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Herbiedeen:
Agreed But definitely not as useless as your club's best defender

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ToyinDipo:
If Madrid had 2 Ramos at CB, the goals conceded would be triple

Ramos is a useless defender.

spillo1:
LMFAO........Kroos 15goals in 4 years , modric 12 goals in 4years. That's the goal stats of the midfielders that bomb forward and are the reasons Madrid defense is useless. Clap for yourself.

As someone rightly said before Agenda.

spillo1:
LMFAO.....Who are those midfielders in Madrid that bomb forward that exposes their defense? Casemiro? Kroos, Modric? If so, what are their goal stats for the last 4 years? What am I reading here.

Lol even I was shocked. When he said Carvajal exposes Madrid defense I knew instantly he doesn't know even an atom of what he is talking about.

Herbiedeen:
and you also stop sprouting what is not

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Herbiedeen:
Yea cos only he is the GK, RB, CB, LB do u even know what you're arguing sef

Please Stop quoting me. Thank you very much.

Herbiedeen:
Finally, he nailed it....RIVAL..... I don't expect less from a Barka fan...smh

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ToyinDipo:
I was having this same argument somewhere, some years ago. Maybe as a right back, Ramos is a great defender, but as a central back he isn't. He isn't a disciplined CB, always out of position, committing reckless fouls here are there because of his defensive deficiencies.

How can some people be shitting on Terry and Ferdinand and then go ahead to list Ramos that is wreckless, commit fouls, always out of position, makes mistakes weekly and with 25 red cards in his career as a great defender. That's an Error i repeat. Judging Ramos by his defensive ability he is a wack defender and a clown.
Just look at some of the amount of league goals conceded by Madrid for some seasons.


2018-19: 46

2017-18: 44

2016-17: 41

2015-16: 34

2014-15: 38

2013-14: 38

Madrid has averaged 40 conceded goals per season for the last 6 seasons.

monerozi5590:
Blasphemy.

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Galactico4ever:
Fact still remains he has been in FIFA and UEFA team of the year more times than any defender from your team,plus he's been carrying the Spanish national Team those 8yrs.

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A40:
Anyway Ramos is better than any defender that ever suited up for the club you support so whatever

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hensben:
Ramos is indiscipline and reckless, he is just lucky to have Cr7 and great midfielders in their peak then. In Spain, he had dominant Barca players that ensured those national success. Ramos positional sense is average. The guy is just a dirty player who got goals from set piece or corner kick.

Ramos makes comical errors almost weekly. If he was playing in the Primer league and was English he would have been insulted and ridiculed weekly for his school boy defending plus errors and getting sent off. The same people who are shitting on Ferdinand and Terry are the same ones calling Ramos a great defender, that's an ERROR in my book. Sergio Ramos that gets demolished weekly in la liga. He is a wack defender.

Galactico4ever:
Courtois might go down as the most expensive GK flop ever to play for los blancos.I still believe he's yet to prove himself to Zidane&the fans Folks like you who dont have interest in La liga and probably watched Ramos on his bad day should shut it.Give me a centre back who have played &won four UCL finals,4 fifa club world cups,3 uefa super cups,an EURO and the World cup.Dont come here and spew out your ignorance

This is bollocks. I watch Ramos week in week out for more than 8 years because he is my direct rival in the league unlike you. Please save your preaching for somebody else interested in your whitewashing of him. Sergio Ramos is overrated and a wack defender.

A40:
You think an overrated player can survive 14 years at the highest level for Spain and Madrid winning individual and collective trophies.

Are you guys hearing yourselves at all?

Please just save your lectures about Sergio Ramos to me.

A40:
Lool go and watch Euro 2012 Final and see how Ramos pocketed Balotelli after he destroyed Germany in the semifinals

What is this ungodly Ramos slander? Show me one big CL or Spanish NT game where Ramos has cost his team victory

Imagine comparing Don Sergio to a circus like David Luiz. Blasphemous. Like Stephen A Smith would say

Their is nothing Don about Sergio Ramos when it comes to his defensive ability. One of the most overrated player I have ever seen who has whitewashed his reputation because of couple goals he scored in champions league finals. The Sergio Ramos i watch week in week out is a wack defender and a clown.

Herbiedeen:
Eeyah
Congrats, you're finally a hater
And i guess those cards made him less of a great defender abi, clueless

can you tell me the criteria(s) needed to be called the best defender in a competition

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biomustry:
Ramos and Pique are some of the greatest defenders of all time. Don't let them make you think otherwise

Their is nothing great about Ramos defensive ability. His accolades has made him more glorified than his actual ability as spillo pointed out before. Judging Ramos purely on his defensive ability he is wack and not better off than David Luiz or any other error prone defender out there. Most carded player in the history of la liga, Real Madrid, El classico ,Spainish national team, Champions league and the entire of Europe's major leagues. You can't be shitting on other defenders and go ahead to name Ramos as a great defender. That's an Error.

popizaino:

So this is what makes him a wack defender?

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kendrick93:
According to Ramdeuter, getting red cards is a mark of a good defender

Just look at some of his disciplinary record over some seasons. He is a foul machine and a brainless defender. Sergio Ramos is a wack defender.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]This is what you were asked, but you've been repeating the same line like a leaked presidential speech.

Kindly help us with a 21st century CB that is better than Ramos. [/color]

Don't jump into my mention to ask me irrelevant questions. Thank you.

popizaino:
Yes, Sergio Ramos is a wack Defender but was able to keep big teams at bay when it mattered most on several occasions. You can't be wack and last long like ramos. Where is pepe,? where is raul albiol? ........

The only thing he did constantly was commiting fouls, accumulating yellow cards, getting sent off and constant ass whopping from Barcelona. Most carded player in la liga, champions league,El calssico and Spain national team. Sergio Ramos defensively is a clown and a wack defender.

Herbiedeen:
Yes, that's why players opinion is always way ahead that of the spectators (especially those that can win all matches all season with their mouth)
Little wonder most top strikers tag him 'The Toughest Opponent' they've faced
And need i remind you, he started his career as a RB before being deployed as a CB (paired with cannavaro), so if he plays more offensive, the style is there before already cos thats the trend of fullbacks

Infact name one defender that matches him in Longetivity, Consistency, Top Performance, Personal Achievement, Team Success, (both for club and country) in this 21st century....

i'm waiting

Sergio Ramos is a wack defender and a clown. David Luiz with a Spanish passport.

simonjassy:
well,i Would Research On This.What is your opinion on him vs aguero 1 v 1?

Aguero has and will definitely give him a tough time. He even listed Aguero as the hardest person he has had to mark. 1 vs 1 I think he can definitely match him for pace and strength so I will just say 50/50.

simonjassy:
A good defender requires both abilities.i.e shadowing and tackling.lunging into a tackle all the time is stupid,so is shadowing all the time.shadowing is mostly used to delay the opponent in order to buy time for support as well as cutting passing and to a small extent shooting angle.The best defenders to me are those who decide what they do base on risk and reward. Dijk is very good at shadowing,i don't know much about his tackling though.
If Aguero should face dijk 1 v 1, who would best the other?.

Van dijk is very capable of both. Check spillo1 reply you will see his tackling success. Van dijk posses all the abilities of a top top defender.

popizaino:
Guy pity my ribs now.

If Daniel Alves had played in England he would have been another Justin hoyte

Someone excelled at both club and Country playing at very highest level against high and mighty, fast and strong, pacy and skillful players and still came out top and you had the nerves to call him David 2.0
SMH

The only thing he excelled at was receiving yellow cards, getting sent off and constant humiliations at the hands of Barcelona. Sergio Ramos is a wack Defender.

Expert17:
Instead of Ramos to defend and make Courtois keep clean sheet..........he will be dragging PK with Hazard and Benzema....

His useless defendiing @ the last world cup is affecting De gea career uptil now

Sergio Ramos is a very poor defender and a clown.

popizaino:
Wait ooooo. Vvd is a beast if defender but ramos is not .

As someone rightly said before if Ramos was playing in England he will be David Luiz 2.0

Ibeme:
I have no problem with both styles of defending TBH. I don't have to see aggressive defending nor do I have to see clean defending to rate you. Whichever one you are doing, just do it well.

Just like you have Roy Keane, Edgar Davids and Diego Someone that can kill you with tackles, or you have Makelele who hardly tackles but specializes in guiding you into traffic. Both are still great DMs.

VVD style of defending is very effective for me, same as Vidic that will engage you.

Spot on. Thank you for being objective and not letting your bias cloud your judgement.

timbros:
Yea, that was how he cut off the angles and forced Morata into a bad choice in the very last match he played.

Thank you for showing Van dijk is not God and makes mistakes from time to time . What a shocker the world is about to end.

spillo1:
LORD.......I wish I can like the bold a million times. What a perfect explanation. Last season Van dijk attempted 38 tackles and came out with a perfect score of not being dribbled past. What Van Dijk does is ensure that he is not fully exposed by commiting recklessly, and he instead looks to stay with his man, force a decision, intercept or block the ball. This highlights his superb reading of the game and near-flawless defending. Ferdinand was similar. He used to go on many matches without committing a foul, 30+ games sometimes, because he didn't have to engage attackers physically to shut them down.

He has shown that the best way to defend is to avoid 1 vs 1 entirely. Best way to defend 1 vs 1 is to turn them into 1 vs many. Van Dijk is great at doing that perfectly. I will take him at my club in an heartbeat.

raumdeuter:
He can only do that because there are people who are going to do the dirty work for him
Defending is a dirty job, its not for people who are scared of confrontation
The few times he tried to engage, it ended in tears like the time he went for Martial and that Asian guy in Salzburg

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raumdeuter:
How can you make mistakes when you flee from confrontation? You cant lose a contest you didnt engage in

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He does that in a smart way, cutting off the angles and basically forcing the attacker into a bad choice. He is incredible in 1 vs 1 situations. Committing to the tackle is for guys who aren't confident of their ability to force a striker into a bad position. i can smell your hatred for him all through your post. You have sworn never to admit anything about him so let's just end it. I don't like people that can never be objective.