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Sirseedorf:
Once a year, I have many files on my mind, so i clear the cache once a year 😉

and if they corrupt you before you get the chance to "clear the cache"?

Revolva:
I forgive but don't trust that person again

would you like God to forgive you but never trust you again?

RealityKings1:
Forgiveness belongs to God, revenge belongs to me

because you do not trust God is be a just judge

Sleekfingers:
If you do something to me intentionally, whether physically or emotionally . I don't forgive such people. Never ever .
Because it means you planned it.

But I do forgive, when something is done unintentionally or based on certain circumstances that I know is unavoidable, I will do that based on my discretion.

blessed are the merciful for they will be shown mercy

Omooba77:
How often do you forgive others?

as often as your brother asks you for forgiveness and repents from their mistake

lindqvistbergst:
More evidence against "Nigerians being Christian" the Bible welcomes debate on the religion. This topic is telling people to accept Jesus. Im asking why so im doing exactly what the religion says by questioning it.

Christianity is not Islam. The welcomes what im doing.

a relevant conversation like this should be started as a thread don't you agree?

You listed a number of important things, a lot, in one post that many may like to take time and respond and see responses to.

Christians have a believe system that's fundamental an error where they don't believe in the true Jesus that isn't God the son but God's son, and like you pointed out a number of their teachings and practices contradict what was written in the new testament.

lindqvistbergst:
The same thing ive said in other topics.

If Nigerian Christians love Jesus's then explain why they disobey him?

For lying and saying culture is mandatory.

Exodus 20:16. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
Proverbs 6:16 to 19. There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, a false witness who pours out lies and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.
Proverbs 12:22. The Lord detests lying lips, but he delights in people who are trustworthy.
Leviticus 19:11. Do not steal. Do not lie. Do not deceive one another.
Deuteronomy 4:2. Do not add to what I command you and do not subtract from it, but keep the commands of the Lord your God that I give you.
Revelation 21:8. But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.

Forcing culture/religion and not respecting free will and consent.

Philemon 1:14. But I did not want to do anything without your consent, so that any favor you do would not seem forced but would be voluntary.
2 Corinthians 9:7. Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.
1 Peter 5:2 to 3. Be shepherds of God’s flock that is under your care, watching over them, not because you must, but because you are willing, as God wants you to be, not pursuing dishonest gain, but eager to serve, not lording it over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock.
Galatians 5:1. It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.
Colossians 2:8. See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces of this world rather than on Christ.
Deuteronomy 30:19. This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live.

What the bible says about obeying the law.

Romans 13:1 to 2. Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.
Romans 13:5. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.
1 Peter 2:13 to 14. Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human authority: whether to the emperor, as the supreme authority, or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right.
Titus 3:1. Remind the people to be subject to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready to do whatever is good.

Now for "we dont sell our daughters" and then immediately "but you cannot marry her unless you pay and obey no matter if you consent to it or not"

Genesis 2:24. That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.
Matthew 19:6. So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.
1 Corinthians 7:23. You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of human beings.
1 Timothy 6:10. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.
1 Corinthians 13:5. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.

honouring your parents and how it does not mean blindly obey things you do not consent to especially in the context of how YOU CHOOSE TO START YOUR OWN MARRIAGE (weddings).

Genesis 2:24. That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.
Ephesians 6:1. Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right.
Mark 7:8. You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.
Mark 7:9. And he continued, You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions.
Matthew 19:6. So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.
1 Corinthians 7:36. If anyone is worried that he might not be acting honorably toward the virgin he is engaged to, and if his passions are too strong and he feels he ought to marry, he should do as he wants. He is not sinning. They should get married.

The Ephesians verse is the trap. It says obey them in the Lord. Meaning obedience stops the second you demand something that violates the actual text against greed and extortion. Mark 7 is Jesus directly attacking the exact thing you are doing right now as a nationality. Setting aside actual commands to observe your own made up wedding traditions. And Corinthians makes it clear the decision to marry is on the couple acting honorably toward each other not on paying off a father/family.

saying this in other topics when this should have a thread of it's own?

Lol those deeper life members that judge winners members as sinners for how the dress 😂😂😆

This is like marvel and DC doing a movie and fans waiting to know if superman or hulk is stronger 😂😆😂 🤣

kutashi:
That's a dumb question! Do you know what GOD has decided before? Nobody knows GOD' s decision and that is why you work on it and pray!

Amos.3.7 Surely the Sovereign LORD does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets. (NIV)

lordm:
Which of the gods?

Did prayer stop the Nepal flood?

who prayed? Who forsaw it?

ebubeson:
It depends.

(1) Prayer can never change the word of God.

(2) Prayer can change a decision God made, like in the Bible, God through a prophet told Hezekiah that He will die, but Hezekiah prayed and 15years was added to his years by God.

(3) God may change a decision if you pray strongly in a self-centered way outside his will, but you will face the consequences.

(4) God will not change his decision concerning certains, no matter how hard you pray.

so did God make the decision without speaking His word? Then how was the decision revealed or discovered?

Lol God won't change the decision, we instead change from being willing and obedient to becoming workers of iniquity who did not do will of the Father

H777

Jas.5.16 Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective. (NIV)

Prov.15.29 The LORD is far from the wicked but he hears the prayer of the righteous.

Hab.2.4 "See, he is puffed up; his desires are not upright- but the righteous will live by his faith - (Gal 3:11)

Rom.10.17 So faith comes by hearing [what is told], and what is heard comes by the preaching [of the message that came from the lips] of Christ (the Messiah Himself). (AMP)

So the righteous are those who live by the words of God, Christ Jesus taught us and not by their own desires nor lusts.

Jas.4.1 - What is causing the quarrels and fights among you? Isn't it the whole army of evil desires at war within you?
Jas.4.2 - You want what you don't have, so you scheme and kill to get it. You are jealous for what others have, and you can't possess it, so you fight and quarrel to take it away from them. And yet the reason you don't have what you want is that you don't ask God for it.
Jas.4.3 - And even when you do ask, you don't get it because your whole motive is wrong--you want only what will give you pleasure.
Jas.4.4 - You adulterers! Don't you realize that friendship with this world makes you an enemy of God? I say it again, that if your aim is to enjoy this world, you can't be a friend of God.
Jas.4.5 - What do you think the Scriptures mean when they say that the Holy Spirit, whom God has placed within us, jealously longs for us to be faithful?
Jas.4.6 - He gives us more and more strength to stand against such evil desires. As the Scriptures say, "God sets himself against the proud, but he shows favor to the humble."

May I also add

Jas.4.7 - So humble yourselves before God. Resist the Devil, and he will flee from you.
Jas.4.8 - Draw close to God, and God will draw close to you. Wash your hands, you sinners; purify your hearts, you hypocrites.
Jas.4.9 - Let there be tears for the wrong things you have done. Let there be sorrow and deep grief. Let there be sadness instead of laughter, and gloom instead of joy.
Jas.4.10 - When you bow down before the Lord and admit your dependence on him, he will lift you up and give you honor.

Rom.12.2 Don't copy the behavior and customs of this world, but let God transform you into a new person by changing the way you think. Then you will know what God wants you to do, and you will know how good and pleasing and perfect his will really is. (NLT)

h777:
CAN PRAYER CHANGE WHAT GOD ALMIGHTIEST HAS ALREADY DECIDED?

If GOD ALMIGHTIEST has already established His will concerning a matter, can the prayers of a man cause HIM to change that decision?

This is a question that deserves more than religious opinions. It deserves SCRIPTURE.

Some say, “Pray until GOD changes the situation.”

Others say, “Prayer does not change GOD. Prayer brings us into agreement with HIS will.”

But what does the scripture actually reveal?

Did Abraham’s prayer change GOD’s decision concerning Sodom?

NO, but his intercession provided mercy

Did Moses change GOD’s mind when he interceded for Israel?

NO, but mercy was made available so that the children lived only the adults perished

Did Hezekiah’s prayer alter what had already been spoken concerning his death?

NO, he died but mercy gave him an extension (grace period) of 15years which he misused

Did Jonah’s preaching cause Nineveh to experience a different outcome?

If God wanted to destroy them He wouldn't send, almost force Jonah to preach to them. Howbeit they wasted God's mercy and were later destroyed

And if GOD ALMIGHTIEST is omniscient, knowing the end from the beginning, what does it actually mean when scripture speaks of GOD “repenting,” “relenting,” or changing a declared course of action?

God doesn't know the end, He decides and makes the end. God has already proclaimed that the end of the wicked is destruction, He speaks the end from the beginning and His word surely comes to pass. God knows all things because He sees all, He searches the hearts of men to know what they desire and plan that's why He is all knowing and nothing can be hidden from Him. If a man doesn't change His ways, God makes a destructive tomorrow for him but if that man repents, God makes a new beginning gives him new life and a hope for eternal life

There is another question that goes even deeper:

If GOD has already determined the outcome, was the prayer itself already part of HIS divine purpose?

We pray to know God's will, we pray for God's will to be fulfilled but we also pray to ask God to grant us our desire and He doesn't when it's inline with His will for our lives. Usually God has a definite will for us and a large room where we can receive what we desire from Him within that will, that largeness also accommodates our errors and mistakes as well. That is the mercy of God and why holy men of old would act according to their desire and still not fall away from God's will even though they may get punished for their mistakes. it doesn't hinder God's will.

It is God's will for us to pray so that we continually remain in His will in all our ways.

And what about CHRIST JESUS?

When HE prayed in Gethsemane, “Not MY will, but THINE, be done,” was HE attempting to change the Father’s decision, or was HE submitting to the will that had already been established?

He understood that WITH GOD ALL THINGS ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE (GOOD ESPECIALLY) God's will was for Christ to manifest the glory of God through resurrection from the dead. God sent Jesus for us to listen to even though He knew the wicked will kill him. Jesus prayed God heard, that tortured may have lasted longer if not for the mercy of God. Jesus cried to the one who had power to deliver Him from death and God indeed rose him from death.

Jesus was submitting to the will of God, and pray helped him overcome his flesh. He told his disciples to watch and pray least they fall. Maybe if Jesus didn't pray when the Roman governor told Jesus he could free him, Jesus would not have said it is in God's hand what happens to me and may have fallen short of God's will and plan

So let us settle this properly:

Does prayer change GOD’S mind, or does prayer accomplish what GOD has already purposed through the prayers of HIS people?

No assumptions.

No denominational arguments.

No emotional conclusions.

Bring the SCRIPTURE.

CAN PRAYER CHANGE WHAT GOD ALMIGHTIEST HAS ALREADY DECIDED?

prayer reveals God's mind, and like you wrote prayer accomplish what GOD has already purposed through the prayers of HIS people

Ijeoma660:
You missed the most important spot...share the references. I dare say you must have quoted those phrases out of context.

Understand that when you quote something out of context you can easily get away with anything. Its like the verse where Jesus's advice to "agree with thine adversary quickly" (Matthew 5:25) is an urgent call for personal humility and honest restitution to resolve disputes before they escalate. It is frequently pulled out of context in four major ways:

The Traffic & Bribery Loophole: Misused to justify paying off traffic cops or corrupt officials to escape a ticket or legal penalty.

The Enabling of Abuse: Weaponized by toxic partners or leaders to silence victims by demanding immediate submission.

The Forfeiture of Legal Rights: Wrongly used to argue that Christians must completely surrender and never defend themselves against fraud.

The Theological Compromise: Misinterpreted as a command to tolerate or find a middle ground with evil or sin. True reconciliation requires swallowing your pride and making things right through honesty, not using biblical loopholes to cheat the system.

First be honest, what you initially mean is "Whatever the Holy Spirit says that is not agreeable with YOU should be tossed away..."

You asked me for a bible quote, should you not have read from James that if any lacks wisdom they should ask from God.

But you see your wisdom in your misinterpretation above is a clear example of wisdom from below. I know people misuse God's word but that isnt through the holy spirit or God's wisdom

If you indeed follow what is written has you wanted to claim, should you not have noted that Jesus did not call his people to wage some war against the wicked.

If you like when someone accusers and becomes your enemy, let them take you to court. You think it's a joke when it says the world lies in the hands of the wicked. I mean Jesus should have given you false hope like your MOGs that you will come out abi.

In that same matt 5 that worldly wisdom would see as foolish, Jesus teaches let the wicked go, dont pay them back for what they have done, in fact let them go with whatever they done to you or taken from you

I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also and if anyone would sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well.

You think Jesus is teaching you here some form of justice, some form of dont let the wicked go unpunished. I mean if you really believe there is God why would you even think that God will let the wicked go unpunished. Why would a Father let those who harm His children go. But because you do not believe nor trust in YHVH, you do not believe His son nor listen to the words of God.

Yes Jesus taught defend yourself for the purpose of running away and escaping, He also taught we shouldn't be afraid to give our lives for him, for righteousness, for truth.

It's easy to hate those who hurt, insult and persecute you, every sinner does so, but to be children of God, we are to love and let go.

Look if you have been tested and passed through this with the help of the holy spirit you would understand. Whay exactly do you think a child of God will lose on earth that they will not get in multiple folds back in the kingdom to come. We live this way because we believe.

The bribe spoken against in proverbs in that which is given to avert justice. Not that which is demanded by corrupt officers of the law who will still exort you for not doing anything wrong.

Submission is first to God, and children of God are not to be unequally yoked, why would a child of God walk together with someone who doesn't agree with love, kindness, longsuffering, peace, and the fruit of the holy spirit that pleases God? Daughters of God submit to sons of God, if you find yourself trapped and unequally yoked with a child of the devil, leave.

You may satisfy yourself but to what end. What profit is there if we gain the world but lose our souls? None.

Dtruthspeaker:
Did you not see that it was their children who entered the promise and not their parents?

Answer my own question is Jesus not God?

first properly correct your self and answer the questions genuinely

By the way, no use changing it from Christ to Jesus or are you saying Jesus is not Christ?

Ijeoma660:
Whatever the Holy Spirit says that is not agreeable with what is written should be tossed away... That would never be from the Holy Spirit

so if the Holy Spirit says something not agreeing with what man wrote what the Holy Spirit said should be tossed away?

Abeg do you know HOW MANY TIMES the SPIRIT OF GOD SPOKE AGAINST WHAT WAS WRITTEN AND SAID BY MEN

* HATE YOUR ENEMIES
* THE SONS OR PARENTS WILL SUFFER FOR WHAT THEIR PARENTS OR CHILDREN HAVE DONE
* DIVORCE HER FOR WHATEVER REASON
* GIVE TO GOD BUT DONT GIVE TO YOUR PARENTS, OR CLAIM WHAT YOU HAVE IS ALREADY GIVEN TO GOD

I can continue... Wash your hands, pray out loud etc

Dtruthspeaker:
Is Christ not God?
Secondly, you obviously did not read that God wiped them out in the wilderness leaving only 3 to see and enter the promise

wipe them out? As how? Who then did Joshua lead into Canaan land to conquer and share?

How can you ask is the anointed of God not God?

MrPresident1:
A man cannot commit adultery against a woman, it is impossible.

A man can commit adultery against a fellow man by sleeping with his neighbour's wife.

In the Bible, adultery is punishable by stoning both the male and female, but it is not physical stoning with physical stones, it is by stoning of words.

Besides, the man who commits adultery with a woman is not wise because he is trading his life and glory away to the owner of the wife, the Bible says he will die sad, miserable and empty.

If a man sleeps with a single unmarried girl, it is not adultery. When he sleeps with another man's wife, he has committed a heinous offence that would take his life

I dont even know who or why they changed the meaning of adultery

Ijeoma660:
Show biblical reference or its an human ideology. No pun itended

thank God Jesus gave his disciples the Holy Spirit to teach and not a book to read

imhere:
Tithing is biblical Malachi 3:10
You cannot separate new testament from old.
As for me, I will keep paying no matter what any mortal says. It is a delight to me. And I teach my children the blessedness of tithing

because it is in a Bible doesn't make it God's word and command to you. May God give you wisdom from above

Dtruthspeaker:
Bondage to who? Especially, when Christ Said that He did not change The Law knowing that people like you would say that He did.

See, how all of you are exactly like the Israelites in the wilderness?

Christ didn't change it because he didn't make nor give those laws. God who did, and He changed them.

Being like the Israelites in the wilderness is not a bad thing, it's because you have poor understanding of the way that you would presume such.

Make him sha defend well as him dey defend the name of Jesus 😅 more than our brother Chalobah 😇

Omoawoke:
Dem still dey talk this kind talk for 2026?

why what happened to 2026, in 50years time Christ will still be relevant while this year would be outdated

philiancoop:
Jesus said it is almost impossible for a rich man to enter heaven. Why are you working and attempting to acquire resources?

ya the rich who don't obey him

Didn't he say that after telling a rich man to go give everything to the poor and come and follow him, Jesus

If e free, why Jesus give the man that harsh condition?

jesusjnr2020:
The Only Kind Of Relationship With Jesus That Will Save Anyone

It's only a relationship in which Jesus is Lord over the person's life, decisions and actions.

The kind of relationship that the person doesn't only call Jesus Lord with the mouth and lips, but also keeps His Word and Commandments.

That's the only kind of relationship Jesus recognizes and would commit Himself to.

John 14:23 (KJV)

Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

John 14:21 (KJV)

He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

John 15:10 (KJV)

If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

Any other kind of relationship is null and void before Jesus and wouldn't be acknowledged by Him when His day comes.

God bless.

so do you believe that the love of God is conditionally and not unconditional

The condition being that you obey Him

Bayoonanuga:
Oduduwa who don’t believe in God or Jesus succeed in life

What are you saying here

people define success differently, to some having eternal life is success while for some, gaining the whole world and losing their soul is success

Wow finally a Christian post worth front page, maybe they have change the admin 😆

By the way, adultery means a wife sleeping with a man who isn't her husband and a man sleeping with a married woman, someone else's wife.

In the old testament this was a crime punishable by death, but in the new testament if your spouse doesn't forgive you, you only get a divorce approved by Jesus words in the gospel

ebubeson:
If as a Christian married man or married woman you fall into adultery, should you confess to your spouse after you have asked God for forgiveness?

When you commit adultery or have sex with someone else outside your spouse, the first thing to do is to go to God for repentance, the next thing to do is to find a way your spouse should know about it.

You can go for counselling and meet trusted elders for reconciliation. Do not keep adultery as a secret from your spouse. God wants you to let it known to your spouse. It is restitution

first God, then a trusted elder in the house of God, who will then follow you to your spouse.

Don't approach a spouse with possible bitterness and unforgiving spirit alone o

yommyuk:
Calvary Greetings Brethren !!!

Just another early morning appetizer to put us in the right spiritual frequency before worship.

The author of sin is the devil and the prime reason Jesus Christ came to earth is to destroy the devil’s work (1 John 3:. The devil’s work is the instigate division, poverty and folly among the brethren.

To take away the bond within the body of Christ, that was initiated in Acts 4:32-35.

To erase the mindset of Joseph, a Levite from Cyprus, who sold a field he owned and brought the money and put it at the apostles’ feet.
To establish the ways of Ananias and Sapphira in Acts 5.

To make sure that the spirit of the old Saul of Tarsus is at work, to persecute those who want to do the right thing (Acts 7:58b - 9:2).

May the power that possessed the hands of the disciple called Ananias, placed on Saul to be filled with the Holy Spirit, that made scales fall from Saul’s eyes and made him see the true way, possess us this morning. Amen IJCMN.

Breaking the covenant of God, by withholding tithes is unwise. This is what God accused the descendants of Jacob of doing. What belonged to God, they keep for self and they did not even know they were doing wrong.

Malachi 3:8
“Will a mere mortal rob God? Yet you rob me. “But you ask, ‘How are we robbing you?’

Jah Michael x 21

Under a curse, the descendants of Jacob placed themselves. May we never find ourselves under a curse for disobeying God. Amen IJCMN. Let us begin to do Malachi 3:10 and the promises of God in the following verses 10 – 12 shall be our portion. Amen IJCMN.

Why?

We are blessed and we think not of God in the equation? The God who gave us breath to go about our daily shores. This is robbing God. We want peace and the right things to happen in our life? Tithe to the King of righteousness and peace (MELCHIZEDEK - CHRIST) and let the Good Lord do his thing.

Hebrews 7:10
because when Melchizedek met Abraham, Levi was still in the body of his ancestor.

When you tithe, it is not only you that is tithing but we are also tithing on behalf of our future generations. Though Abraham tithed, Levi, his unborn grandchild was also tithing. This ACT produces generational blessing.

PRAYER
We will leave our homes this morning and step our feet on the holy ground of our various parishes. As we tithe and give unto the Lord, it shall be return back to us in GOOD MEASURE, pressed down, shaken and running over. Amen IJCMN

God bless Brethren

what covenant is tithing under? What priesthood and tribe was the tithe given to?

Are you under the old covenant, are you a levite or under Levites?

Can a man undo what God has done?


Heb.7.11 If perfection could have been attained through the Levitical priesthood (for on the basis of it the law was given to the people), why was there still need for another priest to come--one in the order of Melchizedek, not in the order of Aaron?

Heb.7.12 For when there is a change of the priesthood, there must also be a change of the law.

Heb.7.16 - He became a priest, not by meeting the old requirement of belonging to the tribe of Levi, but by the power of a life that cannot be destroyed.
Heb.7.18 - Yes, the old requirement about the priesthood was set aside because it was weak and useless.


Heb.8.13 When God speaks of a new covenant, it means he has made the first one obsolete. It is now out of date and ready to be put aside.

Heb.8.6 But our High Priest has been given a ministry that is far superior to the ministry of those who serve under the old laws, for he is the one who guarantees for us a better covenant with God, based on better promises.

May God deliver us from false teachings.

The essence of tithing is bondage under the laws and ordinances Christ nailed to the cross

cutecommend:
Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and personal Saviour.

You need Jesus Christ immediately. Accept Him quickly.

Jesus is king whether you or anyone accepts him or not, and those who accept the son whom God sent, shall be saved