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You can only pick one. Who are you taking?

raumdeuter:
The same you who saw Khedira protecting Boateng in the world cup final
Who saw Balotelli and Italy eliminating Germany in Euro 2016

Is now telling another tale. This is trent stopping another sure 1 vs 1 with VVD upfront

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Maybe we need to ask you,

Do you really watch football or just fabricate stories

You also saw Umtiti winning the Champions league at barca and Vidic winning a league title when Ferdinand left United. Stop acting like you have never goofed before.

Tochex101:
Only discovered because he is dead.
Imagine the kind of sum 8 termers like Obasanjo are seating on....

Obasanjo, Babangida , Buhari, Abdulsalam and infact all the senior ranking government officials in the military era. Those people are the real O.G and will be seating on bastard money. Abacha death didn't give him time to cover his tracks.

Swissh:
O my God. Everything is approximately $3.1billion dollars which is equivalent to 1.2 trillion naira as at today. And he only spent 4yrs not even 8. I salute the nigga one more time.

Mind you the highest denomination then was N50.

Swissh:
Now I understand why Abacha wife said no matter how broke she was,she can never be as poor as Dangote. Abacha is a bonafide criminal kingpin. Another of his loot has been discovered. I salute the man.

Recovered Loot from ex Nigerian Head of State, Sani Abacha

1998: $750m
2000: $64m
2002: $1.2bn
2003: $160m
2003: $88m
2005: $461m
2006: $44m
2014: $227m
2017: $322m
2019: £211m
2020: $311m
Another $319 million is coming as well.

pkasso:
Lmao. Nobody sees the Milan teams as juggernauts anymore. They are only living on past glories. When was the last time either side won any major trophy, never mind the league?

See you trying to sell Real Madrid short . There was only a little gap between Real and Barca. Both sides were closely matched. From the playing personnel to the coaches to the spending power. Real Madrid also had the greatest goalscorer in the history of the game during that period. There's simply no excuse for Real not winning more titles.

Well the greatest player of all time tipped the scale to Barca favour. With Messi at barca there was simply no how Madrid was going to win more league titles and also they never had the better players than us in those time frame. They have been seaons they have missed out by 3 to 4 points as well. They definitely have an excuse and that is Lionel Messi.

pkasso:
I don't agree with those who say Bayern not wnning the CL is a failure. There are so many good teams also looking to do the same. In the end, only one can win. Not winning the league is the real definition of failure.

Juventus have not had any serious competition from either of the Milan clubs until recently. In fact, Napoli has proven to be a stronger competitor. Historical record has no value here when they are not even competing on the field of play.

A club like Real Madrid should be winning more than 3 league titles in 10 years. Not to mention when their only competition is Barca.

I was only using the French and Scottish leagues as filler examples and not as a standard by which Bayern should be judged.

People still look at inter and AC Milan today as juggernauts. Italy already has that aura of many top teams which just works to Juventus advantage in my opinion but you are right. They have had it easy as well.

Real Madrid were competing against arguably the greatest player in history and one of the greatest teams as well for most of that ten years. No other club would have fared better. They get a pass for their wooful league record.

Swissh:
Who told you Sane is 100% going to sign for Bayern if he runs down his contract. There are other clubs who can offer him higher wages and signing bonuses when he becomes free. You think if Barca/psg swoop in with a sweet offer City won't hesitate to sell.

Absolutely and if Bayern get in a bidding war regarding his remuneration with Psg, Barca or Real , Then Bayern Munich have no chance whatsoever . The rest can easily go up to £400k a week unlike the German

raumdeuter:
And how many La Liga titles have they won in the past 10yrs, In their own league have they been better than Dortmund in the past decade?

As long as the opposition is superior to anything Bayern has ever faced that's all. Take Bayern to la liga they won't even finish 3rd talkless of mounting a title challenge.

pkasso:
Real champions never get tired of winning. The Club still celebrates winning the league the same way as the ones won before. But obviously now the CL is the one we really want. Nevertheless, the league and cup double is the barest minimum for success at Bayern.

The hypocrisy by fans of other club regarding the Bundesliga is what i don't like. Juventus has won 8 straight Serie A titles, and no one blinks an eye. Barcelona has won 7 of the last 10 titles in a league where there is also Real Madrid but it's all good. Same dominance in France and Scotland. But it is Bayern that went 2 seasons without winning the league and bounced back to win 7 in a row that is the problem.

You have dominated your league to the extent that not winning the champions league is considered a failure.
It's simple. Juventus are up against teams that historical they are very strong( Both Milan clubs) which gives them a bit of leeway in public perception, We have Madrid who needs no explanation. Psg Dominance is ridiculed in France and even called farmers league by some and nobody actually rates the Scottish league.

raumdeuter:
What opposition is Madrid offering in La Liga that is bigger than 2 league titles in 10yrs? This worst ever Barca this season is currently leading the table before covid

The former European champions who won it 3 times in a row by the way and with a player like Ronaldo are a better opposition than anything Bayern has ever faced in their league history.

raumdeuter:
How many times has Madrid won the league since 2010? Probably the number of times Dortmund has won.

You have no opposition as strong as Madrid. The league is Bayern + 17others.

raumdeuter:
Then we will keep our money and wait for him. A free Sane is even better than a 50M Sane

ok

raumdeuter:
Does Juventus or Barcelona get bored of winning their league? Did Man utd under Ferguson get bored?

We have Madrid who keeps us on our toes. United play In England. Bayern have no competition whatsoever.

pkasso:
This is wrong. Everyone is always painting us as the bad guys when in reality we have done more than most in helping German football.

In 2003 when Dortmund were battling insolvency, guess who helped them from going bankrupt by donating 2 million euros? Bayern.

Bayern have also helped other Bundesliga clubs indirectly by paying generously for transfers. Real Madrid paid a combined sum of 32 million euros for Ozil and Khedira, despite the 2 players coming off the back of an impressive World Cup. Compare that to Bayern paying Dortmund 37 million euros for Goetze, a Bundesliga record transfer at that time and later 35 million for Hummels. They would have reasonably broke the bank for Lewy but Dortmund preferred to let him run down his contract.

So you see, Bayern is not the big bad wolf you are making us out to be.

ok nice right up. But you can't deny Bayern have Monopoly over the entire league in terms of transfer and dominance. Their domination will continue for the next 6+ seaons. Since bundeliga don't allow sugar daddies take over their clubs it's only mismanagement from Bayern that will end their stronghold on the league. Dont you get bored knowing you have already won the league before the season starts?

raumdeuter:
The same way Sane has been in the hospital and B team for the past 9months. Its not that hard. PSG let Rabiot rot but now Rabiot is with Juve, got a fat sign on fee that should have gone to PSG, got salary for a year from PSG and he still moved

Let City also do that and lets see how they balance their books with FFP and UEFA ban looming

If the selling club is telling you they don't care about the money if it doesn't reach their valuation and the player can stay then that should tell you something. They consider it an insult to bid below what to them is reasonable which is exactly what Bayern are doing. Ffp is a three year circle. They have no fresh problem with ffp and don't need to balance their books yet.

raumdeuter:
By this time next year lets see what City has to say about Sanes future when he would have signed a pre contract and fat sign on fee

City already gave their answer. You know city can let Sane rot with their b team till next year. Psg did the same with Rabiot.

Expert17:
If you guys are complaining about Bayern munich.

Juventus are king of free transferr, .... With all the Stars in the club right now, most are either free transfers or exchange.

Juventus are really old ladies. The kind of deals they have gotten for old and past players who became very good at that club is still a mystery. Juventus has spent a quiet a lot recently. Ronaldo and De ligt. They are have actually spent big on players through their history unlike Bayern.

Swissh:
And their was animosity between Bayern and city after the Bayern president talked shit about city and the owners. City will either tell Bayern to either pay up or Sit down.

City don’t lose players like other clubs. Why do you think Real Madrid’s and us have not snapped them Aguero, Silva in his prime, De Bruyne, Sterling etc. They don't care about the money. Before we went for Suarez, Aguero was our first choice and once City said he was not for sale that was the end according to Zubizarreta. City won't bulge at all unless Bayern bid something sensible.

Expert17:
That's the same way Lewandowski joined for free.
Bayern will wait for you.

This time Bayern are not the ones in charge. Man City are the ones telling them to F.uck off.

raumdeuter:
Unless you are a club doped by external funding no one will spend more than they have to.

ok

Expert17:
Not playing for a complete season and also returning from a career-ending injury normally should reduce the initial transfer fee by 50%.....

If they don't sell him now, he might join a direct rival in EPL ( Liverpool, Chelsea or Man utd) for free with the promise of higher salary and 1st team football.

Acl is not a career ending injury and like I said if City are prepared to allow Leroy Sane run out his contract and leave for free rather than join Bayern for the scrap they are offering it should you tell everything.

raumdeuter:
So you think Man city wont sell Sane for less than 110M. You got jokes

Their current valuation of Leroy is 70million which is pretty reasonable.

raumdeuter:
Its smart business, we got Robben for 25M from Madrid when players of his stature were going for 35 to 40M
We got Lucatoni the top scorer in Serie A for 11 M
We got Thiago from Barcelona for 25M when he could have been worth 100M

Its smart business, you dont pay more for anyone if you can get him for less

Yes I agree it's smart business but it doesn't mean Bayern are not stingy. They are also lucky to be playing in a league were they are the big shots. That model won't work elsewhere.

Expert17:
They don't spend anyhow is different from stingy......

Man city will decide to take 40-50m for Sane or watch him leave for free..
Aaron Ramsey left arsenal for free, a player that shud hv fetched arsenal like 50m, ... The same arsenal can't pay Nicolas Pepe's 72m fee once.

Man City don't need Bayern money. They value one more season of Leroy than the rubbish offer Bayern are offering. It's a perfect F.uck you to Bayern and I love it.

raumdeuter:
What is this City initial valuation that you mentioned let us know

$110m

Swissh:
It makes sense to keep him for another season if Bayern don’t match his valuation or get close to it. It shows the club is strong and will get another season with him. Their current valuation is about 70million which is even reasonable.

Bayern don’t seem to value Leroy too much with such derisory offers.

Its their habit. They also bully other german clubs and buy players with the price of peanuts from them. Bayern are the only rich club I know that are stingy.

Swissh:
A player city bought for 41million. Bayern are mad and will sleep there cus city won't bulge one bit.

City already told them to F.uck off

raumdeuter:
How many years does Sancho have on his deal and how many years does Sane?

Sane is just returning from a 9month injury so who knows what form he would be and if he would ever regain his pre injury form

Hazard was in the same position as Leroy and went for about 100million. Man city won't sell him for anything less than their initial asking price. 60million for a player of Leroy quality is a joke.

Swissh:
Bayern Munich are high on something stronger than weed . Infact, let City pay them instead.

40m being their opening offer? lol If Sancho is going for 100million, Leroy should be nothing less than that if not more. Bayern are trolling.

Guess the player

Eruditor:
"Conspiracy" is people's excuse to avoid being critical thinkers.

If you disagree with someone, present your own researched facts and people can exchange arguments. All these snide remarks and sarcasm are just symptoms of intellectual laziness, to be honest.

Truth be told there are some conspiracy theory that are just not worth thinking about or debating about. There are others that are interesting and backed up with few facts that will have you scratching your head e.g That William Shakespeare never wrote any of the works that have been attributed to him and the Olympic and the Titanic was switched.