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Gradually many believers will come to light and understanding of this truth, that deliverance means salvation and salvation means deliverance.

He dwells in unapproachable light, in the timeless past, in the infinity. Btw, genesis 1v1 is a summary statement and from verse 2, it starts to break it down and how genesis 1v1 happened. Read it slowly again n digest it....you will understand

OLAADEGBU:
Did you miss me?

Sure....I missed your clowness...

jmoore:
The fake prophet is back. One year after Donald Trump lost.

No, he just regained his hacked account o. How can Ola run away? Can't you see his boss, Trump, too is trying to come back again.

Awon omo leefi yi tun ti de oo

Janosky:
Romans 3:29-30, John 4:23-24 "the God is "He".
"He" is how many persons?

You still don't understand..�

If you don't know, you don't know. Dont say no Christian can explain it. I can either confuse you the more OR I can help explain your confusion.

The Father is God
The Son is God
The Holy Spirit is God

AND YET, scripture says,

There's ONE God, ONE FAITH, ONE BAPTISM.

See if you can tie it up together without contradicting one scripture for or against another.

Not every where you read baptism is referring to WATER in the Bible. Follow the context and the meaning of the word baptism. Baptism doesn't always involve water in scripture.

christemmbassey:
More Grace brother

Thanks brother. Longest time. Where have you been hiding? Lol

peteregwu:
After being saved through christ blood, we are to obey his commandment and that is why we are commanded to be baptised by immersion. Jesus did it, why are you refusing it or counting it likely. Just because one believes in Jesus is not a guarantee thag he is going to heaven. Obedience to christ comandment is the key to heaven. Jf not, jesus wouldn't have said that 'not all that call him Lord, Lord will enter his kingdom, but those that do His will'.

Now, even in Mark 16:16 KJV
"He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."

We can see here that the same baptism is mentioned by christ. The pronlem with some believes is that they don't undertsnd what they are getting into. They don't undersrsnd the purpose of baptism, that's why they take it lightly and see it as nothing. Ignoramus in the things of God will send many to hell fire.

"my people perish for lack of knowledge".

Romans 6:3-4 KJV
"Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? [4] Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life."

Even when cornelius received christ and was baptised with the Holy spirit, apostle Peter suggested that they baptism by water shouldn't not be neglected and they were baptised.

Acts 10:46-48 KJV
" For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, [47] Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? [48] And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days."

We all take the bible for granted but beware, heaven is for those that obey all God's word in the bible.

The problem is, when you see the word baptism or baptize your mind had been trapped to think it's automatically WATER. Go and study the meaning of the word baptism or baptize and apply to every context and you will see most verses you quoted it does say WATER....it's your mind that's seeing water. Even Romans you quoted doesn't say you're baptized INTO WATER.....read again with open mind

Unfortunately to the religious minds (those who worship but do not know what they worship) in Nigeria today, ABEL DAMINA IS STILL ONE OF THE BEST AND SOUND TEACHERS OF THE WORD when it comes to doctrines.

I just typed it in capital letter or uppercase just so you can read me very well.

peteregwu:
Pastors like are not worth listening to. The bile calls them false prophet. Even jesus humbled himself and allowed John the baptist to baptise saying, "it is fulfil all righteousness". Which means baptism is part of righteousness which we have been commanded to obey.

Awon pastor to ti mu gbana ni eleyi na.

What are u talking about? Righteousness is fulfilled by baptism? You must be joking!!! If Righteousness is by baptism, then Christ died in vain....we don't need Christ then so let's just be dipping ourselves into water and be Righteousness....see how that makes sense to you...

chatinent:
Tell him to talk and justify tithes and offering and see him bite his mouth.


Pharisees!

He doesn't teach tithing to believers neither doesn't he collect tithe from Christians. What are u talking about?

Textra:
My question is strictly for christians who believes in paying of tithes.

Do you finish up your debt first or you pay your tithes and keep looking for another way to pay the debts. What's the guidelines for payment of tithes when one is servicing a loan.

Why do you even have debt(s) if you have been tithing? Where then is the promise of tithing if actually tithing is truth. You should be lending to nations and not in debts.

Bottom line, tithing has nothing to do with making anyone rich. Your pastors have lied to you for too long since you've been tithing, have you or experienced the promises of tithing? The economics of making money and being out of debts has nothing in common with tithing.

Selah!!!

Kobojunkie:
The word "cross" is also used in the Gospels to indicate the personal burdens that we are to bear when we come to Jesus Christ - only those who deny self to pick up there cross and follow Him are worthy of Him. Now, Jesus Christ never indicated this cross/burden as an "altar" of sorts upon which one is to die so how can we rationalize this claim with your claim that cross typified His Death?

My point is the cross is not meant to be worshipped in the name of Jesus Christ since Jesus Christ never asked any man to deity His death nor the mechanism of His Death. Instead He said those who do as He asks are His friends - John 15 vs 14 - where those who do not are His enemies.

Symbolism as used by most in the name of Christ is nothing but idolatry and Jesus Christ warned us against such practices that are not commanded of Him.

I never said the cross is to be worshipped or that type of thing. Those who worship cross as image are doing so in their own ignorance.

The cross TYPIFIED his death and was symbolized in the OT as an altar where he died. Those who understood this knows that it is NOW FULFILLED IN THE NT, no longer to symbol or types or shadows. This cross IS NOW A MESSAGE IN THE NT. That's why I asked you earlier....if you hear or read the cross NOW, what are you thinking about? Wood, stick or his death? That's a mode of communication in the revealed NT that opened up the types, shadows, symbols etc.

I rest my case ooo

Kobojunkie:
His death was not a cross. Jesus Christ is the embodiment of eternal Life - Death was nothing to Him from the beginning - and in giving up His life on the cross, He stood to gain that far greater than a 100 years on earth could have offered Him. So, He willingly gave up his time on earth when He did in order to obtain greater glory.

Also, again I repeat, that His death was for the lost sheep of Israel, the sinners who a locked in under under Old Covenant since it is only by His death that the ransomed was payed to redeem them from their old Covenant debt.

Gentiles instead benefited from His resurrection, redemption from the curse they had always been born into and lived in submission to from the time of Adam.

I'm not arguing with u....its all over scriptures....the cross typified his death. Did he died on the floor or inside water? Didn't he died on the cross? That's a mode of communication. If you don't understand that simple mood of communication im not arguing with you.

Kobojunkie:
There is no such thing. The cross was not left us as a symbol nor a commandment by Jesus Christ.

Instead the cross was 'glorified' by the catholic church, this over 350 years after the death of Jesus Christ, and for this reason many continue to seek ways to mmake an idol of it to this day.

His death on the cross was simply to make the fulfillment of His mission to the lost sheep of Israel - the jews. It was instead the shedding of His blood that marked the beginning of the New Covenant- Matthew 26 vs 26 - 30

When we say the cross, are you thinking about wood or stick or you're thinking about his death?

Altar is a type and shadow of the THE CROSS OF CHRIST in the old testament.

Solsix:
Say what you know, before you curse yourself

Why are you people's mind trained with "curse" all the time sef? What has he said that called for curse? Most everything be curse to you? You better watch your Christianity....there's no curse in Christ only blessing.

Many foreign practices are being introduced to Christianity via mediums and elements of the old covenants. I really don't understand where you people get all these stuffs from that you subtly introduce to church folks to appeal to people's sentiments and emotions.

There's no such ministry gifts as interpretations of dreams in the new testament or covenant. Christ never started it nor the Apostles taught such to interpret dreams. I pray the eyes of your understanding be opened and the revelation of Christ and his finished works be made manifest unto you.

Amen!!!

I really can't understand how our Christianity today has deteriorated to the point of comparing ourselves to the world by comparing our so called net worth to that of the world. It is so irritating to read such from a Christian article.

2. I do listen to him every now and then but im sorry, he's not the best so called preacher according to this article. He's only expressing his gift in the body of Christ. The scriptures doesn't permit me to compare one to another else I'll mention names of Bible teachers in Nigeria with sound doctrines better than him....in all, Paul plants and Apollo waters and the work is done. You guys should stop this nonsense of one person is the best preacher.

3. Many Christians argue for private as such was done in this article as a means of tool to be able to preach the gospel. Please stop this sakamanje and stop patronizing or feeding us with lies. When did private jet became a tool before or to further preaching the gospel? Did Christ or the Apostles had private jets before preaching the gospel? The preaching the man of the article is preaching around now does he have a private jet to do so while he's doing so?

These people make void the word of God BECAUSE OF THEIR HUMAN TRADITIONS AND ALOT OF THEM ARE STILL IN THE OUTER COURT OF THE TERBANACLE, GET INTO THE HOLIES OF HOLY PLACE AND LET GOD BE REVEALED TO YOU.

What in the word is Alter or shoe that was worn to an elevated surface of a ground that you're online making noise about it? Go and see the first time the word Alter appeared in Bible if it was a tiled ground or a beautiful place like the LOC Alter....you're making an issue out of nothing because of ignorance in the first place.

SELAH

You only just spoke about progressive in a bad way and one side of the coin. How about being progressive.....as in being open minded to learn or move away from old traditions of men in a false doctrine to a more sound doctrine supposing you had been fed with major lies in your Christian walk and so as you grow and learn for yourself you get more into sound doctrines of Christ....what do you say to that?

There's milk of the word, meat of the word and bone of the word....when you move up in your study you are progressive in the word and I don't see where the word of God called such kinds sex perverts.....that's your own assumption

If the 10 commandments is different from the law of Moses, how come you break one law is equal to break all?

LordIsaac:
Shall we then continue in sin that grace may abound? He that liveth in sin is of the devil....and if any man be in Christ...

Read the next verse to understand what this verse you quoted is talking about sir....its not talking about sin as a verb, its talking about sin as a noun.

There's difference between sin in the epistles as a VERB and as a NOUN. How do we know that There's difference between sin as noun and sin as a verb? Follow the tenses.....tenses likes continue TO sin is different from continue IN sin...dead TO sin is different from dead IN sin etc.

Be delivered from sin consciousness my brother.

Nice thread was hijacked for 3 whole pages. . It seems alot of us Christians don't understand what God did for us through Christ in His death, burial, resurrection and ascension.

It is sin consciousness that's still making most people argue against the gospel of the Grace (the person and fullness of Christ) of God.

cybersoldiers:
Sons of the devil are on the loose attacking christianity on Nairaland and other sites.

Tithe is a Christian doctrine QED.

If you can't obey doctrine of your faith it means you're faithless and therefore not a Christian.

Tithe also used to fund spreading of the gospel, that's why Muslims and satanidts are fighting it.

Ask yourself this question and answer in your own honesty, then see who and who are true Christians: How many tithes did Christ and the Apostles collected in order to spread the gospel we have today since you're saying tithe is used to fund spreading of the gospel. While you're giving the response kindly put up Bible verses to show that Christ and the Apostles received tithes to fund spreading of the gospel.

Christistruth00:
1 Cor 5. 1-5

1It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that even pagans do not tolerate: A man is sleeping with his father’s wife. 2And you are proud! Shouldn’t you rather have gone into mourning and have put out of your fellowship the man who has been doing this? 3For my part, even though I am not physically present, I am with you in spirit. As one who is present with you in this way, I have already passed judgment in the name of our Lord Jesus on the one who has been doing this. 4 So when you are assembled and I am with you in spirit, and the power of our Lord Jesus is present, 5 hand this man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, a b so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord.


1 Cor 9:27

No, I strike a blow to my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize.

You are quoting scriptures but you're not explaining those scriptures and IT DOESN'T APPLY OR SAID ANYTHING that God leaves or depart a believer when they sin. Even the scriptures you quoted says his spirit shall be saved...

A good father can purnish his children for sins which is what God does but no good father will abandon or leave his children because they sin. Has God left you since the last time you sinned?

Christistruth00:
1 John 5 : 16

16 If you see any brother or sister commit a sin that does not lead to death, you should pray and God will give them life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that you should pray about that. 17 All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to death.

How does this verse relates to Hebrew 13v5?

hecomeshome:
John 15:1-7 contradicts your claim.

That scriptures is addressing Israel and Christ for them to be engraved in Christ. That scriptures ha nothing to do with AFTER THE SPIRIT has been given to reside inside believers. He said, I WILL NEVER LEAVE YOU NOR FORSAKE YOU....meaning NEVER WILL IT HAPPEN...regardless of times and conditions.

Emeka71:
The spirit of God can leave a Christian and then the spirit of Satan shall enter such.

When you receive the Holy Spirit at NEW BIRTH, you're SEALED with the Spirit. Nothing can separate you. It is this same Spirit that's suppose to pick you out of the mess then you mess up. So if that Spirit left, how's he suppose to help you out of the mess?