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AlPeter:I'm talking of CU...and no FA academy in my area cannot be 1.2m if not noone will come..just joking people will go if its 4m thas becos of the intangible assets. ..codetemplar come and learn oooo..yes I agree as regards the structure but also there r incentives and allocations and also lifelong accruals...even structured businesses are such that the founders cannot just dip hand and collect but the point is he calls the shots ![]() |
CodeTemplar:How land is treated in the books of schools ![]() Wow boy you should apply for scalarship in FA..You need it...I won't respond to you again your IQ is questionable ![]() Be intelligent bro at least d man you fighting for is..y hasn't it robbed off on you? ![]() |
HigherEd:You r so ignorant..I have been saying it since that's it's only company publicly quoted that it regulated is your church public? For you to compare UBA and trustees shows me you are dumb and not informed ![]() You guys argue ignorantly? Chaiiiii..just negodu wetin you dey talk ![]() UBA is a PLC and the workings of PLC are not such with incorporated or LTD.... LEARN BRO LEARN sack Oyedepo? Joker |
AlPeter:CU charges at a premium...extremely expensive so tell me where the subsidy is? I know they have allocated space for scholarship and what not but like I said small space that the deacons fraudulently allocate |
HigherEd:With this comment I'm certain you don't Ave a registered LTD ![]() WHEN you register a Ltd who do you use as directors...for one man business they use their children or relatives and allocate share freely..this is just for regulatory purposes...the real owners know themselves same is applicable to churches....if I hear them dissolve trustees.. You are just sounding smart but don't have real life experiences..it's only in publicly quoted companies ie companies that can trade of the stock market that is heavily applicable and regulsted too..the board is dissolved after a tenor say 5 years and new board inungurated...but in your church d same people can sit as trustees till eternity unless there is disagreement and is kicked out I'M done trying to education you Bro. ..you just have book knowledge but not practical..you have been brainwashed by your father in the lord ![]() |
Sibrah:There r no subsidiaries on the schools..and yes in the next 20 years the value of land will read in their balance sheet at prevailing market rate and infact starting from their next balance sheet as fixed assets must reflect...have you seen a balance sheet before ..I think not ![]() |
jesmond3945:And you sir talk like a job seeker ..I think my problem is I'm in convo with babies in business.,men who don't know nothing about business..we walk the talk..Lemme educate you..education is a viable business for any business minded individual who has the capital to venture in and knowledge to oprerate same..now church have the intangible assets and human capital which is part of the foundation to run a school hence making many churches run educational organisations.. Iz like a mechanic who branches out to selling parts,.he already has the clientele base to sell the part too. thats utilising your value chain in production These schools must run on their own meaning the income statement must be more than expenses..initially the schools might need intervention for 1 or 2 years it depends but Oyedepo is awash with fresh funds from the sheeple...some school owhere get dis from loans or from their personal balance sheet to intervene in the business ![]() The truth is the schools are good and meeting a need but it's like a business bro...and a business must make money and be profitable..it's not an NGO and it runs fully on a profitable business model Your father in the Lord gets these monies for free... |
HigherEd:Let me educate you since you refuse to be smart..,a board of directors for a publicly quoted company like banks are nominated by the stakeholders or share holders to govern the affairs of the corporation but board of directors for a limited liability or private company are actually the shareholders hence in the CAC it carries the total allocated shares but for an NGO it's called board of trustees and if you have seen actual CAC registration of churches you will understand. Board of trustees for this churches function in the same capacity as shareholders hence I used the words interchangeable in my previous post...it's like saying a principal for a secondary school and head teacher for primary school and vice chancellor for a uni ..same roles different preview...A banker in the house can assist me to clear your ignorance..most churches have the names of their wife and children as the board as I'm privy to churches CAC being an account officer of a commercial bank for some years ![]() But as the churches grow and they branch out they include other trustees for new enterprises like say XYZ CHURCH UNITED owned by XYZ CHURCH WORLDWIDE which originally has the church founder and his family as trustees.....so in essense XYZ CHURCH WORLDWIDE owns XYZ CHURCH UNITED.....now LFC CHURCH owns the school but who are the trustees of LFC and who is the principal...Oyedepo is the owner of winners sir beleive it or not...his the owner of all the school and everything..,abi iz it for you family ![]() There is always a parent company or church name 5HAT every other thing is linked back to ..even if CU is registered and the board of trustees does not have Oyedepo name,,,CU is owned by a parent body that has OYEDEPO sitting as the principal office of the board of trustee ..that's how it works like shell companies..you have to unveil all the shells to get the actual owner the purpose is to deceive uninformed people like you who think the church is owned by Father Son and Holy Spirit ![]() Brain washed individual |
Doktajay5:He is doing what is expected of any business man not the church..his in it for the profit..you dont understand a business model..Ikorodu is densely populated and yes there are above averagely rich folks there? do you think ikorodu is a village? so banks that have branches in ikorodu and VGC nko? what r u insinuating that ikorodu is poverty prone.. Do you know alotta business owners reside in Ikorodu in their own houses Im really in a discuss with poor minds and guys who dont own or do business..how old are you bro? I give up atleast my comments are here for posterity and even if its only one person it liberates from falsehood, then the aim has been acheived..if Oyedepo used his own personal funds to start the school like Dangote or otedola or elumelu then i can applaude him but no he fleeced the flock to start a private business that even the sheeple cant benefit and you want me to appluade him? You guys never cease to amaze me ![]() |
Doktajay5:The truth is I was a member in winners and paid tithe every day of my life for like 13 years..honestly I don't pay again now for the past 1 year and my finances has grown rapidly ..im far from poor my friend but no need to brag...im blessed beyond what I have been in all my years of listening to the poisonous lies spewing out from Oyedepo ![]() Im blessed and if you are around Ogba gimme a call lemme me show you how blessed I am ...it means nothing to me unlike when I was in winners and making money was all I thought about because of the lies preached by Oyedepo..the competition in the church to drive fine cars so you can run to the pulpit to share you testimony ...you paying you way to get favour from God ..Truth is if the people stopped paying tithes and offering you father in the Lord will feel it oooo...do you know how much that church makes every sunday ..he will have major cardiac arrest ooohahahaYou are a baby Christian and don't understand the new convenant.. IM BLESSED BRO..BELEIVE ME...GOD HAS LIBERATED ME FROM THEIVES ON PULPITS AND SHOWN ME THE REAL GOSPEL..NOT THE GOSPEL OF MAMMON BUT THE REAL GOSPEL..I SINCERELY PRAY YOU GET TO KNOW IT ALSO You guys don't understand the God you claim to worship... |
HOW TO REGISTER AN NGO IN NIGERIA STEPS TO REGISTERING AN NGO IN NIGERIA Non-Government Organisations (NGOs), sometimes called Civil Society Organisations (CSOs). They are non-profit, voluntary citizen’s groups organised for a common interest and perform a variety of service and humanitarian functions. They are organised around specific issues, such as human rights, child rights, health care, etc. They are usually funded by donations and are run primarily by volunteers. They are exempt from tax in Nigeria. Although an NGO is not a commercial entity, the Corporate Affairs Commission views it as an entity which needs to be registered nonetheless. There is therefore a laid down process for the registration of NGOs in Nigeria. This article will give a step by step breakdown of the process. The registration of NGOs is a bit peculiar in that it can be done under Part A of the Companies and Allied Matters Act as a company limited by guarantee or under Part C of the Companies and Allied Matters Act as Incorporated Trustees. This article will explain the process to register an NGO under Part C. STEP 1 As with all registration of entities in Nigeria, the first step is to conduct a search on the name to find out if it is available and to reserve the name if available. It is always advisable to have at least 2 names, one alternate in case the primary name is unavailable. STEP 2 NGOs and CSOs are supposed to be governed and managed by what is known as a Board of Trustees. These are the equivalent of what a shareholder/director would be in an incorporated company. The Trustees of an NGO or a CSO are responsible for the management and direction of the association. STEP 3 Once you have your name approved and your board of trustees in place, the next step for the registration of a NGO in Nigeria is that the Trustees must publish a notification of their intention to register a NGO. This notice must be published in 3 newspapers, one of the newspapers being one that is widely circulated in the area where the organisation will be based. STEP 4 The next step is to complete and submit the application form. The application form is self-explanatory and asks for information like the approved name of the NGO, the registered address of the NGO, a brief description of the aims and objectives of the NGO. The form also requires the personal details of the Trustees, this includes their names, sex, nationality, permanent residential addresses, occupation etc. The completed application form must be submitted alongside other documentation which includes an application letter, the original newspaper publications, two copies of the NGO constitution, the minutes of the meeting where the trustees were appointed, 2 passport photographs of each Trustee etc. STEP 5 All the documentation is then reviewed by the CAC, and if there are no queries, the NGO is registered with the CAC and can then commence operation. |
Doktajay5:The man has built an empire for himself and his generations and if you read my post i never said his schools are bad infact there are good.. ;Dim only saying no one should thank him or give him a stand ovation because the services were paid for by the students..its wasnt cheap so its cash and carry good education...im not aspring to steal or defraud a people to reach my goal so no i dont even wanna be like Oyedepo..y? im very content as the bible says goldiness with contentment is great gain ..we brought nothing to this world and we will leave with nothing...Our greatest problem in Nigeria is ignorance..and you my friend are very ignorant..a man takes contributions from members and builds a school and incorporates same in his and associates name and you want me to thank him that his doing us all a favour? you guys are just ignorant and unlearned Just like op saying there r no shareholders in church..mumu guy..board of trustees are similar to shareholders..im only glad i taught people things this night..that codetemplar have learnt some economics and now op knows that even NGOs must have faces behind them just like a business..and the board of trustees calls the shots with a principal trustee nominated by same board.. Education is good and i appreciate myself being in the niche but iz just a business where u adding value and getting paid..just like the vulcaniser. the guys that sells parts in ladipo, the food merchant and thousands of business owners.. |
HigherEd:I maintain that you op are very limited in knowledge.. Churches that are registered in Nigeria under the CAC are registered as Incorporated Trustees and therefore fall under the NGO categorization NGOs and CSOs are supposed to be governed and managed by what is known as a Board of Trustees. These are the equivalent of what a shareholder/director would be in an incorporated company. The Trustees of an NGO or a CSO are responsible for the management and direction of the association. So when i meant shareholders i meant board of trustees which always has their names in order of priority or prinicipal role of the NGO.. Learn bro..learn... |
HigherEd:Yes he did...threating tithe and offering so he can build schools that will make profit for himself..the profit that wont be shared to the real shareholders(members that paid tithe and offering) His stealing from Gods people and the sheeple don't even realise it instead they are thanking him ![]() Lazy Christians that wont study their bible and realise the deceit and scam that is perpetrated daily on the pulpit |
HigherEd:This shows how dumb you are..dont you know a church must be registered with CAC and the name of principal officers stated when opening an account with a commercial bank? the signatories and the mandate of executing withdrawal well stated? With the signatories and a board of trustee with each allocated stake? Ignoranus..you guys think its all spiritual forgetting the financial leg must be tidied up.. If you don't know know today..churches run like any other company financially and the commercial banks treat them as such..there r no special accounts for churches but the same account a business man will open or an NGO or any LTD will open is the same a church will open with the same mandates and prinical officer..or you think Holy Spirit will be signing the church cheques ![]() Blind ignorant guy |
gobuchinny:Read and understand...intangible assets are not fixed assets like land atleast na my quote be dat...you clearly have comprehension problems |
CodeTemplar:did I imply it or say it..confused dude |
CodeTemplar:see how you contradict yourself..thought you said I didn't say it but implied it..now in this post you r saying I said..please show us where I said land and building are intangible assets.. Ive been schooling you in economics since so how can your lecturer say such rubbish ![]() |
CodeTemplar:You are daft but I m guessing you already know.. so having a foundation means you must own a school ![]() Btw the masons have schools and hospitals (that are subsidised) |
CodeTemplar:so from my explanation are you telling me you don't still understand my position You ask alotta silly questions I wonder how your lecturers coped ![]() |
CodeTemplar:so from these my quotes you quoted are you saying I implied that intangible assets are linked to land?? ![]() Mehn your case na sorry |
CodeTemplar: Land is not depreciated because land is assumed to have an unlimited useful life. Other long-lived assets such as land improvements, buildings, furnishings, equipment, etc. have limited useful lives. Therefore, the costs of those assets must be allocated to those limited accounting periods But I know you can never understand the above statement but let me leave you in that state of confusion..you will come and say that I implied that the limited accounting period is the cost of fixed assets ![]() |
CodeTemplar:You are not smart my man..even yahoo boys have foundations..atheist have foundations ![]() So whats special in your man of gold having a foundation? the free masons have foundations even ogboni has foundations ![]() |
jesmond3945:Bros your point fruther emphasises my points that its a business..simple so no one should come here and expect us to thank him...his spending money to make more money sir.. Im a business man and i know this..anyone saying his doing this because he loves education is greatly deceived..the man is a business man..its called diversification of income...i give it to him..his smart and intelligent..and a business man in to make profit You say money is not everything but yet the fees are over the roof.. Also remember that the monies gotten from the services on sunday alone can cater for operational expenses for his schools so he can actually afford to make it free or atleast subsidize it..but greed wont allow him ![]() |
HigherEd: we actually do CSR and offer subsided scholarships for staff children..they pay about 25% of tution..we have some students that have been given scholarship from the community but on merit.. ![]() But remember we are a real business and got the seed capital from our family balance sheet so we must break even..Oyedepo on the other hand stole the commonwealth to set up a school that will generate proceeds for him and his generations for ever ![]() A school that the poor and wretched members and trust me there are many in that church cannot attend ![]() What a scam..you tax the people and the same people cannot attend the school..people that give their all..some drop all their monies in the basket and walk home and remain poor.....atleast make it free for the members forget the non members. Slave mentality and you expect us to thank him...taaaaaaaaaa… WAKE UP |
CodeTemplar:HAA ..everything you draw conclusions from must be what I posted naaw.Show me the implying post ![]() All talk no substance... If I implied such like how you linked amortization to land then I must go back to my economics teacher and collect my tuition fees for that course |
HigherEd:Your post is beret of wisdom...World Mission has majority shareholding as who? LFC has majority shareholding as who? don't be deceived by all the bureaucracy jargons...its owned by Him and His family..there incorporate it to go corporate for greater reach and accountability but that does not mean its not owned by him...World Mission cannot sneeze without Papa approving the sneeze ![]() Who told you Oyedepo only ventured into only school business..the funny thing is how ignorant even the members are...Oyedepo has business venture you and every lower cadre member will never know Dont be silly about the education business ...its easier for a church to venture into the educational arm than any other business because of the already existing human capital but i wonder if you understand what you just read..Thats y churches and schools have always been 5 and 6.. School business can be done by averagely rich and the super rich...which is evident in the fees paid sir.. Oyedepo has no flare for education if it wont profit him..people that have flare will subsidise it or make it free..the UK government have flare for education ![]() |
CodeTemplar:Quote me any where I said land and building are intangible assets ![]() I know I said too many things for your brain to comprehend so u mixed things up..please go back and read ALL my mentions and quote anywhere I implied land and buildings are intangible ..if you find send me you akkant number I will send you 20k and you have my word.. |
Ekealterego:My brother infact d thing tire me..the guy is not bright at all...just to dull to comprehend simple issues..if we come dey talk the proper accounting jargons I wonder if he will think person dey speak local dialect ![]() Amortization and depreciation kooo...immortality and segregation niii... ![]() |
CodeTemplar:You are irredeemable..an educated illiterate who has refused to gain knowledge...expose me how??first you dare talk of amortization and depression with land and you expect to understand the business of real estate? Your ignorance is bliss..please educate yourself and if you are in Lagos, Ogba to be precise, you can hit me up..i will take you on a tour of our school..built on sweat and real money not fraudulent monies from the commonwealth privatized to personal gains..its not a big school but very decent and caters to the needs of the community which we are paid for..now should the community thank me for providing a service im being paid forThe bolded is very funny...you are constantly exposing your ignorance and illetracy to any well informed reader on this thread by thinking of how to recover cost of construction or real estate from a long term investment ![]() Clowns everywhere |
CodeTemplar:Bros you see ehen..if I break down you stupidity from this post alone..even you sef no go believe how stupid you r.. Nigeria's case is simply hinged on kwaruption..infact forget the taxes..the revenue from crude oil is enough to provide free basic educations for the citizen so lets not even talk about Nigeria and if you want to use Nigeria's inadequacy to compare y ur papa wont do free schools for members then be my guest..it will invariable mean your papa is kwarupt like Nigeria ..where you find selfish politicans cornering the commonwealth of a nation...now those that sound fimilar to you..Oyedepo cornering the commonwealth of the church for his personal gains ![]() BTW Nigeria with all its flaws has subsidized education at the primary secondary and even tertiary levels and can be afforded by a braoder spectrum of the citizenry unlike you papa`s business..so whats your point again? |
RALPHOW:Truelly faith academy is more affordable I beleive as i dont have much details on their fees..my issue is with CU as i am privy to the cost and the population spread of the students...you find alotta muslims, children of politicians, the rich and also their members but that school was not built with the members in mind. ![]() |
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