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annunaki2:Have you been defrauded? Are the defrauded complaining? Are You smarter than the defrauded? ![]() |
plainbibletruth:Why mention me, please? |
Junia:So, God selects what we should over in the law and what not, yet Jesus has abolished the law? |
"Seize Eternal Life" - Friday, January 27th Pastor Chris Fight the good fight of faith, LAY HOLD on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses (1 Timothy 6:12) The underlined portion of our opening scripture, as rendered in the Greek, is “epilambanomai.” It means to take a hold of something without letting go. Here, the Apostle Paul takes a step further from what we read in 1 John 5:13, which we studied in our previous lesson. He says, “Don’t just be aware that you have eternal life; seize eternal life; take possession of it.” In other words, don’t let it be a mere theoretical knowledge to you. Someone may be singing, “I’ve got the life of God in me…” but he’s not walking in the consciousness of that life, nor acting like it. Every now and then, he gripes, “You know, I’ve had this migraine headache that has been with me for fifteen years.” No one who’s taken a hold of eternal life talks like that. Eternal life is the God-life; it’s incorruptible. It can’t be tainted, defiled or corrupted by sickness, disease, failure, death or the devil. It’s the divine life. You might be praying, “Oh God, please take away this sickness from me”; that may not change anything. You might say, “But God says ‘I’ll take sickness away from among you’”; He already did that in Christ Jesus. In God’s eyes, you’re already perfect, even though you might be going through trials, pains, and difficulties. To Him, you’ve been perfected in Christ Jesus. He sees you the way He sees Jesus. In His sight, there’s nothing wrong with you. Therefore, align yourself with His thoughts and visions, through the Word, and declare, “I’m perfected in Christ Jesus; I refuse to accommodate any sickness, disease or pain in my body, because I have the life of God in me! I’ve taken hold of eternal life.” You’re an associate of the God-kind; the life and nature of God have been imparted into your spirit. Now that you’re born again, you have eternal life in you. You’re not going to have it after you’ve prayed, and struggled to please God. It’s in your spirit now! Live in this consciousness and stand up to who you are in Christ. Confession... I’ve taken a hold of eternal life. Therefore, it doesn’t matter the trials, pains, and difficulties in the world, I’m unperturbed because I live in, and by, the Word of God. My life is the revelation of the graces and realities of the Word! I live triumphantly over sickness, disease, Satan, and the systems of this world, in Jesus’ Name. Amen. Further Study: 1 John 1:1-2 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; 2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen [it], and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us 1 John 5:11-13 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12 He that hath the Son hath life; [and] he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. 13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. Daily Scripture Reading 1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Matthew 19:1-15, Exodus 13-14 2-Year Bible Reading Plan: Matthew 10:12-22, Genesis 27 |
BERNIMOORE:Figure it out |
Cool... I'm very very impressed |
BERNIMOORE:See why I don't want to discuss with you? You DO NOT have the faintest idea of this topic, why should I indulge you any further? |
MuttleyLaff:I don laugh at tire.. ![]() |
[quote author=Junia post=53110946] Hebrews 7:12Where did he teach about child dedication and harvest thanksgiving? Don't we practice them today? Are we sinning then, just because Jesus Didn't teach on them? That is where principle come in. Where did Paul teach about tithe ??Lol... Do you want me to list things he didn't teach about? Abraham didn't tithe with his possesionsSo? What did Jacob tithe with? Journey booty? Because he didn't have much of that, he didn't continue tithing.You're lying now. Go and rescue people and tithe with what you get okayPrayer at 12noon and 10pm (Local/GMT) - Wed Jan 25 In today's Rhapsody, learn more about your inheritance in Christ and never accept poverty. You can download your copy from http://rhapsodyofrealities.org Ephesians 6:10-13 says: "Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand". For 15min at 12noon and 10pm, we'll pray fervently in the spirit for Pastors and ministers of the Gospel around the world; that the Lord would grant them more grace and supply of the spirit for the work of the ministry. Pray also in the light of this scripture for one another and for those facing health challenges, that they may be strengthened with might, by the Spirit, the Lord perfecting all that concerns them, to the glory of His Name. Amen. Remember to attend the mid week service today in church, onsite or online. God bless you. You're sooooooo lying |
[quote author=Junia post=53110946] Hebrews 7:12Where did he teach about child dedication and harvest thanksgiving? Don't we practice them today? Are we sinning then, just because Jesus Didn't teach on them? That is where principle come in. Where did Paul teach about tithe ??Lol... Do you want me to list things he didn't teach about? Abraham didn't tithe with his possesionsSo? What did Jacob tithe with? Journey booty? Because he didn't have much of that, he didn't continue tithing.You're lying now. Go and rescue people and tithe with what you get okayYou're sooooooo lying |
Junia:How conditional? He was striking a deal with God? What conditions exactly? Again this is one time occurrence, it is never mentioned again in Jacob’s life.Any proof? If you don't have any.. Please shut it. There was no Levitical priesthood or tabernacle that would be necessary for a tithe. ![]() Was Abraham and Jacob under the law? Just because a tenth is mentioned does not mean it is a tithe.Please supply a better term. Remember, it wasn't a coincidence that it was the tenth part. If i give 10% of my income to a poor man does it mean i'm tithing.Taking a cue from other tithers in the Bible... Did they give it to the poor? We're the Levites poor folks? Was Melchizedek poor? Tithing is something you do regularly not on a conditional basis, not once in a lifetime nor once a year.Make up your mind. Is tithing obsolete? If yes, fine.. Of no, fine. Don't sit on the fence. God had Moses introduce the tithe because of the priesthood and the sacrificial system and Israel being a theocracy.Do you want to use this reason and open up a thread and invite me in? Your reason is very off. If tithing was before the Law then it should apply apart from the Law.Lol... How? All that was before the law was incorporated into the law. For example, there was shedding of blood for the atonement of Adam's sin... Yeah, an animal surely died. Question is, why wasn't this applied apart from the law? The Bible says that tithing was of the Law 400 years after Abraham . The Bible does not say that Abraham was commanded to give a tithe; the Bible does not say that Jacob was commanded to give a tithe. In fact, before Moses and the Law, the Bible does not record anyone giving tithes to God as a yearly, Monthly or weekly practice. There is No such command. ![]() So, your line of debate Now is one was commanded and the other wasn't? Lol Did the Bible say Abraham was commanded to obey God? But he did. Did God say Abel was commanded to give his firstfruits? But he did... Etc. You need understand why the law was introduced in the first place... Let me ask, why was the law introduced sef? If Christians are to be practicing tithing today because of Abraham then we are also obligated to keep everything that occurred before the law! CircumcisionAre you not circumcised? Won't you circumcise your son? Tell me one act of worship before the law that has been discarded... Just one. Abraham and Jacob were circumcisedExactly. The same observance applied to tithing should bePlease, don't misquote Paul.... Emmm, you're circumcised, that means you're obeying the law? Paul was making a teaching because the Jews claimed the gentiles who weren't part of the covenant cannot attain salvation... That was emphasis on works. Do not come and mislead other o. If you want to tithe, thrn circumcise as well, offer burnt offerings as well because they all existed before the law ![]() This fella seems irredeemably confused. Galatians 3:24-25We're not discussing the law... |
plainbibletruth:Because it was paid by our Father of faith to an eternal priesthood which order Jesus is of today. ![]() |
Junia:A priest FOREVER... See why tithing is an eternal principle? Do we have priests now ??No wa o All new creations are priests na!... So, if you like go and receive tithes, points is, tithing is very operational today. And what was given to him was from war booty not personal income and it was only onceDo you have proof that it was once? Does the fact that it was recorded once a proof of he did it once? How about his prayer recorded once? Does that mean he prayed once? |
Junia:So now, I can teach the law (by your wrong assumption that it's the law), abi? ![]() To admonish others to be faithful to God as the Israelites were at a period of timeSo, now that the priesthood is in Judah, can you tell me what order of priesthood is Jesus of, and why? You can't practise tithing in Christianity even if you were allowed to follow the law because only Levites can receive it. Why ?? because they had no inheritance among the IsraelitesBut seriously, wait first. What part of tithing was before the law don't you understand? Can you explain how Jacob got to know about tithing? Thanks |
petra1:Don't mind these learners. Too many loop holes in their ideology. That's what they told the guy to insist. Tithing is only mentioned in the law . Just as serving God is mentioned in the law .The guy swallowed it hook line and sinker especially when I showed him that levi paid tithes to melchizedek through Abraham. Sir, e fi trash le fun LAWMA jare ![]() |
petra1:They said offering there is sacrifices and such and the ones taken in church is called a collection. I took them on an exposè on the greek word used and that of burnt offering and that of collections. Hilarious folks They tried to nullify Abraham tithe and label it war booty what a desecration or a Gods word.They started asking how many times the man paid tithes... I said once it was recorded but that doesn't mean it was once... Then I asked how many times did Abraham pray? I told then I only found one place he did, does that then mean he wasn't a prayer man considering the faith he demonstrated? These fellas accused me of deviating ![]() And the reason is just to make tithing only an institution under the law. So as soon as they killed Abraham evidence and label it war booty they only have the record in the law to contend with.Exactly, just that these guys are doing a poor job at it. I mean, why say Jesus called tithing a law when Jesus himself knew that tithing was done long before moses was born? They want to now box God into law . They forgot Jacob tithing record. So what will they label that now? Journey booty?Abi o ![]() Nice one. I asked one . If anything mentioned in the law is wrong . What about the law against incest and gay? He said God hates it . But that's still law you condemn . He said it's before the law God destroyed sodom and Gomorrah.See confusion na... ![]() . The I said ,beautiful tithing was instituted before the law also . And the fact that the law mentioned it doesn't nullify it just as God hated homosexuality before the law.Exactly.. Same logic, but these fellas won't admit their logic. Too much double standards. ![]() And the fact that it was mentioned in the law doesn't change Gods mind about it . After the law dispensation. These are principle . Law or without the law .Gbam... But they also said "... we can quote them to teach but we are not under those law ... " ![]() The confusion is monumental |
For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich (2 Corinthians 8:9). After you’re born again, poverty becomes completely unacceptable in your life. I know there’re people who believe Christians ought to be poor, but that’s due to their lack of understanding of the Scriptures. Poverty is not the absence of money, or other required necessities of life; it’s actually the disabling of a man’s mental prowess. It’s that state where a person’s mind shuts down, and that person believes that he or she can’t do anything to change his state. But that’s not the case with the one who’s born again and lives by the Word; it’s impossible for such a person to walk in penury. The Christian is an heir of God, and a joint-heir with Christ. All the wealth in this world belongs to you if you’re born again. Once you accept this truth in your spirit, and allow it dominate your thinking, it’ll give you a new mind-set. It’ll be impossible for you to walk in lack. The Bible says Jesus became poor so that we, through His poverty, might become rich (2 Corinthians 8:9). He took upon Himself, not only the sins of the world, but also the effects of sin, one of which is poverty. This is the reason every Christian must reject poverty. Nevertheless, poverty by choice, or deprivation by persecution is acceptable. A Christian may walk poor, and live poor because of ignorance, but he’s not poor, for he actually has an inheritance in Christ. 1 Corinthians 3:21 says, “…all things are yours.”Therefore, refuse and reject the down life; don’t live as a victim. Get to the Word and become knowledgeable about your untold wealth in Christ. God said, “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge…” (Hosea 4:6). Refuse to walk in ignorance, but in the knowledge of your inheritance in Christ. |
Poverty Is Not For you - Wednesday, January 25th . Pastor Chris For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich (2 Corinthians 8:9). After you’re born again, poverty becomes completely unacceptable in your life. I know there’re people who believe Christians ought to be poor, but that’s due to their lack of understanding of the Scriptures. Poverty is not the absence of money, or other required necessities of life; it’s actually the disabling of a man’s mental prowess. It’s that state where a person’s mind shuts down, and that person believes that he or she can’t do anything to change his state. But that’s not the case with the one who’s born again and lives by the Word; it’s impossible for such a person to walk in penury. The Christian is an heir of God, and a joint-heir with Christ. All the wealth in this world belongs to you if you’re born again. Once you accept this truth in your spirit, and allow it dominate your thinking, it’ll give you a new mind-set. It’ll be impossible for you to walk in lack. The Bible says Jesus became poor so that we, through His poverty, might become rich (2 Corinthians 8:9). He took upon Himself, not only the sins of the world, but also the effects of sin, one of which is poverty. This is the reason every Christian must reject poverty. Nevertheless, poverty by choice, or deprivation by persecution is acceptable. A Christian may walk poor, and live poor because of ignorance, but he’s not poor, for he actually has an inheritance in Christ. 1 Corinthians 3:21 says, “…all things are yours.”Therefore, refuse and reject the down life; don’t live as a victim. Get to the Word and become knowledgeable about your untold wealth in Christ. God said, “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge…” (Hosea 4:6). Refuse to walk in ignorance, but in the knowledge of your inheritance in Christ. Prayer... Dear Father, you’re gracious and kind. I thank you for making me a joint-heir with Christ; the world belongs to me. All things are mine, and nothing good is withheld from me. I dwell in the realm of superabundance, where I’m graciously supplied with every good thing. My life is a manifestation of your love and grace; thank you, Lord, in Jesus’ Name. Amen. Further Study: 2 Peter 1:2-3 Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord, 3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that [pertain] unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: Psalm 23:1-2 The LORD [is] my shepherd; I shall not want. 2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. 2 Corinthians 8:9. For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich. Daily Scripture Reading 1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Matthew 17:14-18:14, Exodus 8-9 2-Year Bible Reading Plan: Matthew 9:27-38, Genesis 25 |
petra1:No o... These folks said Jesus called tithing a law.. And the law has been discarded, but " we can quote them to teach but we are not under those law .." ![]() Have you ever seen such confusion since tower of babel? |
BERNIMOORE:Please provide the links of such' engagement' here... Or I'd brand you a petty liar. Some of us are actually busy, we have jobs and our lives do not revolve around nairaland... I can't say same about you, but if you don't see me here replying messages, know I'm busy being productive. Thanks |
Junia:What was your conclusion from it? Calm down.. I'd answer you. ![]() |
Junia: ![]() Assuming that tithing is under the law, from the above bold, why can't I teach tithing since it doesn't mean I'm under that law? ![]() Keep deceiving yourself. |
Peacefullove:I was gonna reply you, but from the colored , I know you're a baby! Not worth a try. Cheers |
Junia:Didn't you read the latter part of my post? |
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Be Voracious For The Word - Tuesday, January 24th Pastor Chris And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified (Acts 20:32). The Word of God gives you much more than a moral code of conduct; it builds, lifts, transforms you and catapults you to your inheritance and destiny in Christ. Proverbs 11:9 tells us that through knowledge—revelation knowledge of God’s Word—shall the just be delivered into their inheritance. Thus, you have to know the Word, store it in you, and consciously put it to work in your life. That’s your guarantee of a life of ever-increasing glory. The Bible says, “...All things are yours” (1 Corinthians 3:21); that means there’s nothing you require today that hasn’t already been made available to you by God through the Word. This is one reason you must meditate on the Word. Become voracious in your passion, hunger, and appetite for the Word. There’s no way of appropriating the blessings of God to your life without the accurate knowledge of the Word. We triumph by the Word. We reign in life through the Word. We win, excel, and prevail over the challenges of life through, and with the Word. The more you study and meditate on the Word, the more inspired and excited you get about the life in Christ. The knowledge of God’s Word gives you an undeniable conviction about the transcendent life of victory, righteousness, success, and dominion that Christ has brought to us! Your victory is in the Word of God, so study it to know it, for only through the knowledge will you discover and enjoy your glorious inheritance in Christ. Study the Word for what it does in your spirit. The Word in you goes into your spirit, soul, and body, and becomes part of your being; making you what it talks about. When you ingest and digest the Word, it becomes one with your spirit, thereby enhancing and improving the quality of your personality. Bombard your mind with the Word of God, until it completely inundates your thinking, and your life will go in one direction only: upward and forward! Prayer... Dear Father, as I study and meditate on the Word today, my heart receives it with joy, faith, and meekness, knowing that my life is being built and my destiny shaped in line with your perfect will for me. My life is for your glory and beauty because of the power and influence of your Word in my spirit, in Jesus’ Name. Amen. Further Study: Corinthians 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, [even] as by the Spirit of the Lord. 1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. Daily Scripture Reading 1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Matthew 16:13-17:13, Exodus 6-7 2-Year Bible Reading Plan: Matthew 9:14-26, Genesis 24 |
BERNIMOORE:If you were smart you'd see my point. How many times Abraham paid tithes? It was recorded once... Doesn't mean it was the only time. Then I asked, how many times Abraham prayed? Aside Gen 20:17 and maybe one other place (not exactly a prayer sef), I haven't seen or read him pray. If then his prayer was once recorded, does it mean he wasn't a man of prayer, considering the life he lived and faith he demonstrated? Point is the frequency is immaterial, and asking about spoils of war.. Did Jacob go to war before giving tithes? See, I've had several tithe discussions here and you these current crop are learners... Those before you have failed woefully... Ever wondered why tithe threads don't frequent the section unlike 5years ago? Ever wondered why others don't bother coming here to join band wagons with y'all? I'd tell you what, only a negligible percentage of Christians on NL religion section don't pay tithes and that percentage includes atheists, pagans, and their likes and then your type. If you don't want to pay tithe, fine... Please don't disturb those doing, you lot aren't smarter than the rest paying tithes... It is not Compulsory, just like nothing in Christ is "by force" Cheers. |
Junia:Lol I have asked you tire ... Is it that Jesus Didn't know that tithing was before the law of Moses or you're being ignorant? You simply said "Jesus said it was the law" ![]() I now asked if tithing is the law and has being discarded then faith, justice and mercy too are discarded since they are weightier matters of the law (since you claim Jesus said it's the law) You said "am I the one that said it?" ![]() Keep deceiving yourself. |
Junia:So, Paul that now quoted one of the 10commandments nko? Ephesians 6:1-2...he must have 'selected' it and discarded the rest? |
Junia:Spread the word ![]() |
Peacefullove:If you don't get the logic as it relates to your question, then, sorry.. I can't help you. |
Receive - Monday, January 23rd . Pastor Chris For if by one man’s offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ) (Romans 5:17). In the realms of the Spirit, there’re different kinds of laws; we have the law of contact, the law of faith, and then we have the law of receiving, which is the focal point of today’s discussion. Our opening verse says, “For if by one man’s offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness….” The word “receive” here is the Greek “lambano.” It’s not the same as being stationary somewhere and expecting what you want to just land in your hand; no. That word is a carefully picked word. It’s a bit blind to the English connotation of the word “receive.” “Lambano” is an action word; it means “to take,” “to catch” and make personal to you. It means to get a hold of something and make it yours. We minister to people sometimes and we say, “Take it”; that’s what it is. It’s the keyword of the Spirit for “receive.” The above verse says, “They which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.” It’s saying those who get a hold of, catch, or “lambano” abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness are the ones that’ll reign in life. This means you’re looking out for it to get a hold of it; you’re going for it, for the purpose of using it. So, you see, it’s not just about God giving you something; He’s already given you everything (1 Corinthians 3:21). You’re the one to receive! All things have been made available for you to enjoy. Take a hold of eternal life! Take a hold of your abundant life in Christ! Don’t wait anymore. Take possession of your inheritance in Christ, through persistent and audacious faith-proclamations. Confession... I have a supernatural heritage in Christ, possessions of great and inestimable value! Therefore, I declare that I walk in superabundance today, for God has prepared great and unquantifiable blessings for me to take care of all my needs spiritually, financially, materially, and emotionally! All that belongs to me are being unveiled by the revelation of God’s Word, and as I see, I possess! Hallelujah! Further Study: Corinthians 2:12-13 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. Matthew 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: Daily Scripture Reading 1-Year Bible Reading Plan:* Matthew 15:29-16:12, Exodus 3-5 2-Year Bible Reading Plan:* Matthew 9:1-13, Genesis 23 |
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