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A wonderful testimony and witness. 🙏🏾

MarketDispatch:
Try that in some organizations abroad... you will explain whether that is what you were employed for....

in "some organizations" it's not a must to work under tyrants. It's like a mum who chooses her work over her children when she can get another job that affords her time with her family.

So let's not force ourselves to stay in a place that isn't conducive for our own lives because of money

There are no trousers in the list 😏 😂 you need to see what some wear as "sport wear".

Even if they say number 4, those SS girls will start wearing 3, and when they get to ss3 na 2 them go dey wear.

What I want from God? 🤔ᴴᴹ a bank balance that can shake nations or miraculous power to empty hospitals or even both, or wait a blank sheet/cheque every Saturday 😁

ceejay80s:
so U are saying Satan or lucifer will repent tomorrow and apologise to God almighty abi?
no vex , go drink 2 satchel of Blackwood ogogoro

I see that's what you are on, that's why intelligence is an August visitor to you

ceejay80s:
like it or not it's impossible.
it's an AI police

what are you on about, while it's possible that it could be AI generated. Dont American soldiers do same in their uniforms, talk about Jesus?

Newbil:
It would have been better to ask ChatGPT whether it is appropriate for a police officer to preach while wearing his official uniform, rather than referring to a random individual preaching in a police uniform.

can a police officer declare his love and propose in his uniform?

If yes

Isn't it hypocritical to condemn him if he declares his love for God in his own personal time as well, off duty, say after work

omooba969:
You can preach the gospel but not during contracted hours.

yea, exactly

Just like Jesus waited for Peter to finish fishing, we need to respect our contracts and give to "Caesar" what belongs to "him". We have many personal hours, we can learn from Daniel and Esther, so that our employers also respect us as well

People saying it's wrong for him to be wearing police uniform to preach have a point, especially since that's not the duty assigned to that uniform and hopefully it wasn't during his office hours.

Nevertheless just as teachers should not use their class room hours to preach and doctors should not miss medical treatment with faith.

You cannot stop being who you are first because of a job, he may have just preached for 19mins during his break, the teacher can tell their students about Jesus after their class period, even the doctor can talk about Jesus the healer. It doesn't take hours to share the gospel news that even babies can hear and believe

othermen:
They subtly turn service into a transaction:

"Serve God without asking for anything, and then God will help you more."

A logic that shifts love into bargaining is spiritually manipulative.

Even in Genesis 18, Abraham’s hospitality is not presented as a calculated attempt to “attract God’s help.”

He did not know he was entertaining divine messengers. The moral force of the story is that he welcomed strangers because hospitality itself was righteous.

In Hebrews 13:2: “Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by doing that some have entertained angels without knowing it.”

The emphasis is not “serve so God will reward you,” but “love the stranger because this is what righteousness looks like.”

Again, a logic that subtly turns service into a transaction or shifts love into bargaining is spiritually manipulative.

The poor believer thinks: "Perhaps God has not helped me because I have not served enough for free."

What a distortion of grace!

The poor believer should know: "I give, so God must respond"; it is no longer pure devotion but religious economics.


The example of the instrumentalists is further troubling. It shows the manipulative bandwidth of the message.

To imply that a church musician who receives payment should not expect “special blessing” suggests that accepting fair compensation reduces spiritual worth.

But Scripture says plainly in 1 Timothy 5:18: “The labourer is worthy of his wages.” Paul repeats the same principle in 1 Corinthians 9:14: “The Lord ordained that those who preach the gospel should live from the gospel.”

Payment for labour is not evidence of lesser devotion; justice and devotion are not opposites.

One may freely choose sacrifice for love of God, but leaders must not build a theology that pressures others into unpaid labour by suggesting that asking for wages forfeits divine favour.

That easily becomes spiritual coercion disguised as piety.


If a brother is an instrumentalist, singer, or any minister of skill, the church should not merely consume his gift and then preach to him about heavenly blessings.

The church should ask: how do we support this person’s life, growth, and calling?

That may mean honorarium, transport, equipment, studio support, training, or helping create opportunities.

That is far closer to Christian justice than simply saying, “if you ask for payment, don’t expect God’s blessing.”

Leaders should never weaponise that sacrifice to excuse institutional neglect.

If a pastor says to an instrumentalist or cleaner, "do not expect a special blessing from God,” the same logic should also be applied to pastors who strongly insist on tithes, offerings, first fruits, and financial giving from members as proof of faithfulness.

If unpaid service is the mark of true devotion, should that principle not first apply to those who teach it?

An instrumentalist should ideally not let money alone govern service, because ministry is not mere commerce.

But the church also must not use “ministry” as an excuse for exploitation.

The minister should serve with a willing heart, and the church should support with a willing hand. Neither should exploit the other.

Once either side turns service into control, whether by greed or by guilt, the spirit of the gospel is already being lost.

May God's love remain with the Church.

I am quoting this so that people will read it again.

Thank God this kind of response is on the first page.

yet you expect people to PAY tithe, I bet also willingly, joyfully without being threatened with hell or that they won't be blessed and wholeheartedly, obviously expecting blessings with all their hearts.

It's amusing to assume choristers who get paid won't be paid by God but pastors who claim to be Levites and collect tithes will probably still be blessed by God but they won't. So the ones David paid were not also blessed by God.

Sir Adeboye, the Paul you mentioned DID NOT EXTORT TITHES AND FIRST FRUITS FROM PEOPLE USING THE SCRIPTURES HE OBVIOUSLY KNOWS MORE THAN MOST OF US.

MrPresident1:
Islam has been the only bulwark against the complete takeover of the world by the forces of evil. Western civilization is the source of all the evil in the world and it is in an existential struggle for the soul of the world with Islam. Assuming that western civilization wins, which will never happen, then the earth is done for.

Islam will overcome and it has already overcome. New York city which is the economic financial and cultural centre of western civilization which the head is America is now a fully Islamic city and will be so forever. The light that now shins from the statue of Liberty is the light of Islam beckoning to the world to come to the knowledge of truth.

Islam is closer to what the Apostles preached than the Roman religion of Christianity

and what if Islam is just a front for the evil group that wants to take over the world?

RhemaJet7:
I gave a scripture that you may have multiple Mentors but you cannot have more than one Spiritual Father, thus:

Corinthians 4:15-17

15. Even if you had ten thousand guardians in Christ, you do not have many fathers, for in Christ Jesus I became your father through the gospel.

16. I urge you to imitate me.

17. For this reason I have sent to you Timothy, my son whom I love, who is faithful in the Lord. He will remind you of my way of life in Christ Jesus, which agrees with what I teach everywhere in every church.

Regarding the benefits, I have given enough info on that.
God back and read

grammatical not having many fathers isn't equal to saying you must have only one father.

Being a father is liken to being a founder, there can be one founder or multiple founders

We only have one spiritual father, who is God Almighty, yet we have other men who play the roles of fathers in our lives, our biological fathers inclusive.

If you are engaged you are not single, in the Bible you can't go with another man and not get stoned to death as an adulteress, because as long as you are bethroled you are married, except broken off or divorced

eagleonearth:
What are you writing? Demonic teachings are directly opposed to God's word and teachings.

edited, I meant DISOBEY IT

I agree their teachings are against God's word, but they agree that God's word is Christ and that Jesus is Lord but they don't obey his teaching.

So because he said those words it means "he has given his life to Jesus"...

Hmmm, there's a reason he already said "I know Jesus" .... Na format

Agreeing doesn't automatically translate to practicing.

Even the devils that dont disagree with God's word DISOBEY it

Some people start the day by 12am, some by 12pm and some by 6pm 😁

I too surrendered all(well most I believe) and experienced most if not all of what you have shared. 😊

Even Paul noted in 1corin7 that MARRIED women are concerned about how to please their husband but that doesn't make it a bad thing, because God said to the woman your desires will be after your husband.

Now when Jesus spoke to Martha as recorded by Luke 10, Jesus didn't correct Martha for working or preparing dinner BUT FOR WORRYING AND BEING CONCERNED about all those things.

In Matthew 6 when Jesus spoke about food, clothing and shelter, and he said DO NOT WORRY, he also stated they were important and would be given to those who seek after God.

While our first priority and concern is God's Kingdom and His word, our needs and work are important needed and should not be a cause of concern and worry to us. Simple put our hearts in heaven, our hands working.

So even though the Marys sit and listen to the gospel, it's no excuse for them not to work, help and bring what they worship the Lord Jesus with.

Marthas should also put God's word as first priority, God first then work duties later.

was there really a "marriage" between Adam and Eve or they just found each other and procreated. Not sure they are the "best" examples of when to have sex for the first time, you can as well say the first time a boy meets a girl, they should have sex the moment they are out of their homes.

Gotocourt:
Say No to bad governance, my friend in Australia said government have provided all we pray for, he found it weird his first time in church. People praying for their dogs😅😂🤣, people praying for surgery (old people).
Nothing concern youths with churches. Some interior aboriginal natives areas don't want tarred road (e shock you abi).

different people, different needs, different prayer points. Some even in Australia are praying for what to eat today

ebubeson:
Living in sin is frequently committing sin, especially deep sins e.g fornication, adultery, immoralities, rituals, visiting native doctor, occultism e.t.c

so like immortal crown asked, how is such a person the serving God "faithfully"?

Arda1000:
so they didn’t know they were stark naked until they ate the fruit?
And they saw their unclothedness every time and had no shame till they ate the fruit is that what you are saying?

The funniest is how everyone has different understanding about a particular bible verse,a whole lot of chaos in a piece of book 😂

same way many read comprehension and still fail they english exam

Arda1000:
Saw after Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit their eyes opened and they saw that they were naked.
My question is if they were naked all the while before eating the fruit,does it mean their eyes were not functioning?

eyes their means perception, insight, understanding. They had a different perception of themselves, you can see something several things and then one day you actually see it or see something in it, not because you were blind before but that day you saw it in a different way maybe based on how you felt or what was going on inside of you.

You know when you read something and your eyes open to the new information in your head.

The knowledge they had before they ate the fruit didn't make them feel ashamed but with this new knowledge they felt shame and looked for a way to deal with it by making leaves and covering their bodies. There eyes became carnal and they saw themselves not as living souls but as bodies made from dust

GanagiBitrus:
Christmas is a date set aside to mark the birth of Christ. Nothing pagan about that.

Anybody is free to celebrate that day as he chooses. You are equally free not to celebrate or mark that day.

date set by who?
Who said nobody was free to do anything before?

Christmas is a pagan and idolatrous practice, it has nothing to do with God nor the son of God. Don't come here and tell people they are free to burn incense without telling them they will die like those Aaron's sons except you want to deceive them with your false freedom.

After all are you not free to be idolatrous?

HeatSeeker:
Sacrifices are to be offered at the temple. The officiating priest is meant to collect them. Nothing is free! Stop this naivety

you are right it's just $30 and adeboye's temple is very understanding in that regard

Daejumong:
The Gospel should be free.

that your pix lol, well in their defense it's just $30 to meet G.O god, that's cheap

I wonder how much it would cost to meet the real God 😊

Kingsnairaland:
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You can not obey God laws you don't even have what it takes to accomplish this task only one man did it and still surrendered his life because of it

Let break it down

why would Jesus tell the rich young ruler he had to sell everything to attain eternal life many people teach this to lead you to believe that you gotta surrender your entire life to attain salvation

but Jesus didn't tell the rich young ruler how to be saved he showed him why he couldn't save himself Jesus gave him an impossible command on purpose Jesus was showing him and everyone that was watching that salvation cannot be earned by good works.

the young ruler asked the wrong question he said what must I do to inherit eternal life so Jesus answered him according to the logic of his own question Jesus took him down the path of works to show him where that would ends he said keep the commandments so the rich young ruler said I've done this since my youth

so Jesus said okay then sell everything and that final command wasn't a set of salvation it was the final blow to his works based mindset it exposed the one thing he could never do the thing his heart trusted more than God and Jesus did that intentionally because Jesus always raises the law to an impossible level when someone thinks salvation comes through their good behavior

just like the other examples in scripture when Jesus said cut off your hand if it causes you to sin be perfect as your father's perfect forgive others or your father won't forgive you

But notice those things jesus list are actually not new covenant salvation requirements those are the hammer of impossibility for anyone still trying to earn eternal life by good performance

the rich young ruler is one of Jesus's clearest demonstrations that if salvation depends on what you do the standard becomes so high that no one can survive it

and right after the man walks away Jesus proves the point he says with man this is impossible (.... which means using man's holiness to get salvation it actually impossible......)

but with God all things are possible (which means putting your faith in jesus then holiness of God is possible)

that's Matthew nineteen twenty-six that line is just Jesus's summary of the entire encounter what's impossible is earning eternal life through human efforts.....

. what is possible is actually seeing it as a gift of God..

Then that is how you get saved forever.....

Glory

bro this your fake Jesus na wa o, anyway THE REAL JESUS DID NOT DO THE NONSENSE you wrote here

GanagiBitrus:
Christmas is not a pagan tradition.
The date was deliberately chosen to replace the date for pagan traditions.

🤣 chosen by a pagan, well they have deliberately replaced it back to pagan tradition and idolatry.

It's not like you see symbols of Jesus all over the areas where Xmas is being celebrated

Luke.1.28 And having come in, the angel said to her, "Rejoice, highly favored one, the Lord is with you; blessed are you among women!"

Highly favored, blessed among women... Yet

She married a poor carpenter, who by the way almost divorced her after not believing her vision
She gave birth to her son where animals eat and sleep.

If you are a young lady seeking God's favor would you see this as being highly favored.

If she was "highly favored" in a new generation mindset, she should be marrying someone else richer, powerful, more secure etc. Her life and status should transform.

She could have a carriage carry her to the best room and medical Center for delivery.

But Mary humbled herself to God's will and God used a star to bring great wise men from afar to visit them bringing wonderful gifts.

God's favor rewards those who submit to His will, for He gives grace to the humble.