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Christianity EtcRe: The Bible Does Not Support Drinking Alcohol, Don't Let Anyone Fool You by gobuchinny: 2:25pm On Sep 08, 2019
gobuchinny:
Use google and educate yourself. In ancient Israel wine was alcoholic. It was not fruitwine grin fruit of the vine had alcohol grin
Genesis 9 vs 20. This proves even from the bible that everytime you see wine know its alcoholic

20 In those days Noah became a farmer, and he made a vine-garden. 21 And he took of the wine of it and was overcome by drink; and he was uncovered in his tent. 22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw his father unclothed, and gave news of it to his two brothers outside. 23 And Shem and Japheth took a robe, and putting it on their backs went in with their faces turned away, and put it over their father so that they might not see him unclothed.[1]

See that the wine was from the vine garden but Noah was overcome grin.. in order words he got drunk

Be a good teacher of the word and not a reprobate. You are not wiser than God stop preaching your own perverted gospel
Christianity EtcRe: The Bible Does Not Support Drinking Alcohol, Don't Let Anyone Fool You by gobuchinny: 2:14pm On Sep 08, 2019
alBHAGDADI:
He told Timothy to drink wine aka Fruit juice for his stomach ache, just we use orange to cure stomach ache today.

Nowhere did he tell anyone to drink alcohol.
Use google and educate yourself. In ancient Israel wine was alcoholic. It was not fruitwine grin fruit of the vine had alcohol grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Bible Does Not Support Drinking Alcohol, Don't Let Anyone Fool You by gobuchinny: 2:12pm On Sep 08, 2019
alBHAGDADI:
First, when Solomon said, “Do not be overly wicked” (Ecclesiastes 7:17—NKJV [“overwicked”—NIV; “overmuch wicked”—ASV]),

Did he mean to imply that a person can, with God’s approval, be moderately wicked? When Peter noted that pagans do not understand why Christians do not engage in the “same excess of riot” (1 Peter 4:4), did he mean moderate rioting was appropriate?

Therefore, "too much wine" stated there DOESN'T mean we can indulge in it but not in excess.

Paul was spotlighting an individual who is known for drinking freely of alcoholic beverages. He was saying that no such person should be put into the eldership. A parallel would be to make an observation about a person who carouses and parties every night
—“do not put such a man into the eldership!”
Overly wicked here means wicked for no cause. For instance when the children of Israel invaded enemy camps dont you know their enemies thought they(Israelites) were wicked? God told them to do things that we can say is wicked by today's standards but we know it's a righteous course. So yes, I can execute Gods judgement and you call me wicked but being wicked without course or reason can be read as overly.wicked

Example a lecturer see a final year student cheating and kicks him out. That paper is his last and his being kicked out means he can't graduate. To the student and friends d lecturer was wicked but to God and fellow lecturers he was just. Imagine the lecturer just kicked d student out without reason. THAT MY FRIEND IS OVERLY WICKED. You r not wiser that the bible. Dont try n explain away what you dont understand. Dont defend d bible allow it defend itself
Christianity EtcRe: The Bible Does Not Support Drinking Alcohol, Don't Let Anyone Fool You by gobuchinny: 2:05pm On Sep 08, 2019
alBHAGDADI:
First, when Solomon said, “Do not be overly wicked” (Ecclesiastes 7:17—NKJV [“overwicked”—NIV; “overmuch wicked”—ASV]),

Did he mean to imply that a person can, with God’s approval, be moderately wicked? When Peter noted that pagans do not understand why Christians do not engage in the “same excess of riot” (1 Peter 4:4), did he mean moderate rioting was appropriate?

Therefore, "too much wine" stated there DOESN'T mean we can indulge in it but not in excess.

Paul was spotlighting an individual who is known for drinking freely of alcoholic beverages. He was saying that no such person should be put into the eldership. A parallel would be to make an observation about a person who carouses and parties every night
—“do not put such a man into the eldership!”
Oga you are a liar and the father of it. Twisting scriptures to suit ur beliefs. Just negodu your rubbish explanation. Ok so he told Timothy to drink little wine, I'm sure you can explain also? He told elders dont drink at all and told deacons dont drink much and told Timothy to drink a little for his sickness and you r here explaining nonsense
Christianity EtcRe: The Bible Does Not Support Drinking Alcohol, Don't Let Anyone Fool You by gobuchinny: 1:56pm On Sep 08, 2019
Adroit144:
You better understand English.. there is nothing like alcoholic wine or non alcoholic wine . wine automatically means an alcoholic drink made from grape
He doesn't understand brother. He need a crash course in fermentation and wine production grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Bible Does Not Support Drinking Alcohol, Don't Let Anyone Fool You by gobuchinny: 1:55pm On Sep 08, 2019
alBHAGDADI:
Doesn't God have the right to demand for whatever he wants?
Continue to play God u hia. God's mediator and advocate ;Deut 14 vs 26 since you guys like to quote old testament. God told them to buy wine(that historically proves to contain some alcohol) and strong drink (liquor) grin

Drink responsibly. That all. Your life is in your hands
Christianity EtcRe: The Bible Does Not Support Drinking Alcohol, Don't Let Anyone Fool You by gobuchinny: 1:52pm On Sep 08, 2019
alBHAGDADI:
Stop quoting wrong translation. The Bible didn't say too much wine. It simply says not to drink wine.

1 Timothy 3:2-3 (KJV)
2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;

Stay away from all these other Bible versions, they will lead you to hell. Stick with the King James Version. Read link below to see why.


https://www.nairaland.com/4957299/bible-sword-butter-knife-why
I read only KJV but apparently you dont read it at all.

Vs 8 ".....not given to much wine"
Christianity EtcRe: The Bible Does Not Support Drinking Alcohol, Don't Let Anyone Fool You by gobuchinny: 1:50pm On Sep 08, 2019
alBHAGDADI:
Stop quoting wrong translation. The Bible didn't say too much wine. It simply says not to drink wine.


1 Timothy 3:2-3 (KJV)
2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;


Stay away from all these other Bible versions, they will lead you to hell. Stick with the King James Version. Read link below to see why.


https://www.nairaland.com/4957299/bible-sword-butter-knife-why
Oga read vs 8 naa
Christianity EtcRe: The Bible Does Not Support Drinking Alcohol, Don't Let Anyone Fool You by gobuchinny: 1:47pm On Sep 08, 2019
oludavis123:
Read 1timothy 3:8 likewise must the Deacon be grave, not double-tongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre; are you telling me Paul meant not given to much fruit juice here?
Dont mind all this legalistic spiritual charlatans. They neither know God nor the scriptures. But are perverted like their spiritual criminal fathers. god of men. His here playing heavens gateman that how d other theif said if you dont pay tithe you wont make heaven.

I drink alcohol in moderation and never get drunk and yes I'm spirit filled. Atleast spirit filled enough to recognize wolves in sheep clothing
Christianity EtcRe: The Bible Does Not Support Drinking Alcohol, Don't Let Anyone Fool You by gobuchinny: 1:44pm On Sep 08, 2019
alBHAGDADI:
So because Jews drink alcohol today, we are now to disobey the word of God? And who told you Jews I've God today?

So because there was no refrigerator back then, it now means they didn't see the need to invent fruit juice? Look, refrigerator was invented because people saw the need to preserve things, fruit juice being one of them. Mind you, if you had read the OP, you would have seen that fruit juice existed in the days of the early Jews as stated in Isaiah 65:8 and also Songs of Solomon 8:2. This is contrary to your Mr Historian knowledge.
You guys never cease to amaze me grin you hinge all you beliefs on the old covenants but yet you wont do d whole law deut 14 vs 26 nko grin abet no be dia una get the tithe teaching? So y now the booze aspect na other story. HYPOCRITE!!

Paul left instructions for being a deacon that he should not drink TOO MUCH wine. Oga wine back in d days had alcohol. Nothing like fruit wine. He told Timothy to use a little wine even till today a little alcohol can help your stomach upset. The point is drinking and not getting drunk. Even too much food is sin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Christians, What Are The Reasons Why You Won't Go To Church On Sunday? by gobuchinny: 1:33pm On Sep 08, 2019
MrPresident1:
Asteroid is coming, asteroid is coming, protect your skulls in Jesus.

Before 30th September 2019
This apostate somebody you came here also grin

Na them ooo..prophet of baal
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by gobuchinny: 12:42pm On Sep 08, 2019
MrPresident1:
Yes, I enjoy my messenger work.
Whose message r you propagating? Definately not God. Your Father is the devil grin for what you saying does not line up with NT scriptures.

Prophet of baal
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by gobuchinny: 12:38pm On Sep 08, 2019
LordReed:
So basically just more date setting by you? You know what will ease your job just say something will happen every 365 days of a year instead of having to revise your dates everytime they fail. With this method even when a cockroach gives birth you can claim it's a sign.
The guy is a clown. Very apostate somebody. Useless to Christ because his God is his belly. That so called asteroid will crash in his household. Fake prophet
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by gobuchinny: 12:35pm On Sep 08, 2019
MrPresident1:
I just looked up your comments again, just checked page one of your comments, you look genuine. If not, wetin I for use your eye see for this Nairaland for this gross nonsense that you wrote, only remains in the realms of imagination.

After all the talk and evidence, you dare to say this rubbish? Just go and thank your stars that I think you're genuine. If not? Angels for fill your mouth with gravel angry
Fake prophet prophesying nonsense. Your God is your belly. You must be a baby spiritually I know that your native doctor has been deceiving you. Come and try real children of God and get ur head smashed spiritually. You traded ur soul for filthy lucre. Apostate criminal
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by gobuchinny: 3:50pm On Sep 07, 2019
MrPresident1:
There is an asteroid out there, it will strike the earth before 30th September 2019. There is no known scientific equipment that can see it, it cannot be detected.

My Bible makes this very clear to me!
So how is this relevant to the death of our Saviour Jesus Christ and resurrection to give us a hope and inheritance In Heaven? You are a false prophet that tries to assume he knows more about Jesus and the ways of God by promoting useless times and seasons whereas Jesus told Peter it's not for us to know times and seasons. Did you find any of the new testament apostles promoting this rubbish. Who cares what's hitting the earth?

Preach the gospel for Therein lieth salvation, this rubbish is no gospel sir. If it was a scientific dimension then no qualms. REPENT
CelebritiesRe: Gospel Singer, Mercy Chinwo Receives Car On Birthday (Photos) by gobuchinny: 7:00am On Sep 07, 2019
uzohrome:
That's Gods heritage. Congrats to you Chi.
A car? Is God's heritage? huh huh
Christianity EtcRe: To All The Churches In Nigeria by gobuchinny: 12:36pm On Sep 06, 2019
Chosen1984:
YOU Are Blessed!
But don't forget these your words...

So you don't be a liability to your people..
Man worshipper. Follow Christ not man
CrimeRe: Tenant’s Decomposing Body Found In Lagos Apartment by gobuchinny: 8:42am On Sep 06, 2019
oluwaseyi000:




God doesn't know anything, I'm sure she has probably been begging, praying and crying to God to help and save her all this while but what did God do: he watched her drowned in her sorrow, died in her pains and to crown it all rotten away like a chicken knocked down by motorcycle

And guess what, she might currently be in hell by now because of simple human behavior like telling her neighbour she is fine when she is not because that's a lie and all liars must go to hell



Leave God out of your anger and frustrations. Man has rebelled and gone his own way. Even the so called churches are graveyards and the people dont know because they are carnal minded. Looking for miracles, neglecting eternity for carnality. Let God be and let's face the problems we bring upon ourselves
Christianity EtcRe: To All The Churches In Nigeria by gobuchinny: 8:30pm On Sep 05, 2019
Chosen1984:
Between the Year 2013-2014 There came up a Fight Against the True Gospel of Holiness and Righteousness in Nigeria.

A lady by the Name Linda came up from No Sierralone saying that she died and she was shown that a Church in Nigeria By the The Name THE LORDS CHOSEN CHARISMATIC REVIVAL MOVEMENT was not of GOD..

Within weeks , Certain so- called pastors sheepishly teamed up with her and a certain CD was Produced Speaking Evil and Wickedness against THE LORD CHOSEN . It was so Terrible that the Wicked CD was being shown Everywhere and in many Churches . Infact it was distributed free of Charge.

Unfortunately, No one can Fight against GOD ALMIGHTY and win.

The LORD'S CHOSEN being a Church Manufactured by GOD ALMIGHTY In Heaven and produced on Earth by HIS Servant Pastor Lazarus Muoka went about Preaching the Undiluted Gospel of JESUS CHRIST even in heat of Event.

No one has Fought against the Move of GOD and went away free..
Consequently , a whole lot of People, Families and Churches having made themselves available to be used by the devil have been paying the price in one way or the other.

Many watched the CD and Passed derogatory comments about the Church and all that..

Many made themselves distributors of the CD and all dt..

Many Insulted the Church, the Pastor and the Members not knowing that all these were allegations and Conspirancy against The True Gospel.

A whole lot of people have paid the price for their actions and many are still paying the price ..

Many have lost their lives, businesses crumbled, Families Crumbled all due to their actions.

I Remember personally seeing Full grown men brought on wheel chairs, wheel narrowed in sicknesses that have defied all solutions...

I have personally seen people with various Calamities all to The these same issue..

U see grown men crying and pleading for forgiveness because their lives and business crumbled..

Families were torn apart due to this

Many are suffering and do not even know that the source of their problems and challenges is the CD they watched and the Tongue which they opened to speak against The Church of GOD and HIS servant.

My Advice is that if you spoke against LORDS CHOSEN or the servant of GOD there or u were involved in one way or the other with the CD, know that you Spoke Against the Holy Ghost who is the Doer of the Work..

Stop wasting your Going all around for solutions to your problems, you need to come straight to The LORDS CHOSEN CHARISMATIC REVIVAL MOVEMENT and make your Restitution..

May GOD ALMIGHTY give us Understanding..

He That Hath Ears to Hear Let Him Hear..
You are an ignorant man whose god is his belly and you worship man not God. for indeed you and your foul mouthed deceiver of the brethren are hell bound and will continue on this journey unless you repent. for you pervert and distort scriptures for your own gain and manipulate the beloved of Christ. LAZ MOUKA is a thief and he amongst others are they that trouble the church. go and tell him i dey my house cool
Car TalkRe: Why Are Canadian Used Cars Cheaper Than American Used Cars? by gobuchinny: 8:12pm On Sep 03, 2019
Gazuzz:
kindly share your experience if you have ever owned a car imported from canada
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i have had my fair share of experience with rusted cars. Wanted to purchase a tundra for my business so i opted for a clean nigerian used manual drive with v6 engine grin. the owner was doing shakara for me as the v6 is rare then being a manual. I just vex say make i buy tokunbo. Made the calls and deceided to purchase from cotonou to save cost(i dont advise anyone to do this either grin)

Went ot cotonou with my Kazeem (mehn their car market large shocked) finally found what i was looking for and was happy as i beleived i was getting it at a good deal. my kazeem check every every and gave me the green light. he was even happy say catalyst still dey there. i saw the truck and raised some issues bout the rust but he assured me no lele. wnated to get a report from carguide but it was so late in the evening i was tired and just bought blindly based on the mechanics word. Received the vehicle and was happy.

Took vehicle to gazzuz make em service. when he saw the truck he was happy but when he went under shocked shocked, he was shocked and brought my attention to the mega rust at the frame near the passenger side. mehn shocked shocked shocked shocked the rust was so bad if i had continued driving like dat the truck will just probably break apart in time. i was disappointed in myself and esp my mechanic. wetin i won do now. but thank God gazzuz brought it back to life. even to change the suspension sef na war cool

Now im enjoying the truck and keep wondering if i hadnt taken it to gazzuz, if that same mech was servicing it, what would have happened? thank God though the car has a clean title but only say canada and rust be like 5 and 6.

Some say gazzuz is overrated but i say gazzuz izza doctor of automobile. he treats every car like a patient grin and not a machine. like the car speaks to him and he understands their pains.

Hope someone learns from this experience
Car TalkRe: Why Are Canadian Used Cars Cheaper Than American Used Cars? by gobuchinny: 8:40pm On Sep 02, 2019
Gazuzz:
kindly share your experience if you have ever owned a car imported from canada
Christianity EtcThe Truth About Tithing by gobuchinny(op): 5:42pm On Sep 02, 2019
Many believers have misinterpreted scripture and have allowed men of gold mis-represent scriptures. Firstly, believers must understand what the new testament or covenant is about. We must understand that there is an old so as there is a new. Under the old so many things were applicable and allowed. Can you imagine the God you now serve will be happy with you for killing your enemy infact one instance He was angry with Saul for not killing Israel's enemy. In that era the man that was said to be beloved of God was a killer, i mean David grin.

You see a new set of rules were applicable. there were the ordinances, the temple and all the laws that govern the people Israel. Now we wont even begin to speak about the era before the law or before the nation Israel was formed. If you loved God then you must obey the law. you must keep the sabbath, you observe all the feasts as dedicated to the Lord. the Levis were dedicated to the altar of the Lord in service. All the priests must come from the sons of Levi particularly the sons of Aaron the Kohanim (aaronic priesthood). Recall that these priest were dedicated to the service of the temple (keep in mind this temple was built in accordance and specification by God) the Kohanim in particular were the priest serving in the temple. the administered the daily sacrifical offerings, there were the priests and high priests as elected per time. the levites who were not Kohanim played music in the temple or served as guards in the temple.

The tithe was to help them survive as these levites were dedicated to the service of the temple. All these were under the old testament. Now Hebrews 8 vs 5v tells us that Moses built the temple based on the pattern he had seen, meaning he built as shown by God. its this temple God inhabited that had all those outer and inner court and holiest of holiest which only the high priest entered once a year shocked

In this new dispensation, there is no temple grin. there are no priests grin and there is no more offerings for sins sacrifices done by one person on behalf of the people as Jesus has accomplished that task once and for all. So we all are a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people a chosen generation. Rev 1 VS 6. We are all to approach the throne of grace and obtain grace to help in time of need. we are to come boldly as the veil has been torn grin.

Recall that in the past God only had his covenant children, the Israelite. there were the chosen but in this era the gentiles were grafted in. the issue arose in the days of Paul that the gentiles should be circumcised. Remember that God gave Abraham the covenant of circumcision Gen 17 vs 10. and that any one that didn't comply was to be cut off grin this was the same issue that Apostle Paul had with some Jewish Christians like himself who wanted to bring the observance of the law of circumcision which was also part of the mosaic laws that the children of Israel had to obey. These was a law that was obeyed from the abrahamic dynasty, there was no law of tithe put of circumcision which followed from Abraham till reiterated again by God meaning it was of importance. Is the same law that Paul was rebuking and warning the Galatians not to fall into. Please understand that the book of Galatians was a rebuke because these Christians had fallen for the tricks of those jewish beleivers telling the people to obey the laws, observe the feasts, circumcise and so forth. there was even no issue raised on tithing. i can imagine if that was the case Paul would have rent his cloths and be naked in anger. grin

The old law is done away with with the temple, no physical temple Hebrew 9 vs 1 "Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a wordly sanctuary grin. But we all know that our body is the temple of the Holy Spirit. No levis, even in Act 4 vs 37, a levite shocked named Joses Barnabas sold his land and laid the money at the apostles feet for onward distribution to the saints.

HEBREWS 7 These is one of the most mis interpreted scripture on tithing. Understand that the high priests and priests that do service in the courts of the Lord in the old testaments were from the sons of Aaron. you coudnt serve in the alter if you were no a levi and of particular of a direct descendant from Aaron. Now this was for the earthly tabernacle. recall that these tabernacle on earth was built in accordance with the heavenly tabernacle. Heb 8 vs 1-2 but this old law was not perfect as fault was found in it Heb 8 vs 7, hence the death of Christ. but Christ had to come in human form and the laws of God could not be broken so if He was to be a high priest he must come from a lineage as all priest came from Aaron. This is where Melchisedec come in because Christ is from the order of Melchisedec as Priest were from the order of Aaron for Kohanim and Levi. Now Abraham who was the father of Israel and being a prophet of God recognized this order and saw afar off. He paid tithe in homage to that order and the bible says that even Levi paid tithe from the loins of Abraham signifying the superiority of the order of Christ.
vs 5 "And verily they are the sons of Levi who receive the office the priesthood have a commandment to take tithe of the people, according to the law...." See the sons of Levi HAVE A COMMANDMENT TO TAKE TITHE shocked.

If therefore perfection were by the levitcal preisthood what further need was there that ANOTHER PRIEST should rise AFTER THE ORDER OF MELCHISEDEC, for the PRIESTHOOD BEING CHANGED, THERE IS MADE OF NECESSITY A CHANGE ALSO OF THE LAW"[b][/b] shocked shocked shocked
See friends, that the Law has been abolished? do yOu really think that if the apostles paid tithes that the scriptures wont report it? please think critically. these events we read are also historical events and their actions ACTS were openly reported. Please do not be deceived and study your scriptures to understand the new covenant. study especially the new testaments to fully understand what Jesus Christ came to do for us and stop allowing these religious charlatans corner the commonwealth of believers for only themselves and families and close associates grin

STAY WOKE OOOO
Christianity EtcRe: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by gobuchinny: 6:59am On Sep 02, 2019
CodeTemplar:
Mathew 23:23 shatters all your rants.
You are void of understanding. Jesus was under the law and hence obeyed the law. Hebrews states that the testament is not in force until the death of the testator. grin

Meaning the new testament was ushered in after the death of Jesus. Nobody prayed in His name until he died and rose so the law was in force and tithing was normal.

Jesus also told the man he healed to go perform what was commanded by Moses..do you or your ignorant church members perform what was commanded by Moses everytime you climb ur dirty and rotten pulpits to share testimony of healing?

Jesus also told the disciples not to go to any other tribe to preach except the lost sheep of israel..r u d lost sheep of Israel? You see my friend, you must gain understanding of scriptures and stop picking the letters of the word but the spirit. You cannot pick and drop what you like in the bible. If you pick one then pick all. Dont just read the bible out of context but gain understanding of scripture in its entirety.

Dont forget satan tempted Christ by picking scripture out of context grin
Christianity EtcRe: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by gobuchinny: 11:08pm On Sep 01, 2019
newsynews:
You say the law did not exist in the days of Abraham, yet you say Abraham tithed and circumcized, which are things under the law. You shot yourself in the foot.

The law was not written to the Israelites but to God's people. Only those who aren't God's people kick against the law of God.

The law on tithing wasn't just for the Levites but for God's house. That's why God said the tithe should be brought to his house so that there will be meat in his house. But wicked people like you don't want meat to exist in God's house today.

Since the law is over for you, go and sex your mother tonight.

I don't keep the Sabbath neither do I offer animal sacrifices. This is because the Apostles clearly abolished those ones in the new testament. Now, show me where they abolished tithe. May you be damned if you can't find such. Why will you be damned? Because you have spoke. against tithing when they did not, when the Bible did not and when God did not.

Who told you the apostles lacked anything?
If only we humans read. Google the history oftithe and you will see the early church never tithed grin. There is no more a physical temple so biko which store house grin. Do you not you are the temple now? No building no store house. Your lack for the new covenant is legendary grin
Blind leading the blind. Y did God judge sodom? Was there a written law that they broke? You dont need a law to know sleeping with you mother is sin grin. WAKE UP and study. Te apostles didnt have to say anything on tithe because IT WAS NEVER PRACTICED and they knew they were no levis ;even the Levi's who believed sold their goods and brought to the commonwealth of believers as acts records so imagine the one that collects tithes now giving grin lazy perverted scammer whose God is their belly thinking that godliness is gain. You will rot in hell if you dont unlearn your nonsense tradition of men
Christianity EtcRe: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by gobuchinny: 10:45pm On Sep 01, 2019
newsynews:
You say the law did not exist in the days of Abraham, yet you say Abraham tithed and circumcized, which are things under the law. You shot yourself in the foot.

The law was not written to the Israelites but to God's people. Only those who aren't God's people kick against the law of God.

The law on tithing wasn't just for the Levites but for God's house. That's why God said the tithe should be brought to his house so that there will be meat in his house. But wicked people like you don't want meat to exist in God's house today.

Since the law is over for you, go and sex your mother tonight.

I don't keep the Sabbath neither do I offer animal sacrifices. This is because the Apostles clearly abolished those ones in the new testament. Now, show me where they abolished tithe. May you be damned if you can't find such. Why will you be damned? Because you have spoke. against tithing when they did not, when the Bible did not and when God did not.

Who told you the apostles lacked anything?
Paul lacked alot. If you have read the bible you will know. Severally he said he hungered and thirsts. He said he has learnt to abase and abound grin. Abraham didnt tithe as a tradition or custome but did it one off. The law of circumcision was a covenant which was instructed by God to Abraham. Y didnt Abraham obey the sabbath? Y aren't u obeying the sabbath? Because they is no monetary gain. You perverted carnal human. You and u criminal spiritual fathers obey it because you want God to bless u materially thinking God is ur Russian roulette grin..

If you obey the law of tithe then you are obligated to obey all the law. Let me ask you, are we not all priest and kings so how can brethren collect tithe from his brethren. Remember that in the old testament they were designated priest who were descendant of Aaron who did this..do we have Levi's today? Ain't we all able to approach the throne of God? Do men still offer sacrifices on our behalf like in the old testament? Perverted lazy Christian Christian that wont study and understand the new testament but always looking at scripture to line his pocket.
You are they that trouble the brethren and you are cursed thinking that you must obey the law to please God. Your portion is hell if you dont repent.
Christianity EtcRe: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by gobuchinny: 7:39pm On Sep 01, 2019
newsynews:
You talk as if the law of Moses was just Moses idea. You forgot that it was Good who gave it to him. That law existed long before Moses was born. Moses only documented it. God had always used that law as standard right from Cain and Abel.

The Apostles need not repeat the law on tithing because it is already well detailed in the new testament. They didn't come to erase the law of God. Since God did not tell them that the law should be discarded, they saw no need to discard it but to continue with it. Since the new testament doesn't record them continuing or discarding it, it is best we continue with it until God says otherwise. since God hasn't said anything different than what he said in the Old Testament about tithing, then it means that what he said back then still holds. Anyone trying to abolish tithing is only speaking when God has not spoken.
You lack understanding of scriptures. Which law existed before Moses? Did Abraham observe the sabbath? Did he pay tithe as a normal practice? He paid tithe once and not even from his total wealth but from the bounty he got. The law was written to the Israelites not to the gentiles. That y Paul wrote to the galatians. Someone came and said the gentiles should be circumcised. Do you know there is a covenant of circumcision God made with Abragam which is stronger than tithe? Yet Paul said none sud feel obliged to be circumcised. The law of tithe is for the welfare of the levites and other provisions. There r no levites, there is no temple but we are the temple. This tithe things is because man built their own churches which God does not inhabit hence they need to maintain it. We r not under the law. There is a moral law that everyone is bound by. You dont need anyone to tell you that stealing is wrong, or murdering is wrong. The law was a shadow of the things to come(Jesus). Now that He has come y r u under the law? If you tithe then you must keep the sabbath, you must sacrifice with the blood of animals because you cannot mix the old and new testament. The early church didnt tithe. It was Introduced by the Catholics to tax the people. Google is your friend. If they tithe then the apostles wont have lacked. Paul would have been fat like these thieves on the pulpit. Study your scripture and stop observing the commandment of men
Christianity EtcRe: Rev Father Kelvin Ugwu: Understanding The Significance Of First Fruit And Tithes by gobuchinny: 5:08pm On Sep 01, 2019
newsynews:
Since you are no longer under the law, why not break the below law by sleeping with your sister or mother. Mugu.


Leviticus 18:6-7 (KJV)
6 None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their unclothedness: I am the
LORD.
7 The unclothedness of thy father, or the unclothedness of thy mother, shalt thou not uncover: she is thy mother; thou shalt not uncover her unclothedness.
This is a very weak and lazy submission. Before the law of Moses, man knew what was morally right or wrong. Wasnt Noah's unclothedness uncovered and was it not sin? Was there a law for that? How did Cain know that he sinned after he killed Abel? What did God use to judge sodom and gommorah? Which law? Oga we are not under the law. There is a better covenant it's called the new covenant. The old is done away with. The law of Christ which is re enforced by the epistles is what we r under. You criminals think you are wiser than the apostles or holy spirit that they forgot to mention the importance of ur dirty tithe and first fruits? Continue fooling yourselves
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Adeboye: Osinbajo's Helicopter Crash Was Revealed To Me By God by gobuchinny: 2:56pm On Aug 11, 2019
femtex007:
Thats what happen when u have a pillar supporting you. If u like take it or leave it. The church is marching on.
What rubbish pillar huh huh

Why are we so stupid? The countless redeemers that die every day and even their pastors why didnt God reveal? Does Adeboye know when he will die. Rubbish..you better wake up and study your bible and stop pillarising criminals and men of gold.

Dont worry Adeboye will be your pillar on the day you face God on one but I wonder who will be adeboye pillar on the day he faces God...Oh I know, it will be Kenneth hagin.

Lazy Christians
Christianity EtcRe: Bishop Oyedepo Curses Jeremiah Omolara's Killers (Winners’ Chapel Pastor Kaduna) by gobuchinny: 2:41pm On Aug 09, 2019
Jetrue3oo:
The curse no reach anywhere

How come oyedepo didn't see his death coming and non of the entire winners members see it coming too
Bunch of blind followers with spiritually blind leader.

If na money dey come him go see am
Dnt mind the old thief. He has been cursing yet nothing. Scammer and a fake prophet.
CrimeRe: Student Who Committed Suicide Didn’t Have Poor Results – OAU by gobuchinny: 6:18am On Aug 06, 2019
Chrisus:
2.68 ain't poor? Is their GPA scale 4.0?
The thing weak me ooo..but what do I know sef
PoliticsRe: Snake Chases Ondo Lawmakers Out Of Assembly, Falls From Roof During Plenary by gobuchinny: 6:45am On Jul 26, 2019
Bamz:
You're not even ashamed to type this.

Do you even realise you're a super predator? Put your self in the shoes body of a slimy dust eating reptile and imagine how gigantic humans look.
Bros I'm not scared of snakes and will kill one at sight. However, I'm telling you the reality. If you were not raised in the village or farm or have experience with the beautiful reptile your first instinct is to flee when one is sighted.

8 out of every 10 Nigerian will flee. If you dont agree then argue with ur keyboard grin. I'm only telling you that some will still flee even when a dead snake is seen talkless of a live one.
PoliticsRe: Snake Chases Ondo Lawmakers Out Of Assembly, Falls From Roof During Plenary by gobuchinny: 6:05pm On Jul 25, 2019
Bamz:
Hahaha "A live snake" Can a dead snake chase people?

Who writes these things?
Bros na lie ooo..some people will see even the shed skin of a snake and take off talk less of a dead snake. So yes a dead snake can make some people run without thinking

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