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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by gobuchinny: 5:13pm On Oct 21, 2019
MuttleyLaff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsYEiYUP_OI

I knew that underneath, you're flesh and blood, with sweet human kindness flowing in your veins. You're a good 'un. I knew all that your bravado nah front and wash, lol. You see, you and I sabi and understand each other gobuchinny, because people like you and I give as good as we get. If na to do rough play, we dey there, if na to do ajebo and gelato, we dey there, lol. Nwanne, did you hear anyone say anything about apologies, please tell the person not to be daft. Me, I get strong chin, but maybe I am like that dog in the above clip, my bark is loud and stronger so I dont bite, lol.

Nwanne, we dont have to agree on everything, this is even by a God design, look at your fingers are they equal in lenght, hmm? Of course not, but they only become equal and tip to tip only when they bend

Enoch and the likes are more of strong meat? Face palm, smh, pull the other leg. The Book of Enoch and the likes are serious risks to the health of a son of God/daughter of God, lol wink wink.
grin. You cant judge what you haven't read brother. Even in science, you test theories to race hypothesis then laws of science. you must test all spirits first. You should read it first as that's the only way to truly know.

That book does not in any way speak against Christianity. In fact it speaks about Christ. Any book that confirms scriptures 100% cannot be accursed. And I mean 100%. It foretells the birthing of the nation of Israel and the coming of the Messiah till the end of the world and everlasting judgement sad. But anyways. As long as you beleive in Yeshua that fine with me. But I recommend that book to anyone who is curious to understand mysteries as it explains alot. Just like the book of Jasher and other apocrypha.

Cheers
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by gobuchinny: 4:10pm On Oct 21, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
Whether you are talking spiritually or physically, it still is your father, who is the boy I blame who didn't see to it that you got the necessary home training and decorum you so badly lack. Now scram and dont ever in your life again cross path with me. Mtcheww angry angry angry
Hey muttey man. Sorry for calling you a boy. No need for all the bad blood. I have no issues with you bruv. We just dont agree on the glorious book of Enoch. Atleast you beleive in the conventional bible and that's fine with me. Enoch n d likes r more of strong meat. Reading it or not has nothing to do with a better relationship with Elohim. After all He is the reason for this discuss. My apologies once again. wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by gobuchinny: 11:13am On Oct 21, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
Your father is the boy who should have given you the necessary home training you obviously lack. angry angry angry
Dont take it personal. You r a boy in spiritual matters. Like my son or daughter grin. How I explain God to them? Yes that how you r. Not in age bro so no need to be disturbing my father grin.

You might be 80 yrs for all I care but still a boy. Deal with it. Comment closed. Your foolishness is beginning to weary me.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by gobuchinny: 10:13am On Oct 21, 2019
OkCornel:
Gobuchinny, see more jokes from this clown cheesy cheesy

Job 38 v 7 happened after the flood, oh my goodness...wetin be this? cheesy cheesy
My man forget that boy. I wont even respond to him again. grin. The guy na confirm clown.

So much proofs yet no wisdom. So sons of God that God spoke about in Job 38 were who then? Sons of Seth also? A narrative God was giving to Job about happenings before the formation of man or any living thing on earth. GOD was discussing with Job the creation of the earth. How the foundations were laid and how the sons of God rejoiced at such magnificent creation but here we have muttey clown darkening counsel grin grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by gobuchinny: 9:04am On Oct 21, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
I am old enough to be your father, yeah thats your old man who born you, are you satisfied now, hmm? Idiota angry angry angry

I used to google to help you see the stupidity and rass disregard to what the meaning of myths and legends are.

It is a myth to believe that angels impregnated human beings and made wives of them, but your thick and muddled up head doesnt seem capable of understanding anything of that sort.

All you are doing is making conjectures about a Paul fear of angels lusting after female human beings. How you pulled this out of your smelly dark rear end and made this stupid connection is beggars belief
I really didnt wanna respond but cant help your ignorance. Pls Google Jewish mythology to clear your ignorance grin. You only googled myth because you wanted to discredit my sound discuss but everytime you foolishness is made manifest grin.

If you dont beleive the Angel's impregnating man then how do u beleive a virgin giving birth grin. How do you beleive in 6 days creation grin. Can you even create your foolishness in 6 days? Talkless of the whole world grin. How do you beleive that there r angels and that some fell before man was ever created.

My friend you cannot separate what you beleive from what you dont beleive. Dont pick which is a myth or not. That means christianity is a myth grin because its steeped in the miraculous which man can never understand grin.

Study bro and understand. Dont be careless. Alot happened before you or your village existed grin. Its hidden in books..oooops. That y muttey cant know it grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by gobuchinny: 8:20am On Oct 21, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
[img]https://s3/images/mythMeaning.jpg[/img]

Smh, you have just made it clearer with this your another instalment of worthless, untrue, confused disjointed, absurd and nonsensical talk that you are very dishonest and ignoranus person

gobuchinny, what a ridiculous and funny joke you are. Please stop pretending to know the meaning of myth and/or legend when it is openly obvious that you dont know what their meanings are, smh. This time waster, time stealer and time killer is a kofam total distraction.
You are beyond redemption bro grin. What kind of a child is this lol. How old are you grin.

Didnt you see you own post. Concerning gods? Are we talking about gods or the God. Yahweh..the King of glory. The Lord of Spirits. Are we talking about superheroes like superman or spiderman? Ain't we talking of Angel's that excel in strength? Who are ministering Angel's? You clearly dont know what and who you worship grin.

All these church goer that never study to know this great Yahweh. You think God looks like man? If you behold the glory of God I'm sure it will be a myth to you. Clown.

Any intelligent human reading both our posts can clearly see that you just pick words in isolation so Paul that saw the 3rd heaven isnt it a myth or legend grin. Isaiah that saw the throne of God isn't it a myth to the gentiles grin grin.

Ajuwaya my son. As you were. I need to discuss with intelligent beings. You clearly are lacking in understanding. Please I'm not insulting you bro. Just my honest observation. Paul that said women sud cover their hairs cause of Angel's didnt know what he was saying? You can never explain these scripture brother.

I have tried to educate you but you r stiffnecked... grin if you can use google to find out defination of myth y didnt ypu google ancient Jewish beliefs in origins of demons and fallen angels cheesy.

My hand no dey again for your ignorance ooo. I don wash hand comot. Your blood, your life grin

@okcornel in done with this clown oo.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by gobuchinny: 5:24am On Oct 21, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
What a total load of codswallop, I just wasted my time to read up. You must be high on dry moin-moin leaves to think that circumcision is a Jewish myth or legend. Is it possible to unread the obfuscated garble and claim back my time used reading the senseless write up?
You clearly dont read to understand grin. I explained y its JEWISH myth and not gentile myth. So apostate jews started deceiving early christains with stories of either their genealogy or stories that they cook up to ensure the gentiles are ensnared to them. Or how they were related to King David by Blood or to Yeshua by blood. This was very common in their days. The circumcision part is just one of the ways they tried to control the gentile christains. Do I have to break things down everytime to you like I'm talking to a 4 yrs old huh. Cant you read btw d lined huh

Another one was the common myth that the resurrection had already occurred or that the gentiles could not attain salvation without works of the law. How is it that you dont know this things dear mutteylaff. This discussions are slowing me down cause you r so ignorant of history. Please read more let's have a balanced discuss grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by gobuchinny: 9:24pm On Oct 20, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
Speak for yourself and be more concerned about yourself than you ought for me

Here we go again, gobuchinny, please state where and when Paul understood the alleged sins of the Angels. Thank you in advance, smh.

"13That statement is true. For this reason, sharply correct believers so that they continue to have faith that is alive and well.
14They shouldn't pay attention to Jewish myths or commands given by people who are always rejecting the truth.
(i.e. no longer hold on to Jewish legends or don't pay any attention to any of those senseless Jewish stories and to human commandments)
"
- Titus 1:13-14

"Do not waste time arguing over godless ideas and old wives’ tales. Instead, train yourself to be godly.
(i.e. Don't have anything to do with worthless, senseless stories. Work hard to be truly religious)
"
- 1 Timothy 4:7

Do you know what advices Paul gave his protégé, Timothy, hmm gobuchinny?

No gobuchinny, I didnt know all that dear gobuchinny. Thank you very much for this invaluable dear information. I am going to quickly frame it up and place at the foot of my bed, so that every morning I wake up, it'll be the first thing my eyes sets upon

I see you actually dont know jack-shit about me, because if you did, you would have known I dont personally do arguments. I demolish arguments with incontrovertible facts.
You obviously just pick scripture out of isolation grin. The Jewish fables cannot fly because we are not jews grin. Let me educate you. During this period, The Jewish Christian's had a tendency to beleive that they r more important than gentile Christian's because truly salvation was from the jews. And Christ was a Son from Judah grin. Remember the issue on circumcision? And how the book of galatians was written to address this issues? How certain jews wanted the gentiles to obey the law. That my friend was part of the issue of that letter to Timothy.

What we r doing here is simply studying history which is what scripture is. Or dont you know the bible you read is historical events muttey cheesy. So these r not Jewish myths sir grin but actual verifiable facts like I said, if only you apply yourself to understand facts and truths.

That you dont know the beliefs of history is an issue to your own belief grin because if you think beliefs started in your lifetime and so whatever you see in your generation or lifetime is what has been obtaining since creation then you r greatly deceived grin

It like believing that America existed during Yeshua's time grin. There was an ancient civilization. Study to understand the world you live in as it existed long before you were born and will still exist long after you n me if Yeshua tarries cool

The funny thing is as Paul said. Things around us explains the spiritual things. If there were world conflicts and histories that shaped our world dont you think they might be spiritual conflicts that shaped the world also?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by gobuchinny: 7:32pm On Oct 20, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
gobuchinny why dont you stand up to me with this matter of who are the sons of God and let me have the opportunity of taking you to the cleaners, erhn?

Remember the full comment was:
"[i]As a matter of fact CaveAdullam, the sons of God, spoken of in Job 1:6, Job 2:1 and Job 38:7, plus even Genesis 6:2 and 6:4, lol, are male descendants from the lineage of Seth, originated from Adam, the first acknowledged and kofam, son

Please dont forget that and dont get my comment twisted with your half-truths of what my comment was

gobuchinny, I've already answered you above, so there is no need to repeat the same question again here. Also, it wasnt anything about the physical appearance of man and any ulterior effects with angels, as you seem to suggest

Jude nor Peter never verbatim quote the Book of Enoch. You are telling porkies and you know it.

No where in the Bible is the Book of Enoch ever written or spelled out in black an white. It is that much a pariah, it is nowhere, unlike other inspired books, in plain sight ever mentioned in the entirety of the Bible
Im concerned for you bro. You really need to read wide. Ypu guys just make comments without indepth study. Dont be lazy and study mehn.

Even Paul understood the sins of the Angel's. Hence that scripture that you cannot explain. This was common knowledge in the early church. Like it was during the time of Noah. Even the dark side knows it's TRUE. Hollywood knows this but muttey doesnt cheesy.

Do you know that the early Israelites believed in those Angel's that birthed giants whose souls are demons? Early apostolic father believed this also. I'm telling you facts that if you were an ardent reader, you would know this things. Its history and history cannot lie.

It's like an atheist in this day and age denying the existence of the man Jesus grin. That is foolishness because even Jewisth historians and records prove that Jesus lived and walked the earth. If his saying he doesnt beleive Yeshua is Christ then we know where his problem lies but not that He doesnt exist grin.infact there r records of his burial and that he wasn't buried like a criminal but as infact a noble. Did you know all this dear muttey.

So we dont really have an argument here unless we r dealing with facts not what you think of a book but what the beliefs handed down through the custodians of religion and the Only God (Israeleites)
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by gobuchinny: 6:35pm On Oct 20, 2019
OkCornel:
Hahahaha, another wild claim from Muttley. Muttley was a live witness when Peter and Jude were writing their letters to conclude the writings of Enoch was fictioncheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

Chai, who do Muttley this kain thing?
Iz alarming how with clear cut proofs, people still come up with wild explanations to justify their beliefs. Just negodu explanation on y Peter and Jude quoted Enoch. Like Peter them consulted Mutty before they wrote the books grin grin grin.

I love it when we discuss with facts and referrals.The fact that two other NT books quoted the book of Enoch VERBATIM shocked shocked. Is enough proof of its authenticity.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by gobuchinny: 6:29pm On Oct 20, 2019
OkCornel:
PLEASE CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN WHY THE BOOK OF ENOCH WAS FOUND ALONGSIDE OTHER NEW TESTAMENT BOOKS IN THE ANCIENT DEAD SEA SCROLLS? Hmmm?
I've been saying it that mutty no sabi history grin. The guy just like dey speak plenty English. Intelligent guy though but his not intelligent in spirituality. Dey use carnal eyes dey look the things of God.

The one that got me is that the sons of God r d descendants of Seth grin grin grin grin.

Funny guy
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by gobuchinny: 6:27pm On Oct 20, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
angry angry angry
Please can u explain 1 cor 11 vs 10. Y would Paul be so concerned about the physical appearance of man and the effects with the Angels. I'm curious to know you wild thoughts grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by gobuchinny: 6:06pm On Oct 20, 2019
OkCornel:
Nice... so the standard of the Evangelical Protestants suddenly becomes the standard for the books that were inspired by the Spirit of God?;

The first version of King James Bible (1611 version) had more than 66 books, the extra books were not inspired?

What of the Ethiopian Bible which is one of the oldest bibles around with over 80 books, are the extra books in there not also inspired?

1 As for the authenticity of the book of Enoch for example, it was found as part of the books in the dead sea scrolls alongside other ancient manuscripts that formed some of the books of the new testament we have today. Any objections to that?

2 The books of Peter and Jude made reference to the writings of Enoch, any objections to that?
I wonder if mutteylaff has read 1 cor 11 vs 10 grin. Y would Paul tell women to cover their hairs because of Angels grin. Oya Mutteylaff over to you oo.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by gobuchinny: 5:50pm On Oct 20, 2019
Mutteylaff my man. Whatever makes you sleep at night. From your responses you r clearly confused grin. To say peters writings were trying to warn people from believing that blessed book of Enoch.

If you knew some history, you would know that the early church read those Dead Sea scrolls.

What books do you think Abraham, and the patriarchs read? Dont you know you get to know about God through books? Even Jesus read books tho He was Christ..even the bible say Enoch walked with God. Do you think he will work with God and not have books? If you know God then you know that everyone that knows him writes grin. Because your God loves to write Himself. He wrote the 10 commandments by Himself shocked..so you think scripture as we know it started with the corrupt Catholics bringing 2gether different books to call it the bible? Scriptires have existed before the bible as we know it..Do you not know that God has been an author since creation? Allowing men to write down traditions and pass down to their children? Even one of d gospels said that the world wont contain the books if the story of Christ is to be written. grin

You r naive imagine saying the sons of God in job r d descendants of Seth grin grin

I wont respond to you on this matter bro. It's a waste of my time and yours. Hopefully we can agree on other things. I WILL FOREVER BE READKNG THIS GREAT BOOK THAT THE DEVIL TRIED TO ROB CHRISTIANITY OF. THE SAME BOOK THAT WAS QUOTED TWICE shocked. Twice mutteylaff grin in the newtestament and you r here explaining nonsense on y Jude and Peter quoted it as a warning to others not to beleive in the book. Tell yourself the truth, does that explanation make sense to even you?

You win bro. But let me first go and read that chapter on semyaza grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by gobuchinny: 11:18pm On Oct 19, 2019
Mutteylaff finds it difficult to believe in the origins of Spirits and celestial beings grin. That the God He worships is Spirit and presides over Spirits. He cant beleive that angel like humans have a choice to obey or rebel against Elohim. That the first stars rebelled and were thrown down to earth and the second stars were ensnared by lust for women grin. That giants were born and the spirits of these giants are demons grin. Archaeology has proven that giants existed. I heard him ask one time how d Angel's consummated with man grin. Funny. Even now humans can change sex from Male to female so how is it difficult for celestial beings to do same?

That the Sun, moon, stars are a link/bridge between the realm of the Spirit and physical. Or how else do you think the sun suspends and doesn't drop on earth? How do you assume that the sun can power the whole earth and knows when to rise and set? Everyday, and on time grin. That my friend is not ordinary. So it is weird that Enoch talks about the Spirits of the stars and how they have a mind of their own? And how he saw the dwellings of these celestial beings?.

So man can preserve his words in books how do you assume the God of the whole world cant do same?

I saw you say the book of enoch is accursed. Paul said any one that preaches another gospel should be accursed. That book preaches Christ grin. It was read by the early church and hidden amongst the dead sea scrolls.The evil roman Catholics would have done worse if they had a chance. They would have put their own authored books if given the opportunity But remember the foolishness of God is wiser than men and God uses men to accomplish His will. Hence we have the bible as we know it but there r other books that were equally inspired and were quoted in the bible. Books are not deemed scripture by men but by God grin. You have not answered @okcornel question about Jude referencing Enoch. You really cant answer it cause it's as clear as day that these men read the book hence the referral.

if the book does not make you comfy den dont read it. I can however say that a true son of God desirous for more understanding of God will enjoy that book.
Politics › Re: Moshood Oshun: All Politicians Use Charms, Tie It On Their Waists by gobuchinny: 9:21am On Oct 19, 2019
MyVILLAGEpeople:
U dey mind the mumu. Make him go Benin or Kogi make him go see ogume there grin grin
grin
Sports › Re: Sir Alex Ferguson Accused Of Fixing Man Utd Vs Juventus UCL Game For A Rolex by gobuchinny: 6:43am On Oct 19, 2019
luiscarter:
Asin Rolex that knows when christ is coming?
grin
Politics › Re: Moshood Oshun: All Politicians Use Charms, Tie It On Their Waists by gobuchinny: 3:13pm On Oct 18, 2019
MyVILLAGEpeople:
grin grin grin

Them never use beta otumokpo knack this one before
I dey tell you bro grin. D guy think say na the bronx, NY em dey. Dey form 50 cent. Kontinu.

If u like no go hide your head for inside God undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Was The Book Of Enoch Removed From The Bible? by gobuchinny: 9:08am On Oct 17, 2019
OkCornel:
Enoch 25 v 1-5;

1. And he said to me: 'Enoch, why do you ask me about the fragrance of the tree, and why do you wish to learn the truth?'
2. Then I answered him saying 'I wish to know everything but especially about this tree'
3. And he answered saying: 'This high mountain which you have seen, whose summit is like the throne of God, is His throne where the Holy Great One, the Lord of Glory, the Eternal King will sit, when He shall come to visit the earth with goodness.
4. And for this fragrant tree, no mortal is permitted to touch it until the great judgment, when He shall take vengeance on all and bring everything to its completion forever.
5. It shall be given to the righteous and holy. Its fruit shall be food for the Elect: it shall be transplanted to the holy place, to the temple of the Lord, the Eternal King.



Revelation 22 v 1-3;
1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:




Remind me again.... one book was definitely written before the other...


Cc: gobuchinny, nijabazaar, budaatum
I'm telling you brother. I have read that book twice and it still amazes me how the book encompasses genesis to revelation. I get a godly fear whenever I read it. Because it shows how great God is. You begin to wonder if it was written after the death of Christ but then you remember its Enoch. The 7th from Adam grin. It speaks of everything. From the forming of the nation of Israel, the destruction of the temple, the birth of Christ, His death and glory, the 2nd coming and then judgement of The first stars that fell(satan)and the second stars that fell and corrupted the earth and judgement of sinners. We are at the end times. The very end of times. We must be vigilant for the hour is come for the Son of man to be glorified. Amen
Christianity Etc › Re: Beware Of The Satanic Gospels Of Dr. Sunday Adelaja. Part 1. by gobuchinny: 11:18am On Oct 16, 2019
princevinco:
Of a truth, I pity and weep for Sunday Adelaja that a dynamic and vibrant minister of God, who God had used mightily before could now be turned into an empty shell or empty vessel that is now in the hand of the devil to mislead and led multitudes to hell as a result of his many false/ heretic and satanic Gospel he now preaches.

Personally, I have nothing personal against DSA except for these false and satanic gospels he now preaches, which are capable of misleading and leading thousands of Christians to backslide and go to hell.

Be it as it were, the Apostle Paul did not miss a word in what he said in Galatians 1:8-9 which says, but though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preaches any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. What Paul was trying to point out here is that any gospel outside the Bible or contrary to the Bible is another gospel and cursed is upon the person that preaches that.

Paul was saying that even if himself or an angel from heaven should preach any other gospel other than the earlier true gospel preached let the person be accursed.

In other words, the current teachings of Dr. Sunday Adelaja are contrary to the teachings of the Bible. As such, it means that DSA is preaching another gospel and is, therefore, a cursed man.

However, this article is not directed to DSA but rather it is a timely warning to Christians to beware of swallowing these false and satanic teachings of DSA.

My dear reader, I join the Apostle Paul in his admonition to Christian in 1 Timothy 1:19 which says, “Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck like DSA.

Apostle Paul went ahead to warn us in 2 Timothy 2:16 that we as Men Of God that we should shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness such as DSA is now teaching.

During the time of Apostle Paul, he gave an example, like Hymenaeus and Philetus whose teachings overthrow the faith of some Christians. 2 Timothy 2:17-18.

And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.

In other words, like Hymenaeus and Philetus, the heretic/false teachings of DSA are capable of overthrowing the faith of many Christians if they are not careful to run away from such poisonous satanic garbage that DSA is dishing out.

Why are the teachings DSA false and satanic? It is because they contradict what the Bible is embarassed teaching. DSA twists the meaning of Bible verses to support his false teachings. Any teachings that are drawing people away from God is satanic.

For instance, one of his false and satanic teachings is titled, “Why You Don’t Need God to Be Successful”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlZKkmBDHCk
And also his most current teaching that you don’t Need To Believe In God to Be Successful On Earth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7iWZMGmiAA&feature=push-sd&attr_tag=yiiusIcxH3y2jcpp%3A6
Remember Jesus warning about the rich fool of Luke 12:16-21 Then He spoke a parable to them, saying: "The ground of a certain rich man yielded plentifully.  "And he thought within himself, saying, 'What shall I do, since I have no room to store my crops?'

"So he said, 'I will do this: I will pull down my barns and build greater, and there I will store all my crops and my goods. 'And I will say to my soul, "Soul, you have many goods laid up for many years; take your ease; eat, drink, and be merry."'

"But God said to him, 'Fool! This night your soul will be required of you; then whose will those things be which you have provided?'  "So is he who lays up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God."

DSA's teachings are the same as saying that you don’t need God to be alive. By the way, why did Jesus come and suffered on the cross? John 10:10 “The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.
It is impossible for a Christian to be successful without God’s blessings as DSA want his gullible followers to believe.

As a Christian, Jesus himself said in John 15:5 “I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing”.

To unbelievers, the above teachings can be correct in the sense that many unbelievers don’t need God to be successful as they can do anything, including waste other people’s lives to be successful or selling their soul to satan.
This boy's apostasy and foolishness never ceases to amaze me. Though not a supporter of Adelaja as both he and the pulpit bandits his talking about are both one and the same grin.

Oga, You dont need God be be rich. Any fool can be rich hence the parable of the rich fool grin. A fool says in his heart there is no God? So how did the God he says does not exist make him rich or successful? Haven't you wondered that the people that control the worlds wealth DO NOT KNOW GOD? even nations that are wealthy dont kno God. France, USA, Canada..... look at Nigeria, with all the churches where r we? Most international corporations were founded on the greed of men or on faulty foundations of fraud which has nothing to do with God.

God has already placed all things to make anyone apply himself to success that y it's called wisdom of this world. For you to think that Jesus came to give you a life more abundant means a life of riches and worldly wealth shows how foolish and heretical you r grin. Really? Carnal things? That will perish on earth? So Jesus came to make you live a life more abundant in material things? There were no rich people before Christ came?

Its teachers like yourself that have left Nigeria backward. For you build 100k capacity churches to exploit the people and merchandise the gospel. Instead of building a factory and employ people like China, or Singapore we r here deceiving ourselves. grin.

All flesh will stand before God. Continue in your deception.
Christianity Etc › Re: Conversion Of Emperor Constantine To Christianity.Blessing Or Curse? by gobuchinny: 9:27am On Oct 16, 2019
sonmvayina:
Emperor Constantine did not convert to Christianity.... Emperor Constantine created it himself... He wanted a single religion for his empire... He called together the council of nicea, it was that council that created Jesus and Christianity....
Foolish talk of a blind man. Created Yeshua? grin grin. Even roman historian wrote on the killing of a Jewish criminal called christus grin.

Jewish history proves the existence of Yeshua so what's this foolish you r spitting huh.

Lazy man. You know history of your company and village but dont know the history of the world. Atleast simple google search will clear this great folloshness

Yeshua is real. He walked in this earth. When you die you will see His face. Because He is the best one that will judge you grin

Continue.
Christianity Etc › Re: Homosexuality, Lesbianism, All Other Sexual Pervasion Is Not Just A Sin But... by gobuchinny: 11:53am On Oct 13, 2019
Lonelypacifist6:
I'll say the last thing god should be concerned about is What People do in private, or who they chose to have sex with, a lot of killings are going on in public genocide terrorism famine Climate change and the likes, at least God gave human free will he/she shouldn't be bothered about what they do with it.
Oh my dear His not bothered grin. His only waiting so that when you die and are in torment forever you won't say u didnt know grin.

So carry on with the vaseline grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Six (6) People That Must Die For You To Have Success And Break Through Part 3. by gobuchinny: 8:50pm On Oct 12, 2019
princevinco:
MY DEAR, YOU ARE ENTITLED TO YOUR FOOLISH AND MYOPIC OPINION. MY COMMENT CLOSED.
Stiffnecked reprobate
Christianity Etc › Re: Six (6) People That Must Die For You To Have Success And Break Through Part 3. by gobuchinny: 1:23pm On Oct 12, 2019
princevinco:
Sorry, I can't go ahead to argue with an ignorant man about the mysteries of the kingdom. Luke 8:10 And he said, Unto you, it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand. Of a truth, you are making a blind argument instead of seeking to know what you don.t know. Please say something important.
Your heart is darkened grin. You are cursed to be a vessel unto destruction. For with everything I have said with biblical proofs you pick a scripture out of context to explain your village mystery grin same way an armed robbery or prostitute looking for money will pick the verse 'what you have to do, do quickly' to mean affirmation of their devilish desires grin. So the mystery spoken about is the mystery of the 6 people to kill abi grin grin grin. Clown

Dont you realise that the gospel of Jesus like all scripture is of no private or personal interpretation cheesy. Nothing is hidden as all has been laid open. The gospel is not yours. It was handed down by the apostles via the Holy Ghost. All your teaching must be according to this NT doctrines laid out by the apostles and contained in the scriptures grin. Your are teaching non sense and your own version of the gospel.

Continue. Your blood is on our head thou child of perdition grin. I wont waste my time with you as I beleive any real child of God would have seen through you rubbish and foolery.. I only genuinely pity the ignorant ones that will fall for your rubbish. But the truth is people r becoming awakened to the real gospel of Yeshua not some gospel put forward by wolves in sheep clothing who like to elevate themselves amongst their brethren claiming to receive a special revelation from God forgetting that we r all brethren and equal before God and in this era, God is revealed to ALL not some

Apostate clown
Christianity Etc › Re: Why All The Leaders Of These Big Churches Will Not Enter Heaven by gobuchinny: 7:39am On Oct 12, 2019
SchoolNaScam001:
Are you deputy God ?
Is not about that bro, it's about what is written in black and white in your bible. Or you never read it?grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Provoking The Oil Of Favor For Your Success And Breakthrough. 1 by gobuchinny:
princevinco:
@ obiekunie2
Of a truth, I don't blame you for all your grammatical blunders but blame your ignorance. I wish that you have something to offer with regard to my article, so arguing with you over nothing is a waste of time.
This man is just an apostate grin. A religious armed robber grin. I'm glad nairalanders are seeing through your rubbish posts. You r a reprobate with all your spiritual Fathers combined.

You r so concerned about people's spelling and grammar as if English language is what you will speak in heaven grin cheesy. Clown
Christianity Etc › Re: Six (6) People That Must Die For You To Have Success And Break Through Part 3. by gobuchinny:
princevinco:
If you want us to discuss the Bible, I have to be sure that you understand the post in the first. If you actually read and understand the post, please define the meaning of the three spiritual entities mentioned in the post(Athaliah, Ahithophel and Judas). Secondly, I will like you to define the word DOCTRINE. If you define them correctly, I will gladly accept to discuss the bible with you. Until then, it is a waste of time to go ahead to be arguing with spiritual ignorant folk like you.
That's my point sir. Your three spiritual entities are your village entities grin. Those entities are irrelevant to what Christ has done grin. You and your kind thrive from spreading fear and complicate the gospel not knowing that there is a simplicity of the gospel cheesy.

There is a pattern of the gospel as laid out by the apostles in the early church. No other foundation can be laid than that which has already been laid which is the blood of Yeshua. You dont need the blood of atila and the dragon grin

God has made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light. Col1 vs 12. He has translated us into the kingdom of His Son from darkness Col 1 vs 13 ;Ephesian 1 vs 2-4 tells us 'having blessed us with ALL spiritual blessings in heavenly places' get that. ALL spiritual blessings grin. No need to kill Atila and the dragon grin.

Please dont bother explaining nonsense as I'm not interested. I only came to point out your error and your complication of the already simplified gospel. I beleive any true beleiver would have seen already your flaws and arrogance in perverting scripture.

I'm sure if you will defend this rubbish you r preaching it's only old testament scriptures you can pull out grin. No NT just old because you and your type thrive off the old testament grin forgetting that its what it's called OLD covenant grin. There is a new grin which has the blood of Yeshua not rams and sheep and birds

Paul said if any man be it angels or spirit preach any other gospel which we have not preached let him be accursed. grin. You r preaching your village gospel.

Carry on. The true sons of Elohim knows an apostate from their post. And your sir, is an apostate cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Six (6) People That Must Die For You To Have Success And Break Through Part 3. by gobuchinny: 3:39am On Oct 11, 2019
princevinco:
PITY ON YOU, I NEED NOT JOIN TO CELEBRATE YOUR IGNORANCE OF THE HIGHEST ORDER. EVEN YOUR ENGLISH SPEAK VOLUME ABOUT YOUR PERSON. YOUR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING OF SPIRITUAL MATTERS IS YOUR GREATEST ON DOING. IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT YOU DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE ARTICLE IN THE FIRST PLACE AND THAT IS WHY YOUR SENSELESS REACTION.
If you r sure of this evil doctrine, then let's discuss d bible esp the NT doctrine grin. How is this d gospel? You r misleading people oh fake prophet ? R you sure you r practicing christianity or Judaism or traditionalism grin.

I just pity whoever listens to this rubbish but trust Nigerians naw abeg enlighten me thou that understands the spiritual grin.

Apostate somebody
Christianity Etc › Re: Six (6) People That Must Die For You To Have Success And Break Through Part 3. by gobuchinny: 7:27pm On Oct 10, 2019
princevinco:
Six (6) People That Must Die For You To Have Success And Break Through To Fulfill Your Destiny. Part 3.

We are still in the series of six (6) people that must die for you to have success and breakthrough to fulfill your destiny. In parts one and two of the series, we slaughtered Herod, Pharaoh and as well as Haman.

In this part three, therefore; we shall proceed to slaughter the last 3 persons that could hinder us from having breakthrough as to fulfill our destiny as long as they are alive. This time around, another person that must die is Athaliah.

Please, our background scripture is 2 kings 11:1-end. In that story, Joash was the king’s son that is to sit on the king’s throne, but Athaliah had destroyed other king’s sons and reigned instead.

Athaliah reigned until Jehoiada the high priest led the revolution of priests, which lead to the slaughter of Athaliah. It was not until Athaliah was slaughtered that Joash was able to mount the throne and start reigning.

MORE READING: http://www.destinymoulders.com/six-6-people-that-must-die-for-you-to-have-success-and-breakthrough-to-fulfill-your-destiny/#more-4839

Please, you should not show pity or mercy for Athaliah. Athaliah must die if you are ever going to sit on your throne to reign. Athaliah is any person or spiritual entity who is occupying your table or throne.

Your throne can be any of the things that rightfully belong to you, but they are in the hands of another person (Athaliah)

If Athaliah had not died, she would have continued to lay claim to the throne. For that reason, you as well, you have to revolt against the oppression and the reign of Athaliah on your throne by slaughtering her.

Bringing this home, please Athaliah is any person or spiritual entity that is occupying the rightful position that God has meant for you. For that reason, Athaliah must die.

After you slaughter Athaliah, the next person is Ahithophel. Ahithophel is that person or spiritual entity that are giving evil counsel against you. You may not slaughter Ahithophel directly.

Rather, as Ahithophel is such a proud man, so you aggressively pray and turn all the counsel of Ahithophel into foolishness, thereby forcing him to go and hang himself.

MORE READING: http://www.destinymoulders.com/wp-admin/post.php?post=4872&action=edit

In 2 Samuel 15:31which says, And one told David, saying, Ahithophel is among the conspirators with Absalom. And David said, O LORD, I pray thee, turn the counsel of Ahithophel into foolishness. In the same way, pray that the LORD turn the counsel of Ahithophel into foolishness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0xkk8muSEo

Please, the five people we slaughtered earlier may mean nothing if Judas is allowed to live. In other words, Judas is among the six people that must die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jH_uUbRdwE

FOR FULL ARTICLE PLEASE VISIT http://www.destinymoulders.com/six-6-people-that-must-die-for-you-to-have-success-and-break-through-to-fulfill-your-destiny-part-3/
Biko what type of rubbish doctrine is this naw? huh.

Why r dere so many spiritual criminals and apostates all over...are you so darkened that you preach this kind of doctrine? Are you living in the old testament or the new? What about d spirit of goliath? And spirit of ahab?, Pharoah nko? You r deluded and groping in the dark.

Is this the gospel? I mean the gospel of Yehsua? Did the apostle preach this? Isnt the death of Yeshua enough? Is His blood not enough? Y do you need the blood of Athiliah? These r all old testmant characters that have died and whose souls still exist.

REPENT THOU FAKE PROPHET SPEAKING WHEN HE HAS NOT SENT YOU. FOR THE END OF ALL FLESH IS AT HAND AND YOUR PORTION WILL BE SAME AS THE APOSTATE ANGELS.
Crime › Re: John Egla: RCCG Pastor Kidnapped In Nasarawa (Photo) by gobuchinny:
alphaNomega:
Of course Bible places are verified, but the stories? Just like Superman, we know the country most of his stories happen is America, but are his stories real?

Let me not bother you further. I guess you must be preparing for some religious programme in honour of your sky daddy.
I dont go to church (atleast not the type of church you r talking about were one man keeps telling you what he thinks about God without my input and elevating himself above all like he has a monopoly to God or has God's direct line grin, as the word is open for all the dissect)cause present church is corrupt I however know the God that created the world and the universe, stars and sun, moon and everything that you see that you and your science cannot create cheesy grin.

The bible is the most accurate history book. I am a student of history. The bloodline of Israel has been verified. Some of the archaelogical tablets found even has stories of battle some verbatim as seen in the bible grin. Abraham cenograph is very available for all to see. Some tribes can trace their origins to the peoples mentioned in the bible. There r proofs of giants

The bible has names of places and even tribes to its family level. Sodom and gomorrah has been verified. Do you know that nothing grows there? The groound has been tested and the soil is polluted with hydrocarbons and other trace metalsgrin.

The book of jasher is one of the oldest books along with the book of enoch. There is a world history. The Europeans can trace their ancestry to these tribes. You dont know history. You r careless for facts. The world knows this grin.

Who created gold? Do you know that no chemist can make gold grin,

The god of this world has blinded d eye of them that beleive not less the light of the glorious gospel of Christ should shine upon them.

Everything has a beginning and an end. You have a beginning and an end. Your car has a beginning and end, your hair, even cell division, mitosis and meiosis grin. Do you know that the world will be destroyed like in the days of Noah. Do you know that there r proves of the flooding? The earth has been kept in place by who? You? Clown.

There was a time the world didn't know about the world of microorganisms grin. There r like spirits you know. There r very present yet you dont see them with d ordinary eyes grin. So because our forefathers couldn't see them does it mean that world didnt always exist? The microbial world? How you have millions of microbes on and in you grin. Now we see it with advanced equipments. That's how your spiritual eye is. Without it you wont see nothing about the spirit. You r blind not knowing the world you live in is full of spirits. It has eaten many up and you will just be a statistic grin

Like I said. Enjoy your life and science while you have it. A time will come when you will be all alone about to die. Have you wondered how some well known atheist died grin and what they said. Some on the verge of passing over to the land of the death were so afraid. Read what the lady that witnessed anton lavey's death said. At the end of everything you will die alone. Make sure you trust your belief because you will need it to comfort you on the otherside grin. You think the world is just there for you to live your life and die? grin cheesy without accountability to a great God.

Let me tell you what will happen to you. You will live a very successful life to a good old age and then when you die you will discover that there is life after death like how ur PC crashes but still retains d memory. But it will be too late. This my last comment to you like I said I dont engage atheist because I think they r Fools grin just that your foolery was legendary so I broke my rules grin to engage you so your blood wont be on my head. I have enough issues with these apostate criminals who claim to be men of God but really r wolves in sheep clothing grin.

So my friend. AJUWAYA. as you were grin
Crime › Re: John Egla: RCCG Pastor Kidnapped In Nasarawa (Photo) by gobuchinny: 1:13pm On Oct 10, 2019
alphaNomega:
When we die, we can't do shít. A prison in Venezuela and an electric car are places and things people can physically confirm their existence, not some imaginary sky daddy. Bibles stories are no different from comic book stories unless you want to tell me Superman and Peter Pan are real.
Lol. Superman and Peter pan are fictions. Bible stories and places have been verified but you wont know cause u dont read grin. So many bible wars and places and people have been confirmed and verified by archaeologists grin.

There is a spiritual realm. Even the rich know this grin. I'm sure the leaders of your organisation know this grin but the sheaple dont.

There is pure evil in this world. It sure that there is a devil grin. Fallen Angel's? Giants? Even the elite knows this but you. A low level hustler does not know that this world is not what it seems. Spirits and the other realm exists grin.

Like I said bro. I cant convince you and you sure cant do same to me. I only engaged you because I noticed your foolery in insulting the Most High grin. But if you choose to continue, be my guest grin.
Crime › Re: John Egla: RCCG Pastor Kidnapped In Nasarawa (Photo) by gobuchinny: 12:39pm On Oct 10, 2019
alphaNomega:
Dude, I can't insult what does not exist. Do you want to know what happens at the end of life? Other people continue to live theirs!!!

Once you die, that is it. You are only remembered by your loved ones and the people you made a positive or negative impact on their lives e.g. Nelson Mandela and Sani Abacha respectively

Sleep is the closest humans ever get to death. Those moments you are not dreaming when you close your eyes in sleep is how the rest of eternity will be for you. No scorching heat, no gnashing of teeth, no fire and brimstone, and definitely no angelic choir.

Think.about.it.
Hmm. I have no issue with you being and atheists. I dont join words with them because we r not of the same sphere. You are carnal and earthly so when you pass u remain here. We on the other hand are spiritual and heavenly and we beleive that the spirit returns to God and the body to the earth grin.

Like I said I only spoke about your insults which is dangerous becks i perceive you r a young man. Dont cut ur days short in blasphemy grin.

Because you have never been to prison is Venezuela does not mean it does not exist grin. Becos you have never driven an electric car does not mean it does not exist. Because u were not born in d roman empire does not mean it never existed. Because you dont see God does not mean He doesn't exist. You are smart. Think about it urself. The organisation of nature.

If I enter you room well organized I will be a fool to think no one organized it, or no one designed it so grin.

We r not in the same realm. Enjoy your atheism only dont insult/blasphem the Most High.

You like me will die one day and the world will continue. When we die we will test our theories grin

Eternity is too long to be wrong grin

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