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charlesemeka85:
JUST IN: Libyan Football Federation is panicking after being asked by CAF to submit documents relating to the cancellation of the AFCON qualifying Group D match against Nigeria

If it’s taking CAF this long to arrive at a conclusion you sure the matter go still get head so?

Odunayaw:
CAF is just a typical African government agency. Incompetent.

If they don’t deal with the Libyans I will loose interest in any future CAF organised tournaments cos it will surely happen again and many countries will start doing their own.

TheGoodJoe:
When you reach Nigeria, we will make you reject the bus we offer. You will trek to stadium.

I am done being peaceful. Full gear vawulence.

😂 wickedness pro max no mercy. Operation trek from ph to uyo.

TheGoodJoe:


What concern their father with Port Harcourt to Uyo flight ticket?

wetin concern agbero with overload or boarding pass

TheGoodJoe:

I try and try to leave Libya but they keep pulling me back.

There’s no contingency plan or charter flight to bring you back o just stay there. Better manage your data cos no wifi

TheGoodJoe:
I hope a lot of diplomatic processes takes place to quell the bad blood.

The Libyans feel hurt and in some way I sympathize with them.

I hope the NFF clears this and worked within International best practices with respect to handling foreign footballers.

If not, this incident should serve as a lesson.

same here am even shedding tears right now

Their father! 🖐️

Tessyy1701:
Looking at international best practices NFF needs to apologise to LFF for matreating their NT. The treatment is bad and nothing but bad or why will they be "checking" your visitor bags when he is not cool with it. SMH

Imagine the disrespect chai nff see your life?

TheGoodJoe:
You go no where.

lemme o

lovewins:
CAF Announces Final Shortlist For Men’s Player Of The Year Award.

1. Ademola Lookman. 🇳🇬
Nigerian & Atalanta Attacker.

2. Victor Boniface. 🇳🇬
Nigeria & Bayern Leverkusen Striker.

3. Brahim Diaz. 🇲🇦
Moroccan & Real Madrid Playmaker.

Just saw this on Twitter. How true is this story?

I don't care anymore let them dash whoever. CAF has disappointed me endangering the lives of potential APOTY winners. Until Libya is severely punished, don't even give a damn about that organization no more.

TheGoodJoe:


I hope the bolded is true but feel there are still areas that needs cleaning.

I also believe such issues should not be easily moved on from because it could reoccur in some other way. Well point noted.

wahala dey o, you wan make us sleep tire on this Libya matter

Tessyy1701:
That is certain bro. Contemplating maybe we should be giving stipend to the visiting team

yes o including hazard allowance!

Tessyy1701:
Well said. I think going forward We should have a commitee headed by TheGoodJoe to be reaching out to people sourcing for fund so as this shameful act wont repeat itself.

Pls don’t forget to add that he should also mobilise traditional dancers to go and welcome visiting teams at the airport make we have peace of mind.

JohnBullMySon:
According to NFF, they were told Uyo. Which aligns with Libyas intent to arrive at Uyo.

This is how things should flow normally

Libya FA tells NFF of Uyo arrival

NFF tells Customs, Immigration, DSS to make arrangements

Customs, Immigration, DSS tell NCAA to approve permit

somewhere in the bolded something went wrong

I see what you’re trying to do to absolve the Libyans of their travel plan into Nigeria.

The fact that previous visiting teams including from Libya had landed in Uyo safely before presupposes that the nff can never intentionally maltreat the team and it’s unfair for anyone to continue to accuse the nff of whatever befell the Libyans in Nigeria. Whatever went wrong, let the pilot who flew the Libyans into Nigeria also narrate his story. If not the Libyans have no case.

MrSamsung:
Leave that Uyo is not an international airport crap, ok.
Ghanaians have landed there, Benin Republic players have landed there, South Africans have landed there, international football clubs have landed there, even this Libya has been there before, the airport even has straight landing routes and right to Accra and Banjul.

Even if it were not international, can Nigeria not give Libya landing clearance to Uyo just to make it closer and easier for them? And Nigeria did!
Also going by your 'not international Airport' analogy, the dead airport that the Libyans re-routed Nigeria to is it international?

Just leave them with their dirty work on trying to blame the nff for the mishap in Libya. It’s indeed a shame

JohnBullMySon:
This issue can be narrowed down to three root causes

1. The Libyan team did not know that flying to Uyo would require special clearances and thus did not make any enquiries for that

2. NFF failed to ensure that the Libyan team would get clearance to land in Uyo

3. Both happened together.

Well done 👏 spokesmen for the Libyan defence team. Kudos

JohnBullMySon:
Are you saying that NFF did not know the time they were arriving cos I read somewhere here that NFF officials were at Uyo Airport?

That means the nff was in the dark about their arrival, remember they were mid air when it was gathered they were landing in ph

JohnBullMySon:
CAF Date and venue of the match has been public info for months now. What schedule does NFF need to be informed about?

Arrival schedule of the Libyans is that difficult to understand here?

JohnBullMySon:
NCAA gives two types of permit to non-scheduled flights arriving to or transiting through Nigeria. First is the overflight permit, second is the landing permit. Now for a non-scheduled flight to land in Nigeria, there are five options, Lagos, Abuja, Enugu, PH and Kano. These are the five designated points of entry aka Int'l airports approved with full services in Nigeria.

Now if for some reason you have to land at some other place besides these points of entry, you will have to get a special permit from NCAA. Before NCAA can give you that permit, you will have to write to federal agencies specifically, Immigration Service, Customs and DSS. These agencies will give you approval and confirm to NCAA that they will provide the required clearances and checks needed once you arrive. If that approval is not gotten, NCAA will not approve the request. (side note: Keyamo once noted that some people in government have been abusing this process cos this is Naija na).

Now back to the NFF story. If the charter airline that flew the libyan team could not secure a landing permit for Uyo from NCAA, it means that whoever was responsible to make those arrangements ahead of time. Simply failed to do it

Is that not why the Libya FA should have informed the nff of their schedule way ahead of time to get the landing permit for uyo ? You have finally indicted the Libyan delegation

lbrichman2:
Its merely a tame attempt at cover face
He's beginning to realize how ridiculous he's been all this while, so he dey try do clean up lowkey

And some of us are just enjoying the season film e go explain tire about contingency, protocol and charter, our new vocabs here in addition to quintessential 😂

Tessyy1701:
You are right, this insensitivity from NFF must stop. Henceforth money should be set aside for visiting team for their flight or We send a jet to convey them two days to match day.

I will even suggest a jet from the presidential fleet sef, make we pepper dem gang.

Their father!

Odunayaw:
I gasped when he started insinuating NFF and/or state governments should have foot the bill of the Libyan team from PH

Further slapping "stranded" on a people who instead of directly flying to Uyo, went to PH

Man

Na yeye sentiments and emotions

TheGoodJoe:

I don't care about emotions. I want things done right. I have never been a pleaser of persons but a pleaser for truth and right actions.

As far as I am concerned, the NFF let us down. Those guys were stranded. They likely had issues even flying out. We should have just helped them.

The NFF must review this and update their action plan when it comes to hosting teams for matches.

If they are stranded, helped them out. This should be included in the budget. There should be contingency money. If the team is stranded in Nigeria for a game, help them out.

There’s no Us here, Nff didn’t let anyone down and there can be no budget for con-men. Contingencies are for our National team. What we owe visiting teams are acommodation and logistics when they arrive where they are supposed to, if they go and land in sambisa they should cry out to their own govt to bail them out like we did in Libya with our own government.

You’re indeed emotional, period. If you have friends that are Libyans tell them to change from their evil days as we are no longer in the Stone Age.

TheGoodJoe:
Amazing. I wonder where you got that from.

This is how I started. I am just calling for a more professional touch in handling certain issues like this. Not absolving the Libyans in anyway.

We have no antecedents of being hostile to visiting teams. You just went on and on with all manner of conspiracy theories. Any Libyan on this thread will be so happy with you. Thanks for being their senior advocate. Remember to collect your fees sha.

TheGoodJoe:
Preparation procedure.

So what happened in both Nigeria and Libya, we are responsible for it. The Libyans had no responsibility. Well done 👏

Hanibal:
You have actually been sounding utterly ridiculous since last night.. ..

Even komekn has never ever descended to these levels.

TheGoodJoe, you're one of the most respected "elders" here.
Abeg just stop this sh*t, na God I take beg you.

He won’t stop until Man City wins the next game. Thank God European soccer resumes this weekend

TheGoodJoe:
It seems you don't understand we should have the details of their travel route before departure. This should have been known months ago.

Na wa.

I have been talking contingency plans and measures since yesterday.

This is clear that the Minister and most likely the NFF didn't do any research regarding this. Despite the likelihood of our players traveling to such area.

I repeat, what are they doing in those offices.

Are you blaming the nff and minister for what happened in Libya again 😂 God have mercy

TheGoodJoe:
Contrary to your opinion, it even exposes the NFF Protocol team more. As the crisis started, they should have gotten the Minister up to speed in the event of a crisis.

But, the Ministry should have these details too. So I sense lapses from both ends.

I agree, the minister diverted the Libyan plane to port harcourt

TheGoodJoe:
So the Ministry of foreign affairs did not know the government sending in the team from Libya. Well done.

Or am I still missing something?

You have left the nff to jump on the minister of foreign affairs now 😂

When it gets to Tinubu turn, let us know

lovewins:
Hi bro TheGoodJoe. This is a long response so indulge me.

No one is more critical of the NFF than folks on this space. We however know when not to unjustly apportion blame or responsibility where none exist. I probably will agree with you if you stance is how we can better beef up our processes so absolute proof of non culpability exist should issues like this occur in the future, but blaming the NFF?

1. It's easier to believe the NFF commited murder than it is to believe they were inhospitable. Historically, Nigeria is known to treat her visitors well, not even when antics was common place in African football did the NFF resort to this

2. Paradoxical, the Libyans are known for such antics. They experience of 2 Nigerian club side in the last 3 years and several other African countries are enough receipts to reach this conclusion.

3. A host isn't responsible for the visitors schedule. What a host does is request for the visitors itinerary and make plans as required. The NFF had reached out to th Libyan FA to find out what their travel plans were so they could plan effectively, but they decided to play hide and seek with it and only called when they were in the air.

4. The NFF did make arrangements to receive the Libyans and hemp with logistics. The plans however were situated in Uyo not PH. How should the NFF bare responsibility for the Libya's own mistakes here?

5. Getting flight approval for a foreign jet with the bureaucratic bottleneck that exists in Nigeria in a few hours is I'm itself a miracle. The NFF however was able to do that for Libya. That trumps reaching out to the Rivers FA like you suggested. They got then a landing permit and Libya instead decided against flying to "save cost" and insisted they'll rather go by road. How is this again the NFF's fault? The same Libya now complained about "bad road" as one of the trauma they experienced.

6. Why is it difficult for you to believe Libya refused NFF's bus gesture? Really surprised you find that strange. Historically, the north Africans don't trust other parts of Africa and will as much as possible get everything they need themselves. For example, at the AFCON in Cameroon, Morocco came with as much of the supplies they needed. They came with their own Mattress, their own security and even staffed the hotel where they stayed with Moroccans. It is typical north African behaviour

7[b]. Could it also be that Libya planned all of these just to conjure an incident to justify reciprocity? First, a lot of the pictures shared wasn't even in PH. Also they ones they even took was planned. Why sit on the floor to take a picture when the airport is full of sits if you don't have an agenda planned? Why take videos of bad roads like that was specially curated for you guys to experience? Isn't it possible that they could have intentionally flown into PH instead of Uyo, intentionally not carry the NFF along, and intentionally create a scene just to have justification for what they already had planned for Nigeria?[/b]

I personally think they NFF should work on making processes with Visitors as digital as possible. Even when calls her made, ensure correspondence happen via mail so you have a paper trail when issues like this come up. This is what I think the NFF should work on,

This is already getting too long. But you have other questions I'll respond as required.

the Libyans conned us and that's what makes me sad, our vulnerabilities as a nation have been exposed and even our fellow citizens can't believe whatever defence we come up with. Other visiting teams especially the smaller nations who know they can't compete with us will take advantage of this. And if we are not careful you see all these foreign borns we want to keep courting to play for us, just forget it. Unless CAF introduces more stringent rules this will not be the last of it. Don't be surprised if some of our best players start selecting matches they want to play for us henceforth by then if anyone complains here, I will not even say pim.

zicky:
You can imagine, we were charged x5 the price for aviation fuel and we paid. But someone want the nff to pay for their chartered flight from ph to uyo

it's the most ridiculous I have heard on this page

TheGoodJoe:
My point have not changed. I am addressing the problems raised by the Libyans. They clearly stated they were treated with disrespect and one of such was no one received them.

The NFF protocol team needs to show they took steps to receive them. These are the things that will arm the foreign affairs ministry in their diplomatic interactions.

Nff don explain tire, it's you that is still looking for what it's not lost

TheGoodJoe:
Reach out. When there was a crisis, what did they do? The Ministries of States were options. I even pointed out, at least reception. A delegate to go to Port Harcourt airport and receive them. Ah ah, small respect. It is a National team and a pride of their country.

The Sports Commissioner or Perm sec could put together a small delegation to go there. Small courtesy now.

Now this is funny, in just 3 hours? so your problem now is to go to airport and give them respect and no longer charter flights or buses, issorite. Nothing the nff will explain that will satisy you cos your mind is made up from what I see.