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Cosmas Nwokafor: True leaders don't struggle to gain leadership positions. They are not the ones who are without the real charisma but incidentally found themselves there. They are not the ones with the charisma, but who crave it consciously. They are not the ones who have all the wherewithal to afford it. They are not the ones who have the charisma, but hates it. They are not the ones who has the calling but do not know it. They are the ones whose natural process reconciles with their dreams and without any real conscious effort, found themselves there.

Candour: These discussions are not for the benefit of the discussants. anybody can twist or lie to win an argument.

sidespin: MADE IN HEAVEN

I created you because I wanted a future. Your security and your future is in your seed. I had servants but I didn’t have sons. I had servants that served Me but I didn’t have a family.

I created you. I love you and I like you. Many have been speaking to you to bring you down. But today, I lift out of you the evil words spoken against you.

When I created the world, I didn’t create it for sinners. It is legally right for Me to take sinners money and give it to My children. All My money is yours. You are My seed. You are My future. You are My child.

I am a Master of making champions out of nobody.
I am a Master of making champions out of failures.

You just surrender your life to Me and I will confirm My blessing on you. Get into My word. Get your mind renewed. Get ready for an adventure in faith.

Submit to authority but be controlled by Me. Don’t let any body control you.

If you don’t make the world better, it will make you worse.

I give you all things to richly enjoy. I am watching you. I want the world. Go get it for Me. I want the world. I want to help people. I will always do what I said.

Don’t ever say again, ‘I just can’t help everybody’ if you quit saying that, you could. When you say such word you limit yourself. When you limit yourself, you limit Me because you are My hand.

It is more important to hear My voice outside the church than it is to hear it inside the church because the wealth of the sinners is not inside the church but outside. You must really be listening to Me.

As you grow older in Me, My voice grows smaller. It’s a still small voice. When you first got born again, I had to holler as you were like a little baby.

You can have good health all the way to the end. It’s yours if you want. It is up to you. Take care of your self. When I tell you to sleep, sleep!

Some of you have prayed for an encounter with God, but you are not ready for that encounter. Some of you want to go into the ministry and yet you are not willing to go to your neighbour next door and talk to your neighbour about Me after I have told you many times. I will give you a ministry, but you have to at least obey when I told you something. So I ask you once again, ‘go to your neighbour and tell him or her about Me. It’s not your job if they receive it or not. It’s your job to speak it. And if you will obey Me in the small things of life I will give you big things to do and I will do it in a quick and very fast way. I wait your answer on that.

How can I give you something when what you have you keep when I told you to be a sower and not a keeper? If you want those vital things in life, you’ve gat to get away from those depression mentality and walk like I walk.

The rest of this year has been called in heaven the year of visitation. Many have come, many have spoken and said, ‘O God will you visit me?’’

I will go where I am welcomed
I will go where I am believed
I will go where people stand up for Me.

There are many things concerning this cosmos that you know nothing of, but this planet is very dear to Me and I will visit it the rest of this year like I’ve never visited it before. I will come to those who will welcome Me and those who will stand up for Me.

Victory

Victory is not in places and things.
Victory is not in people and man's plan.
Victory is in Him, the Eternal One.
The One who planned the great plan of redemption and sent the Champion out of heaven long ago, from the bosom of the Father down here below.
And He met the enemy in awful combat:
And arose victorious over death, hell, and the grave,
And ascended on High and led captivity captive.
The victory is in Him.
And if in Him you live and He lives in you, then the victory is on the inside.
Stir up the victory.
Shout the words in the face of the enemy:
"Victory!" "Victory!" "Victory!"—every day.
"Victory!" every night.
"Victory!" every moment.
For the Victorious One in me doth live.
Greater is He than all the forces of hell.
Greater is He than temptation and all that against me may come.
So I'll rest and rejoice every day.
For, you see, I am the victorious one.

Doubt and Fear

Doubt and fear are the two tormenting twins of the enemy down here, sent to harass and rob you of God's blessings.
But faith and love come from above.
Faith and love—for faith worketh by love.
And faith working by love will give you victory in every circumstance—will give you deliverance out of every problem.
Faith and love sent from heaven above.
Faith and love born of your spirit that is regenerated and born again:
The love of God shed abroad in your spirit. Faith rising up out of the Word upon which you meditate and think.
So cast aside doubt and fear for they have no place in you as you walk down here. For He has not given us the spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.
So cast away doubt and fear as you'd pull off your coat or cloak and throw it to one side.
And rise up and walk in love, and act in faith.
And all the heavenly blessings from above shall be at your disposal.
And in His great plan, you'll live and enjoy His blessings, as you walk in this clime.
And so you shall rejoice and be glad, for, you see, this is the day and this is the hour of your time.

Goshen360: What do you mean by the above? You got what I typed from page #2 of this thread and you saying it took me long?



Why are you bothered about that? Allow the Holy Spirit to show you - it's one of the churches listed there.



Oh, is this a joke? First it was give us list of churches that don't tithe. Now, it's been produced. Oh, I doubt all these churches? Are you now Thomas? Ah, it is not possible for a church to preach against tithe? Don't you have videos up there on page #1? Are they not pastors there preaching against tithe? JOKER!!! Why don't you google those list and confirm their doctrine before making such statement as the ^ above.



So you think every church leadership will open branches where tithe will be remitted to the HQ? Is that your definition of church growth or expansion? The end time church is in a mess and needs clean-up. You people open branches which is even unscriptural and tell local branches to remit tithe to HQ. That's un-apostolic.

Oh, in Nigeria? JOKER!!!



What!!! Because they don't tithe, they are alien to Christianity? Are you serious? Where did early Christians PAID tithe if these churches are alien to Christianity? Do you think everyone will be follow-follow like most Nigerian churches? So not tithe is = to alien to Christianity in your own definition? So, tithing is the bedrock of Christianity? Do you even understand the meaning of what you saying? You're insulting the blood of the mediator of the new covenant which is Christ.

Goshen360: Here are the list of churches that do not teach nor collect tithe around the world:

ALABAMA. Hanceville, The Hope Center-805 Main St SW (Hwy 31 S) 256.352.4729

ALABAMA; Mobile, St Stephens AME, Dr Harrison Wilson

ALABAMA: VINELAND PARK REFORMED BAPTIST, HUEYTOWN

ARIZ, MESA; NEW COVENANT BIBLE FELLOWSHIP

ARIZ, PHOENIX: ABIDING IN CHRIST BAPTIST FELLOWSHIP

ARIZ, Tiempe, NEW COV BIBLE FELLOWSHIP

CALIF, PALO ALTO, PENINSULA BIBLE CHURCH

CALIF, SUN CITY, GRACE COMMUNITY CHURCH

COLO, ARVADA, GRACE CHURCH

COLO, LITTLETON, FOOTHILLS BIBLE CHURCH

FLA, HERNANDO, RIVERSIDE CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP

GEORGIA, ACWORTH, IRON HILL BAPTIST

GEORGIA, SHARPSBURG; FAITH BIBLE CHURCH

GEORGIA; Gainesville, Feed My Sheep Church

GEORGIA, TUCKER, Faith Christian Church

GEORGIA, WOODSTOCK, Prayer and Praise

INDIANA, AVON; GRACE FELLOWSHIP CHURCH

IND, INDIANAPOLIS; SOLID WORD BIBLE CHURCH

KANSAS, LYONS, FIRST BAPTIST 11-2010

MICH, Detroit; Kingdom Living Ministries 13509 Gratiot

MINN, ST PAUL; WOODLAND HILLS CHURCH

MINN-ST PAUL, TWIN CITIES FELLOWSHIP

MISSOURI, EMMA; Lutheran, Rev Snyder

MISSOURI, St Louis, Victory Way Missionary Baptist

N. CAROLINA; APEX, TRIANGLE COMMUNITY CHURCH

N. CAROLINA; CROSSROADS BIBLE FELLOWSHIP

N. CAROLINA, WILMINGTON, SURFSIDE FELLOWSHIP

OHIO, CHESAPEAKE; UNION MISSIONARY BAPTIST

OHIO, CINCINNATI; NEW TESTAMENT CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP; 631 DEVITO AVE

OHIO, E CLEVELAND, NEW BIRTH CHURCH

OHIO, DAYTON; GRACE CHRISTIAN CENTER

OKLAHOMA, ENID: EMMANUEL BAPTIST SBC

OKLAHOMA, TULSA: Prayer Centre, Dave Roberson

TEXAS, ARLINGTON, Paradise Primitive Baptist Church

Texas, Austin, Austin Bible Church

TEXAS. HOUSTON, Mills Road Baptist, Dave Goodgame

TEXAS, NOCOMA, First Baptist, Dave Woodbury

VIRGINIA, Ridgeway, Paradise Temple Jones

VIRGINIA: Sandston; Tabernacle of Truth, H Pollard Jr

England, London, All Souls, Langham Place

Canada, Saskatoon, Abundant Grace Fellowship, Ron Mills

South Africa, Cape Town; Separate World Assy; Anchor of Faith International

IMMANUEL FOUNDATION MINISTRIES
PO BOX 31030 CLOCK TOWER
KAMPALA UGANDA EAST AFRICA
MAKINDYE HILL VIEW

Enigma: What the OP asked for is that which is bolded above. The answers provided to that have already well exceeded 10.

OK the OP mentions "anti-tithe"; BUT we can see clearly what the OP means by that i.e. churches that do not preach tithing. Again, as I said, the answers provided have already exceeded ten.

As another poster suggested, the use of language on the thread suggests that this is the dichotomy:

"Pro-tithe" churches = churches who preach obligatory/mandatory tithing.

"Anti-tithe" = churches that do not preach obligatory/mandatory tithing.

A couple of observations:

The use of "anti-tithe" for individuals is obviously an attempt to paint the challengers of the tithing doctrine negatively, effectively an ad hominem. To some extent, this is understandable in the sense that the tithing opponents can be said to be anti i.e. against tithe (though even that is not quite accurate!).

The use of "anti-tithe" for "churches" is a deliberate or duplicitous chicanery because churches are not the ones as such contending the tithing doctrine. Rather what churches do is adopt a doctrinal stance and preach/practice that stance. What is more, there is no church that says if a giver chooses to give or make an offering of 10% they will not accept it!

See how absurd it can get: Oyedepo does his slapping deliverance, is he pro-slapping? Are churches who don't do slapping "anti-slapping"?

What about "pro anointing oil" versus "anti-anointing oil"? What about "pro-holiness" versus "anti-holiness" (make Deeper they fight Chris Embassy on that one).

The arguments of the tithe-mongers on the biblical teaching are weak as is already well known. Their quest for "anti-tithe" churches is a puerile nonsense that is only worthy of such as tithe-mongers to be honest.

marvelling: @Goshen360 which church you dey go sef? This your write up is against mainstream pentecostal teachings of our day.

marvelling: @Goshen360 which church you dey go sef? This your write up is against mainstream pentecostal teachings of our day.

chukwudi44: Please the catholic church does not preach compulsory tithing(payment of 10%) by itz members.Catholics are encouraged to contribute to the church in any percentage be it 1-100%.

The cathechism of the catholic church does not stipulate mandatory payment of 10% of our income.

Goshen360: List of ten churches or more ...that don't tithe, coming soon !!!

Pastor Kun: For starters the Roman catholic church which accounts for over half of the world's christian population does not teach tithing to their members.

Pastor Kun: For starters the Roman catholic church which accounts for over half of the world's christian population does not teach tithing to their members.

Pastor Kun: @God2man
Back to your question of asking for ten churches that have not descended so low as to scam their members of 10% of their regular income using biblical tithes as a cover. I just want to remind you that just as Elisha thought that all of Israel had abandoned God for baal just as tithing churches teach their members to attempt to bribe God with tithe for blessings, God revealed to him that there were still 7,000 men that had not bowed to baal same way some churches today have refused to join the bandwagon and worship mamom by extorting tithes from their members.

Still waiting for you to give me ten good reasons why I should indulge your ignorance.

Pastor Kun: @God2man
Back to your question of asking for ten churches that have not descended so low as to scam their members of 10% of their regular income using biblical tithes as a cover. I just want to remind you that just as Elisha thought that all of Israel had abandoned God for baal just as tithing churches teach their members to attempt to bribe God with tithe for blessings, God revealed to him that there were still 7,000 men that had not bowed to baal same way some churches today have refused to join the bandwagon and worship mamom by extorting tithes from their members.

Still waiting for you to give me ten good reasons why I should indulge your ignorance.

God2man: To all Anti-tithers on nairaland,

Since you cannot mention 10 Anti-tithe churches all over the world,
can we conclude that Anti-tithe doctrine is alien to christianity, especially in Nigeria?

If this is not true, then Jehovah witness and church of christ stand out as the only Anti-tithe churches, while Catholics(not sure), Anglicans(not sure), and Baptist(not sure) in the U.K are somehow divided on the doctrine of Anti- tithing.

My conclusion is that, Anti-tithe doctrine is NOT familiar with all the doctrine believed by all Churches all over the world, it is a demonic doctrine from the pit of hell to deceive christian and eventually send them to hell.

However, i am waiting for 10 churches from all over the world that adhered strictly to Anti-tithe doctrine.

God bless you.
God2man.

Pastor Kun: @God2man
I can actually list over a hundred churches globally that don't subscribe to your fraudulent tithe doctrine but first of all you must give me ten good reasons why I should indulge your ignorance.

Candour: And what happens if the 'big shot' pastor is only using a bigger jazz to belittle the small jazz of the OP's pastor? in that case we'll have to call for angel Gabriel to come organize a bigger deliverance right?

Why not let us stop the veneration of mere mortals like you and me and develop your own relationship with God to the point where when you speak to him, he listens and answers?

Is the blood of Christ that saved you any less potent than the one that saved the big shot pastor?

When you leave your spiritual destiny or any destiny for that matter in the hands of a man, you're only setting yourself up for a big fall. God will always be God and a man will always remain only a man.

Pastors should guide, not have dominion over your faith. You're standing by faith, not by pastor's anointing or power.

If the apostle Paul could say the below, i think we need to listen to him

2Cor 1:24
'Not for that we have dominion over your faith, but are helpers of your joy: for by faith ye stand'

Pastor Olu T: Simple and short, the reason for many confused folks out there is 'cos they have no relationship with God but their pastors.