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hopefulLandlord:
even they know the blood of their fictional Jesus can't protect them against shotgun bullet to the head

fictional Jesus powers can only work against fictional attacks like "Spiritual arrows of the enemy", "Spiritual poisons", " Enemies of my father's house", "Enemies from my father's house", " Spiritual bullets" etc

I. Knew you'd bring your atheism here.

And then try to smear Jesus. It's boring you know.!

peacesamuel94:
Caution is not fear.

Tell them

Ranchhoddas:
Of what use then is divine protection?

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When you attempt to use Peter's cutting off of someone's ear as justification, why do you always leave out the fact that Jesus rebuked him and said the could call down legions of angels to His rescue if He so desired?

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This cherry-picking no good o!

Why did God give you brains?

petra1:
SECURITY IS COMMON SENSE

There had been so much criticism about security of MOGs as regards security. As much as it's carnal to be parading armed men Just for swag . However . Security is common sense for anyone who sense a threat to life and property. Either you are MOG Or church members . Anyone who sense danger around him should take precautionary measures. There is God part in protection and there is mans part .

Many critics use Jesus and the apostles as example but how much do you know about the measures they took to protect themselves ?

Because of the constant threat and attempts on Jesus , His disciples carried arms . Where did Peter get his sword from .

John 18:10 (KJV)
10 Then Simon Peter having a sword drew it, and smote the high priest's servant, and cut off his right ear. The servant's name was Malchus.


Jesus himself had encouraged them to get swords for protection.

Luke 22:36 (KJV)
. . . and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

Luke 22:38 (KJV)
38 And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.

John 10:39
Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand,

There had been other precautionary measure Jesus took. Like avoiding dangerous places.
John 7:1 (AMPC)
1 AFTER THIS, Jesus went from place to place in Galilee, for He would not travel in Judea because the Jews were seeking to kill Him.

Other times Jesus also had to escape or hid from assailants

John 8:59
Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

It's common sense to protect yourself in the face of threat . When your time is up and your MINISTRY is done then you can offer yourself like paul and Jesus. But remember paul once hid in a basket for safety

PAUL

Acts 9:24-25 (KJV)
24 But their laying await was known of Saul. And they watched the gates day and night to kill him. 25 Then the disciples took him by night, and let him down by the wall in a basket.

Acts 9:24-25
But their laying await was known of Saul. And they watched the gates day and night to kill him. Then the disciples took him by night, and let him down by the wall in a basket.

But when they finished their ministry they yielded themselves.

John 10:17-18
Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.


2 Timothy 4:6-8
For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand. I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith: Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing

I've always maintained that Peter was Jesus' CSO, no wonder when Jesus was speaking of His death, Peter made bold that it'd not happen while he was present.

Alot of people think Jesus and His disciples were some fragile looking slim guys, on the contrary.. Imagine a man who singlehandedly chased folks outta the temple (Bible recorded He did it alone).. Imagine his stature and audacity.

But, many a time, Jesus' life had been threatened and He escaped death many a time too. I once asked folks why he was with Peter, James and John always... Folks said because they are the most spiritual... But I doubt. Considering these folks past job and how energetic it was, one could be imagine their stature.

But, today, alot of Christians believe MOGs should not have security details, why? Because He's a preacher and it'd be 'pride'. They'd say Jesus and Paul needn't one... Etc


I wonder if thieves and criminals have a brigade of security details, even in their dubious dealings, why can't an honest MOG have one?

Then live to hear "Militants kidnapped the Regional Pastor of RCCG" or read that "extremists beat up a Bishop Oyedepo" or "Pastor Chris was mobbed by crowd during a crusade and bodily harm and personal effects stolen."

They'd say "Don't they believe God can save them?".. Like you said, it's common sense, but some people would rather prefer MoGs to be without security details

Ah.... I was thinking in same line. I have some pointers too.

Let me get to my desk first

LambanoPeace:
Answer yes or no please. I'm very interested in this answer too. Thank you.

Epp me ask him to be plain... I tire for this stunt.

Receive Your Supply For Today - Tuesday, January 31st

Pastor Chris

Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits, even the God of our salvation. Selah (Psalm 68:19).

In Matthew Chapter 6, Jesus gave His disciples a format on how to pray, and in verse 11, He said, “Give us this day our daily bread.” When He taught them this format of prayer, He hadn’t died on the cross; the New Testament hadn’t started, because a will doesn’t come into existence until the death of the testator. After the death of Jesus Christ, the New Testament was sealed; meaningful that every provision from His will had become legal; you could now take advantage of it.

Jesus’ teaching in that prayer does suggest that every day, in the mind of God, there’s a blessing for you; there’s more than enough supply for you every day. Ever since you were born again and you received Christ, there’s been a daily supply for you; that’s what “daily bread” means; the Master wasn’t talking about a loaf of bread.

That means you probably have a pile of unused supplies with God; supplies and benefits from God that you never took advantage of. Read our opening verse again; it says He daily loads us with benefits; meaning that aside from the supply, there’re also benefits; extras. God isn’t just into provision, He’s into supply as well; He’s not just providing what you need, He supplies them, which means there’s a constant flow, and the reason for the flow is for you to have more than enough for yourself, and to help others.

There’s an accumulation of wealth for you, and just because you didn’t know doesn’t mean you have forfeited it. So, every day in God’s plan—in His structure of things—you have a supply, an amount set aside for you to spend and use. Make a demand for it. Receive your supply for today. Hallelujah!


Prayer...
Dear Father, I thank you for the supply-system you’ve set in motion on my behalf; I can never be broke; you’ve blessed me lavishly and supplied all my needs. My heart’s desires are granted me as I delight myself in you. Even now, I receive my supply for today; thank you, blessed Lord, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study:

1 Corinthians 3:21
Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;

Philippians 4:19
But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.

1 Timothy 6:17
Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;


Daily Scripture Reading

1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Matthew 21:33-22:1-14, Exodus 20-21

2-Year Bible Reading Plan: Matthew 11:11-20, Genesis 31

petra1:
I remember the story of the young man who thought he killed Archilles and was celebrating. Until Archilles showed up . . . . It became wo mi 'n wo é.

Yesso.. Me too was surprised.

See him forming jagaban na

petra1:


By the way when I changed my moniker . It wasn't secret . I opened a thread on it.

Empty barrel. Abeg , Next person pls?

Don't mind these newbies. See why I don't hesitate to set them straight?



Unlike them who dubiously hide behind new monikers and feel great about themselves.

You know why they keep saying we're teammates (remember we were once accused of being same), it's because we are the only tithers willing to waste time with these folks.

Haven't you seen we've been repeating ourselves and they keep changing posts

1. Tithe is a law
2. Tithing was of war spoils, did you go to war?
3. Tithers will go to hell
4. Melchizedek did this, Jesus said that
5. Jacob' tithing was....
6. Tithing isn't monetary
7. Etc

Leave this thread now and watch it die faster than any possible thing

petra1:
Take am easy bro

These guys wan use me shine na, I had to call this one to order.

brocab:
Read the truth Mr Gombs hell is standing at your door-just waiting for you to enter in-your message about tithing does not obey the word of God..
"Yes" watch and learn what the prophetess said Mr Gombs- All tithers after money Mammon more then God will not see the kingdom of God.
Mr Gombs {Mammon} belongs to the world.. And the Word Of God belongs to God.
{Mark 12:16} Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar-and give to God what belongs to God.
You can't worship both Mr Gombs-one or the other?
And you Mr Gombs have proven over and over which of them you worship more then the other. {Mammon}
{John 17:-15-17} I do not pray that you should take them out of this world, but that you should keep them from the evil one, they are not of the world, even that I am not of this world. Sanctify them by your truth,. Your Word Of Truth..

Sir, I need a yes or no.

Am I going to hell because I tithed?

brocab:
I believe in the truth, and tithing isn't the truth..
How much money is enough Mr Gombs?
{John 21:15-17} And when they had finished breakfast Jesus said to Simon Peter-Simon son of Jonah, do you love Me more then these?
Peter Yes Lord you know that I love you.
Jesus said "Feed my lambs"
Jesus asked Him the second time do you Love Me?
Peter said "Yes Lord" you know that I love you.
Jesus said "Tend My Sheep"
And the third time Jesus ask him, do you love Me?
Peter was grieved the third time and said you know all things and you know I love you.
Jesus said "Feed My Sheep"
Jesus said-Tend and Feed My sheep with the Word of God "Mr Gombs" And tithing money and enjoying the benefits from it, isn't the Word of God "Mr Gombs"
Watch it again Mr Gombs this time listen-Glenda Jackson had seen her vision in Hell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omfir6TJl58

So, I'm going to hell for tithing, abi?

openmine:
Full gospel and tithe?
Who dash U full gospel?
Am just wondering wat U will be dishing out 2 those helpless congregation.... too bad most have a bible but prefer Ur words 2 d bible....how unfortunate!

Brothers and sisters.. How can any sane Christian type this.


Why call someone's dad or mum or son or daughter or uncle, grandparents etc "hopeless" just because you don't like tithing?

And you're the Christian I should continue discussions with? See Candour, we've been on different pages with regards tithing for years... And I'm yet to see him insult vaguely and maliciously my person or much more other Christians just because they tithe.

That's why I have so much respect for him, not you all who keep wanting to be relevant I have the religious section.

Sir, I'm done with you.

Cheers

openmine:
Ohh yes...Gombs is ur savior any time U r lost or Speechless...You call him to backup with "funny memes" and a "like" ..Or maybe he sud be the one to reply me since U dont even know how to prove Ur tithe beliefs...but seriously,How can a pastor who preaches tithe cannot defend his tithe beliefs from the bible...Astonishing

It's one thing to lie it's another thing entirely to be a liar. Your assumptions are a reflection of who you are and what you do. Not everyone is twisted like you na.

I know I've butt hurt you so many times on nairaland till you got this new moniker, and my similar stance with Petra1 has been killing you adequately... But that's not a reason to slander me and another with unfounded accusations.

I've been on many tithe debate threads before you decided to get an Internet device, do well to carefully throw your tantrums elsewhere.

Thanks

Proclaim The Word To Everything Around You - Monday, January 30th .

Pastor Chris

And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature (Mark 16:15).

Jesus didn’t send us to preach the Gospel to human beings only; He said, “Preach the Gospel to every creature.” That’s quite instructive. It means you can proclaim the Word to anything and everything around you, because everything in life has intelligence. Everything God made can hear and recognise His voice. Jesus proved this true. Once, He spoke to a tree and it withered from its roots (Mark 11:12-14, 20-21).

Perhaps your car has been grounded; if you’d talk to it; if you’d release words of power to that car, before long, it’ll be back on the road. Maybe your house and everything in it is getting old, you can call forth a renewal. Declare, “House, in the Name of Jesus, you’re renewed.” Walk through the rooms and prophesy that new furniture, decorative items, electronics, etc., are coming in the Name of Jesus!

Many haven’t come to that point of prophesying and speaking the Word to everything around them; so they complain. Don’t complain; proclaim the Word. Maybe you only have one pair of shoes; instead of complaining to God about it, declare, “I invoke the blessing of God on this shoe, to bring forth a harvest.” Then, give it to God as an offering. Before long, you’ll have more than enough shoes for yourself and to give as gifts to others.

You might ask, “Is it really that simple?” Sure it is! The principle is clear; Jesus said, _*“…Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit”*_ (John 12:24). Proclaim the Word to your seed; your money and the things you own. Speak to your offerings to the Lord and say, “You’re coming back in a multiplied harvest, in the Name of Jesus; I release you with the blessings of God.”

Don’t cry for the lack of money; don’t cry about something you don’t have; put the principles in God’s Word to practice and you’ll surely have a testimony

Prayer...
Dear heavenly Father, I thank you for making my life like a well-watered garden; I’m fruitful and productive always, and at all times. Everything and everyone that’s connected to me experiences the grace of God and responds to the influence and beauty righteousness that your produces. Goodness and mercy follow me every day of my life, and whatever I lay my hands to do prospers, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study:
Mark 11:23
For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.

2 Corinthians 4:13.
We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak;

Hebrews 13:5-6
[Let your] conversation [be] without covetousness; [and be] content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee. 6 So that we may boldly say, The Lord [is] my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me.

Daily Scripture Reading

1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Matthew 21:1-32,
Exodus 18-19

2-Year Bible Reading Plan: Matthew 11:1-10,
Genesis 30

plainbibletruth:
Don't MISREPRESENT what we are saying.
What we are saying is this: The Christian is NOT UNDER ANY obligation to tithe.
The Christian is to personally choose what to give and should not be coerced, pressured or manipulated in any form to give any particular amount or particular PERCENTAGE of money.
The rule is - each one should give as he has purposed in his heart. To that extent, MANDATORY TITHING runs CONTRARY to God's rule for GIVING for the new Testament believer.








I can't recall mentioning that Christ has personally given me a new revelation. ALL that we need for our spiritual under the New Covenant has been given to us. AND, btw, TITHING IS NOT included there.

Thanks for your time

^^^

And my answer remain same

Did you just write that the bible assumed Melchizedek existed as a priest? I have corrected you before, that he doesnt have beginning of day nor end of life is not the same as it was not recorded.

I told you Christ did not succeed (pass baton) Melchizedek....Na wa for u o. Of same priesthood is not same as passing baton.Christ did not succeed him, if Christ did then it means Melchizedek is no longer existing. Christ brought us salvation, he is a priest of his own kind, but of d same order o! Of his own kind was because he brought us salvation with his blood, Melchizedek didnt....but all of them are of same ORDER!

Hebrews 7v 11AMP:
Now if perfection (a perfect fellowship between God and the worshiper) had been attainable by the Levitical priesthood—for under it the people were given the Law—why was it further necessary that there should arise another and different kind of Priest, [size=32pt]one after the order of Melchizedek, [/size] rather than one appointed after the order and rank of Aaron?

Isn't it amazing that after all these years my writings agree with themselves and you all just keep changing stance.

If it's not

1. Tithing is of the law; it'll be

2. Tithing is not monetary or

3. Tithe of Abraham was war spoils only

4. Tithing is a sin and tithers and their pastors will go to hell

Etc

I've seen it all bro

brocab:
You tithers, watch and listen, what the prophetess Glenda Jackson said about you TITHERS surprise surprise, you won't make eternity with the Lord-but you will spend eternity in Hell, with your pastors.
Don't be fools-come back to the word of God, and be saved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omfir6TJl58

Do you share same belief?

plainbibletruth:
So, you prefer to stand AGAINST the clear word of God. If that is your choice what can we say?

Where is tithing against the word of God ooooo?

What Deception is in this: Does our FREEDOM in Christ cover our giving? Absolutely YES!

The HISTORY of the early Church show how believers gave. There were numerous instances of GIVING. Not once was TITHING or any form of MANDATORY GIVING mentioned. Not once!
Or did you not read through well?
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Don't shift the goal post... The question is, where did anyone here say tithing is mandatory (a must)?

I see!! You are WORKS DRIVEN! That is why you guys feel that you need to DO TITHING in order to earn God's approval. No wonder!

I gree... Will you let me and tithing be now? See as you stylish avoided this

Since Christ has given you a better revelation, how come you haven't started the revival? Start your own church and teach the new revelation God's given you na... All this mouth here can't help you on the day he asks you "how far"


I can understand why

BERNIMOORE:
Nothing like ''priesthood order'' of melchizedeck but rather ''order of Melchizedeck'' order here means 'likeness' or 'similar'/ 'similitude'
Hebrew 7:15
15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest
17 For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec

Na wa o...

So for example, King James version is different from the version of King James?



Heheheheh

You Have The Authority Of Jesus - Sunday, January 29th

Pastor Chris

And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen (Matthew 28:18-20).

In our opening scripture, Jesus tells His disciples that all power (authority) in heaven and on earth has been given to Him. Philippians 2:9-10 says, “Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth.”

The Father gave all authority to Jesus. It wasn’t all the presidents of the world that came together and vested all authority on Jesus; it wasn’t done by democracy; it was God’s sovereign discretion. He alone could do such a thing. Now, Jesus says to us, the believing ones, “On the basis of the authority given to me by the Father, I commission you to go preach the Gospel and teach all nations.” He delegated His authority to the Church, to go make pupils and students of the nations of the world; to teach them how to live.

Your authority in Christ is perfect and absolute. No evil, demon, or darkness can resist it as you preach the Gospel with boldness everywhere. Mark 16:17-18 says, “And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.” This is a sovereign declaration of deity. It’s a law in the realm of the spirit. When you speak in the Name of Jesus, it’s as though Jesus Himself were speaking.

Therefore, do all things in His Name; live in the authority of His Name. Refuse to allow the devil run rampage in your environment; use your authority in Christ against the devil and he’ll have no choice but to flee. Hallelujah!


Prayer....
Dear Father, I thank you for the privilege and authority to use the Name of Jesus; the Name that is above all names. At the Name of Jesus, demons tremble, chains are broken, doors are open, and mountains crumble. And in the power and authority of that Name, I go forth today in victory, reigning and ruling over circumstances, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study:
John 14:12-14
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater [works] than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. 13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do [it].

Acts 3:6 & 16
Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk. & 16 And his name through faith in his name hath made this man strong, whom ye see and know: yea, the faith which is by him hath given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.


Daily Scripture Reading

1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Matthew 20:17-34, Exodus 16-17

2-Year Bible Reading Plan: Matthew 10:34-42, Genesis 29

Boss13:
You have just described your personal savior and god - Pastor Chris. I thought you worship Jesus?

Why are you like this?

donnie:
Sure I did! America has had a visitation from God.

Benny Hinn said "America needs Nigeria now more than ever"

The carnal minds will not understand

Seun:
Where can we watch it?

YouTube... Search for Benny Hinn and pastor Chris


You didn't answer me na.. The pics Part

plainbibletruth:
"It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be BURDENED again by a yoke of slavery" Galatians 5: 1

I and other tithers want to be burdened.. We appreciate your concern, but.. We're just fine bro

Does our FREEDOM in Christ cover our giving? Absolutely YES!

The HISTORY of the early Church show how believers gave. There were numerous instances of GIVING. Not once was TITHING or any form of MANDATORY GIVING mentioned. Not once!

No need for this deception. Where did you see anyone say tithing is a must? Is it not you guys that keep saying tithing must be stopped?

Instead what we find is the encouragement and challenge to choose to give and be generous in giving.

Today's tithing PROMOTERS however have succeeded in robbing the Christian of his freedom purchased by Christ and have used all kinds of gimmicks to yoke the believer to a system of GIVING not mandated for the church age.

Since Christ has given you a better revelation, how come you haven't started the revival? Start your own church and teach the new revelation God's given you na... All this mouth here can't help you on the day he asks you "how far"

BERNIMOORE:
nobody is stopping you and dont even make yourself so important as if you are the main topic of discussion, but rather tell us ''the order of priesthood that you claim that jesus belong'' that you relied on in teaching tithing and not voluntary giving

BERNIMOORE:
on page 15 this is what you said below;



You earlier claimed in your post that "Jesus belong to an order of priesthood" but failed to tell us "the order of priesthood"

It's a no brainer na... It's the order of Melchizedek

it is very important to this discussion because of the The strange claim that Abraham paid tithe"through that strange priesthood order" so tell us the"priesthood order" that Jesus belong Are you happy now!

It's embarrassing you didn't really know this

plainbibletruth:
ANYTHING SERIOUS in the Word of God that the Christian needs to comply with is SPECIFICALLY mentioned in the epistles. Anything not stated there as REQUIRED of the Christian is UNIMPORTANT - TITHING INCLUDED.

Lol... Smoking was not stated as required... So, it's unimportant in Christian habit?

Gambling too?

Balanced diet was not stated as required, is it unimportant.? (remember a gym was mentioned... And required sef)

I want to think that you're old enough as a Christian to know that the issue is not about us. It is about God. Did Uzzah complain when he wanted to help God with stabilizing the Ark? Did God accept his non-complaint? The issue is not whether tithers are excited about doing it or not, the issue is are they doing God's will?

So, it is against God's will to tithe? Nothing I no go read for nairaland

Any scriptures?

Let us not go into semantics and grammar like Gombs tried to do with i think Candour. What is the difference between NECESSITY AND MANDATORY? Hardly any difference.
Merriam Webster Dictionary:[i][/i]
necessity - something that you must have or do: something that is necessary.
necessary - so important that you do it or have it : absolutely needed.
So, what is your take?

Lol... I laughed because your painment for tithing is driving you southward

When you guys switch to using 'eternal principles' to push tithing you are actually saying that it something established from before time to be observed. And when you do that are you not saying it is MANDATORY and not left free will decision?

Is this what you comprehended?

BERNIMOORE:
Nothing to hold on, they are hell bent on cherry-picking selected tithe law, they are bent on misleading, but objective readers can easily discern their lustful greedy motives, kudos to All on this page standing by the truth, no one is saying that you shouldn't donate to the church but don't call it tithe because we are not under curse but grace

I will tithe... Come and stop me.

petra1:


Ta ló ń kó omo mala ni yooba?

Jesu noni, sir

petra1:
I've told you what to do



That's not nice . Hide for who? Don't you have another moniker?



All these because of one question

Gombs!! . . . See what I'm saying .

Hehe.. It was anticipated na...

petra1:
Honesty test. 001. They can't admit it . That means they get my point . Case closed. The rest will be Yabis watch out . When bible fail na yabis remain.

Ah... I know them na... Wella


They'd rather deactivate than admit. E fi trash le fun LAWMA