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petra1:
Jealous? Wetin consign" you. Freedom of association. You get your buddies don't you?



FA far far fa FOUL! . It's carnal of you to think that way. Tithes is one of the least givings . I'm serious . 10% May look big in your eyes but for givers it's the least . Some of us even give more than the 10% as tithes . Because it just looks so small . I personally reverted back to 10% since it's what God demanded . I can channel money to other projects . The free will giving is far higher than tithes . People give lands and cars . People give millions for Gods work. What is common 10%? Didn't you hear how people bought plane for their pastor? How much tithe will buy that.

They think it's tithing that keeps the church.. How carnal

petra1:
A man must stay where his conviction is. If you don't believe in what they teach , find your place . If not you can't be blessed

Exactly sir

Candour:
See the scripture below

Hebrews 7:8 KJV
And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them , of whom it is witnessed that he liveth.

What do you think the bolded portion means with respect to your obvious good knowledge of English language? Past tense or past continuous? Are you still going to argue with the bible on its specificity as it concerns this particular incident?

Where does Bible indicate that Abraham paid tithes again and to whom?

Candour.. I can understand why you can't answer me.. It's OK bro

Candour:
No vex bro. I greet you a mullion times abeg. Twale for you

Much respect bro!

The bible indicated just once. Can you now point to any scripture that indicates otherwise?

Is that sufficient to conclude it was just once? For Abraham' prayer to God was indicated once (the second wasn't really a prayer) does it mean he prayed once since it was recorded once?

Genesis 14:20 KJV
And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.

Scripture used plural there, are you saying it was also multiple times inside this one "spoils of war"?

Egton, get my point.. No come shift goal post na

The Bible recorded REVCEIVETH as in receives tithe... Receiveth is a continuous term meaning receives not received

Keypoint is... Levites paid to Melchizedek (even today ie Jews ) in Abraham... Out father of faith.

If the Bible uses a present continuous tense to suggest tithes are received and paid by levites to Melchizedek in Abraham our Father of faith, how much more we (Christians) who belong to the priesthood of Judah in that same order of Melchizedek? Remember Jesus is the high priest we are priests. These said, how then could you say tithing is obsolete?

I'm not trying to convince you, we've been through this longer than any folk here except Petra1

This is for readers sake.

Exactly what the bible means is what u mean too

You're yet to explain

What do you understand by the term "levites paid tithes to Melchizedek in Abraham"?

MuttleyLaff:
Nothing to explain,
what where you expecting to be used for Levites.
Of course, if one Levite, then one tithe was paid,
but since its more than one Levite who proxy Abraham paid tithe, then the plural tithes is used.
SMH, can't believe anyone will ask for this to be explained.

Back off, if I needed your 'intelligence' I'd have requested so.. Until then, back off

Junia:
They didn't pay tithe to Melchizedek

Stop lying na

In addition, we might even say that these Levites-- the ones who collect the tithe--paid a tithe to Melchizedek when their ancestor Abraham paid a tithe to him.

You're having comprehension challenge or what?

Check the last part
When their ancestor Abraham paid a tithe to him
They didn't pay tithe to Melchizedek, it was Abraham
who paid tithes to him. So because of what Abraham
has done, it can be assumed that the levites have
paid tithes to Melchizedek.

I think I am done with you.. Thanks bro

Junia:
It doesn't change the fact that the tithe is what they are paid from

You lied that the tithes were given to them.. It's different from they are paid from it.


The reason is, Some church tithes for a month is 8 to 9 digits.. You claiming it's given to Bishops is a huge lie.

Junia:
They didn't pay tithe to Melchizedek

Hebrews 7:9-10 KJV
And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham. [10] For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him.


Easy English
So, by the *priests in his family, Levi gets the tenth part from the people. But we could say that, by Abraham, Levi also paid a tenth part to Melchizedek.


Are you saying that the Bible lied? Candour.... Are you of same thought process?

In addition, we might even say that these Levites-- the ones who collect the tithe--paid a tithe to Melchizedek when their ancestor Abraham paid a tithe to him.

Check the last part
When their ancestor Abraham paid a tithe to him
They didn't pay tithe to Melchizedek, it was Abraham who paid tithes to him.

All these is just to discredit tithing o... Your brazenly lying and twisting plain grammar just as you fought the "first church" till I nailed you to the cross of humility.

I mean... See plain English o

So because of what Abraham has done, [b]it can be assumed [/b]that the levites have
paid tithes to Melchizedek.

Lol

Candour... Come and see o

Junia:
You don't know and im telling you
Some may be used for other things
But i was told that is what the Bishops are paid from

Better rendered this way...

Don't you just feel better with yourself now? Truth liberates.

Go and sin no more

Candour:
You tell me where scripture remotely suggests Abraham paid tithes on anything apart from the spoils of his ONLY war. See the scripture

Ahn ahn... Answer greetings na

You'd do good to answer me first. Thanks

Hebrews 7:9-10 KJV
And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham. [10] For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him.

The bold portion is very time specific. Can you point to any other time?

Time specific? Candour... It's me o, not some rookie

The bible said "TITHES"... notice the plural

Receiveth is a continuous term meaning receives not received

Keypoint is... Levites paid to Melchizedek (even today ie Jews ) in Abraham... Out father of faith.

You're yet to explain

What do you understand by the term "levites paid tithes to Melchizedek in Abraham"?


Thank you

Candour:
Pastor joagbaje with spiritual gymnastics as usual. See what Abraham paid tithes from

Hebrews 7:4 KJV
Now consider how great this man was , unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.

Are you saying the holy spirit lied there that it was from ONLY spoils of that particular war?

Hey buddy.. Long time

Good to have you around.

What do you understand by the term "levites paid tithes to Melchizedek through Abraham"?

Is there any chance in scriptures that suggests Abraham paid tithes once?

annunaki2:
Dunce, Paul was inspired to write scriptures himself. The scriptures used in his time were the epistles.

1. Why call me a dunce? Is that proper in a civil discussion?

2. Paul quoted the law and writings of the prophets many many times. What they had then was the not what you assumed. By the way, do you know what epistles mean?

annunaki2:
If my pastor is ignorant of the fact that church tithing is a fraud, then I am rest assured God talks to me more than such a pastor.

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petra1:
Can I ask a simple question? What was the scripture that they used in Paul's day?

They used emmm.... Something sha, it wasn't the law.... Emmmm


Junia, oya, what was the name of the scriptures them Paul used... Remind us please.

Junia:
Yes
The tithes are given to the bishops
They are full time
Their needs must be provided but not through tithes
But free will giving
Galatians 6:6 read it
You give what you have not neccesirily 10 percent
And i make sure i participate fully during Galatians 6:6 day where we provide for our Preciding Bishop ( Dag Heward Mills )

Lies, simply humble yourself and go ask your pastor.

petra1:
You're not a member there , you don't have a pastor . You can't say you're fully devoted and you don't do what is taught there . Just say you attend the service but not devoted .

Have you taken out time to ask your pastor clarification on tithes

These are what the Bible called "mixed multitude"

Suddenly, he is fully devoted but does not do all 'his church' teaches... How 'smart'

Junia:
In addition, we might even say that these Levites-- the ones who collect the tithe--paid a tithe to Melchizedek when their ancestor Abraham paid a tithe to him.

Check the scripture well
Maybe you didn't understand it well
According to the law of tithing levites are the ones whp take tithes
This scripture also confirms that

"Give these instructions to the Levites: When you receive from the people of Israel the tithes I have assigned as your allotment, give a tenth of the tithes you receive--a tithe of the tithe--to the LORD as a sacred offering.

The levites also pay tithe to the high priest just as Abraham did



But that is not what we are adressing now
Tithing is a law .. period
So why do you practise a law though there is no levite now to receive the tithe ??

Is it that you don't know how to read?

And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham.

What is difficult here to understand biko?

If tithing is a law, how then or what law justifies levites paying tithe to Melchizedek through Abraham?

alchemist13:
What's so ironic about posts like this is that they are the same people that will criticize critics and atheists for quoting the Bible out of context and then go on to quote the Bible out of context.

Epp us quote it in context

petra1:
Hebrews 7:9 (KJV Strong's)
9 And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham.

Thank God for scriptures like this . They said would have maintained it's not tithe . It's war booty . They wanted to kill the evidence . Just as some people who wanted to kill Lazarus after Jesus raised him . .

John 12:10 (KJV Strong's)
10 But the chief priests consulted that they might put Lazarus also to death;



Satan you can't put tithing to death . You can't put offerings to death .you can't put worship of God to death in the name of any strange doctrine

Don't mind them... The writer must have forgotten to write

And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham who paid war booty as tithe and once.

Junia:
Funny
We obey them in the Lord
If my leader is a sexual immoralist he teaches me to do same should i obey him
I read the bible and i know the truth
Thus, i cannot be deceived

So, you're saying God talks to you more than your pastor?

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Thanks

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Junia:
Im a lighthouse member
Fully devoted
They pay tithes but i don't
But i give to support our healing jesus campain to preach the gospel
I fulfill Galatians 6:6 by providing for my pastor though he doesn't really need it
That is what the bible requires from believers
Free will giving
According to the law of tithing, tithed are given to levites(both priests and workers), foreigners, the poor, fatherless, and eaten by the tither.

Now you pay tithes to your Pastor
Is your Pastor representing any of the listed people above ??
Certainly not
So why do you tithe ??
Why do you go back to the law ??
If want to pay tithe then obey the rest of the laws so that you will not be a debtor to the law

I've answered all these... I don't want to be any more redundant as you've tried to make me.

Meanwhile... Why rebel? Don't you have Hebrews 13:17 in your Bible ?

Junia:
Is there a levite to reveive it ??
If Yes then i will tithe

How many times will you have to be schooled that tithing preceeded Levites, who Bible said paid tithes to Melchizedek through Abraham?

Junia:
A believer is not required to tithe because it is a law

Wrong

And according to the law, tithe is agricultural products and must be given to levites, poor, widow and eat it during feasts
This is the law

Wrong... Did you know tithes was paid in cash too under the law?

There is nothing like kingdom principles
If you think there is something like that, prove with a scripture

You've not understood plain Bible text... Let's not get ahead biko

Junia:
The word of God
At that time they have written alot of letters to the church already
And the OT was there at that time

But note the difference
When following the law, you will honour your parents because of the law

When following Christ, you will honour your parents because you love them

Hahahahahahahahahahabahahahababab


OK... What of

But note the difference
When following the law, you will tithe because of the law

When following Christ, you will tithe because you love him

petra1:
Tithers are not complaining. They know the benefit of their giving. It's non givers who complain for givers

Abi o.. They can't understand why someone will go to church and give a tithe of 1 million naira... So, they hate on.

Secondly clergymen are the number 1 tithers and givers .let me tell you the money of clergy is not through tithe . What we give to God . Is used for the house of God .

These folks don't have a pastor... If they do, they're rebellious even when taught. Most of them don't visit churches or are submitted there.

A clearly man lives by what he preaches . He gives and receives. Clergy who doesn't give. Can't have . The allowance a full time clearly receive is minimal . Let's not go there .

Forget these children of disobedience... They'd live according to the quality of their words here. Amen