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matify83:
Even Jesus would have been suspended from deeper life if Luke 7 : 36- 50 occured today.

Pharisees!!

LOL 😂🤣😂 wanted to type this just one, maybe they should kick Jesus off the throne and name Kumuyi their new Lord and savior.

Deeper life na fake church, not built upon the foundation that is Jesus the son of the living God.

Amotolongbo:
Young man, if anyone gives you anything like what you called Bible, the onus as someone literate and wise is to read it, know about the antecedents and precedence to it.
If dogmas like you are asked who wrote the bible, the next answer would be “God wrote the bible” as if there is a printing press in your claimed heaven.

I’d never been to catholic service except a wedding and I was born Pentecostal, my brain is developing with my growth and never stayed juvenile like a baby.

"if dogmas like me", is a conservation too hard for you to have like you find it hard reading a book. You can just ASK instead of assuming to know who I am or what my response would be. But you probably have a top degree in assumptions and imaginations instead of applying yourself to read and ask what you are ignorant of.

By the way my answer is, Men inspired by the spirit of God wrote scriptures which are from Genesis to Malachi, while some texts are considered poetry among them. While the new testament is composed of letters with one sole revelatory book called the Bible.

You may have been used to having conversations with dogmas and illiterates or babies but not everyone is like that.

P. S don't care if you were born Pentecostal, you are either a child of God or you are not. It's should be embarrassing for you to say such meanwhile you were mentioning Catholic bible.

Simple question remains HAVE YOU READ THE BIBLE, THE ONE YOUR PENTECOSTAL PARENTS HAD WHILE YOU WERE BORN INTO THEIR HOUSE. HAVE YOU ACTUALLY READ AND STUDIED IT?

unitysheart:
Show us the original text where hell fire featured

did I tell you that hell fire is featured in any text?

Don't be confused, you wrote"Those that invented that false teaching know wetin dem dey do. Na to instill fear in people and nothing more.

Original bible texts and translation no get that teaching inside am."

Of which I wrote the soul that sins shall die, now if you are asking me about what I wrote I will response respectfully to you but if you can't state or answer my simple question, asking you which original text you mentioned doesn't speak of hell nor mention God judging the souls of sinners, you either repent or await the repercussions of your lies

Amotolongbo:
You don’t need reading the book to know that was the concept if you are wise enough to read the antecedents to the putting together of the Bible.

Moreover what do you mean in your “Note”?

🤣 "You don't need reading the book"

Which one is what do I mean? Lemme guess you were a Catholic who probably never opened her Bible but claimed to know what was inside.

🤣 please don't tell me you don't know how to read or you don't read documents before signing them. Because how can you be literate and be complaining of scammers when YOU CLEARLY FAIL TO READ THE PRINTED OUT TEXT YOURSELF... my God, is that how you gullibly trust men

pooozeee:
We heard the burning from the holy books. Have you ever heard about anyone that has ever been burnt by God ?

no make the people of Sodom and Gomorrah swear for you o

kiddaz:
There's no burning in any hell. That's scripted by man to control you through organised religions and guess what? God has no religion

It's why I laugh at those who believe God is only in thier organised bs lies. God is in all things and all things in him. When you truly start seeking him in truth and spirit you will begin to see through what mankind is doing with religion and politics. These are the highest form of mind control, and then education for classification to keep you in the matrix. Free yourselves or forever remain slaves and die without knowing the truth.

you found "the Divine" abeg who is that "the Divine"

Amotolongbo:
Common stop dancing about and answer the question.
Which of the bibles are you talking about?

have you read the one you claim to know, that 73 books Catholic Bible?

Tell us where it says, teaches or shows an example of what you wrote

The concept of Heaven and Hell is to empower the leaders (spiritual or political) to enjoy this life to the fullest, making the followers to be docile to their authorities and command promising them good life after earth in heaven. The same good life the leaders on earth are enjoying, not waiting to get it in heaven.


Note: Catholics are not part of God's church built upon the foundation that Jesus is the son of the living God.

richmond500:
Logically, if there is only one God, there won't be need for other religion and their gods, but the world has approx 10,000 to 20,000 gods.
If you could proof with certainty that there is only one God, there will be no need for the other 19,999 gods

bro are you underestimating man and it's history, you should be writing millions not tens of thousands, only India only has more than what you wrote.

And which one is if I can prove with certainty?? Bro even Elijah did that and Israel did not change from their evil ways

Now this is apart from the fact that some traditions just give the main creator a different name, much of what's written in religions show a corrupted version of the truth. Either some of it was forgotten or humans manipulated and introduced imaginations into it.

But the existence of so much lies means there was something true that was the basis for all of it.

Amotolongbo:
I know the first Bible, catholic one has 73books, and some other pirated ones with different numbers of books. Which one are you talking about?

which one have you read? Not the one you have for decoration or church visitation, like the one you open and read

merits:
No soul will die we just transform from one phase to another back to the question hell fire 🔥 is real,is suffering upon suffering in the hell for the sinner when their soul will feel the pain till God is please and pardon them if it warrants but not all, for those that enters paradise is enjoyment upon enjoyment they will be please and their soul will be at peace.

God said the souls that sins shall die, Jesus said God can kill the soul, so bro where did you get your no soul will die?

Femzaremz:
If hell is real,then EVERYBODY, and I mean, every single human being, including all the silly christians on this post would be going there!
The margin of error being so slim!

is that what you tell yourself when your conscience tells you not to do evil

No deceive yourself, people are asking for mercy and receiving it because they heard and believe God is merciful to those who obey Him

richmond500:
Zeus is historical text and he is believed to be the ruler of all Gods?
Do u believe that too abi u choose the one to believe cos they fed u with the lies from young.

Medusa, Prometheus, Poseidon, Nika are all in historical texts, should we also believe them?

bro you wrote spiderman not zeus, and as much as I know Zeus story and text, he was never called the creator of heavens and earth but one who killed his father and besides if Zeus is so called ruler of gods does he rule Odin as well.

Some of us have even read about Buddha, so when we tell you there is only one God we are not speaking ignorantly and those beings are not God.

Lol

richmond500:
monkeys are not our parents, we share a common ancestry as life begin with elements (Hydrogen, Oxygen, carbon and Nitrogen) scattered all over the earth and with the right proportion and under the right circumstance, they can produce life.
This is how life was formed, not a magical foklore creature shouting let there be man and let's a woman come out of his rib

problem is what are the "right circumstances" you say it not a magical folk are so state clearly the CIRCUMSTANCES if not how is it different from a foklore

Amotolongbo:
Please which of the bibles?

how many of them do you know?

richmond500:
I already explained this to u, we're u not listeneing, no part of evolution says monkey turn into humans, it's your biblical interpretation of things to facts that made u think evolution is like turning water to wine.

We are primates with common ancestral gene.
We share 98-99% of our dNa with the chimpanzees, and DNA is a long line of genetic traits passed down through generations.

It doesn't mean monkeys turn into humans,this is not bible

is that the DNA that shows they are your parents?

Nteogwuija:
Your only proof is that someone should study the word of God. Lol. It hasn't occurred to you yet that that book you so revere is just a book just like any other hybrid(fiction and nonfiction) book written by humans?

thought the Bible is a combination of several books written across the span of thousands of years by various authors writing about the same God?

richmond500:
I already gave u practical evidence of evolution while u are still hell bent on unseen spirit.

Faith is believing something which you cannot see, touch or perceive.

You are no different from a child who believes that spiderman exists and if spider bites him, he might start shooting cobwebs right from his palms

is spiderman and Peter Parker in historical text or are you intellectually misbehaving right now

unitysheart:
Better question.

Those that invented that false teaching know wetin dem dey do. Na to instill fear in people and nothing more.

Original bible texts and translation no get that teaching inside am.

which teaching, that the soul that sins shall die or that God kills both the body and the soul? Which original Bible text is that because I have a couple of them on my phone. Do share let's check what you are saying

mustnotbenamed:
He’ll probably gain PEACE because you’ll remain where you belong

lol more like the earth will gain peace from the wicked and His eyes won't behold their wickedness anymore

kennethesan:
There will be no after because it is eternal and no gain or loss. ..
He never wants you there in the first place... Going to hell is a choice.

lol Going to hell is NOT a choice but a PUNISHMENT

SmartPolician:
God is a father who loves with discipline because if you don't discipline your child you will raise a beast. He doesn't give a damn about emotions. If He gives rules and you disobey them, you go collect. If you obey, you enjoy!

Ending up in hellfire is a decision you made for yourself - God is not to blame for it. Speaking of gain, what does God gain from a sinner in the first place? A sinner is useless to God.

lol God gains nothing from useless people 🤣 so he incinerates the trash

kpankpangolo:
It’s why I don’t disturb myself over anything religion. Be a good person to others and God — if there is one — will guarantee you access to a peaceful afterlife. Seventy/eighty years on earth is too short to use in judging someone’s eternity. What about those who died at ten years old or fifteen?

10year is old self, what about 2years old? Well thank God for the blood of Jesus that cleanses us(repentant and the innocent) of all sins.

Well Paul wrote something about children of believers being sanctified 😊

seunmsg:
You mean hellfire na scam?

ask her well o, maybe she has died before and discovered the truth

Amotolongbo:
That is why we say all these things na scam.
The concept of Heaven and Hell is to empower the leaders (spiritual or political) to enjoy this life to the fullest, making the followers to be docile to their authorities and command promising them good life after earth in heaven. The same good life the leaders on earth are enjoying, not waiting to get it in heaven.

shows you don't even know what's written in the Bible, don't blame scammers for your ignorance

seunmsg:
I saw this very interesting question on Twitter.

“ So after burning us in hell what will God actually gain?”

What do you think?

if you tell us what God gains by giving anyone eternal life then I may just answer this question 😁

MaxInDHouse:
Burning you for what?

Well this is what the Bible God feel about tormenting living people?


They have built the high places of Topheth in the Valley of Ben Hinnom to burn their sons and daughters in the fire—something I did not command, nor did it enter my mind. ‭Jeremiah 7:31 NIV‬

Tormenting living people in fire has never ever come into the mind of our God!

well only the dead are in hell 😁 and God is not the God of the dead 😊

Antichristian2:
Yes. God creating everything that exists we classify as good or bad! This can be infered from Isaiah 45:7 - I create the light and make the darkness. I send good times and bad times. I, the LORD, am the one who does these things. (NLT)

wait so because Isaiah wrote that God created darkness it now means to you that God created sin?
So according to you sin came through God and not through Adam?
Wait so the phones we are using was also created by God, even the medicines in the pharmacy were also made and manufactured by Him as well?

Didn't Isaiah in that 45:7 write God said He does all THESE things and not ALL things. Why are you claiming that God does everything? Did God also type this to you?

This can be infered from 1 Corinthians 10:13 - No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; He will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, He will also provide an escape, so that you can stand up under it. Though we know many believers did go through much temptations more than what is common to man like Job and few others.

so you are saying contraying to what is written, what you experience contradicts it abi?

First off 1 Corinthians 10:13 wasn't referring to everyone but to YOU, a specific people Paul was writing to. Those who have been freed from the power of sin and have in them he who is greater than he that is in the world.

So just admit you don't know God nor His word, for it is written.. Take my burden for it is easy. Even Moses wrote Deut.30.14 The message is very close at hand; it is on your lips and in your heart so that you can obey it.

I asked you which part or law could they not obey...

The second part is also from Paul.
For no one can ever be made right with God by doing what the law commands. The law simply shows us how sinful we are. But now, apart from the law, the righteousness of God has been revealed, as attested by the Law and the Prophets. And this righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no distinction, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 3:20-23.

If the law was the only way to be right with God then all those who had the law would be right with God but that was never so, those before Moses and after Him were still right with God even though they were not given the laws of Moses.
Rom.3.19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. (NIV)

I expected you to state the laws they could not obey or which as you claimed God gave them which they could not obey which you also claimed would make God evil and wicked and a God of hatred. Instead you are hearing preaching about Jesus given to us by the love of God not because he gave us harsh laws but because he knew he never made us perfect and we are not perfect but that through Jesus He perfects us

Rom.3.21 - But now God has shown us a different way of being right in his sight--not by obeying the law but by the way promised in the Scriptures long ago. -- null
Rom.3.22 - We are made right in God's sight when we trust in Jesus Christ to take away our sins. And we all can be saved in this same way, no matter who we are or what we have done.

Yet we know that a person is made right with God by faith in Jesus Christ, not by obeying the law. And we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we might be made right with God because of our faith in Christ, not because we have obeyed the law. For no one will ever be made right with God by obeying the law.” Galatians 2:16

So you believe God made Jesus? God made him another God beside him right? No sin was holding Jesus anywhere! If a man were to die for another person's sin then he should pay a commensurate price. The Jesus that died was a man not God! So a man can only die for just another man! So in the end there was no sin on Jesus. Everyone will carry their own sin, even Adam!

did I ever tell you nor did you ever read in the Bible that God created or made another God or that there is any other God besides Him? God said there is no God besides me.

Lol bro did I say Jesus was made god or a god, Jesus was made God's righteous, Jesus the manifestation of God's word, the real prophet promised by God through Moses, written by Isaiah that our sins would be put upon him because no sin can overcome the promise of God, written through David that his beloved, Jesus Christ would not see rot and indeed he did not rot but ROSE.


A resurrection you don't wish to believe, a resurrection into eternal life you have yet to accept.

God gave the law to show us our sins and imperfections, with it's daily regulation of blood sacrifices which was carried out daily a reminder of their sins but by the blood of Jesus no such requirements is needed for those who genuinely repent and turn to God to obey him and love.

Or are you saying that love is the wicked burdensome command? Are you saying you are so much in love with the world that you cannot love others as your self, that you cannot forgive or share what is in your possession with those in need?

God from the beginning has asked man to believe in Him and obey Him, why not listen to the wise man Solomon, for the sole duty of man is to obey and serve God.

Bro do not let your wrong knowledge push you astray, even illiterates who can't read are entering the kingdom of God.

Antichristian2:
Is it Christian to put dirt on people like this? I have never read in the Bible that the holy Spirit guided people to put dirt on people like this. Even Samson only killed a Lion and some people when empowered with the Holy Spirit. Na mouth you dey run here!

lol 🤣😂

Eph.4.15 but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head--Christ

truespeak:
This is Off Point.


You got the fact that Adam chose to blame God rather than ask for forgiveness so this is clearly you going off the rails.




Now you go off Point again for you said people were struggling and I pointed out that people have kept it and now you move to all have sinned which is not the issue but that the Law can be kept and has already been kept.

So no issue here!



It is immaterial what anyone said.

What is material is that saving comes before fire. So fire is for those who are condemned and that is where you find yourself hence all these!

And you have not even started.

lol not surprised Antichristian2 stopped engaging you, watch how he won't even engage me honestly, he would prefer to go back and forth with those he knows are ignorant or incorrect

Antichristian2:
1. If God is all-loving and forgiving, why didn’t He teach Adam to ask for forgiveness and forgive both himself and Eve? Since God created Adam and sin, shouldn’t He have established a system of forgiveness from the very beginning?

who told you God did not teach Adam? Did God create sin?

2. If God gave mankind laws in the Old Testament knowing that people would struggle to fully obey them, can God still be considered loving and just? Isn’t it said that God should not burden people beyond what they can bear?

Who said that God should not burden people beyond what they can bear? Which law did God give in the old Testament did he know people would struggle to obey?

3. If Jesus were to save even one person from eternal punishment in Hell, wouldn’t He need to endure an equivalent eternal punishment Himself? If He saves billions, does that mean He must spend billions of eternities in Hell? How can three days and three nights of death save billions from an eternal Hell? Where is the fairness in that?

Lol bro is just shows how powerful God made Jesus, the sins that would or should keep a man in hell for "billions of eternities" couldn't hold him for mere three days because NOTHING CAN BREAK GOD'S WORD AND PROMISE.

Anyway who told you anyone is spending eternity in hell, that's going to be destroyed?