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airmark:
Where's your epl best 11? Stop shooting and hiding. Let's see what makes your own team tick.

I see you have nothing to make a case for Ronaldo. Kindly hold your peace.

hardeycute:
You're just going round the circle, all I ask for is your own version of the EPL 11. I'm not going to force you to add him to your lineup, I only want to see a difference choice being made.

Next time don't just jump into any discussion. This was my initial post. Make your case for Ronaldo or hold your peace

Godx:
Ronaldo has no business in an all time premier league 11

Expert17:
There is a reason you see Analyst compare Veira to Keane, Makelele and those defensive minded players not Lampard, Scholes, Gerrard etc

Why are you still arguing bro. Vieira is not a defensive midfielder and was never the deepest midfielder for Arsenal or France.

Expert17:
Bold claim that Veira played in defensive midfield for arsenal............Even Gerrard played defensive midfield for England national team.

He never played deeper than others. Vieira spent almost all his career (both at Arsenal and for France) next to a defensive midfielder.

hardeycute:
I believe you have an alternative to Ronaldo, why not share your own EPL 11?

Ronaldo should not make any epl all time Eleven. If you disagree make your case for him and I will do the opposite.

Expert17:
Who were the midfielders starting at arsenal, alongside Viera??

Always do your research before making bold claims.

thorrvik55:
Oya drop ur 11 let's see the GREAT players that'll be in it

Next time don't jump into a discussion you know nothing about. Thank you once again.

Expert17:
Maybe you will understand now,.... he played deeper than the other midfielders in Arsenal midfield.

And Scholes is a central midfielder

How did Vieira play deeper?

thorrvik55:
It's obvious u are a Liverpool fan..

No wonder u can't drop ur all time PL team because it probably won't include any Liverpool player (apart from maybe Gerrard)

I am not a Liverpool fan. Thank you.

If all you need is 2 and half season of playing good in England to be guaranteed a spot in an all time best Eleven then Salah and Suarez should be the first name on your teams.

airmark:
God bless you. That was why i wanted to know who and who godx wanted to put in his epl11.

Ronaldo's best 3yrs for Man utd in epl, was more outstanding than Schole's 19yrs. If Ronaldo won't make it, 60% of names people dropped shouldn't make it.

Now i could see the likes of expert and afrodoc changing positions after your post, after they had called hardeycute names for defending Ronaldo. '2face' people.

I told you already if you can't name the Ronaldo exploits in the league that gives him a spot forget about it.

Expert17:
To make it easy for you

Keane and Viera are defensive midfielders.

Lampard attacking midfielder

Scholes Central midfielder...... ( @45 years old, he will start at Chelsea right now)

so no need to compare them.

Vieira was not a defensive midfielder.

Swissh:
Who the F*cuk is Roy Keane compared to Vieira.

I was surprised the amount of people putting Keane over Vieira.

airmark:
I asked of your epl team first bro. You answered with a question. Let's see if all your players did better than Ronaldo when they played in epl.

The discussion is not about my epl team. If you can't make an argument for Ronaldo using his exploits in the league on why he should get a spot then forget about it.

airmark:
Just telling you that if Ronaldo doesn't deserve it, 60% of those you may pick, may not deserve it.

Who are in your epl best 11 ever?

What league exploits give ronaldo a spot in an epl all time 11?

airmark:
What spectacular things did Scholes do as a central midfielder in 19yrs, to deserve it?

If Ronaldo didn't do anything, Scholes should not near the bench of epl all time 11.

My post has nothing to do with Scholes.

Ibime:
I believe he is the first and only player to win WPOTY while playing in EPL. That deserves a spot.

Winning WPOTY is inconsequential. Using league exploits Ronaldo did not perform anything to be included in an epl all time 11.

PDPGuy:
What is your all-time premier league 11?

Ronaldo has no business in an all time premier league 11?

England has actuy witnessed some ridiculous strikers. Rank the following

spillo1:
If I remember correctly Rooney had 160+ league goals at 26yrs old. What a wasted potential .

True. As a teenager, I thought he was Ballon d'or material.

Melvyn11:
It's a combination of lack of understanding and conspiracy theorists. Some people think 5g causes cancer, which isn't true and there's also a conspiracy theory that 5G is the cause or helps transmit Covid-19 which is also a lie.

People believe it to such a degree that some are actually burning the towers down in Europe.

What is up with everyone afraid of 5g and creating controversial about it?

Jokerman:
Imagine someone picking MSN over MXI... Even I a non Barcelona player knows the truth... If not for Jose, that team would have won back to back to back UCL....

Imagine someone picking Suarez over Eto'o just because the former serves Messi like a feeding bottle ... Eto'o that change Barcelona fortunes with ronaldinho and Deco... Ok o...

Iniesta > Laudrup anyday....

Messi fans though... Another one is still talking about Ronaldo... Wetin he do una

If you are not comfortable with people opinion and choice then keep shut. For the fact you think your choice is the right one just shows are myopic you are.

hinohsend:
Suarez



Iniesta, close though.



Messi by far. Most important coach and person in Barça's history is Cruyff though.

Edit: Messi is the most important person in Barca's history.

You all are confusing player for person. The most important person who set us on our path to success we are enjoying now is Cruyff.

hinohsend:
Barca didn't win trophies because of their philosophy, sure it played a role, but the main reason Barca won was because they had great players like Messi, Xavi and İniesta. After Cruyff left Barca went trophyless from '99- '04. Before Ronaldinho, Deco, Eto'o and co, majority of whom ere not from LaMasia- brought success.

Ok

Sommyroy10:
LaudrupCruyffPotato, Potàto. I can't decide.

Finally someone who is not blinded by recent bias.

seankafor:
oga even Israel provided recconaisanse for that particular operation.
How you guys gave Chad all the glory still baffles me

Chad don't even deserve any glory. That country have been sleeping on Boko Haram until recently when their solders were killed and decided to wake up from their slumber.Boko Haram had been using their territory to launch attacks for a long time. If they had done their part since we would have recorded much progress.

FirstbornWds:
Educate me please

Don't worry bro.

FirstbornWds:
Brother, Cryuff:s philosophy was great. It won us trophies no fount but trust me, Messi made the difference. Spain did greatly adapting to that style but it really didn't last. Check out how far they gave faired since winning the Euros. They have always been the need to have some sort of outstanding player(s) to get the job done. Iniesta was Spain's talisman then. But when he started declining and couldn't penetrate upfront as much as he did in the past, they started declining.

The same can be said about Guardiola's style and implementation in Bayern and Man City(early days). There really wasn't an exceptional olayer to get it done even while they held more possession.

Arsene whenger adopted the same but he really couldn't conquer the global stage.

Same goes for Real Madrid Lopetugi.. He implemented the style well enough but there was no exception to it.

Forgive me, I don't mean to be rude to Cryuff's philosophy but I just need to be plain as it should be. Messi made it quite a big deal than he, the implementer. Even Guardiola did it better at Barcleona

Spain was successfully Yes or No? And Iniesta was never Spain talisman. Do you know the meaning of talisman? Bro like I said let's not go back and forth on this issue. You say Messi and I respect that.

FirstbornWds:
We are

Ok let's not go back and forth on this issue even though you are verrrrrrrrrrrrrry very wrong.

FirstbornWds:
I know Laudrup. Of course, I do respect him as a worthy competitor, but trust me, I'll pick Iniesta anytime. Man, this guy was a beast. He was just partially unlucky to have played with other great players ( in the name of Messi, Xavi, Iniesta and the likes).


Iniesta had in the past single-handedly won games for Barcelona than Laudrup, not only that. The former was more of a possesive, playmaker and even scorer than Laudrup.

Truth is, I'll practically say Iniesta was a refined version of Zidane than Laudrup would be.

Are we talking about the same Laudrup?

FirstbornWds:
Cruff's philosophy was not really effective until Messi came into the picture( at least not in the global European stage, - UCL and the likes). Cruff's might have brought in the philosophy but Messi was the major instigator and the very one that threw it into major limelight.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not downplaying his contribution but I'm only saying Messi has been the major click to making sure that the philosophy was a bomb. Xavi and Iniesta were also a major contribution too.

You can as well consider other team's that have upheld that kind of philosophy and check out their achievement, without Messi.

So yes, Messi is a more important player to Barcelona's history than Cyruff.

We won numerous league titles and a champions title before Messi came into the picture all thanks to Cruyff and his philosophy. We also won another champions league before Messi became the man main. All that was possible because of the philosophy Cruyff laid down. Without Messi we probably would have a different player there not as good but he would fit within our philosophy and we still win trophy's, not as much as now but we will still be a top club. All you have to do is look at the success of Spain.