will leave her- but child support will be sure.

If your profile is not similar to sister Judith's, dont mind Sister Judith, customize your own path.

Most likely the way my secondary school classmate got married to a Nigerian living in the US and in less than a year they moved to the US.

Amalekki:
Most of those houses are owned by people currently or previously in government or those connected with those in government. Most of them go broke in a matter of years and those properties often get sold to those returning or investing from abroad. I know this for a fact because I am from a family of age-long real estate brokers. A large chunk of real estate in Nigeria is a competition between diaspora people and our government thieves. Also, many companies that you see out there are with foreign-based investors and partners.

Corroborates the report by Business Day: https://businessday.ng/real-estate/article/70-of-nigerias-real-estate-investment-from-diaspora-expert/

Thank God for facts and figures, not fats and figos

123yes:
It is lazy people that relocates abroad for better life. People are making more money here than those living abroad. All the properties, companies scattered all over Nigeria, Lagos, pH, kano, Kaduna, Enugu , Onitsha, Abuja etc. How many of them are owned by people living abroad.

Actually, there is a report on Businessday.ng that showed 70%+ of the real estate deals in Nigeria are financed by those in the abroad.

https://businessday.ng/real-estate/article/70-of-nigerias-real-estate-investment-from-diaspora-expert/

Agbegbaorogboye:
I said by Nigerian standards
Nurses are well paid by Nigerian standards

No, they aren't. And worse so for someone who has gotten used to a Western style of living.

Please ask how much Evercare and Co pay. Why did many flee to the UK?

Another japada story. The road to 2030 continues...

Agbegbaorogboye:
If she's really a registered nurse, getting a good paying job won't be difficult for her in Nigeria
At least by Nigerian standards
There's a dearth of top level professionals in Nigeria's health sector

Nurses are poorly remunerated in Nigeria. Even at top hospitals such as Nordica and Evercare, nurses are poorly paid. The man you quoted is married to a doctor. My sister is a nurse. The United States is one of the few countries where nurses are well paid globally. Nursing isn't a lucrative career in most parts of the world. In fact, if not for Covid-19, it was not so essential.

Goke7:
Who is ripping US off? How can poorer countries rip off the world’s largest economy?

It’s either the world’s largest economy is no longer able to compete globally or wants to steal more. All those talk of rip off is trash

We agree on one thing.

hosemujica:
It’s a long story but let me give you a hint. Back in the late 80s and early 90s the world was scared that the population explosion in China could be a big problem if the economic situation doesn’t improve fast .

Then they all agreed “ west” ,’with Clinton being the chief instigator ‘ that they are going to stop isolating China and admit them into the WTO and give them the ‘developing economy’ status and then allow them to produce all the little things that US don’t want to produce eg. pins, needles , towels and stuff like that

If you are with the WTO as a developing economic it means you can ship to a member state at a 25% tariff and boom China rode on that to become second world economy until 2016 when Trump cancelled that deal.

Think about it China has been rode on the ‘ under developing economy’ umbrella to feed fat up until 2016 . How can the second largest economy in the world still be enjoying the benefit reserves for underdeveloped economies like Nigeria and Angola.

The truth is: the West never expected or wished China develop itself to compete with them. The thing is, no one has the monopoly to advanced development.

Why and how come the population narrative towards the Chinese doesn't or hasn't applied to Africa? Why did the West prop up China rather than nearby African nations? You think we would ever challenge the West if we got so much economic favours as the Chinese did?
Well, ntoor. China isn't Africa. The West should deal with the new kid on the bloc.

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BTW, the embrace of China was a way to get at Russia. The hope was that as the Chinese got wealthier and dependent on Western markets, it would become a "liberal democracy". Where Liberal Democracy = ease of dividing and conquering the country.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Bring it on.. China is not your European or Middle East satellite/vassal Country that you can bully or threaten with tariff. They said they're ready for any type of war against the US.
Meanwhile, Trump has extended TikTok operation in the US for 75 days after the initial 30 days expired. You can't threaten or bully China.

Thank man! The West thinks China is Africa. Do me, do you. No one has the monopoly to be mad. Let's be mad simultaneously!

I love this trade war.

In return, the Chinese will raise theirs. The US has no right to bully other countries.

Henix:
Can you be able to live in today's Gombe and Bauchi as you are?

As a businessman sourcing from those states, yes.

Henix:
500k can't give u a quality life in today's Nigeria, even if u are living in Northern state.

C'mon! Isn't that an exaggeration? Let's leave out Kano and Kaduna. Do you mean 500K won't go a long way in Gombe and Bauchi?

Meanwhile, after all that, u will still be living in fear because of high insecurity in the country.

That is a valid reason to choose London sha.

I will choose 2k in London, for the sake of my sanity, access to quality health care, and the future of my kids.

This "future of my kids" always sounds funny to me these days. Before, it was a valid reason, but not anymore. I have my own life to live to the fullest first. A major reason I am all for fewer children, minimum one, maximum two.

RodgersAkpafu:
As per your second paragraph
Global standard of living is gonna plummet IF the globalisation ship wrecks
What the Americans will never admit is that while globalisation was (almost) mutually beneficial across the board
USA 🇺🇸 was the greatest beneficiary Exportation of inflation Enjoyment of MASSIVE consumer surplus over 40 years Technology transfer (via stealing top talent from other countries)
New markets for its services
Cultural influence All that Trump prolly don't know this
But it's the fact

I believe they acknowledge these accomplishments, but they see China's rise as a greater threat regardless of the benefits they derive from its manufacturing prowess.

RodgersAkpafu:
Trump is a mad man, bull in a China shop *pun intended* coming to destroy everything

Regardless of which side you support, what is very clear is that both parties are beyond bleeped.

China is about to lose DRC to the Americans
And America is about to lose face in the Pacific Asian region 🙄

Damn

Losing DRC will hurt the Chinese so badly, and I must confess, it is a smart and swift move by Trump. I won't be surprised if he funded the Rwandans to press deeply into the DRC, knowing the latter would seek help and China won't come to its rescue. But years of Chinese investments and buildup are about to go down the drain.

For goodness sakes, what's ahead is very scary, because if this globalisation ship get ship wrecked, it's gonna be a free for all

How exactly? The only way I see it being bad is that we didn't take advantage of it when it was booming. But then, Western countries offshored their manufacturing to Asia rather than Africa, which is closer and share certain cultural and historical connections. So ntorr to them that Asians have beaten them to manufacturing.

Lexcott:
Hello Boss, which school can I choose for Msc Cybersecurity in Japan.

It is dependent on your grade and focus on research. MSc courses in STEM fields are research-based rather than taught as in the UK. It's two years, not one year. It is your responsibility to search for a school. The Internet is there. Please go through this thread.

The only tip I can offer is to target national universities, and if you don't have enough funds or scholarships, target universities outside the Tokyo, Osaka and Kyoto areas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_universities_in_Japan

I won't lie; I find it very annoying when someone asks which school one can choose for an MSc, whereas a simple Google search of "masters in cybersecurity in Japanese universities" would bring forth results.

3Csbutterfly:
She doesn’t like talking about sex (hence why she was able to remind me about the tear during childbirth), but we’ll discuss it when she returns home. Honestly, I’m getting tired already, but I believe we can still work on these imbalances.

No vex o, una no date before una marry? You did not get to know this before proposing to her?

When a woman I am talking to tells me she does not like sex, I write her off regarding anything romantic.

VanuatuWycombe:
They are now being managed by another law firm.
The man is now in Angola. He had to marry another wife.

Okay. Thanks.

VanuatuWycombe:
It is what we have seen.

There hasn’t been any serious change. When they return from their road trips, they bath, eat and drink with friends, gist or do ’business’ gossiping all day before they go carry women at night. One even told me all he needs is to go and change a few $$$ from his currency flipping/arbitrage business.

Okay.

Hasn't that business died off since Emi Lokan devalued the naira and removed petroleum subsidy?

VanuatuWycombe:
😝😝 Relax, man! Dem never run you street. She’s testing you. She would fi owó bá e seré gan. You go chop her nkwobi too. By the way, dem full my street. The day I saw my landlord’s wife in gym dress, I told my wife that this woman is gone. Come see curvy and soft yansh inside gym clothe, shaking gbirigbiri. Woman wey don fine before.

Believe me, e no reach 6 months, na divorce straight. This is a lawyer woman who married an illiterate Ibo business man. Na the man sponsor am go school o. Na she dey manage all husband properties o. Na so she take leave her children. The least among them was 17 years then.
As I dey chat you, na one very young army captain wey dem dey gym together dey latos kabash the woman.
Her former husband wan diè because e still dey do am like magic.

I am curious, what happened to his properties and businesses?

emmaodet:
This is true.
I go to gym regularly and I know what goes on there.
Using myself as a case study, met a lady at the gym in February and from there we started flowing.
Later got to know she is married with 3 children........ Jesuuuuuuu!!!
If you see this madam, heavy duty, double exhaust............ In my mind I was just screaming Emmaaaaaaaaa!!! Your net don catch Arogidigba !!!!
Nn hostel.
Told me we should go out to see many places in the city and other things.
To make long story short, she asked me for a soft loan of 300k just the second time of we meeting at the gym.
Imagine, Just imagine that.
But your hubby is okay now. She said she wants to add to her money to execute some biz.
Told her don't have because I wasn't okay with the way things were going and moving so fast but had to grant her 200k.
She promised to pay back a week later.
Na the matter I still dey up till now since February.
One week is over 1 month with so many excuses.
I guess wan ti gbe mi ni handicap.
They don run me street.

Number rule I have come to keep: never lend a woman money. No matter what, even if she wants to die. The alternative is to give her funds you can let go of. In this case, say 50K.

The number two is that this is a major reason I advocate for paying directly for sex rather than this "let's go out for lunch or to the beach". Men get to pay more when they opt this model. If she wants sex and being paid for it, better. But asking for a loan, touring the city and still getting paid (she will demand for more funds) is a loss on the man's side.

I really wonder what Nigerian women use their money for.