₦airaland Forum

danilmo:
Are u in this country at all?? Ok assuming if u're the V.P u mean u would have forced Buhari to accept ur advice

I cannot be part of what I don't believe in. The honorable thing to do is to resign. However, Osibanjo has been the one defending his principal in various debate and fora. How is he not part of it?

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Grayoso:
Spare us your attempt at character defamation against Osinbajo. Your motivation is clear because you pretend to be ignorant of the reality all other Nigerians accept and live with to be demaning of Osinbajo what all sane and reasonable folks know he simply cannot deliver.

As an example that ridicules your drivel up there, I can tell you Osinbajo has spoken passionately in favour of State policing and restructuring meaning he would be favourably disposed to implementation both if President.

Now tell us the position of Buhari and his cabal on State policing and restructuring. After doing that, you can then try explaining to Nigerians why Osinbajo is at fault for the inability of the Buhari government to implement State policing and restructuring.

People like you are really annoying because you know the truth yet hate of others must always compromise your thinking and reasoning.

The sad thing is that you actually believe most Nigerians don't know your motivation and what is driving your dedication to politics of hate, pettiness and toxicity.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2021/03/insecurity-state-police-is-way-out-osinbajo/amp/

I laugh when you talked about character assassination. In your widest dream, stating the obvious has become character defamation.

Were you on planet Mars in 2015 when Osibanjo and his boss were singing all over the country that they will create millions of jobs within their first few years in office. This is their sixth year, what has really happened to that promise?

How do you expect me to believe that Prof Osibanjo has spoken passionately about State policing and restructuring when this is outrightly betrayed by his deceitful actions?

In 2018 for example, Osibanjo condemned restructuring as being rhetorical and his stand was overwhelmedly applauded by his party members.

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2018/09/09/apc-backs-osibanjo-on-restructuring/

You should be asking Osibanjo the position of Buhari on State policing and restructuring because he (Osibanjo) has been the one attending debate for his boss.

The evidence before us has shown who the true patriots are.

I hope you will be able to tell us why you had to lie about the intention of Osibanjo about restructuring. Was it motivated by the mere politics of hatred, pettiness and toxicity?
https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2018/09/09/apc-backs-osibanjo-on-restructuring/

Grayoso:
Lol. See painment. Pretty sure you're IPOBian from Abia State.

Unfortunately for you most Nigerians are not into self-deceit and don't see things as you do.

They understand Nigeria's political reality enough to know the failure of Buhari is his alone. Nothing to do with Osinbajo who cannot do anything unilaterally or without the approval of Buhari and even the most junior member of his ruling cabal.

The effort of you IPOBians to discredit Osinbajo is DOA (dead on arrival). Nigerians love him and he is acceptd by all except you hateful and ethnocentric folks. Osinbajo will be President in 2023 100⁶% if Tinubu cannot/will not contest.

Sorry to disappoint you. I am a bini man from Edo State. Can you tell us where you hail from so that we can know who has reasoned along ethnic line?

Can you also tell us how Osibanjo and his boss have faired in the areas of security, cost of living, employment, borrowing, human rights, fight against corruption and economy diversification? These are the issues that are important to Nigerians who are objective.

Who are the Nigerians that have accepted this government that has failed in all fronts? If you enjoy suffering and smiling, many Nigerians who do not pretend don't.

Nigeria is bigger than you, Osibanjo and Tinubu

danilmo:
This one no just get sense..

Oh he should have led coup and dethrone Mr President abi... Or resign and b Politically handicap and fateless like u shey.

Use ur head u say no..

This is the category of people that may have voted in favour of Osibanjo or any other failed politician.

His reason for choosing Prof Osibanjo can never be objective.

I therefore challenge you to tell us how well Osibanjo and his boss have faired in the areas of security, cost of living, employment, human rights, borrowing, economy diversification, and the fight against corruption.

Regrettably, Nigeria can never move forward with a followership that sacrifices objectivity on the altar sentiments.

How on earth can Prof. Osibanjo who is part of the most deceptive and worst government in the history of Nigeria be leading in a presidential poll?

This poll must therefore lack all sense of objectivity with no clear metrics of assessment and voting.

It may equally have been opened to a handful number of participants who are already biased.

It is only under these skewed conditions Osibanjo or any other failed politician can soar high.

GOCEO:
SMH for ur stupidity, the present government has failed but the rot started from dat clueless man, u diz foolish Nigerians dat forgets easily.

Indomie child! How did the rot begin from Jonathan's era? We had Shagari, Buhari(version 1), IBB, Abacha, Abdusallami and OBJ before Jonathan. Were their governments free from corruption?

izzou:


[color=royalblue]Since 1993,

South West - 1999 to 2007 (8 years)
North West - 2007 to 2009 (2 years)
South South - 2009 to 2015 (6 years)
North West - 2015 to 2023 (8 years)

North East - NIL
North Central - NIL
South East - NIL

Yet, the South West needs to rule us again [/color]

Yaradua died in 2010 and Jonathan was sworn in as Acting President on the 6th of May, 2010. I ask: how did 2010 to 2015 become 6 years?

Seeking spiritual direction is good but knowing what to do is better.

To be totally free requires more than knowing the source of our challenge or eliminating the perceived human behind the woes.

Our battles are not carnal but mighty with God pulling down stronghold. What you need is the power of God. Invite God into this issue. It is His fight and never yours.

If your ways pleases God, he will make your enemies to be at peace with you. Please God and see Him takeover the battle. That is all you need to be set free forever.

oyatz:
There's no consensus on where he came from , only Oduduwa himself can truly answer this question.




However, we need to know that human beings have lived in all parts of what we now know as southern Nigeria including Ife, Benin, Ijero, Ire, Ora for thousands of years before Oduduwa was born.

My brother in-law was a member of an Archeological team that excavated the site of an ancient community near Iresi, Osun and they found remains of people who died there 5000 years ago.

Radiocarbon dating showed that the Obelisk at Ife (commonly attributed to Oranmiyan) was constructed around 100AD.

Coins minted by the Roman Empire 2000 years ago have been discovered in Archeological sites in Nigeria

Good to learn about this.

Are you saying that Oduduwa and Oranmiyan are not of Yoruba descent?

oyatz:
The kingdom didn't originate from Yoruba but the incumbent Oba ruling dynasty originated from Oranmiyan, a Yoruba prince and grandson of Oduduwa.

Before Oranmiyan, there was no Oba in the town, instead they had Ogisos. Oranmiyan renamed the town (formerly called Igodomingodo) , Ile Ibinu which was corrupted to Ubinu and later on Bini.

But wait a minute, where did Oduduwa come from?

Mangekyo:
Well the government said they were planning his arrest for months. Which means they were probably keeping a close eye on him even when he was in Britain, maybe with a spy or something. No one is above mistakes. So as it's as you said, they capitalized on it and seized him.
I'm getting reports that he was first arrested by the Kenyan government who then handed him over to the FG.
I don't really know if he's getting out of this one. I mean, it would've been an easy one if he never instructed his men to kill police officers and destroy properties. But again there's no proof that he was the one behind it (UGM). If he can prove that he had no hand in those activities, then nothing will happen to him. The FG won't try anything stupid since Great Britain would be watching from the sidelines. Highest they can do is lock him for a few years because I don't really see any crime he's committed. Mayb untill buharis tenure elapses
If I was ipob, I would sit my ass down and watch what happens not ranting around and throwing insults.

In Law, the onus of proof is on the person that alleges. In this case, it is the Nigerian Government that would need to provide facts to support her claim.

This is not far from "beer parlour" journalism. There is no single fact to support most of the assertions in the write-up.

misano:
I am a Benin man from Egor LGA. Igbesogban Village. I reside at M.M.Way Upper Uwa. Give credit to the governor, he is doing well

I did not criticize Obaseki. Did I?

I only criticized someone who was trying to create an unhealthy rivalry between the esan people and the binis by some unholy juxtaposition.

Jeux:
I have the right to rate every governors that have governed me and I don’t know how that affects you, if you think obaseki has done better than lucky then I ask you to support your claims here by posting obasekis achievements and I will post Lucky Igbinedion projects and if after comparisons obaseki has done up to fifty percent of what lucky did them I will deactivate this my account. About central hospital, between a governor that built and commissioned a 5 star hospital and handed it over to the incoming governor and the incoming governor that closed the hospital and later handed it over to his friend for private use, who deserved to be asked some questions?

You are economical with the truth when we assess and analyze the bolded. If I may ask, what and what made the building Oshiomhole commissioned a five star hospital? Just name one hospital equipment that informed your description.

I am not making excuses for Obaseki either. However, it is proper to say things the way they are. Posterity will judge all of us.

misano:
Guy shut ur mouth. Let people in Edo talk.

I am from Ogbeson Qtrs in Ikpoba-Okha LGA of Edo State. Can you tell me where you hail from in Edo State so that we will know who is really not from the State?

Edo State belongs to Edo people. It is very irresponsible to try to alienate any part of our dear State be it Benin City of Esanland.

Akugbe ó ré étin. (I can write and speak my mother tongue fluently)

Mynd2
Rule 2 violated.
Kindly do the needful so that the cyberspace can have some modicum of upmost decorum.

ihatebuhari:
oh shut the hell up. Is Benin city better than the Esan land?

Kindly ignore him. He is short-sighted.

michaelpop50:
You are very daft to not see the ungratefulness of Obaseki. By the time Obaseki finish with una for that Edo State, una eyes go clear.

At least, he can never steal more than Bob Chicago.

yommen:
See, we the southerners are fools. We talk with our tongues not with brain We understand that the Fulani people are killing our people so that their cattle can feed on our people's farms and yet we still eat their meat. How often do you that you are yabbing yoruba avoid cow meat? I bet you eat it everyday! You get sense at all? Ain't you a naturally born hypocrite with that? And for how long are we going to rely on the north to feed us? Ask yourself, how many millions of people can the food crops produced in your state feed over the next five years?

Yes, the ministry of agriculture has chosen to establish national grazing reserve. Its an opportunity for Yorubas who have the money to tap into the business. The land will still be for the state government most likely or may be federal government which can never be restricted to only Hausas. Yorubas should be involved and learn. Our cows can be more than theirs in these two states and we pick things from there.

You only see things with your tribalistic eyes, no sense.

Yes, it is an opportunity but with a big threat.

After 100 or 200 years, your children will curse this day. By then, the fulanis will have sacked your traditional stool and establish their caliphate.

The Hausa traditional stools and Ilorin come to mind.

If there is no ulterior motive, why a grazing reserve instead of ranching as it is practiced in other civilized clime?

Amazing, Nigeria is dragging the rear with Zimbabwe and Venezuela. The body odour of Bubu is really wonderful!

mightyhaze:
Rice of 6500 as at 2015 is 36000 now..



If that's not a wonder,then I wonder what is.

More than 450% increase in 6 years. Hmmmmn!

It is indeed a wonderful feat. All thanks to our politicians. APC and PDP, una do well o.

CodeTemplar:
be specific jayjayotumokp

@#&?

CodeTemplar:
Who is the bold referring to ?

Referring to your "Men of God" of course. Do you have contrary opinion?

vannessa7:
Giving is only meaningful in the sight of God if you don't have any ulterior motive for it. When you give in order to deceive people to make them like you and praise you or to attract more people to your church or to exchange peoples glory satanically or for any other selfish reason God knows and instead of being blessed for it you get condemned in the sight of God, giving cannot make up for satanism in the sight of God because the greatest sin in the sight of God is idolatry. No wonder Nigeria is getting worst day by day because people support and trust anyone who gives to them even though what they are being given is in exchange for their future and the future of their children. It is not possible for all those other men of God and individuals calling TB Joshua evil to all be lying against him.

I totally agree with you that charity should be done for the sake of charity and never for vain glory. This is the reason I have always reiterated I was never holding brief for T.B. Joshua.

Having said that, christianity cannot be christianity if love and charity are completely missing. I stand to be corrected.

If we x-ray the way of life of our MOG, are they any better than what they demonize T.B. Joshua for - deceit and love for money?

They should judgement to God.

CodeTemplar:
Jay jay O.
When will you grow up and have some sense? Pastors are not farmers whose sole aim is to harvest produce and expend them on feeding the congregation. What TB Joshua was doing is selling of the things of the spirit and giving back little out the abundance it brought him as a way of laundering his image.

Was Peter a farmer when Jesus Christ instructed him to feed His sheep?

You condemn T.B. Joshua for wrong doing. I am not holding brief for him anyway. However, your MOG are doing worse than that and you do not see anything wrong in it. I hail your christianity. My Jesus never stole from His sheep by trick.

CodeTemplar:
Reason like an adult for once. Did Jesus provide the bread that was multiplied? No. Jesus multiplied it.

As for the rich man asked to sell and give to the poor, did Jesus contradict Mathews 6:2-3 in any way there? He asked the man to give in line with Mathews 6:2-3.

I can see you are one of the unstable antichristian elements around here. If you have problem with any man of God call out his name or go meet him one on one instead of acting like it is TB Joshua versus the rest.

You are the one that is reasoning like a toldler. After the multiplication, did Jesus take the bread home? If you cannot see the act of compassion and giving to the needy here, I am afraid, you may not be different from your MOG.

How many of your MOG are feeding the sheep Jesus gave them? I challenge you to name Just one. Then, we will know who is antichristian or unstable.

There is no christianity without charity and love. Jesus Christ went about doing good. Charity revolved around the lives and ministry of the early apostles.

What do we have today? Your MOG are amassing and building there treasures on earth when Jesus Christ instructed us otherwise.

CodeTemplar:
Feeding of thousands was a miracle. Stop exposing your illiteracy level.

You are the one that is exposing your ignorance here.

The multiplication is a miracle but taking care of their need is a charitable work.

What about the rich man Jesus instructed to sell all he had and give to the poor (the needy) and not to Him or the Pharisees? What is that called? Is that a miracle as well?

How about the early church that brought what they had for their common good? Is that also a miracle?

Why are your MOG not following this footprint? Jesus Christ personally instructed Peter to feed His sheep. Your MOG are only feeding their interest. Why are they not following the examples laid by Jesus Christ and the early apostles?

You can only deceive yourself and your gullible followers.

CodeTemplar:
Jay Jay O.
Mathews 6:2-3 is there for all who want the truth. No where was it recorded where charity was done by Jesus openly.He did mighty works of miracles, healing and deliverance openly but not open charity. It is clear your association with TB Joshua is stronger than anything you ever claimed to have with Jesus.

What about the feeding of 4000 and 5000 people? Was it done in the secret? Jesus saw the need and he did not deny them even when one of His disciples tried to dissuade him.

I don't know T.B. Joshua. I have never attended any of his services or programmes. However, you cannot take away his humility and charitable work especially to the poor. I am not saying he did not have his shortcomings. If only our MOG can be this kind to the poor in our society, Nigeria would have been a better place.

On different occasions, Jesus fed 4000 and 5000 people. He told the rich man to sell all he had and give to the poor. Jesus never owned any property. He went about doing good and showing compassion. The same was replicated by the early apostles.

What we have today are MOG milking their gullible followers. The very poor among them cannot afford the tuition payable in the schools they have so built with offerings and tithes collected from their congregation. These schools are registered in their names and that of their wives and children. They are all competing over having the highest number of private jets and the biggest auditorium abandoning charity work that should have been the fundamental function of any religious body. Jesus Christ specifically told Peter to feed His sheep. Now I ask: Is that the Good News Jesus Christ or the early apostles brought to us?

T. B. Joshua is not perfect just like you and me. But he did not milk his congregation the way your MOG are doing. I would rather choose a T.B. Joshua over those thieves parading themselves as MOG.

CodeTemplar:
I cannot go against the scripture to satisfy your worldly lust. I stick with Jesus and not some TB Joshua.

You can only deceive yourself and those who cannot read and comprehend. The Bible has been made accessible to all and sundry. The Holy Spirit is also accessible to everyone.

I don't need you nor any MOG to know what is right and wrong. You and your MOG can only deceive those that are gullible.

Charity and love are fundamental ingredients in the Good News that Jesus Christ brought to us. The lives of the early apostles also radiated these virtues.

Keep deceiving yourself with T.B. Joshua. Charity and humility were part of the life he lived. Humanity will always remember him for this. How many of your MOG can measure up in this regard?

I cannot be deceived by you and your "pastorpreneurs".

CodeTemplar:
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How can I name one person who gives more when the right and left hands aren't suppose to know what's happening between them?

The good things Jesus did spoke for Him.

The charitable work of T.B. Joshua is speaking for him even after his death.

Name your MOG whose charitable work is more than that of T.B. Joshua.

I challenge you to name just one.

CodeTemplar:
According to Jesus, the right hand shouldn't know when the left is doing charity. People who give much more than TB Joshua gave exists everywhere.

Name just one among the MOG.