MaxInDHouse:



Can you do better than this?

and that is insulting to you 🤨😑😏🤭and insulting you for being a JW😧😵😭🤭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Guy abeg, I don't bust laugh for where I dey.

MaxInDHouse:

Should i show you a post of yours where you insulted me for my beliefs?

this I would like to see 😏

I insult you because you're JW 😂😂😂

Oya o, show the post

MaxInDHouse:

Do you accept that people differs in beliefs and that it's wrong accusing harmless people simply because of their beliefs?
Well i remember calling JWs names because our beliefs differ from yours so if you're now claiming someone else is evil for doing the same thing then i believe you should start from own end try to be liberal we can't believe the same thing unless we feel the same way.

what nonsense are you sprouting? Calling JWs names? What is my business with JW, if people call them names what does that have to do with me 🤨

MaxInDHouse:

Are you sure you're not doing the same to the beliefs of others?

do you have any instance of me doing such?

StillDtruth:


Says the one who lied using The Holy Spirit! You have burnt yourself!

what was the lie?

What you should have said is we partake of God's promise to Abraham because of what Jesus did

Gal.3.14 that the blessing of Abraham might come upon the Gentiles in Christ Jesus, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.


Through faith, faith in Jesus, God's son, not through observing mosaic laws or scriptures or paying of tithes.

1Cor.7.19 Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters.

goodconsience77:

Gal 3:25-29

None of the verses not even the ones before it say we are in Abraham's covenant.

Gal.3.29 And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

sir Abraham's seed, the promise seed is Jesus Christ, it was prophetically representated in Genesis as Isaac, but the seed is Jesus Christ and all those IN him and FROM him, that why even in Romans we are called CO-HEIRS with Christ Jesus.

We are not part of any Abrahamic covenant.

Thank you for your response but do you know what Abraham's covenant was?

Gen.17.9 And God said to Abraham: "As for you, you shall keep My covenant, you and your descendants after you throughout their generations.

Gen.17.10 This is My covenant which you shall keep, between Me and you and your descendants after you: Every male child among you shall be circumcised;

Gen.17.11 and you shall be circumcised in the flesh of your foreskins, and it shall be a sign of the covenant between Me and you.


The covenant of circumcision, the very covenant that was debated in Acts and nullified as needed in the church by the Holy Spirit and the Apostles.

So are you part of God's church, and part of the covenant made with the blood of Jesus or you are part of Abraham's covenant, the Jews and in Judaism, the circumcision that Paul writes profits nothing.

StillDtruth:


You are just deceiving yourself and you even are not afraid of God that you brought in The Holy Spirit into your Lies and deceits, like Anny and Saphy,you are finished.

Four mentions from you, all useless. Not one is worth replying. At least the devil is crafty enough to bring out an accusation, you don't even have the reasoning to state yours.

The fear of the Lord is not being afraid of God, it is wisdom to know that the Holy Spirit has always been in it. You do not know him but I do. If I am finished I wouldn't wake up this morning to read this nonsense, I would be saved in heaven. Alas I have to suffer this nonsense.

Please do yourself a favour and don't respond like the one that was rebuked.

MaxInDHouse:


How can someone speak against the holy spirit?

Because the poster also claim he believes in the holy spirit so i wonder who exactly between the two of you is the friend of Mr holy spirit?

when someone refers to the groanings in the Holy Spirit as blebleble.

If one doesn't understand or know the source of a thing they should keep quiet.

goodconsience77:

So as a Christian u don't know we re connected to Abrahamic covenant through Jesus dead and resurrection. Pls read ur bible very well sir

I dont know that's why I am asking na, please tell me

Where is it in the bible that is the new testament?

goodconsience77:

As a Christian we are connected to a Abrahamic covenant through Jesus christ so if Abraham paid tithe to melchizedec we also pay tithe to the church which make us to covenanted with Abraham.

who taught you that?
Where did you read that from?

Veecruz:
Thrash!

Going by the report of brain and head studiers that every thing which living persons do is said to be reflected on the brain.

Whereas, before you do a thing, you would have thought about it first, and thoughting/thinking involves what we call brain.

So, i can say blebleble and that is just shit, for tongues means native natural language

Just look at you, better repent and pray paradventure God will forgive you.

Turn to God, study his word receive the Holy Spirit maybe just maybe


Instead of speaking against the holy spirit and things you know very little about.

Veecruz:


You see me talk so?

If you follow my pattern for here you go see say i dey always dey talk am here wen person dey talk true and wen person dey lie. So, you no see anything like dat.

Oga amswer micheal547 question YES or NO

Leave your self explanation, YES or NO

Veecruz:


You are the one who lies. If i truly lied, i have at least 10 fair enemies here who would quickly rush in and say i have at last lied. So, once again, you are the one lying as i have always told you, which is why you have come again like satan, to lie against me.

And yet you say you are christian and you even have a church.

Obviously a prophet from the church of satan.

lmao you have 10 fair enemies. Wait wait is that supposed to be an accomplishments or what 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.


You have always told me, would you shut up, or keep rambling like your father the liar. I can't even remember you apart from today. If you hold something against someone you either settle it or you hold unto it. That doesn't mean you go against accusing people and making for yourself enemies as badges or what.


You think about something lies come to your mind.

Imagine your conclusion that you assume somebody said they have a church so they are false prophets.


You need to repent or you perish in your sin, we all need to repent but you, I am telling you again clearly you are a false accuser, you can't deny you can only do more of it or repent of it.


You claim I am lying against you that you falsely accused me. You say with certainty what you are not sure of.

So why don't you tell people what is the lie, what you are accusing me of, what is the name of the church, where is it based, what do they do.


To show how blind you are like Jesus said, you don't even know me, yet you were claiming to remove broom from my eye. Guy repent, we are joking now, you think it's a joke. One day you will see it hopefully not on the bad side

Veecruz:


Now you are lying against The Holy Spirit and against me!

Do we not know people like you have your own churches and that you would like to be great like those churches you envy and hate ?

And the basis of your hatred for them is yout jealousy and envy of their riches because of tithes and offerings?

https://www.nairaland.com/7555546/looking-church-not-after-money#120651850

You are just deceiving yourself and now you even brought in The Holy Spirit into your Lies and deceits, like Anny and Saphy,you are finished.

Which spirit do you claim to possess?

You are instead jumping from your lies to another. Now you are assuming hatred and the basis of your lie is your other lie that you refuse to repent from 👀

Don't be afraid the Holy Spirit is always with me, I did not bring him in, he was always in, but you could not see that because you do not know him.


You can either repent or go around false accusely others baselessly.

Truth is not like it matters to you anyway, is that I don't have a church so if your basis is that because I am part of God's church that I hate and envy them. Go ahead, believe whatever you want, type whatever you want. God judges all things. 😁

And you also claim the Holy Spirit is responsible for all you have said abi. Hmmm 😏 God judges all things.

HISSCRIBE1995:
there is a certain self-acclaimed "prophet" in the south eastern part of nigeria popurlaly known as odumeje whose messages and method of miralces and healings sometimes differs from biblical perspectives.

odumeje performs or admisters healing sometimes by kicking , blowing ,or smashing the victims in a way that does not reveal the influence of the holy spirit in such actions.

he speaks greatly of himself and extol his powers which he calls names some of which can not be found in the bible .
names like :abido shaker,or sanitoria (etc) can not be found in the bible.

suprisingly,this same man as managed to establish himself as a prophet who as found aceptance among a large number of undiscerning christians.
he even has a large congregation and is sometimes prefred than some preachers who preaches undiluted word of God.

the body of christ is curently in a time where many christian no longer see the need to read the bible 4 themselves in order to discern good from evil.

take heed that no one deceive you

lol but didn't an apostle in God's general kick and punch like that 🤔 what was his name self, Smith Wigglesworth


Should the issue be the miracles or the message preached and taught?

Veecruz:


Me! I don promise to say the Truth, the whole Truth and nothing but the Truth, as i should.

but you can lie against others and falsely accuse them.

Doesn't that make you self righteous in your own eyes?

goodconsience77:

My bro we on the same page. From what have seen so far in churches many have not complied to the standard where they get there believe from.

if you are no the same page like you are saying why not edit your original post


Why haven't you answered what was answered or responded to Hebrew 7

Veecruz:


As you said bad understanding makes a person fall, thus, did God Say only the levites are to be holy?

Is priest not restricted only to the carrying out of service to God in the tebarnacle on behalf if the people?

Direct your complaints appropriately which is that pastors/priests today do not obey The Commandment and should not be the handlers of tithes.

However, we also know that your complaint is borne out of your jealosy for the pastors/priests as you wish you were in their positions rather than upon the ground of righteosness.

Which means are even more guilty than they are!

you said misunderstanding like you had understanding yet you lie and falsely accuse someone of what you are not certain of.

The words that I spoke were from the Holy Spirit and yet you claim they were from jealousy? Are you calling the Spirit of God Jealousy?


Who are you to accuse and command, if not a child of the devil who accuses the brethren from the beginning. For no child of God would read would I wrote and given such a response from the spirit of God.

Recently Benny Hinn has repented or apologised again, for his part in the false messages of prosperity and false prophecies, you can check out the videos on YouTube and Facebook.

But was it a response to Mike Winger, if you don't know him, check YouTube and how they tried taking a post down that was on Benny Hinn. Was it damaged control, or a genuine concern for his soul?


I say again because he did at first about 5 or so years ago in Nigeria, live while at Christ Embassy I was there. He said he had an encounter with the Lord after a near death experience where the Lord told him not to miss it.

Now some may claim he is doing damage control, or he isn't genuinely repented. And some say it's because he's been attacked for his misdeeds. The question is how many of us even know what genuine repentance is?

My other question is, what is Chris Oyakinlome of Christ Embassy, love world inc., take on all this. And all the other men of God who were impacted by the same ministry of Benny Hinn.

Some say he is completely false, Benny Hinn says he is not completely false because he's made some mistakes.

Those who say he is still false say he hasnt genuinely repented, but Benny says he has stopped being a part of those meetings or preaching things in line with those prosperity messages. They want Hinn to restitute, to close down his ministry, it may seem harsh to close down his ministry but restitution is needed.

We pray for more men of God to repent but genuine repentance, not the Abel Damina kind, the real kind.

Those preachers of tithe, preachers of prosperity. Do you know, what if Hinn did not repent or say anything, hope you know what he is repenting from is what men like Copeland practice.


It is well.

rexbuton:
Please this topic wants to tear the family apart.

We are doing well, each of us earns almost 85k per year, I'm in IT, she's in healthcare, and we both work full-time.
I am a Christian, I have never defaulted in tithing in the last 5 years. Not once.
She says tithing is my personal 'problem'. She uses the word problem specifically. She doesn't pay tithe.

This is the present sharing agreement, I bring 70%, she brings 30%.
This 70-30 covers the cost of living, groceries, nursery fees for our baby, and other bills.
before this sharing, we both bring equal amounts for the house mortgage and the car.
When her family needs money, she insists that we share it 50-50 based on her culture.

For my cybersecurity certifications, I pay from my less than 20%, but I have never complained. God has been faithful. My belief is that my tithe covers for the family.
The good news is that I won a large sum of money from my savings, tens of thousands of dollars. I intend to pay tithe, and channel most of the money to my professional development so I can earn more. I don't think I deserve that money I won, that money was from God.
She thinks otherwise.

What's your opinion?

God blessed you so that you can PAY him back or so that you can be a blessing.


You're carrying a burden Jesus did not give you, the question is where do you think you are aheading with that load.

chatinent:
The devil?

Wetin concern devil here?

Na human beings dey manipulate human beings.

We've been blaming the devil for so long for no reason.

the devil na general name, Jesus referred to them as children of the devil. Maybe na wetin I for write 🤔

Children of the devil dey deceive una.

Sir goodconscience77 where is thy good conscience

We read the verse chapter you said we should

Heb.7.18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness,


Sir did the author not know the profitability of tithing?

Of do you think of us as fools who do not read the bible?

Heb.7.19 For the law made nothing perfect, and now a better hope has taken its place. And that is how we draw near to God.

Come and access that hope @ the Gate of HOPE fellowship 😎

Our hope is Jesus

Heb.7.26 For such a High Priest was fitting for us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and has become higher than the heavens;

Heb.7.27 who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the people's, for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself.

He does not need your sacrifices


Sir goodconscience77 we have READ THE WHOLE OF HEBREWS 7 where is the answer to Mathew547's question.


Sir if you do not repent, hell is a free place to go.

Repent from lying against God's word. Repent for the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent.

I am part of God's kingdom of priest, with Jesus the high priest so note this

Heb.7.16 He became a priest, not by meeting the old requirement of belonging to the tribe of Levi, but by the power of a life that cannot be destroyed.


By the power of eternal life

To 28 sir

Heb.7.11 Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron? (NKJV)



Sir goodconscience77 what order of priest are ye?

Heb.7.12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. (NKJV)


Sir did the law change or not?

Paul wrote the law of faith we obey, of faith in Jesus, what law sir do you obey?

goodconscience77 sir, I will keep reading the Hebrews 7 sir

Heb.7.6 but he whose genealogy is not derived from them received tithes from Abraham and blessed him who had the promises.

Heb.7.7 And without question, the person who has the power to bless is always greater than the person who is blessed.


Heb.7.8 In the case of Jewish priests, tithes are paid to men who will die. But Melchizedek is greater than they are, because we are told that he lives on.



Jesus being Melchizedek

Sir let me read, 1Cor.16.2 On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with his income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will have to be made.

goodconsience77:

Please check: 1cor 16:2, Heb 7:1-28

Sir I am reading Hebrews but I didn't see the command to the christians Michael547 asked you for, but I saw this sir

Heb.7.5 And indeed those who are of the sons of Levi, who receive the priesthood, have a commandment to receive tithes from the people according to the law, that is, from their brethren, though they have come from the loins of Abraham;


Sir it says this priesthood was given to the sons of Levi, and they collected it from the Israelites not the church, and according to the law not according to grace and truth


Should I keep reading and quoting sir

goodconsience77:

In new testament dispensation the priests are the pastor, Bishop, the prophet, the evangelist, the apostle and teacher of his word.

Levitical priests or under the order of Melchizedek?

The devil has always been a master at manipulating people's lack of understanding, when you misunderstand God's word you will likely fall and not bear fruit.

Peter writes you are a kingdom of priests
God spoke through Moses he wanted them to be a kingdom of priests but they failed, so just one tribe with Moses became entitled and Aaron's family became priests.

But Jesus our High priest isn't under the Aaronic priesthood.

In Hebrews it is written Abraham gave tithes to Melchizedek, now Levi was in Abraham. Now Jesus priesthood is seen as that of Melchizedek, in fact they are seen as the same person. The king of righteousness, the king of peace.

Now are we Levities, no. Okay

So according to the gospel, who are we a part of, are we in Jesus or in Abraham?

Another question if we are all priests, who do we pay tithe to?

To Jesus? How do you pay tithe to Jesus?

Did Jesus ask you to pay tithe to him?

Did Melchizedek ask for tithe? Was the blessing he gave Abraham because of the tithe?

Those who paid tithe in Israel were other tribes who were not part of God's covenant of priests.

So when you pay tithe what are you telling God?

I am not part of your kingdom of priests? Or I am not in Christ Jesus, I like where I am , being in Abraham is better, being under the law is better.


Do you even realise who Malachi writes to, and whom God was talking to when he later calls them thieves. Who were the ones emptying the storehouse.


The devil is enjoying what he is doing to many of you, but those responsible will answer for it, if mercy doesn't speak.

goodconsience77:
Tithing is one of the important aspect of Christianity. This concept was derive from mosaic law by Christians and Jesus said he came to fulfil the law not to condemn the law. According to mosaic law in the Deuteronomy 26:12-15 the tithe should be shared among the following people
- The priest
- The widow
- The poor
- The Fatherless
- And the stranger
Please, bible schoolers why is it that many churches are not following this standard in sharing the tithe.

but who then does the scripture reveal are the priests

rexbuton:
Do not be deceived, the word of God cannot be broken. There are specific rules for Kingdom wealth ~ this is wealth that defies logic and explanation. Here are the keys. The points below are for children of the kingdom of God only. Thanks.

1. Seeking God. Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and his righteousness, and ALL other things shall be added unto you.
To seek God means to devote time for the study of His word, consciously walking according to his dictates, living your life as a representation of him on earth (living as the salt of the earth), and pursuing the advancement of his Kingdom via establishment of souls.
“Thou shalt remember the Lord thy God, for it is he that giveth thee power to get wealth, that he may establish the covenant with he sware unto thy fathers ‘’
God is looking for people who would use their positions to evangelise for God. There are billionaires who are sunday school teachers, who are ushers, who go out for evangelism. People who would sponsor free medical outreaches under the name of Jesus. You must live your life in a way that people are confused about if you are a professional or a pastor.

Carry this to front page will just create much noise but you have written here refers more to worldly wealth than kingdom wealth. For instance kingdom wealth is about building treasures in heaven which goes against storing up material excesses upon the earth meanwhile the poor are suffering and starving while some lavish luxury claiming it's God o. Whereas God says to them, o fool.


We don't seek God to be rich, we seek the kingdom of God to find it, to have righteousness. Do you stop seeking because your needs are met. Whereas those needs Jesus spoke about are not excesses but food, water, clothes that we need to survive.

Evangelism is not seeking the kingdom of God, it is spreading the message of God's kingdom, the gospel