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femi4:
Gen 21:12

God did not address her as his wife. If God approves her as a wife, he wont tell him to chase her away

But God said to Abraham, "Be not displeased because of the boy and because of your slave woman. Whatever Sarah says to you, do as she tells you, for through Isaac shall your offspring be named.

Do you know that wife and woman in Hebrew have the same term?

Gen.21.12 But God told Abraham, "Do not be upset over the boy and your servant wife. Do just as Sarah says, for Isaac is the son through whom your descendants will be counted. (NLT)

Anyway I wouldn't even have called her his wife if you didn't bring this verse up, I wanted to ask you concerning an incident that occured with Jacob and Reuben but seeing as you have quoted God recognizing the relationship between Abraham and Hagar and much more than you had initially claimed, I rest my case, except you want to call Hagar a harlot?

DropsMic:
Please enlighten the good people of Nairaland. What is sin?

sin is unbelief as defined by Jesus recorded by John in chapter 16 verse 9, for one not to believe the Word of God is sin.

The meaning of the Hebrew word for sin is, for one to miss the mark or missing the mark or veering off course. And that's the result of disbelief.

God said don't eat this, you will die when you do.
Disbelief and he eats it and returns to the earth as a result.

He could do anything and almost everything apart from not believing God's word.

Sin is what brings you death.

FlipModeSquade:
Why don't you go right ahead and explain to us like we babies what sin means?

A Christian telling someone he's dvmb for holding an opinion is comedy central stuffs.😂

are you the picture I referred to?
If you see yourself as that, don't blame others for your own self view.

Sin is to veer off course, it could be due to ignorance or as a mistake or even as a wrong choice.

femi4:
Ignorance

Show me where God allowed Abraham to marry Hagar

Did Abraham marry Hagar or just slept with her

As advised by God or by his wife?

And what was God's command to Abraham regarding Hagar n Ishmael

Even if you want to lie, try and be creative

and also what was Hagar to Abraham?

Cum4me:
Religion is a complete brainwashed institution. Why always talking about Abraham what about my ancestors my lineage. You can not imposed a religion on me with no fact and evidence that you have see the source behind this vast universe. There's no human being that has an idea about life after death. Stop this inductrinaion.

and you know all the ideas of all humans for you to conclude that "there's no human being that has an idea about life after death"?

Yorimichi:
I really don't understand this obsession with self deprecation lol
If human nature is genuinely hardwired to sin, with zero capacity to choose otherwise, then moral responsibility shifts completely from humanity to God himself.

I mean its really clear enough but let me break it down for you

The Design Flaw: If a product is fundamentally defective from the moment it leaves the factory, the fault lies with the manufacturer, not the product.
Prior Knowledge: An omniscient Creator would have known this system was guaranteed to fail before even creating the world, yet chose to create it like that anyway.
The Illusion of Choice: If avoiding sin is as biologically impossible as an apple tree trying to grow pears, punishing people for sinning is entirely unjust.

If the system is rigged for inevitable failure from birth, the blame lands squarely on the Architect God himself.

I didn't read ALL of the OP (I don't know if any have esp those who have committed) but to point something bcuz of your post.

God didn't create humans to sin or be sinners, if not the book of Genesis wouldn't be about the fall of man but the mistake of God.

It is correct to say God didn't create a perfect being, after all only God is perfect but the reason it's call fall of man is that men fell from the original goal God had for them.

Sin doesn't mean being human, it means going off course, so saying avoiding sin is "biological impossible" is like saying avoiding an error or a mistake is impossible that would mean all the so called morals, rules and the like are foolishness since it is biologically impossible for all man not to, for example, murder the innocent.

DropsMic:
Terms and conditions apply

if you even understood what sin is or even at least know what it means, you will realize how dumb that picture you posted is

Beeron:
Eternity is a fancy word for "when time stops" Going by physics explanation; The Universe is 13.8 billion years old. This estimate comes mainly from expansion of the universe; Cosmic microwave background radiation which was observed from telescopes like NASA’s space missions.

Now

Earth is 4.54 billion years old, Scientists figured this out by: Dating ancient rocks
Studying meteorites and Using radioactive decay methods.

A man life span is relatively 100 years old.


Now the concept of "eternity" is a nonsensical discussion for mortal man because man existence is too short to observe time relative to planetary bodies not to mention the age of the universe.

So back to the question of when time stops (Eternity), the answer is eternity has always existed as we all going through time since day 1 of our birth, now time for you as an individual stops the moment you die and according to entropy, after you die, your body only lose permanent ability to transform energy but overall the energy isn't lost. So to conclude:

Enjoy your life on Earth while taking a journey through eternity this moment.

dating rocks like rocks were the first element that formed the earth. Look bro there are a number of issues recognized with "dating"

A wonderful testimony and witness. 🙏🏾

MarketDispatch:
Try that in some organizations abroad... you will explain whether that is what you were employed for....

in "some organizations" it's not a must to work under tyrants. It's like a mum who chooses her work over her children when she can get another job that affords her time with her family.

So let's not force ourselves to stay in a place that isn't conducive for our own lives because of money

There are no trousers in the list 😏 😂 you need to see what some wear as "sport wear".

Even if they say number 4, those SS girls will start wearing 3, and when they get to ss3 na 2 them go dey wear.

What I want from God? 🤔ᴴᴹ a bank balance that can shake nations or miraculous power to empty hospitals or even both, or wait a blank sheet/cheque every Saturday 😁

ceejay80s:
so U are saying Satan or lucifer will repent tomorrow and apologise to God almighty abi?
no vex , go drink 2 satchel of Blackwood ogogoro

I see that's what you are on, that's why intelligence is an August visitor to you

ceejay80s:
like it or not it's impossible.
it's an AI police

what are you on about, while it's possible that it could be AI generated. Dont American soldiers do same in their uniforms, talk about Jesus?

Newbil:
It would have been better to ask ChatGPT whether it is appropriate for a police officer to preach while wearing his official uniform, rather than referring to a random individual preaching in a police uniform.

can a police officer declare his love and propose in his uniform?

If yes

Isn't it hypocritical to condemn him if he declares his love for God in his own personal time as well, off duty, say after work

omooba969:
You can preach the gospel but not during contracted hours.

yea, exactly

Just like Jesus waited for Peter to finish fishing, we need to respect our contracts and give to "Caesar" what belongs to "him". We have many personal hours, we can learn from Daniel and Esther, so that our employers also respect us as well

People saying it's wrong for him to be wearing police uniform to preach have a point, especially since that's not the duty assigned to that uniform and hopefully it wasn't during his office hours.

Nevertheless just as teachers should not use their class room hours to preach and doctors should not miss medical treatment with faith.

You cannot stop being who you are first because of a job, he may have just preached for 19mins during his break, the teacher can tell their students about Jesus after their class period, even the doctor can talk about Jesus the healer. It doesn't take hours to share the gospel news that even babies can hear and believe

othermen:
They subtly turn service into a transaction:

"Serve God without asking for anything, and then God will help you more."

A logic that shifts love into bargaining is spiritually manipulative.

Even in Genesis 18, Abraham’s hospitality is not presented as a calculated attempt to “attract God’s help.”

He did not know he was entertaining divine messengers. The moral force of the story is that he welcomed strangers because hospitality itself was righteous.

In Hebrews 13:2: “Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by doing that some have entertained angels without knowing it.”

The emphasis is not “serve so God will reward you,” but “love the stranger because this is what righteousness looks like.”

Again, a logic that subtly turns service into a transaction or shifts love into bargaining is spiritually manipulative.

The poor believer thinks: "Perhaps God has not helped me because I have not served enough for free."

What a distortion of grace!

The poor believer should know: "I give, so God must respond"; it is no longer pure devotion but religious economics.


The example of the instrumentalists is further troubling. It shows the manipulative bandwidth of the message.

To imply that a church musician who receives payment should not expect “special blessing” suggests that accepting fair compensation reduces spiritual worth.

But Scripture says plainly in 1 Timothy 5:18: “The labourer is worthy of his wages.” Paul repeats the same principle in 1 Corinthians 9:14: “The Lord ordained that those who preach the gospel should live from the gospel.”

Payment for labour is not evidence of lesser devotion; justice and devotion are not opposites.

One may freely choose sacrifice for love of God, but leaders must not build a theology that pressures others into unpaid labour by suggesting that asking for wages forfeits divine favour.

That easily becomes spiritual coercion disguised as piety.


If a brother is an instrumentalist, singer, or any minister of skill, the church should not merely consume his gift and then preach to him about heavenly blessings.

The church should ask: how do we support this person’s life, growth, and calling?

That may mean honorarium, transport, equipment, studio support, training, or helping create opportunities.

That is far closer to Christian justice than simply saying, “if you ask for payment, don’t expect God’s blessing.”

Leaders should never weaponise that sacrifice to excuse institutional neglect.

If a pastor says to an instrumentalist or cleaner, "do not expect a special blessing from God,” the same logic should also be applied to pastors who strongly insist on tithes, offerings, first fruits, and financial giving from members as proof of faithfulness.

If unpaid service is the mark of true devotion, should that principle not first apply to those who teach it?

An instrumentalist should ideally not let money alone govern service, because ministry is not mere commerce.

But the church also must not use “ministry” as an excuse for exploitation.

The minister should serve with a willing heart, and the church should support with a willing hand. Neither should exploit the other.

Once either side turns service into control, whether by greed or by guilt, the spirit of the gospel is already being lost.

May God's love remain with the Church.

I am quoting this so that people will read it again.

Thank God this kind of response is on the first page.

yet you expect people to PAY tithe, I bet also willingly, joyfully without being threatened with hell or that they won't be blessed and wholeheartedly, obviously expecting blessings with all their hearts.

It's amusing to assume choristers who get paid won't be paid by God but pastors who claim to be Levites and collect tithes will probably still be blessed by God but they won't. So the ones David paid were not also blessed by God.

Sir Adeboye, the Paul you mentioned DID NOT EXTORT TITHES AND FIRST FRUITS FROM PEOPLE USING THE SCRIPTURES HE OBVIOUSLY KNOWS MORE THAN MOST OF US.

MrPresident1:
Islam has been the only bulwark against the complete takeover of the world by the forces of evil. Western civilization is the source of all the evil in the world and it is in an existential struggle for the soul of the world with Islam. Assuming that western civilization wins, which will never happen, then the earth is done for.

Islam will overcome and it has already overcome. New York city which is the economic financial and cultural centre of western civilization which the head is America is now a fully Islamic city and will be so forever. The light that now shins from the statue of Liberty is the light of Islam beckoning to the world to come to the knowledge of truth.

Islam is closer to what the Apostles preached than the Roman religion of Christianity

and what if Islam is just a front for the evil group that wants to take over the world?

RhemaJet7:
I gave a scripture that you may have multiple Mentors but you cannot have more than one Spiritual Father, thus:

Corinthians 4:15-17

15. Even if you had ten thousand guardians in Christ, you do not have many fathers, for in Christ Jesus I became your father through the gospel.

16. I urge you to imitate me.

17. For this reason I have sent to you Timothy, my son whom I love, who is faithful in the Lord. He will remind you of my way of life in Christ Jesus, which agrees with what I teach everywhere in every church.

Regarding the benefits, I have given enough info on that.
God back and read

grammatical not having many fathers isn't equal to saying you must have only one father.

Being a father is liken to being a founder, there can be one founder or multiple founders

We only have one spiritual father, who is God Almighty, yet we have other men who play the roles of fathers in our lives, our biological fathers inclusive.

If you are engaged you are not single, in the Bible you can't go with another man and not get stoned to death as an adulteress, because as long as you are bethroled you are married, except broken off or divorced

eagleonearth:
What are you writing? Demonic teachings are directly opposed to God's word and teachings.

edited, I meant DISOBEY IT

I agree their teachings are against God's word, but they agree that God's word is Christ and that Jesus is Lord but they don't obey his teaching.

So because he said those words it means "he has given his life to Jesus"...

Hmmm, there's a reason he already said "I know Jesus" .... Na format

Agreeing doesn't automatically translate to practicing.

Even the devils that dont disagree with God's word DISOBEY it

Some people start the day by 12am, some by 12pm and some by 6pm 😁

I too surrendered all(well most I believe) and experienced most if not all of what you have shared. 😊

Even Paul noted in 1corin7 that MARRIED women are concerned about how to please their husband but that doesn't make it a bad thing, because God said to the woman your desires will be after your husband.

Now when Jesus spoke to Martha as recorded by Luke 10, Jesus didn't correct Martha for working or preparing dinner BUT FOR WORRYING AND BEING CONCERNED about all those things.

In Matthew 6 when Jesus spoke about food, clothing and shelter, and he said DO NOT WORRY, he also stated they were important and would be given to those who seek after God.

While our first priority and concern is God's Kingdom and His word, our needs and work are important needed and should not be a cause of concern and worry to us. Simple put our hearts in heaven, our hands working.

So even though the Marys sit and listen to the gospel, it's no excuse for them not to work, help and bring what they worship the Lord Jesus with.

Marthas should also put God's word as first priority, God first then work duties later.

was there really a "marriage" between Adam and Eve or they just found each other and procreated. Not sure they are the "best" examples of when to have sex for the first time, you can as well say the first time a boy meets a girl, they should have sex the moment they are out of their homes.

Gotocourt:
Say No to bad governance, my friend in Australia said government have provided all we pray for, he found it weird his first time in church. People praying for their dogs😅😂🤣, people praying for surgery (old people).
Nothing concern youths with churches. Some interior aboriginal natives areas don't want tarred road (e shock you abi).

different people, different needs, different prayer points. Some even in Australia are praying for what to eat today

ebubeson:
Living in sin is frequently committing sin, especially deep sins e.g fornication, adultery, immoralities, rituals, visiting native doctor, occultism e.t.c

so like immortal crown asked, how is such a person the serving God "faithfully"?