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obailala:
Yours is in his village

I don't have a man like me as a messiah.

obailala:
I didnt vote in 2015 or 2019, but yes, I openly supported PMB in 2015 over GEJ. Even with what I know of PMB today, if we're sent back in time to 2015, I wouldnt still support GEJ's continuation; the only thing I'd do differently would be to abstain from the elections completely (like I did in 2019). I'd never reinforce or reward failure with continuity. Feel free to keep wailing in my mentions for your GEJ.

We have agreed that we both did not vote for Buhari and Jonathan.

Now, I want an honest truth from you.
Who is better between Jonathan and Buhari? Jonathan or Buhari?

obailala:
Doesnt mean I should have stuck with your messiah after seeing his own failures.

Your messiah to embark on a 20-day vacation trip to the UK. I hope you are travelling with him.

obailala:
Doesnt mean I should have stuck with your messiah after seeing his own failures.

Jonathan is not my messiah. I did not vote for him. Same cannot be said about you. You voted for Buhari because he is your messiah.

obailala:
What was this his antecedent with 'security'? Please remind me...

Your messiah in security affairs has done it again.

I thought you said he would lead from the front.

https://politicsnigeria.com/breaking-bandits-attack-buharis-home-state/amp/

I have copied and paste yet another antecedent of your saint Buhari with no record of insecurity.

I will transmit a story of how he disciplined a former military Head of State (Buhari) and prevented what could have led to the Nigerian second civil war.

It was on 13 October 2000, when words went round that General Muhammadu Buhari was leading the Arewa team to the governor’s office to confront the state over alleged killings of Fulani cattle rearers in Saki, Oke Ogun Area of the state. Buhari did actually telephone the governor that he was leading a team to his office.

In less than 30 minutes after the general informed the governor of his visit, we noticed that the entire secretariat was already filled with lorry loads of our brothers from the North. This created some tension but we kept our calm. At about 2 p.m., Buhari arrived in a long convoy at the governor’s office in company of the former governor of Lagos State, General Buba Marwa, Alhaji Aliko Muhammed, Alhaji Abdulrazak and Alhaji Hassan. They all wore long faces. In fact, the anger in them was palpable as all pleasantries extended to them were ignored. “This is trouble” was the expression on the faces of all of us in the governor’s office.

Shortly afterwards, the state Director of State Security Service (SSS) and Commissioner of Police arrived. But their presence did not change anything particular on the fears that had already gripped majority of us. The two security chiefs did not come with any operatives, they came almost alone.

The meeting was called to order after Lam walked into the Executive Chambers. Introductions over, Buhari spoke on their mission to the governor’s office. Emitting fire, the general accused Lam and the government of Oyo State of complicity in the killing of over 68 Fulani people in Oke Ogun area and perversion of justice.

His words: “Your Excellency, our visit here is to discuss with you and your government our displeasure about the incident of clashes between two peoples… the Fulani cattle rearers and merchants are today being harassed , attacked and killed like in Saki. In the month of May, 2000, 68 bodies of Fulani cattle rearers were recovered and buried under the supervision and protection from a team of Mobile Police from Oyo State Command.

“ That some arrests were made by Oyo State Police Command in the massacre with their immediate release without court trial. This was said to have been ordered by Oyo State authorities and they were so released to their amazement. The release of the arrested suspects gave the clear impression that the authorities are backing and protecting them to continue the unjust and illegal killings of Fulani cattle rearers…”

According to the general, they therefore wanted immediate stoppage of the killings, justice and compensation to the Fulanis.

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As weighty and indicting as Buhari’s allegations were, Lam remained unperturbed. He fired back with his own well coordinated arsenals.

Lam identified all the points raised by Buhari and simply asked the heads of the organizations directly involved to respond to the allegations.

First to speak was the Commissioner of Police who debunked all the claims. Instead of the allegation that the natives were killing Fulanis, the commissioner said pointedly that the opposite was the case.

“ The killing of the natives by the Fulanis was duly reported to the police and, of course, we can’t make arrest because, as soon as they kill, they migrate to other areas. Who are you going to arrest? That is the problem”. On the killing of Fulanis, which he said was as result of “piled up anger”, the commissioner disclosed that arrests had been made and the suspects were in police custody.

Next was the Director of SSS, who equally debuked the allegations by Buhari. “The natives don’t have problem with the Fulanis who are resident but those who are coming in, they don’t care about anybody. They just go ahead and when they graze the natives farms, whoever cares to challenge them runs into trouble. You said 68 people were killed , and people driven away. I am not saying there were no killings but they cannot be more than five. The petition is on the harsh side, there is nothing like that.”

Not done yet, Lam called in his Deputy, Barrister Iyiola Oladokun; his SSG, Chief Michael Koleoso, both from Oke Ogun, and the chairman of one of the affected local government areas, Mr Ademola Alalade. They stated the true position of things, corroborating the submissions of the security chiefs. At this point, all the tensions and apprehensions evaporated.

Trust Lam any day, he must rub it in. He spoke for about 20 minutes and the generals were at the edge of their seats for the entire period. They were like chicken that had just been thoroughly beaten by the rain.

Lam said: “Before I thank you for this visit, you have come to tell me something. I also want to tell you something and that something is to make an appeal. General Buhari has been a former Head of State, Brigadier Marwa has governed Lagos for some time and with credibility… so you are national leaders of this country. Even though, by accident of birth, you are from the North, you can be born anywhere; may be next time when I am coming to the world, I will be born in the North or the South-South.

“My appeal will be that effort must be made to unite this country and that will be ïn the best interest of all Nigerians. I am appealing to the Arewa Consultative Forum, under which auspices our distinguished Nigerians are here; in recent times, they have been sending wrong signals to a number of us who believe in the unity and peace of Nigeria; you have been too critical of the efforts of the Federal Government. I am saying this because Nigeria, at this point, cannot afford to break and the words you northern leaders utter are very weighty, at the South here, we normally analyze them critically”.

On all the allegations, he said: “From what they have written in the petition, this government is completely blameless because we don’t interfere either with the judiciary or with the police functions. I always preach peaceful co-existence in Oyo State and Nigeria as a whole. We are all Nigerians and that is what we have been preaching all along and we shall continue to be Nigerians , no matter the present or immediate problems which will be solved by the grace of Allah.

“I want to say also that we really have to appeal to our people, the itinerant Bororo people, that they should observe less aggression. It is not good , it is not right just coming from somewhere then you just pass through farm lands cultivated may be with the person’s life savings and then over night everything is gone. That is not right, even Allah does not approve of that.

We even wonder when they talk about this people carrying dangerous weapons, I say do they really believe in Allah? When you just take life like that and go away! Are we not forbidden not to take human life? So I think General Buhari, General Marwa, you have to be educating them… It is my pleasure to inform you that at the Presidential Lodge, we have made some arrangements for refreshments so that before you go we can refresh together”.

Buhari and his team did not wait for any refreshments. They came in angry and left bewildered. ADIEU! GREAT LAM!

This piece was first published on November 18, 2012.

obailala:
What was this his antecedent with 'security'? Please remind me...

Salad is served, Indomie Generation. This is Buhari you knew nothing about prior to 2015.

I have copied and paste some for you

Buhari is a coup plotter. He plotted a coup that ousted a democratically elected president. No civilised democratic society would elect the likes of Buhari as President, the same individual who overthrew an elected President. Before you give me that excuse of his plotting a coup due to corruption, remember that ALL coup plotters alleges their main reason is because politicians are corrupt and there has been break down of law & order. For Buhari to president is like asking a pirate who hijacked your ship & sank it, to become a captain to lead a rescue mission for the ship.

Buhari is an ethnic bigot, as part of his tribalistic practices, he placed President Shagari under house arrest inside a palatial mansion in Ikoyi but he locked up Shagari's vice, Alex Ekwueme in Kirikiri. Shagari is an Hausa/Fulani like him while Alex Ekwueme is an Igboman. This action of jailing Ekwueme is ethnically fired!

Buhari jailed Fela Anikulapo -Kuti on trumped up charges under emergency law which prompted the sentencing judge to confess that he was ordered to do so and apologised to Fela. It was Buhari's administration that said it has "decided to deal with this Fela problem once and for all.

Buhari locked up politicians without trial, and his critics not just Fela who was notorious for clamouring for the exposure of the oil money rogue. Mrs. Vera Ifudu, who was an NTA reporter then, was sacked through his prodding as military ruler, for reporting what Dr. Olusola Saraki had told her in an interview about how the missing money was traced to Buhari’s account at Midland Bank London branch. Vera eventually won her case of wrongful dismissal in court against the NTA and was financially compensated.

Dim Emeka Odimegwu Ojukwu, who returned from 13 years exile, just a little over a year then was as well locked up in Kirikiri Prison by Buhari. Up till today we were not told what his offence was.

Buhari ransacked the house of Chief Obafemi Awolowo and confisticated his International passport. We were not told what Awolowo did till date.

He convinced all the northern political leaders against allowing the National Identity Card program because this would unravel d myth of Northern population majority.

Buhari is an oligarch who does not believe in equality before the law. He jailed Chief Lateef Jakande, Mr. Jim Nwobodo, Ambrose Ali, Adekunle Ajasin, Ayo Ojewumi on cases that have no basis. Ayo Ojewumi became blind as a result of his imprisonment over false charges and died shortly after. Prof. Ambrose Alli also became blind as a result of this false imprisonment. Adekule Ajasin was never the same after his eventual release and remained sickly for the rest of his life.

Buhari allowed Awwal Ibrahim (Niger State governor), who was arrested in Heathrow Airport in London with 14 million pounds sterling and several millions of Niara & dollars to be under house arrest.

He put in place a retroactive law that killed three (innocent) men by public execution. But he left untouched Ibrahim Babangida, an alleged well known drug baron who later overthrew his government.

Buhari jailed Ndukar Irabor and Tunde Thompson of the Guardian Newspaper on stories that were factually true under Decree 4 and told the Nigerian journalists then that it did not matter whether the story reported was true or not, if his regime did not like it, d writer would go to jail.

Busari Adelakun died of ulcer because Buhari refused him to be taken out of prison the immediate medical attention. The then Gov. of Ogun State, Bisi Onabanjo suffered similar fate which we were told led to his untimely death.

Buhari jailed Sam Mbakwe, went for one of Mbakwe's wives too. He established himself again for what he was/is by letting Mbakwe receive the news of the death of another of Mbakwe's two wives while in prison.

Buhari's henchman and sponsor, CPC governorship candidate for Kano State in 2011, was Mohammed Abacha – the same person that ran a personal killing squad, coordinated the killing of Kudirat Abiola and attempted to kill Mr. Alex Ibru.

Buhari is unforgiving. When he was in power in 1983, he remembered an article written long time ago by Bisi Onabanjo titled, "the Mallams are coming" and a later one in which Onabanjo wrote people should watch out for that "gangly officer from the north" after Buhari gave a no holds barred speech at some Army function where he was reported to be very openly pro-Fulani and pro-Islam to the exclusive of all else and also talked about termination of democratic rule. Onabanjo got a harsh jail terms and treatments.

Buhari supervised the smuggling of 53 suitcases filled with cash against the protests of General Tunde Idiagbon and ironically, Abubakar Atiku, former Director General of the Customs, a compromised politician who later became the Vice President. The smuggling was supervised by Buhari's ADC, Col. Mustapha Jokolo.

Buhari is an Islamic fundamentalist. His ascendancy to the presidential seat will be a booster for his likes. He probably tried to let us know he is not a religious bigot by picking Bakare as a running mate in 2011. But, it doesn't change anything.

Buhari was in full support of all the atrocities of Sani Abacha against the Nigerian people. There is no single record of his criticism of Sani Abacha during those dark days when Nigeria was on precipice. It shows that he is a patriot of convenience and as such unfit to lead the country. Apathy and evil work hand in hand. They are the same basically. Evil wills it, apathy allows it, and apathy - is not bothered so long as it is not personally inconvenienced.

We should never to be silent whenever and wherever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides.

Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented- Elie Weisel. Buhari is not Boko Haram, but he, like so many of the rest of the Northern leaders including the sultan have not openly and seriously condemned the activities of members of Boko Haram. Being silent in the midst of another's suffering, even when your in a position to speak against it, you are either tacitly supporting the evil and/or in fact enjoying it.

Buhari has never been able to account to Nigerians what he did with the 20 billion Naira of the PTF of which he was the chairman under Sani Abacha and has not been able to point to any project that he prosecuted outside the North with the trust fund. Buhari discriminated against persons from other ethnic groups; as PTF Chairman, he employed an overwhelming number of Fulani/Hausa/Moslem at the detriment of other groups and concentrated PTF projects in the North. El Rufai testified to this, when he wrote about Katsina boys who used the money they made at PTF to bankroll Yar'Adua's election in 1999.

To add insult to injury, Buhari snubbed the same Nigerians he now wants their votes by refusing to appear before Justice Oputa Truth and Reconciliation Panel. Buhari knew how important reconciliation is to the stability of democracy. He has never apologised at anytime. This is the same way CPC loyalists massacred and lynched Nigerian youth corpers after the last election. A refined politician is expected to tender an apology on behalf of the ignorant loyalists. Buhari refused to apologise. He argued that the mob were angry because election was rigged. Is that sufficient to take the life of another? Buhari forgot or pretended to have forgotten CPC rigged the election too by registering under aged voters. He who comes to equity must come with clean hands and he who seeks equity must do equity. Buhari concentrated on allegations of rigged election rather than on human life.

The three men executed by Buhari were Lawal Ojuolape (30), Bernard Ogedengbe (29) and Bartholomew Owoh (26). One of those three – Ogedengbe - was executed for a crime that did not carry capital punishment at the time it was committed. Killing people with retroactive laws is not a civilised thing to do. It is murder and same as Aluu 4 incident.

obailala:
I'm not here to compare any achievements with you. I told you clearly before, Jonathan was an incompetent and useless president and deserved to go! So I had no reservations opting for something different.

I never told you Buhari's 7 years has been any better if that's what your problem is. With the level of insecurity then creeping into Abuja and moving down south, and with the nonchalance of the president then, it was only reasonable to try something different, especially since the alternative had at least a military background. I wasnt going to reward failure with an extension simply because of the fear of the unknown.

Nobody asked you to reward failure with anything. Replacing failure with a worse failure is not acceptable by all standard. Buhari's antecedents are not new. There nothing like an unknown here. You were aware of his failure, yet, you still went ahead to elect him. You are simply rewarding failure that you claim to be against.

obailala:
No, your type is the reason Nigeria has been irredeemable since 1960; electing, promoting and elongating the reign of useless leaders over and over again on the most flimsy excuses. Can you tell me one damn reason why Jonathan deserved a second tenure?

If you had ever lost a loved one to terrorist attacks in Abuja and watched as the then president was so incompetent and nonchalant about it, you wouldnt be here calling those who chose to try something else (an exmilitary man) "foolish".

It is either you lack understanding or you like arguing in a circle. I never said Jonathan is the best thing after sliced bread. I will only say it for the last time. Jonathan is miles better than Buhari. 7years of Buhari's administration has proved us right. If you think otherwise, let us compare their achievements.

obailala:
Given Nigeria's political structure, there were only 2 candidates from the only 2 serious political parties at the time. Also given the horrible security situation at the time, and the sheer incompetence of the last govt in handling the insecurity, it clearly seemed like the only pragmatic choice to try a new hand. A lot of people clearly forget how boko haram was releasing bombs almost every other week even in the centre of Abuja. That needed to be checked, and that endeared many to the idea of trying a new option who was at least seen as ex-military.

So yes, the new hand may have failed today, but given the situation at the time, I feel absolutely no regrets for my decision at the time to boot out the former guy and try something different.

Your kind is the reason Nigeria is irredeemable. Even Professor Soyinka is now denying ever supporting this misfit.

I cannot share an organisation with someone who would rather base critical decisions on nothing. Your choice of Buhari over Jonathan was not on competence. Buhari invalidates any semblance of competency.You just wanted something not Jonathan. Whether the person is insane or not is none of your concern. This is nothing but f**lishness.

obailala:
Just a point of correction above. Very many people fell in that category; i.e. the category of people who were sick and tired of the incompetence and nonchalance and lootocracy of GEJ's admin. Oh yes, Buhari ended up being worse; just a dead piece of wood, but that doesnt invalidate the reasons a lot of people chose to prioritise 'giving Jonathan the boot' over everything else. Not everyone is tribal.

I can't find any wisdom in jumping from frying pan to fire. The latter is far worse. Running from incompetence to a far worse situation; is that the category you belong? No wonder, Nigeria is in a sorry situation. There were better candidates, why did your category not go for them if really you were running from incompetence?

tesppidd:
You still don't get the logic here.

Hindsight is such a beautiful thing. It is very easy and cowardly to wait for something to happen first, then point your finger and say "see, i told you so!"

Buhari defeated Gej for a reason in 2015.

And trust me you are not smarter than the majority who decided Gej had to go

And that Buhari even with his antecedent was a better option.
Like i said hindsight is so beautiful. Cowards love hindsight, they brag with it..

And stop acting like Gej and Buhari were some hardcore administrators or intellectuals who mastered their fields or something..

Nothing like that.

Nigeria has never had a good leader.. just a bunch of mediocres who surround themselves with tons of advisers..

The only difference between Gej's regime and Buhari's regime is that in the former many many people were looting and looted money was going round but in the former dew people are looting and money isn't going round.

That's the summary. In terms of intellectual capacity neither Gej nor Buhari is up to average.

They are both very incompetent presidents.. so dont ask me shiit about qualities...

Finally back to the main subject, most people who still opted to vote gej over any candidate in 2015 did that not out of any qualities or whatever,,,,

But did it out of ethnic, religious or material sentiments... People like Reno...

Buhari roundly beat Gej for a reason..

Forget about hindsight, it was a stone over Gej in 2015

How was Buhari a better option? Capacity wise, health ground or past achievements, where was Buhari better ?

It was only a stone over GEJ for those that were blinded by religion and ethnicity. Buhari, as at 2015, had nothing to offer.

But you were among those that sold him to Nigerians.

Nvestor02:
If we were to be honest, we should know that PDP is the foundation of Nigeria problem.... No wonder Nigerians knock them out in 2015.

Are you saying that Nigeria was heaven on earth in 1991? Are you also saying that there is no poverty in Osun or Zamfara?

Kindly remove honesty from your statement because there is nothing honest about it.

That is about 99.7 Billion Naira deficit. This is not good at all especially when there is nothing substantial to account for this unusual imbalance.

Hahaha! Let sanity and decorum return to our political space. The fear of being sacked by the court is the beginning of political wisdom.

chloride6:
How is the current law incompatible with the 30 day rule? If you resign 1 year before elections, havent you resigned at least 30 days before the election?

No, you have not. Resignation at least 1 year before the elections and 30days are miles apart.

Nevertheless, all the politicians are careless about you and me. I am only calling a spade a spade.

chloride6:
How is the current law incompatible with the 30 day rule? If you resign 1 year before elections, havent you resigned at least 30 days before the election?

No, you have resigned at least 1 year before elections.

Olunmercy56:
For where? So that we will be sitting at home doing nothing? No going out unless you want to see your head off and your properties destroyed? No!

How?

They are all fighting for their interest.

buckeyemedia:
Mumurist don’t know that only a person who took part in the election can be sworn in as Governor,

No where in the Constitution provides the swearing in of a nominee Governor by the Chief Judge of the State.

Best they would do, is withdraw pdp’s mandate & give it to APC that came Second.

How did Bello of Kogi State become governor after the death of Audu?

He has nothing innovative to offer.

ThEGodFaThEr124:
The president and chairman of the ceremony____arrived.
(a) was (b) have (c) were (d) has.

has

Steep:
what I addressed is how do I know I have the right gospel. Not the fruit of salvation, of which you were not clear.

Your initial response failed to address the question of how to know whether you have heard and believed the Goodnews by Jesus Christ. Moreover, reading the bible does not necessarily mean that you have believed what is written there in. There lies our argument.

Steep:
The bible, my friend. The bible reveals christ.
I
I search the scriptures to see if what I heard where true, that is how I knew.

So it is the reading of the bible that justifies and not your fruit anymore.This is really weird I must say.

Steep:
free from sin does not mean one don't have the capacity to commit sin, it means one is removed from those who are guilty to suffer eternal condemnation and also regenerated spiritually.
This is made possible through Jesus Christ.

John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

How do you know that you have heard and believed the Goodnews by Jesus Christ ?

Steep:
To be free from sin or guilt.
Psalms 32:2 Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.

How do you know you are free from sin or guilt?

Bettykeys:
Mumu piigs from Beerfraud trying so hard to defend failure as their lord and savior
If Jonathan and PDP had performed to the maximum satisfaction would their be need for a change ?

Mumu hav forgotten so quick, do you realise how may billions of naira was recover from Madam Peace ?
Do you knw how many billions of dollar that Diezani make way with ?

Jonathan is a real definition of monumental failure

What then is the definition for Buhari?

EXOUSIAng:
Oga use your brain na.
If they were paying N3000 before paying union charges before now they have to pay just N800
Doesnt that reduce what they usually pay daily....

Oga, use your brain too. If really you reduced the levy burden for drivers, why are you scared that transportation fare charged by these drivers will be raised?

xelly:
You are wrong bro. check your calculations.

How?

24.24% decrease in 660M will amount to

(100% - 24.24%) * 660M
= 75.76% * 660M
= (75.76/100) * 660M
= 0.7576 * 660M
= 500M

Show me how 32% decrease in 660M will amount to 500M

xelly:
No need talking. provided you are happy with what you believe.

It is not about what I believe but about what is right. It will be very disappointing if those computation came from CBN.