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@hannibal

i see no one is going to win this. you are a fan of biggie, im a fan of Tupac. i no we can atleast agree that we are true supporters of a wonderful genre. i hope you stay a respectable fan and keep defending your beliefs.

Touche.

@ Javaprince,

Hit 'Em Up was a classic but it's not about shouting on top of one's voice.
Biggie had his own battle songs too . . . .Who Shot Ya. . . .Not as popular as Hit Em Up but then the delivery was top drawer

@ Doyin13,

At this rate, u would have Daddy Fresh, Daddy Showkey plus Junior n Pretty in ur top 10.

Stilly,

U like Sade?? Nah. . . . . . .Tell me u didn't mean that.
A fan of Meatloaf and Aerosmith cannot like Sade.

@ Doyin13,

For the 1st time in many months, u surprised me.

I was actually expecting to see MC Hammer, Ruggedman and Eedris on your list.
Chuck-D, Mos Def and Genius of WU-TANG??  What about RZA and Ol' Dirty Bastard??
Those are the heartbeat of WU.

@ Onyinye2,

I don't even have the verve to put out lyrics of Biggie out but any Rap head would tell u he flows better than Pac.
He was so talented he never wrote his rhymed or carried a note-pad to the studio. . . .It was in the HEAD.
Just give Biggie Smallz 2 puffs of weed and a beat he can rap to. . . . .The rest is HISTORY.

@ Doyin13,

Canibus is gifted but his packaging is ill. . . . .
It's like Fernando Torres in Athletico Madrid. . . You can see his talents but he was never gon' reach his max potential in Spain.
Canibus can SPITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT . . . . . . This Nigga killed LLCoolJ like i would kill mosquitoes with ma bare hands.

50 Cent . . . .He is the future of Rap(Hate him or Love him).
Eminem is the mixture of Pac and Big. . . .Cheeky lyrics, overly explicit and he took Rap into a whole new dimension.
Everyone was getting bored with 2Pac imitators like DMX,  Ja Rule and other loud-ass noise makers.

@ Onyinye2,

Biggie was Xerxes(god-king).

When I die, Bleep it I want to go to hell
Cause I'm a piece of shit, it ain't hard to fuckin' tell
It don't make sense, goin' to heaven wit the goodie-goodies
Dressed in white, I like black Timbs and black hoodies

God will probably have me on some real strict shit
No sleepin' all day, no gettin my manliness licked
Hangin' with the goodie-goodies loungin' in paradise
Bleep that shit, I want to tote guns and shoot dice

All my life I been considered as the worst
Lyin' to my mother, even stealin' out her purse
Crime after crime, from drugs to extortion
I know my mother wished she got a fuckin' abortion

She don't even love me like she did when I was younger
Suckin' on her chest just to stop my fuckin' hunger
I wonder if I died, would tears come to her eyes?
Forgive me for my disrespect, forgive me for my lies

This is the REALEST shit i have heard from one individual. . . . . . and this was as far back as 1994.

chiogo:
Well, that's your top 10 which i mostly agree with by the way. But hey, that might not be America's top 10. You mentioned somewhere that Nas won in the MC battle because 'America voted'. This "America" that is voting is just a group of about five or 6 people, you know. Did u watch the last MTV top 10 MC? Lil' Wayne won. I don't find him anywhere on your list. See, i don't mind if y'all think Nas is better than jigga (am indecisive) but u saying "America voted" is biased on your part because everybody knows America is filled with injustices. When they say "America", it cld be just one person representing the whole of this America which contains over 300 million people. Just think about that.

Lil' Wayne?
Puhleeeeeeaze, we are talking about the ALL TIME GREATS not some buncha chewing gum rap artistes. . . .

The Jigga Vs Nas battle was followed by a large army of audience. . . . They were fighting crown of KING OF NEW YORK.
Over 300,000 people voted on Hot 97 to determine the WINNER.
There was no injustice whatsoever. . . . .Nasir spits more lyrics than the full-lipped Jigga man.

@ Onyinye2,

Nah. . . . .

Please compare "99 problems" to "Criminal" and get back to me.

doyin13:
Here we go. . . . .the seminal 2pac vs Biggie argument.

For all its worthI think each had their strong suit. For subject matter, display of emotion, 2PAC was it.

But for sheer rap talent, flow, delivery, wordplay - - - - - - -it was Biggie hands down.

I agree with you.

To 2pac, the word is deployed as a tool, to display emotions and his frustrations. . . .
To Biggie, the word is an ornament, to be polished with hues of shine, delivery and using metaphors in the most unlikely contexts. . . .

Biggie said. . . .  Welcome to ma center. . . . Honies feel me deep in they placenta, Cold as the pole in the winter. . . .
How audacious can a rapper get? Biggie Smallz was too grandiloquent.
Biggie was god.


@ Onyinye2,

One word for you. . . . . .Go and listen to Renegade on BLUEPRINT.
Even Jigga accepted Eminem killed him on his own song.
Don't mess with the white dude. . . . . . .He is the most lyrically gifted rapper alive(skip his white skin and lets get REAL).

Top 10 Rap Artistes . . . .

1) Notorious B.I.G.
2) Tupac Shakur
3) Eminem
4) Nas
5) Jay-Z
6) 50
7) Canibus
DMX
9) Lauryn Hill
10) Snoop Dogg.

Top 10 Rap Albums.

1) All Eyez On Me.
2) Ready To Die
3) Life After Death
4) Marshal Mathers LP
5) Illmatic
6) Get Rich Or Die Tryin'
7) The Chronic
Doggystyle
9) Blueprint
10) It's Dark And Hell Is Hot.

doyin13:
well its your prerogative how you choose to constitute your top 10

but jus for curiosity sake. . . .and to enlighten us with your expansive hiphop knowledge
what makes your top 10?

Top 10 Artistes or Top 10 Albums??

@ Doyin13,

Make that $400,000.

$400 million??  I would walk naked from me house to Trafalgar square with such money.
Are u shitting me?

@ Chiogo,

Those talks are your dreams. . . . .Fiddy still sells crack.
Lloyd Bank does it for him or Olivia puts it in her bra for him. . . . . .Thats all fantasy talks.

Of course, there's always a leader in any group.
Sisqo in Dru Hill. . . .Beyonce in Destiny's Child, Nicole in pussycat dolls and now Fiddy in G-unit.
Should i deduce from your theory that Kelly Rowlands hide heroin in her wig for Beyonce thus her enormous wealth??

@ Doyin13,

Don't put your mortgage on it.

If i put up the list of the greatest Rap albums ever now. . . 36 Chambers won't be in the TOP 10.
I can assure u here that Ready 2 Die will def'ly make the TOP 3.
People didn't realise the strength of the album until Biggie died. . . . .
It is so difficult to replicate by all these cheap imitators crowning themselves King of NY. . . . .

No wonder Can-I-Bus said . . . . The greatest rapper of all time died on March 9th.

@ Doyin13,

No brainer . . . . . . I laugh in Swahili.

When Fiddy was investing in the water business some years ago. . . . Many felt he was becoming a nuisance.
3 years later, it paid massive dividends. . . . .A whooping $400 million dollar cheque( Not even Oprah makes that in 2 years).

Besides, he bought Mike Tyson's house in Connecticut for $4 million in 2005.
Today, that house is worth $25 million and buyers are scrambling and outbidding each other to get the crib.
Is this business or not?

@ Chiogo,

None of em G-unit guys can stoop so low again to sell cheap drugs around the corner.
The story has now changed from dirty money to cool money . . . . . . .
Money they can spend without em looking over their shoulders.

syren:
No one's talking about banning rap, it deserves a place in the music industry like every other genre, but rap just isn't what it used to be.   And why does drugs and crime have to be their only other option. Sure their poor, but that's no excuse to become a criminal.

Whats the quickest way to make money when one is uneducated??
They know fully well the government don't really give a damn about em(The SKIN is their SIN). . .
Slanging 'caine is the only way out of HELL. . . . . .The men do drugs, the women go into whoring.
End of.

chiogo:
Hahahaa, most of 'em still sell crack even though they now rap. How do you think they are so rich?? from just rapping? nah, roflmfao.

They don't sell crack after blowing up into stardom.
These rappers are now rich because of their wise investment and tactical nous. . . . .
50 cent picked $400 million from Coca-Cola last year when he sold his vitamin water to them. . . Is that drug money??
Babes, u have been watching too much of SCARFACE, confess now.

@ Doyin13,

Don't be naive.

An average American citizen carry arms for protection. . . .How much more these rappers that are targeted by psychopaths??
Whatz wrong in em carrying guns? Em guns are for protection, bozo.

@ Doyin13,

The album sales would be a better judge of that. . . . .
A debutant Rap artiste took the whole world by storm in spite of his UGLINESS. . . . . It shoulda been the 9th wonder of the world.
Biggie Smalls was so ahead of his time. . . .
When he sparred with Meth on "The What"(Ready 2 Die). . . .Meth commended Biggie that he was indeed the messiah of the East Coast.
Lookie, Biggie was the King Of New York. . . . .The same state where the WU hails from. . .
Do u need a tablet PC to decipher that?

Senor, go and sleep.

The Sly:
Abeg lets call a spade a spade. .
Sex and Make love is most definitely the same.

I agree with you.

Sex, Bleep, Shag and Making love are all sexual intercourse that involves the genitals of male and female species.
Whether they are emotionally induced or not should be left for the weak-hearteds.
Ma point is what makes SEX ME palatable and Bleep ME evil?

@ Javaprince,

I disagree with u as it depends on the individual.

Trust me, i have learnt more from Rap than formal education.
I grew up listening to it and the ultimate decision is left to me whether to slang crack/'caine on the boulevard or just pinch the positive stuffs.

Before Rap music, there was violence. . . . .
Thankfully, there was no Rap music in the Holocaust. . . . .People like you woulda blamed it on Rap.
There are good and bad music everywhere. . . .Using Rap music as an excuse for what kids do these days is a tad moronic.

doyin13:
Saved by Google eh Jackal. . . . . . .

Well if you know your wu tang, I would hope you would place 36 chambers above Ready to Die

But I am suspicious of your credentials considering you think FIDDY is the greatest thing to
happen to rap in recent times.

Me? Jackal/Hannibal googling Rap? You gotta be kidding me.

Wu-Tang is a group of 9 Sholin lyricists. . . . .
How can we compare a rap group to a solo artiste? It seems u dunno your Rap.

I am not saying Fiddy is the greatest lyrically or inspires solitary minds. . . .
All i said was. . . . .His ascendancy was super-rapid. . . . .If only Mike Tyson and 2pac had such visison. . . They woulda been better off.
His story was the classic tale of: RAGS TO RICHES.

@ Javaprince,

What is inspirational in R-n-B, Rock and Country music.
It's all the same game. . . . . .R.Kelly can say "SEX ME". . . . .Boyz II Men can sing "I'LL MAKE LOVE TO You but 50 cent CANNOT sing 'Bleep You.
The last time i checked, they all mean the same thing BUT because this is not a genre the white guys can really dabble intoIt's HATED.

Now, Rap music should be banned so these kids who never had anything they wanted can return to selling crack and toting guns.
It's shameful how the minds of Black Men have been genetically enslaved to believe what the white men tells em.
This is the same issue with HARD DRUGS . . . .it's a posion because the white men cannot grow it like the 3rd world nations.

When would people open their eyes and see the white man's FRAUD of cheating the black race.

@ Doyin13,

Somebody help me. . . . . . .Doyin wants to lecture me on Hip-Hop.
Hombre, there's no era in Rap Music, i grew up listening to Rap music. . . . .sneak away from school to buy CDs in em days.
I will sit u down with chalk in me hands and lecture u about RAP.

I listened to ILLMATIC when it came out. . . . . It wasn't really CLASSIC but NY just needed a tonic to quench Dr Dre/Snoop Dog's west coast beats.
"The Chronic" was better lyrically and the beats were OMG. . . . .
If u need history lessons on the birth of Hip-Hop in the early 90s. . . .Please holla at me. We can start with WU-TANG CLAN.

P.S. I loved Rap so much when i was a kid, i skip my meals just to watch Yo! MTV Raps.

Full allocation of all proceeds from the oil to the
local community. It might not stop the local fighting, but it will stop it from being a federal issue.

You left me gobsmacked with the comment above!!!

What else can the FG do for the Niger-Delta region? These buncha violent youths see oil as their God-given rights but then, it belongs to Nigeria.
I dunno how truthful it is but i heard Niger-Delta students get the highest scholarship and are more likely to be employed in em Oil Companies than students from the other parts of Nigeria.
However, these kids don't even want to educate and get trained. . . . . All they know is bunkering and sabotage.
It gets to a point that this ugly-headed hydra forces the Federal Government's hands to meet FIRE with SUPER POWER.

@ Doyin13,

You only listen to the radio friendly ones like "juicy" "big poppa" and "one more chance"
One thing i love about Rap music is the fact that best tracks rarely make the radio/TV(it's reserved for the rap addicts).
Listen to "gimme the loot", "warning" and "the what" and come back n gimme the testimony. These are prophetic rhymes.
They are classics.

I love Stillmatic but grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. . . . . . . .Ready to die swallows it every day of the week LYRICALLY.

chiogo:
@ y'all claiming Kanye and co. Tell stories and bla bla, what have their stories done for you? Lmfao. Even they telling the stories don't even go by what they tell so what's the point? The whole poetry thingy is becoming boring. They keep lying to y'all asses, hahaha. The only time I can get into this poetry thingy is when it comes from a naija rapper but unfortunately, I don't listen to any. They ate sardine for dinner, bla bla. Some people out there in Nigeria don't even have that for breakfast not to talk of dinner. So, really I don't have time for no sob stories. I'd rather listen to jigga all day.

Naija rappers and poetry? Are u kidding me?
You call what Eedris does on the mic poetry??

Rappers in the USA can only rap about what they actually experienced not what happened in Nigeria.
Keep lying to their fans?? I don't think so. Many of em have their prison records to show for their impoverished childhood.
Are u saying 2pac lied about his jail terms??

doyin13:
I never said Rap Music should be banned. Far from it.

But I think we should analyse it for what it really is.

A bunch of infantile misfits, no cleverer than your average sweettalking street love-vendor,
glorifying the law of the jungle. In between, they make a few songs to try to prove
they have a mother or never knew their father, and in other cases rail against an Establishment
that made them fat cats.

This makes no sense.

doyin13:
But despite his subsequent shortcomings, Nas is forgiven for GIVING us the best hip hop album ever- - - -ILLMATIC.

The best hip-hop album ever? I disagree with you.
Ready To Die is the best hip-hop album ever made(It's like a story book).

@ Doyin13,

Stop being a ninny!!!

Rappers don't say much ma ass. . . . . .so who says much.
What type of romantic songs has Beyonce/Rihanna done that we haven't heard from Sade and Diana Ross.
Should we ban em for repitition or what exactly are you trying to say??  

When i said Rap is Life, i meant Rap is FREE.
It's about the only music genre that allows artistes to express their minds 100% unlike other hypocritical types of music.
Listening to Rap has got nuthing to do with violence. . . . .Before Rap, there was violence so it's up to parents/guardian to keep their tots in check.

Lest i forget. . . .You are still a ninny.

This is gon' be interesting . . . .

The question here is. . . . Why are the militants fighting the FG?
Granted, their farmlands andthe rivers have been polluted by oil drilling and reh reh reh but how many of these guys actually go to school.
Majority are idle and they expect FG to pay their way through because they are sitting on billions of barrels of oil. . . Things don't work that way.
If the Government ain't doing things right, WAR should be the last resort.
My only anger is the innocent children and women that would be sacrificed for the fun of it.
What a calamity!

@ Doyin13,

You are narrow-minded and your line of argument is horrendously flawed.

Rappers are very good at putting words together and they maintain the fundamental guidelines of poetry while telling a story.
Now in defense of rap artistes, you must understand that this genre of music presents a vehicle of expression for some who might have had no other avenue for venting about the horrors of their lives.

For many ghetto kids, rap music has provided a vehicle to escape abject poverty, vices and dreadful living conditions.
What is wrong with The Notorious B.I.G. telling his fans how he used to eat sardines for dinner.
No one can fault a kid—deprived of the basic needs to get on in life—for using rap music as a way to leave an undesirable world behind.


Writers like Frederick Forsyth and James Hadley Chase all used their experiences in various fields to write their books. Are they guilty too?
Any psychopathic kid can read any Hadley Chase's book and use it to perpetrate evil and beat the case unharmed.
Rap music get a lot of negative review because of racial discrimination. Anything attached to the Black Man MUST BE EVIL. . . .

. . . . And to think a negro like buys white man's shittery is pathetic.   RAP IS LIFE!!!!!!

Talk 2 ya rock-butt later then.

Cheers,

What are u unhappy about?
Ok. . . . . . Ok, no one would rattle your cage about Rock again.
Continue to be a rock fan. Happy now?

stillwater:
No one decides my taste for me.

Very Well. . . . . .
I have done ma service as a hip-hop fan to convery you. . . .Dr Dre/Timbaland would be proud of me.
It appears u are neck deep in this rock thang so good luck to you.

Lemme go n sleep now. . . . . . .Twas tough trying to make u a rap convert. . . .SLY will continue from where i stopped.

stillwater:
Now I know you're insane!!!!!!!!

Don't blow a gasket, Senora.
I was just yanking your chain . . . . . .Nice pix but u need to give up on Rock.
Hip-Hop/R-n-B should be your genre.

Long hair, tattoos, stilletos . . . . . . . .
Stilly, you are a rock star!!!!

stillwater:
If I am to put up a pic it's by my own freewill and not because to prove any gothic stuff. It's nice seeing you revel in delusions .

OK.

Put it up by your own freewill for 5 mins.

[quote author=HR.hotness link=topic=132597.msg2431906#msg2431906 date=1214626061]You both aren't done derailing the thread? [/quote]The thread never had any importance before now. . . . . . Y'all should pay me for gracing ur gothic n demonic rock thread.

stillwater:
Naa, sorry I'm not putting up my pic.

Just like i was expecting you to play.
Stilly, you are so predictable. . . . . .Can't believe you are shy of your gothic culture.
Tsssssssk . . . . .tsssssssssssk.

No mocking. . . .I Promise.