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plaetton:
Lol.
You are chemist ?
You mean someone who actually studied chemistry at the university level ?

Lord have mercy ?

So HIV , herpes and cancer are man made diseases

I apologize dear,.as I usually do when I am flommuxed by the sheer level of COMPLEX ignorance that I am confronted.

She obviously studied chemistry in the church

naijadeyhia:
The innocent fear no accusation. Why would I deny when there is nothing to deny seeing that I speak the truth unlike you who is claiming to be a former pastor when you know God never called you but you deceptively called yourself and began following people you saw as gospel stars because of your addiction to miracles and not God.

The fact is your type has been in existence way before now and will continue to browse through generations but how has that diminished God?

I have said it time and time again that your failed attempt at Atheistic Evangelism is like a boxer eho is boxing the wind and claims to be a world champion because he did....its fruitless and stupid because worse and stronger Atheists than you have come and gone but the gospel of Jesus keeps waxing stronger until THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE GLORY OF GOD COVERS THE EARTH AS THE WATERS COVER THE SEA.

95% Of the world do not even know what Atheism is and you are here chest beating. You better go and put your head on right becauss being a fraud flows in your veins.

Is that all?

Trying to invalidate me does not make your lies true. So you pull out a story of cancer being healed and the dead man resurrecting then call me a liar so as to make your story true? Lol
Abeg keep up the good work. Respect to all the "I must lie for jesus" crew on nairaland. Una dey try

ireneony:
The black death:Plague is an infectious disease caused by bacteria called Yersinia pestis. These bacteria are found mainly in rodents, particularly rats, and in the fleas that feed on them. Other animals and humans usually contract the bacteria from rodent or flea bites.

Prior to then; there were no pesticide/insectide to contain rodents then.
Do you like the sound/sight of rodent in your environment? The answer is simply no. It's left for you, to always keep your surroundings clean.
Then, human were not concious of their environment.
Thank God we've passed that.

Get it!

Hehehehehe
But there was christianity so why did their religion and god not save them. Why wait for science to find solutions through intense research? Lol
Why could god not raise saviours for them like he does in the bible whenever his people are in crises.

winner01:
God cursed man and cursed the earth for certain reasons. The Bible did not promise a rossy life. Jesus Christ warned his followers to brace themselves for a rough ride.

What he promised however is to be with us throughout this ride and make sure we get to our destination.

This goes on to show those that were really indoctrinated as a kid.

Haaa!
But one of your brothers just said only sinners suffer diseases. Why are you people contradicting yourselves?

ireneony:
you need to understand the world is evolving.
The more earth becomes modernized the higher the problem. It is left for us to put more effort in finding solutions to all these threat to mankind.

This was the reason why i stated earlier that man given the power and dominion over thing on earth is to contain whatever problems that have arise or will arise.

There are good bacteria and deadly ones, just like there are good and bad people.

List of some good bacteria that helps man's body
Lactobacillus
Bifidobacterium
Streptococcus
Bacillus Coagulans
Escherichia Coli
E.t.c

Bad bacteria
Clostridia
Streptococci
Staphylococci
Legionella
E.tc.

Get it!

The question is "WHY WOULD GOD CREATE DISEASE CAUSING BACTERIA?" Simple question, why create them in the first place?

You are beating about the bush. You have said it over and over again, that it is left to us humans to solve our problems, obviously god aint that much of an impact. That is how I began suspecting god did not exist. It's man that always solves problems.

naijadeyhia:
Your lies are an embarrassment to lies itself. You lie in staccato fashion.

Glad you did not deny you are a liar.

Keep lying for jesus, if he is real hope u know what your reward would be

DeepSight:
This is a very well centred question.
For the OP, in her bombastic ignorance, does not realize that she is also bacteria of another sort to other living creatures.

The OP probably eats the corpses of other living things to survive daily, and sees no parasitic behavior in this, but callously, shortsightedly and and selfishly sees the bacteria that protect an entire ecosystem as evidence of the absence of God's Love.

This sort of OP will not understand the role of ants and other insects on the entire ecosystem, this sort of OP will not understand the role of lions in checking the population of cattle, this sort of OP can never, NEVER - EVER - understand the role of natural disasters in pruning that which needs to be pruned. This sort of OP cannot understand the cycle of life.

You made no sense mr man.
So it is just the natural order, God in his wisdom created a balance right? Those bacteria are only doing what comes natural.
Good!
So can you tell me why christians await a heaven/new earth were there would be no more diseases and deaths. Where lions and lambs will play with each other. Yet looking at the lion, you will see that is perfectly evolved to kill and feed on flesh. Same with viruses and bacteria that have detrimental effects on their hosts.

Why have a split serpent tongue? on one hand you say god designed everything good, on the other you say god would correct everything in the new earth.

All I see are excuses for god.

ireneony:
[font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]hiv,herpes,cancer,e.tc
All caused by the activities of man and destruction of its environment.

Why is there global warning?
All these are caused by man.
Look here mr man i'm a chemist and i know how man contributed to the unpleasant activities of the environment(enviromental chemistry)

Lung cancer is brought about by smoking.
Did God put ciggaret in man's mouth.
Or the did God say we should do drugs? But there are alot of deranged people in rehab.

When you talk abt skin cancer...you cannot exclude bleaching/tanning there go together. This is also cause by the practice of man.

For everything that has been created there is good and evil, it is now left for you to take the right path.

Quote me again...i will be here to show you links

So man created all the viruses and bacteria in existence? Interesting

plaetton:
Kindly give us a list or at least a partial list of man-made diseases, and also the ones that are not man-made.

Where on Earth did you guys go to school and what did they teach you there?

Sunday school is NOT school.

Do you see why oyinbo people do not teach religious crap in their schools?

I was once this stupid. Wasted about 20years of my life as a fool (christian).
Just see the crap they are all typing. Even contradicting themselves.

Imagine saying diseases are caused by sin and these are the same folks that would claim that religion is no hindrance to science. Imagine a scientist telling us that diseases are caused by sin.

ireneony:
why do you have hatred toward God.
You can hate on any religion. .
Pls do not hate on God almighty.

Most diseases are man made.

For God has given man the power and dominion.
Talking about power; which is knowledge and wisdom (how man apply knowledge)

When man misuse his power circumstances are bound to occur.

This is the reason why we have scientists (knowledge God has given us) to tackle these problems.

You don't expect God to come down from heaven to get things fixed.
He has given man the dominion to rule over everything, it's now left for man to make use of it (brain)

Have you ever heard of the phrase "we treat but God heal"

I believe in God and i rely on science.

smh

Seriously I don't think anyone should take you people serious.

You say you don't expect god to come down and solve any of man's problems, so what is the usefulness of god? What healing are people seeking in churches?
Smh
We treat god heals you say, is that not a perfect way of giving glory of an healing to something none deserving? I can as well say we treat gwagwa heals, it does not in anyway make the treatment more effective nor does it make gwagwa responsible for the healing.

naijadeyhia:
Young man I advice you stop with all these mumbo jumbo.

A man who refused Jesus when alive and had no dealings with Him came back totally convinced of what he experienced and you sit there and spew ignorance.

He never hallucinated or imagined it as the 5 of us in that private ward all knew.

Wait till you experience yours then you can explain it away but I know what I saw and experienced that day. If I was nor privy to the medical history from the onset then you can say all you want.

I suggest you read up on cancer of the bile duct then come back and tell me that a stage 3 can be medically healed in 3 weeks with no trace or even at all.

Smh
You lie without shame.

analice107:
Why are you scared? You fly around lying. If your are rock solid of who you are, engage me. Am obsessed with a dead fish. Yea, why not.

Lol @ scared how did you arrive at such conclusion?
No need engaging u in anything, I may mean so much to you, but the feeling aint mutual.

Image123:
The blind man from birth that Jesus healed, and the one Peter and John healed, some people still remained unbelievers and persecuted Jesus instead. Nothing new under the sun.

That is because the story of jesus is mostly fabricated.

Image123:
After you. Show me a star being born and a star dying, its composition, constituents and how you know. There's hell, now you know.

Saw what you did there.
We all know hell aint real.

analice107:
What's there to realize?
Let's just assume for the sake of argument that this HardMirror was in cburch(because he was never in Christ), here is the stance of Scriptures concerning him;

Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
Matthew:12:31-32

For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Hebrews:10: 26-27

There remains no more sacrifice for sin for these type, except the Bible is not true.

I see someone obsessed with hardmirror
Pele

muhamadnur:
what is the reason for atheist to live on earth god says i created the mankind and jinkind to worship me.

Why not leave allah to kill them himself?

Oh I forgot he does not exist

muhamadnur:
simple answer.
















bcoz its not the right path its da wrong religion. that knows nothing about GOD. and how to serve him.





islam is the way. "ALLAH IS GREAT."

Why are muslims the ones turning to terrorists?

Simple answer.

Because they worship the devil.

Happy now?

There are lots of muslims that have lost their faith but out of fear of being beheaded or stoned, they have to hide and pretend.

malvisguy212:
the two satan cannot do is knowing the future and life giver. All other things, satan can do.

Were u a student under satan to know all this? Or u are related to satan? Abi na ur best friend?

I swear I love christians, the humor me like no other comedian can.

oaroloye:
@GATIANO: I thought I knew what was what, until I read two books by CARLOS CASTANEDA:

JOURNEY TO IXTLAN.
THE FIRE FROM WITHIN.

It took me eleven years to get my hands on them all.

CARLOS CASTANEDA was an Anthropologist send to go spy out the secret of Native American Mysticism.

He was well-suited to the task: a NAGUAL (Shapeshifting Shaman,) saw his Energy implied that he was qualified to become his apprentice. So he taught him all that they taught apprentices.

He was introduced to the Mentor of their Order- a TOLTEC SORCERER who had been the Teacher of their Lineages for 250 years.

He was an Ancient who had been alive since maybe 1,000BC.

He had avoided death by being physically transported to Heaven- but when he got there, he found himself a PRISONER, not an honoured guest, nor an HEIR.

It took him CENTURIES to figure out how to escape. Once he did, he came back to the Earth. He witnessed the SPANISH COLONIZATION.

He had learned to REJUVENATE himself by receiving Spiritual Energy from NAGUALS, and in exchange he taught them Spiritual Secrets they could not discover by themselves.

When it came Carlos Castaneda's turn to meet him, and donate his Energy, he did not do what he supposed to do- and this 3,000 year old man apparently died as a result.

[See: THE ART OF DREAMING, by Carlos Castaneda.]

This is why SPIRITUAL KNOWLEDGE should never be given to the White man.

As LOBSANG RAMPA said: "When you give them a Mystical Artifact- such as an Ancient Lantern that has been shining for 1,000 years- they will take it to their laboratories, and BREAK it- then give you the pieces back, and say: "Well, maybe it did work before- but it certainly doesn't now!"

Interesting

Humanity is confused. smh

Immorttal:
there is a bright light at the end of the tunnel,dont just jam the light or you re a goner physically. you did not fly but floating.after life exist whoever says contrary is still incognizant of his nature.this is not our true home.

Hehehehehehehehe

This guy has the formula for immortality. Don't just jam the light else are dead. Hehehe
This is so funny
Oh boy

Let me spread the news so we won't die anymore, all we have to do is avoid the light at the end of the tunnel


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xtivin:
i fainted once and its like flying upward through a tunnel.

Tell us about it.

naijadeyhia:
I think you need to read up on organ harvesting before you type.

Those organs can only be harvested within minutes of death otherwise are unusable.

When there is no brain signal, electrical impulse, and all else no medical doctor will ever say, "hey he is still alive but we just cannot resuscitate him" they are termed DEAD!

After your 10yrs theory come back and reopen this thread. Until then you have nothing to say.

Lol
You see how you are skipping about?
So why do you think the organs must be harvested as quickly as possible?
Don't worry let your friend die and rot then come back to life so I can believe all this stories of dead resurrecting. All this I must lie for jesus crew sef

naijadeyhia:
Confusion. Since we are talking about consciousness after death and you say when vital signs are gone then such a person is declared dead and I said this person died in a hospital where all vital signs were checked, no heartbeat, no pulse, no electrical acrivity, no breathing before he was declared medically dead what more are u saying?

Before Organ harvesting can be carried out on a corpse that corpse has to first be medically certified as dead so whaf has organ harvesting got to do with my post or the afterlife. Stop being erratic.

Good!
So a person is certified dead then the organs are harvested. Good you agree.
Do doctors harvest dead organs? Absolutely NO!
So what does that tell you?
It only means you are declared dead ONLY because there is nothing the doctors can do for you any more, NOT because you are absolutely dead.
At a time a person not breathing was considered dead.
Later they advanced to lack of heart beat and pulse as a sign of death.
Next we moved to lack of brain signals.
BUT doctors know that the body is still very alive but they don't just know what to do to revive it.
Don't be surprises that in 10 years time, we would move beyond this stage.
We humans are understanding life better and better thanks to science and before the century runs out we may be able to revive the dead. That is the reality

gentlegenius:
If tithe was meant for the Levites(priests) alone, then your comment would have been very correct since Levites don't exist here anymore. But if you read Deuteronomy 14: 28-29, you'll see that tithe was meant for Levites, widows, Fatherless, foreigners etc.
So even though Levites don't exist, we should keep paying tithe to those poor and less privileged ones because they still exist.
This is why I don't pay my tithes in the church.

No no no no. There are no such laws in the new testament. What they early church did was to have contributions to cater for these less privileged. Alright.
So it does not have to be a tithe, it could be more, it could be less. You don't have to follow any law, but the law of love.
Feeling the pains of those in need and loving your neighbors as yourself.
All those offering and tithes are not supposed to be standardized. Instead people in acts of apostles were even selling their properties so that no one would lack amongst them.
So do what ever you like with your income, but out of love remember those in need (widows and the rest) that is how it shld be not sunday sunday offerings and tithe collections we see today.

Immorttal:
you are right bro. everything is energy,even your thoughts.energy can never be diminished but can be transformed. i can weaken you just by saying a mere words to you. . energy is everywhere

Absolutely, we are matter and energy and there are interactions of these people don't understand and say it's spiritual. If what you call spiritual is energy then no problem.

There is a lot we are yet to understand but gradually we keep learning and understanding them. Not jumping into conclusions and following the philosophies and superstitions of arabic goat herders.

naijadeyhia:
Go mad if you like and bite a rock. Your direction is already clear. You are the one misquoting and confusing yourself. Yu call it LIFE AFTER DEATH but did you die? No! So where are your arguments coming from?

I do know a friend who died from cancer of the bile duct and he got brought back to life right there in hospital after giving up the ghost and doctors had covered him up to be moved to the morgue.

He returned and right there after demanding for water to drink began to cry and say Jesus is real I am sorry and could not share his experience until after 3 weeks because he was still in shock and weak.

But when he did he recounted how he was taken on a grand tour of places too awesome to describe and how he asked are you Jesus? And the person said I am but he must not stay here that some people need him back home so he must go. Those people who needed him back were those praying ovet his cold corpse.

He is a firebrand born again believer today and his cancer also miraculously disappeared. I know about all this because I was there live as I was always the one driving him to and fro for chemotherapy.

Tell me another story.
Even animals supposedly die and jack up back to life, guess they also saw jesus and came back to warn us.
Your friend should have stayed there for about a week and let his body rot a bit before returning
All this half baked stories and highly exaggerated experiences all to suit a story and appeal to peoples fantasy.
When people are pronounced dead, it does not mean they are totally dead, the doctors only depend on vital signs, if they can't find any organ activity from the heart or brain, then the person if pronounced dead, but the body is still very much alive, your organs can still be harvested and used because they are still alive.
So it is not uncommon for a body to lack vital signs (such as pulse or reflex), then such a body to come back active because the organs and tissues are still alive.
Sensationalism and appeal to sentiment makes us exaggerate such experiences.

Just like dreams, your subconscious depends of elements of your memories to create your dreams.

Claiming to see jesus and such does not excite me and such stories proves nothing to me cos I don't allow my emotions dictate what I believe. I clearly see the pieces of the puzzle and there is nothing spiritual in the whole picture.

Muafrika2:
That's how people who hang die.

It causes death by using the weight of the body to tighten around the trachea and neck structure with the noose. It's also causes death by strangulation. And takes 10-20 minutes to kill, unless the head didlocates - wiki.

But your question was if his wind pipe broke. Does it have to break?

malvisguy212:
we are talking about peace, we are talking about TRUTH AND LIFE. Satan can give you peace so that you wouldn't run to God for help.

Excuses, excuses, excuses! Smh

kilo4sure:
I could be wrong but l never knew China, Japan and south Korea are majorly atheist countries. I thought they practiced zen Buddhism. North Korea and Russia though can be classified as Atheist.
Also most of the peaceful countries you speak of were religious for many years and some even have state churches.
I agree with you on most of the points you made though.

Do you know anything about buddhism?
Pls read more. They don't believe in God, it's like an atheist living a religious life.

JackBizzle:
1) Is it atheists that are destroying Nigeria?
-Our leaders are have always been christians or muslims


2) Do you realize that our former colonist/slave-masters were christians?
-We were taught religion through slavery/force and you think your religion is good


3) Why are atheists (not christians/muslims) producing most of the technology that you use?
-Yes, why are atheist countries like South Korea, China and Japan ahead in technology?


4) Do you realise that there are more peaceful religions/philosophies than christianity?
-Jainism, hinduism sikhism etc have far more peaceful histories than christianity


5) Do you realise that your God has not done anything for Africa?
-Ever since you were born, has Nigeria ever progressed? Your prayers for your country have failed consistently


6) Do you realise that your bible is not the standard for morality?
-The brutality of the old testament; slaves being sold, stoning for sins, capturing virgin booty in wars etc


7) Do you realise that even Jesus accepted other beliefs and religions?
-The good Samaritan did not worship Yahweh- as he was not a Jew


8.) Why are less religious countries doing better than religious ones?
-The human development index that ranks developed countries makes this point very clear.


9) Do you realise that God does not protect the weak?
How many children will be molested today? How many women molested? How many politicians stealing public salaries?


10) Do you realise that atheists can be as good or even better than christians when it comes to morality?
-Again, I remind you of the good samaritan.

This is beautiful. Well written bro

Muafrika2:
How sure are you that you died? Did your windpipe break?

Is that how to die Lol

angels09:
And Levites owned nothing.

Pastors own the best things of life these days