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stagger:
Olodo!

Wetin you dey do for US sef? Probably washing corpses to make ends meet. Swallow your pride and come back home so that a Winner somewhere can clean you up!

I am not going to keep exchanging words with you but you need to be enlightened even though i wasnt talking to you in the first instance. i was talking to niassawa. I can see you are half educated even as you and your oyedepo brags in arrogance. To whom you yield yourself to, to him you are slave. Nigerians here in US have all gone beyond washing corpses and even if that's what I chose to do for a living, which is not what I am doing, I am contended with what God had done for me and my family. I am not here to brag about the height God had taken me in life. And for you information, I was once a winners member in badagry chapel. I have seen it all in winners' chapel and do not intend to expose the hidden secrets of winners' chapel to the whole world and you are not gonna tempt me to do that here. I left winners' becos it's not a true place to be for true christians. once again, keep to your oil and mantle brain.

stagger:
I do customized T-shirts and monogramming as one of my businesses and I can tell you that her designs are horrendous! If my graphics people do that sort of copy and paste job, I will just sack them without hesitation. Can't spend money buying the machines in millions to produce such crap for customers.

If you want to learn, join my academy. We are starting courses in February!

As you can read, i wasnt talking to you and you r not niassawa. The fact that i wanted to learn such graphics doesnt mean i want to design same thing niassawa had designed even though we share same view about your MOG. It is obvious that your brain meant for you to think properly and better your future had been dedicated, inflicted n indoctrinated by your papa oyedepo. Keep your oyedepo dedicated, oil n mantle brain to yourself.

@ niassawa,
I hv been following your comments. I really like your graphics representation and i dont mind learning. pls kindly email me: goshen360@yahoo.co.uk. Thanks

canadaik:
she blasphemed when she claimed she was a witch for jesus, she is old enough to be his grand child, i dont see any reason why she cant be slapped!!

She also said she is not a witch. This is clearly misunderstand of conversation between the MOG and the girl. The girl might as well thought it is an alter call for people to give their lives to Christ (just assuming) because she said, i am not a witch but winch for Christ. But the MOG should have been patience, ask more questions and not to hv slapped the girl in a hurry. This is not Christ-like.

@ Stagger, I tell you the truth, I am a born again christian and and a student of the bible, not as taught by any church or man but i study the bible and allow the Holy Spirit to teach me. Let me clearly say to you in truth and in love as a christian(follower of Christ). YOU ARE NOT A FOLLOWER OF CHRIST BUT A FOLLOWER OF OYEDEPO. ALSO, NOTHING IS WRONG BEING A FOLLOWER OF OYEDEPO BUT IN AS MUCH AS HE FOLLOWS CHRIST. THIS IS THE BIBLE AND THIS IS CHRIST IN US. YOU ARE NOT DOING ANY GOOD JUSTIFYING OR DEFENDING OYEDEPO'S ACTION TO THAT GIRL. I SEE A CLEAR MISCONCEPTION OR MISUNDERSTANDING IN THAT CONVERSION BUT OYEDEPO AS A MAN OF GOD SHOULD NOT HAVE SLAPPED HER. JESUS, OUR PERFECT EXAMPLE NEVER DID THAT TO ANY HUMAN BEING AND IT IS ON THIS GROUND THAT I SAY OYEDEPO IS WRONG TO HAVE SLAPPED THE GIRL. EDUCATION, CIVILIZATION, RULE OF LAW, MAN OF GOD AND ANOINTING ASIDE, IT IS UNBIBLICAL AND UNSCRIPTURAL.

PLS DONT LET YOUR LOVE, LIKENESS OR PERSONAL INTEREST FOR THE MOG BLIND YOU TO WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES. WHATEVER HEIGHT GOD HAD TAKEN YOU IN LIFE, IF YOU CAN SEE SOMETHING BAD AND CONNOT SIMPLY SAY IT IS BAD IRRESPECTIVE OF ANY MAN INVOLVED, I WONDER WHAT KIND OF BIBLE YOU ARE READING AND I WONDER THE KIND OF CHRISTIAN YOU ARE. GOD GOD BLESS YOU.

And when Jesus departed from there, two blind men followed him, crying, and saying, Son of David, have mercy on us. Matthew 9:27 KJV.

I have said it before and will say it again until revival, reformation and revolution breakout and turn arround my generation for the true character and love of Christ. How on earth can the blind follow anything? When God gave me the revelation of the above verse by the Spirit of God, I see the true picture of a generation of religious people that are blind and following Jesus. They cannot see due to their blindness that Jesus had departed from the place  he was but they are still following notwithstanding and this is the only time in the bible you see the blinds follow Jesus, that is after he had departed from a place.

If the above verse is not prophetic, some religious people in their blindness but following man of God will not come here in the name of "anointed man of God" (who they as the blind generation is following and cant see that Jesus had departed), and in the name of "touch not my anointed" (which their anointing has become oil/mantle merchant) to defend the actions of Oyedepo just because they are blind and following. Apostle Paul, anointed more that your papa man of God said: Follow me even as I follow Christ. 1Cor11:1. Why do followers of Oyedepo follow him when he is not following Christ? Find the answer in above verse. JESUS IS LORD.

@ omoPastor and others who have contributed to this thread defending the action of Oyedepo in the name of he being a "man of God", in the name of "touch not my anointed", and so on. Let me correct you in the light and truth of the word of God as a true christian and child of God.

When I gave my life to Christ, as a young Christian I was taught a lot of things by the church i was born again through then but when I was dedicated to give myself to indepth study of God's word, I found out many of the things we were doing then in that church IS UNBIBLICAL AND UNSCRIPTURAL IN THE CHURCH OF JESUS. I keep those things to myself anyway, less i start another explosion here on this forum. This is the way many christians are being taught unscriptural and unbiblical things all in the name that, they are men of God, I was born into that church, my father is the founder, I gave my life to christ in that such and so, we fail to take responsibilities for our generation.

Jesus was talking to His disciples in mark 8:14-21. Remember at this time Jesus was talking to the disciple, it was as though He was talking to Christian who are not yet mature in understanding of revelation but they are disciples(followers of Christ).

Mark 8:14-21

14 And they forgot to take bread, and except for one loaf, they did not have any with them in the boat.

15 And He charged them, saying, Watch! Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and the leaven of Herod.

16 And they reasoned with one another, saying, It is because we do not have bread.

17 And Jesus, knowing it, said to them, Why are you reasoning because you have no bread? Do you not yet perceive nor understand? Do you have your heart hardened?

18 Having eyes, do you not see? And having ears, do you not hear? And do you not remember?

19 When I broke the five loaves for the five thousand, how many handbaskets full of broken pieces did you take up? They said to Him, Twelve.

20 And when I broke the seven for the four thousand, how many baskets filled with broken pieces did you take up? And they said, Seven.

21 And He said to them, Do you not yet understand?

The leaven of the Pharisees is their hypocrisy and the leaven of Herod was his corruption and injustice in politics. The Bible says in Ephesians4:26. Be angry but sin not, And Paul say, Follow me even as I follow Christ.

I understand fully that we are human and prone to mistakes. As a man of God, Oyedepo is not perfect however, in this case Oyedepo is suppose to KNOW BETTER.

I know Oyedepo had over reacted and tried to defend his faith as there is nothing such as winch or witch for Christ in the bible BUT NOT TO HAVE GONE TO THE EXTEND OF SLAPPING OR HIT THE GIRL FOR ANY REASON. This what this thread is all about. If you cannot call evil, evil; call bad, bad and speak the truth not fearing any man regardless of who such man is, I wonder what kind of generation you will raise. If you cannot be faithful in little, I wonder how you will be faithful in much. OYEDEPO IS BIBLICALLY WRONG AND HITTING THE GIRL IS UNSCRIPTURAL. IF PEOPLE HAVE REACTED HERE ON THIS FORUM BASED ON OYEDEPO HIT THE GIRL THAT IT IS WRONG AND YOU ARE HERE DEFENDING HIM. DOES THAT MEAN IF OYEDEPO TELL YOU TO SLAP YOUR SISTER OR MOTHER, YOU WILL JUST GO AHEAD AND DO THAT JUST BECAUSE HE IS YOUR PASTOR OR BISHOP OR JUST BECAUSE HE IS A MAN OF GOD? OR IF OYEDEPO ASK YOU TO DO SOMETHING AGAINST  THE WORD OF GOD, YOU WILL DO IT SAYING TOUCH NOT MY ANOINTED OR BECAUSE HE IS ANOINTED HE CANNOT BE WRONG? I CAN GO ON AND ON BUT IN MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORD OF GOD, I DO NOT WANT TO GO DEEPER BECAUSE I MIGHT TAKE THIS ISSUE PERSONAL BUT I DO NOT WANT TO. HOWEVER, LET IT BE CLEAR THAT OYEDEPO IS WRONG.

musKeeto:
Hahaha, funny how things look a year on. When we screamed that it was a political move to win votes, they called us CRAZY, hope now he needs no votes, he still finds time to attend this year's Congress,

I pray the Lord open the eyes of Nigerians and the so called pastors to see that GEJ is just a physical president but he doesnt rule or govern the country. Attending Holy Ghost congress is just a fake appearance. There are strong men than him that he is also subject to them that rules and govern Nigeria. These are the strongholds in human form that rule that country behind the scene. That is why nothing will be done when it comes to aspect like electricity in that country. These men behind the scene are apparently the top guys behind importation of generators into the country and they dictate to this president. I speak by revelation and not by enticing words of man's wisdom. If there be anyone who dont believe what I have just said, dont quickly condemn or judge my words but wait till GEJ finish his term, compare with OBJ tenure and see what happens with the next president. However, GOD BLESS THE PEOPLE OF NIGERIA AND GOD BLESS THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA.

hmmmmm, na whao, The bible says: Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 1 john 4:1

People of God, go to youtube and type this man's name, you will like 2-3 people of the same name doing same thing. Lord help us in this end time. The word of God is PERFECT.

musKeeto:
Mr. if you have a problem with your life, go and solve it somewhere else. If you've nothing reasonable to contribute to this thread apart from curses and threats, why not go to the closest transformer, and peck it.
You've never seen any of my type. With the level I'm at now, I doubt if your generation would ever be better than mine. If an argument based on logic is too difficult for you to comprehend, then move to another thread. Stop adding extra pages to this topic with your crap.

@ musKeeto,
You are one us that will reform this generation and i am commited also. If these people cannot simply understand we are not against God, Christ, Church and the biblical teaching of Christ and bible, i wonder what they will understand. I am sick and tired of this generation who come here elevating men of God even more than the God they serve.

We love men of God, we respect them as our spiritual heads in the body of Christ but if we question some actitivities in the church of Christ by these men of God who we believe they are suppose to know better, nuture us and be our examples as a way of contending for the biblical faith and truth, some people (men of God followers) will label us names.

LET GOD BE TRUE AND EVERY MAN (including your pastor) A LIAR. WHY? Because, your pastor can preach the bible out of his ideas and wishes just to achieve his aims and objectives. If not, we wont have all this non-sense of bathing in beaches, rubbing special soap/oil, drinking anointing oil, praying in name of mary that even Christ died for, worshinng men of God and praying with mantles etc. THE FACT THAT  THESE THINGS ARE RECORDED IN THE DOESNT MAKE THEM DOCTRINAL AND PRACTICE OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS. BUT THE FOUNDATION OF GOD STAND SURE AND EVERLASTING. LET'S RAISE THE STANDARD AND BANNER OF GOD WHICH IS LOVE, FAITH IN JESUS, HIS TEACHINGS AND CHARACTER.

@ cautious, muskeeto and people of like passion as i am, kindly send me email or adding request on yahoo messenger. Together, we can start this revolution. goshen360@yahoo.co.uk

@ musKeeto, pls send me email or adding request on my yahoo at goshen360@yahoo.co.uk

Thanks

Jencejyde:
Well said! and God bless you.

Now, let me address the issue of private jets and community service. Im very much close to the leadership of the RCCG and without giving out too much details, i would want to let you know that the generalization of all men of God lavishing on riches and flying about in jets without helping their immediate communities is uncalled for. Is everything right in the church(rccg in focus) answer is no. Does the leadership have foresight and a clear vision as to how they want the church to affect the lives of the populace in this country. Answer is yes. If i may ask do you know how many parishes the church has world wide? Hmmm, wont say much, Now in a couple of months Dgo will be clocking 70 and every parish in the rccg wants him to come and hold crusades, ordain new pastors, hold conventions and congresses, Open new parishes and lots more all over the world, If you are a frequent traveller, you will know how tough it is to travel to and fro Naija without the hassle and bussles of immigration, The purpose of aquring the jet is not to play around, But to aid the work he is doing for God,

See it as you may, but this same man refused to purchase on of these in liew of what people would say when he could have had it a long time ago. You wont be traveling to 24 countries within two to three weeks and not nearly die of stress, trust me when you can afford what will ease you travels. The motive that everyone has for obtaining what they use is different and should never be generalized.

Now if you are opportuned to be close to the church administratively, you will notice that Dgo has instituted a programme called "Social Corporate Responsibility" that every Province within the church naming system is mandated to embark upon and monthly reports are given to the leadership to ensure that every parish caries out their quota, You may not have benefited, but surely people are and those that do can testify to that, Again do you know that a certain percentage of school fees for all missionaries(workers,pastors, et all ) is being paid by Dgo? Do you know how many peeps are on scholarships, Have you heard about "Heritage home" where orphans are being cared for and educated, ? The amenities that people on the camp ground enjoy for relatively free is financed by? Do you know how many Pastors are employed and paid worldwide?

Like i said, i am most grateful to God to be close to the leadership of this God ordained institution and if i did not know or experience better, i would probably join the band wagon of criticism, Now regardless of all said, there is no perfection anywhere and there are challenges even in the church, There are wrongdoings, lies, fraud and all going on, Do we know say that it is this Individual or that individual that is committing these atrocities,

Honestly i could go on all day, but seriously lets be objective, This is not about quoting bible passages but by doing practical things, setting examples that can be applied to everyday life.

I cant say much about other religious institutions cos i don't know what goes on there, but surely i wont condemn or rather its not in my place to condemn anyone or institution without knowing the real facts,

You may not necessarily agree with all i have said, but i have only tried to clarify some issues that some may not know. I pray we all succeed and join hands together to move this great country forward with the help of God.

YOU HAVE SPOKEN WELL LIKE A TRUE CHRISTIAN UNLIKE OTHER MEMBERS OF RCCG WHO COME HERE TO ELEVATE PST ADEBOYE WITHOUT A REASONABLE THING TO SAY. I PERSONALLY REASON WITH YOUR EXPLANATIONS PLUS THE FACT THAT YOU ARE CLOSER TO THE LEADERSHIP. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT B'COS I USED TO BE CLOSE TO ONE OF THE RCCG PASTOR WHEN I WAS IN FEDERAL POLY , OFFA BEFORE MOVING TO THE UNITED STATES.

@ i_DO, Tenkobe, musKeeto, 9icelag, dagboss, Hustle, RealTruth, Lecanno, Cautious, Sovpounds, saxywale, felifeli, debrief08, hercules07, numo86, Tunjman, karpenter YOU ARE ALL BLESSED NOT ONLY WITH TRUTH AND REVELATION OF GOD'S WORD BUT ALSO WITH THE MIND OF CHRIST. And to our other christian brothers and sisters who doesn't share same view with us, YOU ARE ALL BLESSED TOO.

I will like to point out here that none of the people mentioned above including me are anti-Christ nor are we anti church as church is Christ's institution and place of worship to the Most High God who had redeemed our sinful nature through His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ; but we are anti-religion(True religion to God does not neglect the poor, orphans, those who are hungry, judgment and love as Christ loved us) and religious people who, having the form of godliness but denying the power thereof and obviously thinks that when we give our lives to Christ, that we lost our minds, thinking God will descend down to come solve the problems we can solve by ourselves. Americans developed America and so other developed countries. We share the light of the biblical truth. When the word of God says: Romans 12:2: Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is--his good, pleasing and perfect will (New International Version), it’s talking about the same thing in Philippians 2:5, Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus. It's talking about attitudes and same character as if it were Jesus Christ. We can read other translations for more understand. I HOPE WE START BIBLICAL STUDY OF TRUTH HERE ON NAIRALAND SOON SO AS TO LIBERATE THE MINDS OF OUR FELLOW CHRISTIAN BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN LOVE.

I just read what Adeboye himself said: I quote and amplify

http://www.thenationonlineng.net/2011/index.php/news/29721-adeboye-urges-nigerians-to-seek-god%E2%80%99s-face.html

If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.
It is amazing that the so called God’s people (religious people) are the same wicked people in wicked ways and activities. God respects His word and principles, not persons. He loved us as sinners but hate our sins and wickedness that has plagued our land Nigeria.

Now in the light of Adeboye’s word, I guess we should question or will love to start reading about Redeemed Christian Church of God and other big churches in Nigeria taking responsibilities along side with the government. They should also start sacrificing for the orphans, poor, unemployed rather than flying in private jets and also taking responsibilities to participate in moving our dear country forward rather than all this yearly gathering and noise, am not condemning these gatherings, they are good as I also attend here in United States where I reside. But we should also start to see actions as to how their large congregation contributes to national development. Religious people obviously thinks that when we give our lives to Christ, that we lost our minds, thinking God will descend down to come solve the problems we can solve by ourselves. Americans developed America and so other developed countries. God will help those who help themselves, meaning we all, including these churches and so called men of God have to take responsibilities, sacrifice, work hard and think right as the preacher (Adeboye) had said.

unclenna:
@muskeetoo, is only GOD THAT will 4give u. I don't want to lay a curse upon you for sinning against GOD AND THE HOLY SPIRIT. I Pray that may your soul come to repentance before it is too late for you.

Look at church and pastor anointed that wants to curse who God had blessed, because he speaks the truth. If you have given your life to Christ, I encourage you to go pray and also give you mind to Christ so that, the mind which was inside of Christ will also be in you. Then you will come to the revelation of the truth and see the difference in your life and christian walk with God. We are not Anti-Christ nor anti church, church is good but anti-ungodly pastors that are looks like sheep but are wolves and not christ-like. i dont care their fame or church capacity; if it is not good, it is not God.

[quote author=goshen360 link=topic=821796.msg9760462#msg9760462 date=1323841397][/quote]BLESSED ARE YOU BECAUSE FLESH AND BLOOD HAVE NOT REVEALED THESE THINGS TO YOU BUT MY FATHER WHO IS IN HEAVEN. TOGETHER, WE WILL PRAY, PREACH AND PROPHECY UNTIL REVIVAL AND REVOLUTION BREAK LOOSE IN THE MIND OF OUR OTHER CHURCH BUT NOT CHRIST MINDED BROTHERS. I RESIDE IN THE USA AND SEE SAME MATERIALISTIC SPIRITS INVADING THE CHURCHES OF CHRIST BUT THANK GOD FOR THE FAITHFUL FEW ONES WHO WILL WRITE BOOKS, RAISE MONEY FROM THEIR MEMBER AND THROUGH THE TELEVISION TO SEND MISSIONARIES TO AFRICA WHERE HUNGER IS PLAGUING THEM JUST TO GO FEED THE DYING CHILDREN. BUT OUR BLACK RELIGIOUS LEADERS WILL RATHER FLY IN 4 PRIVATE JETS AT THE SAME TIME RATHER THAN BEING CHRIST-LIKE IN THESE MISSIONS TO THE POOR.

Ten Kobo:
When the roof came down on the economy, hospitals became death camps, schools churned outs whores and semi-literate rogues, government ceased to exist in the mind of the people as communities took up the responsibilities of road constructions, security, electrification, water and all other essentials that were the primary responsibilities of government, our helpless people turned to marabouts in godly robes for their daily survival. Who will blame the poor for seeking help anywhere they believe it could be found? Do we not say that the illusion of a drowning man magnifies even the weighth of a straw? survival they say is the first law of nature, so when the quack nurses are busily killing pregnant mothers in their ill-equiped hospitals, the prayer chambers of certifiable criminals masked as pastors and GOs became the antenatal homes of millions of expectant mothers. Looking at Nigeria, Carl Marx must be horrified in his grave, even the American originators of this money-christianity, must be marvelling at the incredible heights it has attained in Nigeria.

[quote author=i_Do link=topic=821796.msg9760354#msg9760354 date=1323837917]Some of the people that attend those churches do not want to think critically or seek practical solutions to their problems. In some cases perhaps there are no practical solutions to their problems that they can see.

Their hopelessness is being exploited by so called GO worship by various churches and religions all over the world. The business model for Pentecostal xtian churches (I call them money making superstitious churches) was taken from the American mega-churches. It worked well for the business churches in the US hence it was replicated to the max in Nigeria as the economy tanked in the 90's.

Once the economy improves people will depart these churches in droves. They are based solely on feelings and emotions rather than the true teaching in the scriptures. If you notice most of them create fear in their members by borrowing from the local superstitions to further enslave their members. Creating fictional problems in the mind of the masses that they will in turn solve with prayers. The churches such as these are the real 419!
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BLESSED ARE YOU BECAUSE FLESH AND BLOOD HAVE NOT REVEALED THESE THINGS TO YOU BUT MY FATHER WHO IS IN HEAVEN. TOGETHER, WE WILL PRAY, PREACH AND PROPHECY UNTIL REVIVAL AND REVOLUTION BREAK LOOSE IN THE MIND OF OUR OTHER CHURCH BUT NOT CHRIST MINDED BROTHERS. I RESIDE IN THE USA AND SEE SAME MATERIALISTIC SPIRITS INVADING THE CHURCHES OF CHRIST BUT THANK GOD FOR THE FAITHFUL FEW ONES WHO WILL WRITE BOOKS, RAISE MONEY FROM THEIR MEMBER AND THROUGH THE TELEVISION TO SEND MISSIONARIES TO AFRICA WHERE HUNGER IS PLAGUING THEM JUST TO GO FEED THE DYING CHILDREN. BUT OUR BLACK RELIGIOUS LEADERS WILL RATHER FLY IN 4 PRIVATE JETS AT THE SAME TIME RATHER THAN BEING CHRIST-LIKE IN THESE MISSIONS TO THE POOR.[/quote]

Image123:
Scripture twisting, or lack of understanding?

2 Timothy 2:15, New International Version: Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.

Follow me on the other thread, i will cut you open, give you a diagnosis and prescribe a remedy that brings healing to your church mind. I SAY IT BOLDLY AM NOT ASHAMED OF THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST. I AM A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN BUT USED TO BE RELIGIOUS AND CHURCHIAN. NOTHING CHANGES UNTIL I ALSO GAVE MY MIND TO CHRIST FOR REVIVAL, RE-REATION AND NOW, THAT MIND WHICH WAS ALSO IN CHRIST IS IN ME. I AM NOT AGAINST CHURCH BUT THE LIFESTYLE OF CHURCH LEADERS THAT IS NOT CHRIST-LIKE. ASK YOURSELF AGAIN AS YOU READ MY COMMENT: IF JESUS WERE TO BE YOUR PASTOR, WILL HE GO BUY PRIVATE JETS WHILE PEOPLE IN THE CHURCH ARE HUNGRY, POOR, HELPLESS OR HOMELESS?

musKeeto:
Any religion that is not concerned about the poor and disadvantaged, ‘the slums that damn them, the economic conditions that strangle them and the social conditions that cripple them is a spiritually moribund religion awaiting burial - Martin Luther King Jnr.

The Roots of Violence:
Wealth without work,
Pleasure without conscience,
Knowledge without character,
Commerce without morality,
Science without humanity,
Worship without sacrifice,
Politics without principles.
~ Mohandas Karamachand Gandhi ~


Feel free to call me frustrated. If God helps me, young black children(in the future) will read about me, just like the guys above and Mandela.

, THAT THEIR EYES OF UNDERSTANDING BE OPENED.

musKeeto:
lmao, I'M ON YOUR SIDE,

That was me being sarcastic.

I FEEL YOU MY BROTHER. WE HAVE GIVEN OUR LIVES TO CHRIST BUT VERY FEW HAVE GIVEN THEIR MINDS TO CHRIST. LET THEM GIVE THEIR MINDS TO CHRIST AND SEE REVOLUTION BURST OUT LIKE NEVER SEEN. I HAVE SEEN IT ALL: BEING IN CHURCH AND NOT IN CHRIST BUT THANK GOD AM NOW IN CHRIST, IN CHURCH AND CHRIST IN MY MIND ALSO. SHOUT ALLELUYAH.

I REST MY CASE AT THIS MOMENT BUT IF ANYONE STIR ME UP, I WILL REPLY.

musKeeto:
Oh Lord, the 'blashpemers' are killing this thread,

No one is blashemer here. I AM A CHRISTIAN, BORN AGAIN AND CHRIST-LIKE BY HIS GRACE. The lives of your preachers are not Christ-like and we are only contending the faith, which is biblical,ok. I ask you a question again: IF JESUS WERE TO BE YOUR PASTOR, WILL HE GO BUY PRIVATE JETS WHILE PEOPLE IN HIS CHURCH ARE HUNGRY OR POOR OR HOMELESS?

[quote author=i_Do link=topic=821796.msg9760117#msg9760117 date=1323830365]Pentecostal Churches in Nigeria - Opium for the masses

At least the "Pastors" and their highly placed insiders are getting rich while the poor get poorer.

While some countries invent solutions - Computers, Blackberries, Electricity, Good Roads, etc we pray for "power to change hands" [b]When some of the members of these churches go home - they steal, fornicate and have affairs with married men and women.[/b]One big joke, so called religion.[/quote]ONLY IF THEY KNOW THAT THEIR MINDS MUST BE BORN AGAIN(permit me), REDEEMED, REVIVED AND REVOLUTIONIZED THEY WILL ALWAYS REMAIN AS THEY ARE.

Matthew 9:27: And when Jesus departed from there, two blind men followed him, crying, and saying, Son of David, have mercy on us.

The only time you see blind following Jesus in the bible is when Jesus left a place and the prophetic/church people cannot see this in our generation that Christ is no longer in all these big name churches as their fruit is not showing Christ-like. Stop all these Holy Ghost noise in Nigeria and go tell your pastors, G.Os, papas and church leaders to go support the government and solve problems of the nation. Our country remains the same because the church, which is one of the biggest organization in Nigeria today have left the government alone to solve the problems in Nigeria and it's not like that in developed countries. These pastors pray for progress and make so much noise in Nigeria but they are doing nothing to contribute to unemployment, they are not assisting the poor/less privileges, homeless are there and many needs empowerment even in their churches, a lot of things needs to be fix in our nation but they are full of noise, organizing conferences upon conferences, collecting people's money and Nigeria remains in a shameful state. The next thing we hear about them after these conferences/meetings is another private jets, the church people are also looking for anointing oil and impartation/mantle service that takes them no where and nothing has changed in their lives. ASK YOURSELF AS YOU READ MY COMMENT: IF JESUS WERE TO BE YOUR PASTOR, WILL HE GO BUY PRIVATE JETS WHILE PEOPLE IN THE CHURCH ARE HUNGRY, POOR, HELPLESS OR HOMELESS?

NIGERIANS AND THESE RELIGIOUS PEOPLE THINKS WHEN SOMEONE IS BORN AGAIN, HE OR SHE SHOULD LOST HIS/HER MIND AND REASONING ABILITIES. THE RELIGIOUS PEOPLE ADVERTISE CONFERENCES/MEETINGS FOR THEIR CHURCHES AND PASTORS BUT CANNOT ADVERTISE/PREACH CHRIST. THEY JUST CONCLUDED THE OYEDEPO VERSION OF THE WAVES OF GLORY FOR MORE DECEMBER/CHRISTMAS INCOME, NOW IT'S ADEBOYE’S VERSION.

Oh, foolish Galatians!(NIGERIANS) Who has cast an evil spell on you? For the meaning of Jesus Christ's death was made as clear to you as if you had seen a picture of his death on the cross. Galatians 3:1

ranlaen:
is this not adebayo church?
i no get money give am to buy another private jet .

The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

v10: Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us. Ecclesiastes 1:9-10

The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. v10:Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us. Ecclesiastes 1:9-10

LORD, GIVE US A LEADERS WITH PASSION FOR PEOPLE, NOT FOR POCKET THAT WILL BRING REVOLUTION AND REVIVAL AND RESTORE HOPE FOR GENERATIONS YET UNBORN.

musKeeto:
Let's ignore private jets and poor people. They serve the most HIGH God so they need jets to meet him up there privately  . There will always be poor people.

Nigeria's problem is not poverty but foolishness. People have learnt to appreciate mediocrity and scorn at integrity and hardwork. Hardwork in Nigeria is now foolsihness. People will sacrifice limbs to defend the awful movies Nollywood produces. These are just symptoms of a more serious ailment.

Our ability to think is dying everyday as we rely on a God that is a God of chance and 'it's my turn to shine'. So pple lazy about till maybe something clicks. And our system favours that, ask the militants.

Our ability to do right dies everyday because 'old things have passed away, behold all things have become new'. So everyone becomes a god in their own rights and treats everyone else as enemiez. It's either Igbo vs Yoruba, Christ Embassy vs Synagogue, North vs South (browse through nland for confirmation), no one seems to think we're, in our most basic form, humans. All these different tags do is create an illusion of division.

2 working hands would do more than a million prayers. If God had an inbox for prayers from Nigeria, they're probably in his SPAM folder. cus from the look of things, he ain't replying poo,

VERY CORRECT! NIGERIANS AND THESE RELIGIOUS PEOPLE THINKS WHEN SOMEONE IS BORN AGAIN, HE OR SHE SHOULD LOST THE MIND AND REASONING ABILITIES. THEY JUST CONCLUDED THE OYEDEPO VERSION OF THE WAVES OF GLORY FOR MORE DECEMBER AND CHRISTMAS INCOME, NOW IT'S ADEBOYE VERSION.

Oh, foolish Galatians!(NIGERIANS) Who has cast an evil spell on you? For the meaning of Jesus Christ's death was made as clear to you as if you had seen a picture of his death on the cross. Galatians 3:1

Matthew 9:27: And when Jesus departed from there, two blind men followed him, crying, and saying, Son of David, have mercy on us.

The only time you see blind following Jesus in the bible is when Jesus left a place and the prophetic people cannot see this in our generation that Christ is no longer in all these big name churches as their fruit is not showing christ-like. Stop all these Holy Ghost noise in Nigeria and go tell your pastors, G.Os and church leaders to go support the government n solve problems of the nation. Our country is remains the same because the church which is one of the biggest organization in nigeria today have left the government alone to solve the problem of Nigeria and it's not like that in developed countries. These pastors pray for progress and make so much noise in Nigeria but they r doing nothing to contribute to unemployment, they r not feeding/helping the poor, homeless are there and many needs empowerment, alot of things needs to be fix in our nation but they are full of noise, organizing conferences upon conferences, collecting people's money and Nigeria remains in a shameful state, the next thing we hear about them after these conferences/meetings is another private jets, the church people are also looking for anointing oil and impartation service that takes them no where, ASK YOURSELF AS YOU READ MY COMMENT: IF JESUS WERE TO BE YOUR PASTOR, WILL HE GO BUY PRIVATE JETS WHILE PEOPLE IN HIS CHURCH ARE HUNGRY OR POOR OR HOMELESS?

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Matthew 9:27. And when Jesus departed from there, two blind men followed him, crying, and saying, Son of David, have mercy on us.

Jesus love is no more in the heart of these men, called of God, Jesus' love and passion for people had left their heart and as a result, you only see the blind following them accoring to the verse quoted above, God help them restore passion for the people they were called to minister to. If Jesus is in their heart and the love/passion for people in their heart, one of them will not possess 4 jets in the name of the gospel n people still sit under them, where is the love they proclaim when the average man, even their members can't pay for tuition in their so called institutions. We have the poor, homeless, high unemployment they can contribute to etc. I was shocked when i heard of Adeboye that i used to respect so much recently mandated tithe for members of RCCG n aparently no wedding would be conducted for non tithe paying members or workers in rccg. These are wolves preaching in wolves church and imagine the spirit they transfer to people sitting under their ministrations.

And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not love or charity, I am nothing. 1 Corinthians 13:2

Matthew 7:22. Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?'

Matthew 25: 41-46.
41. Then He will say also to those on the left, Go away from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
42 For I was hungry and you did not give Me anything to eat; I was thirsty and you did not give Me a drink;
43 I was a stranger and you did not take Me in; naked and you did not clothe Me; sick and in prison, and you did not visit Me.
44 Then they also will answer, saying, Lord, when have we seen You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison and did not minister to You?
45 Then He will answer them, saying, Truly I say to you, Inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, neither have you done it to Me.
46 And these shall go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.