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pkasso:
This is wrong. Everyone is always painting us as the bad guys when in reality we have done more than most in helping German football.

In 2003 when Dortmund were battling insolvency, guess who helped them from going bankrupt by donating 2 million euros? Bayern.

Bayern have also helped other Bundesliga clubs indirectly by paying generously for transfers. Real Madrid paid a combined sum of 32 million euros for Ozil and Khedira, despite the 2 players coming off the back of an impressive World Cup. Compare that to Bayern paying Dortmund 37 million euros for Goetze, a Bundesliga record transfer at that time and later 35 million for Hummels. They would have reasonably broke the bank for Lewy but Dortmund preferred to let him run down his contract.

So you see, Bayern is not the big bad wolf you are making us out to be.

ok nice right up. But you can't deny Bayern have Monopoly over the entire league in terms of transfer and dominance. Their domination will continue for the next 6+ seaons. Since bundeliga don't allow sugar daddies take over their clubs it's only mismanagement from Bayern that will end their stronghold on the league. Dont you get bored knowing you have already won the league before the season starts?

raumdeuter:
The same way Sane has been in the hospital and B team for the past 9months. Its not that hard. PSG let Rabiot rot but now Rabiot is with Juve, got a fat sign on fee that should have gone to PSG, got salary for a year from PSG and he still moved

Let City also do that and lets see how they balance their books with FFP and UEFA ban looming

If the selling club is telling you they don't care about the money if it doesn't reach their valuation and the player can stay then that should tell you something. They consider it an insult to bid below what to them is reasonable which is exactly what Bayern are doing. Ffp is a three year circle. They have no fresh problem with ffp and don't need to balance their books yet.

raumdeuter:
By this time next year lets see what City has to say about Sanes future when he would have signed a pre contract and fat sign on fee

City already gave their answer. You know city can let Sane rot with their b team till next year. Psg did the same with Rabiot.

Expert17:
If you guys are complaining about Bayern munich.

Juventus are king of free transferr, .... With all the Stars in the club right now, most are either free transfers or exchange.

Juventus are really old ladies. The kind of deals they have gotten for old and past players who became very good at that club is still a mystery. Juventus has spent a quiet a lot recently. Ronaldo and De ligt. They are have actually spent big on players through their history unlike Bayern.

Swissh:
And their was animosity between Bayern and city after the Bayern president talked shit about city and the owners. City will either tell Bayern to either pay up or Sit down.

City don’t lose players like other clubs. Why do you think Real Madrid’s and us have not snapped them Aguero, Silva in his prime, De Bruyne, Sterling etc. They don't care about the money. Before we went for Suarez, Aguero was our first choice and once City said he was not for sale that was the end according to Zubizarreta. City won't bulge at all unless Bayern bid something sensible.

Expert17:
That's the same way Lewandowski joined for free.
Bayern will wait for you.

This time Bayern are not the ones in charge. Man City are the ones telling them to F.uck off.

raumdeuter:
Unless you are a club doped by external funding no one will spend more than they have to.

ok

Expert17:
Not playing for a complete season and also returning from a career-ending injury normally should reduce the initial transfer fee by 50%.....

If they don't sell him now, he might join a direct rival in EPL ( Liverpool, Chelsea or Man utd) for free with the promise of higher salary and 1st team football.

Acl is not a career ending injury and like I said if City are prepared to allow Leroy Sane run out his contract and leave for free rather than join Bayern for the scrap they are offering it should you tell everything.

raumdeuter:
So you think Man city wont sell Sane for less than 110M. You got jokes

Their current valuation of Leroy is 70million which is pretty reasonable.

raumdeuter:
Its smart business, we got Robben for 25M from Madrid when players of his stature were going for 35 to 40M
We got Lucatoni the top scorer in Serie A for 11 M
We got Thiago from Barcelona for 25M when he could have been worth 100M

Its smart business, you dont pay more for anyone if you can get him for less

Yes I agree it's smart business but it doesn't mean Bayern are not stingy. They are also lucky to be playing in a league were they are the big shots. That model won't work elsewhere.

Expert17:
They don't spend anyhow is different from stingy......

Man city will decide to take 40-50m for Sane or watch him leave for free..
Aaron Ramsey left arsenal for free, a player that shud hv fetched arsenal like 50m, ... The same arsenal can't pay Nicolas Pepe's 72m fee once.

Man City don't need Bayern money. They value one more season of Leroy than the rubbish offer Bayern are offering. It's a perfect F.uck you to Bayern and I love it.

raumdeuter:
What is this City initial valuation that you mentioned let us know

$110m

Swissh:
It makes sense to keep him for another season if Bayern don’t match his valuation or get close to it. It shows the club is strong and will get another season with him. Their current valuation is about 70million which is even reasonable.

Bayern don’t seem to value Leroy too much with such derisory offers.

Its their habit. They also bully other german clubs and buy players with the price of peanuts from them. Bayern are the only rich club I know that are stingy.

Swissh:
A player city bought for 41million. Bayern are mad and will sleep there cus city won't bulge one bit.

City already told them to F.uck off

raumdeuter:
How many years does Sancho have on his deal and how many years does Sane?

Sane is just returning from a 9month injury so who knows what form he would be and if he would ever regain his pre injury form

Hazard was in the same position as Leroy and went for about 100million. Man city won't sell him for anything less than their initial asking price. 60million for a player of Leroy quality is a joke.

Swissh:
Bayern Munich are high on something stronger than weed . Infact, let City pay them instead.

40m being their opening offer? lol If Sancho is going for 100million, Leroy should be nothing less than that if not more. Bayern are trolling.

Guess the player

Eruditor:
"Conspiracy" is people's excuse to avoid being critical thinkers.

If you disagree with someone, present your own researched facts and people can exchange arguments. All these snide remarks and sarcasm are just symptoms of intellectual laziness, to be honest.

Truth be told there are some conspiracy theory that are just not worth thinking about or debating about. There are others that are interesting and backed up with few facts that will have you scratching your head e.g That William Shakespeare never wrote any of the works that have been attributed to him and the Olympic and the Titanic was switched.

NextD18:
And for more fame and cash too, not just for the love.

No doubt, Drake is just too good and most importantly, versatile in the Industry. He's one of my best artists as the matter of fact, but you need to listen to that "War", you'll think you are listening to Digdat or AJ Tracey.

I get you. I listened to War since last year and initially my reaction to it was as a Grime song.

NextD18:
Lol. Drake is streetsmart to an extent, reason behind his consistency in the industry.

This current UK rappers are gradually taking the Rap industry and Nigha needs to fit in, albeit the wrong way. He should just feature them to be on track instead.

He released the top boy album last year which has loads of UK artists, look at all the UK artists and actors he put in top boy. Drake is doing so much for the UK when he really doesn’t have to at all. Drake doesn’t even need to make music anymore, yet people still talk about him like he’s an upcoming artist who need recognition. At this point he is just making music because he likes it

Kimbeast:
Robben had to go . He was just too injury prone after the first two seasons. Malouda was actually great at Lyon. It's a mystery why he never played at that same level at Chelsea.

ok thanks.

thorrvik55:
Arsenal fans would be in a better position to describe Robben's curlers (R2)

Funny tin is with Robben u know he wants to cut in and take that shot

I love Robben. He was so underrated through out his career. Why did Chelsea even sell him because I know he was good in his first season. Was it injury or lose of form? Hazard and Robben on both wings for you guys would have been hot. You sold Robben and replaced him with Malouda if I remember correctly.

Capaldi:
Well, players like aguero and messi, the dribblers like defenders to take them on and they fool them. They like to wait for defenders to commit so they can slalom past multiple players. Robben made a career out of it. They dont like players like vvd who waits and waits for them to make a move first, while blocking their pass route.

Spot on about Robben. Immediately a defender commits to him,two seconds he has shifted and is sending a curler at the near post. He became a one trick pony.

Cc Simonjazzy you asked before about Aguero vs Van dijk 1 v 1. This is Aguero talking about Van dijk.

Swissh:
This is why it's tedious to have any kind of written exchanges with you. You lack an actual intellectual upbringing so its not a surprise you never apply sense to anything.

Oh my!

raumdeuter:
I will quote one of them

You will quote one of what?

raumdeuter:
Were you one of those who argued he was better than Vidic? And Vidic is the best defender in the EPL he didnt just do it for 1 season

Don't ask me anything. Go and look for those that talked about vidic and how umtiti won the champions league at Barca.

raumdeuter:
People on this forum has said VVD is the best defender in EPL history, We have had people comparing him to Maldini

Quote them and tell them whatever you want to ridicule them . But please don't quote me with things I never wrote or add hyperbole to things I wrote in my posts. Thank you.

spillo1:
You actually have a point. I remember most top sides were ready to pay 60/70million for him before going to Liverpool.

Liverpool struck the bargain of the decade. Even at that fee of 75million they underpaid for Van dijk. His mere signing calmed down a defence that always leaked in goals like basket.

raumdeuter:
You cannot be the greatest defender the world has been and be benched by Veltman Martins Indo and Verhaegh

ok

raumdeuter:
When are you going to tell us the players that benched VVD from a world cup

Dayo where your drunk when you typed this.

Eruditor:
I know that VVD is a very very very very good defender. I feel like he is a tad overhyped sha. Nevertheless, both or all of you are making good points. I feel the answer is at the middle. I don't think he is the best defender we have ever seen and I don't agree that he is average. He is elite and I have said so before as well. That is my honest opinion.

Of course I don't think anybody ever said he was the best defender we have seen that will be an exaggeration. What most of us said was that he is a very complete defender. He is strong,fast,his positioning is always top notch, he is a leader as well and rarely makes mistakes.