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IRserveMyComent:
That spiritual bravery that can lead one to hell.

reason why many practice religion. Insurance based on fear of damnation

BustScam:
I have seen a lotta people claim to be unbelievers in Jesus Christ and his teachings.

What my worry is that why have they chosen this stand?

I observed an extremist in this category on Friday when one dude decided not to buy a phone from a man because he was wearing a banner on himself of his church's event.

So, I ask, why have some people decided to be Atheists?

Because if god exists he is yet to reveal himself to mankind

dazzle101:
Hahaha good for you! And to think all for some imaginary being you were almost mobbed!

So u neither blv in God nor satan, neither here nor there Oya clap for yourself!!! Keep believing in nothingness, I wish you luck!!!


P:S-. You have been given this one life to seek the truth, so really look for the truth it's out there somewhere but to believe in nothing that's a serious joke!!!

I pity you

oyewolestephen:
On one fateful afternoon I left my house to cut my hair, on getting to the entrance some guys there were playing in a rough manner accidentally I was hit via body contact and my phone fell down from my hand and the screen broke.
instantly the boys apologised and I gave up.. A man that was very close to there said the screen broke for a purpose that certainly God will provide a better one for me(what I don't like to hear in such scenario)
I politely reply him that I don't Believe in his theory because I don't need to believe in any imaginary God before I forgive my fellow human being. Unbelievably the man started looking me asif I am not a human being.the man said Imaginary god? I said "Yes" am I not a Christian? "Yes ", Muslim? "No" traditionalists? "No" what are you then? just a humanist. so I briefly expatiate on what I mean by that.so you don't believe in existence of God? Yes because I have never seen a concrete evidence to believe. The man sigh and said he would disown me if you are one of my children. Really?
So I observed that the man was still looking me in an annoying way(who cares?) so I faced my business.
Due to my current mood I was unable to wait for my turn because 3 people were ahead of me to barb so I decided to go and come back.
On getting there, Only one person remained so I have to wait. While waiting the same man walk up to me and angrily told me that if I don't want god to punish me even down to my offspring I shouldn't utter such statement again I replied him by saying he should keep that intimidating speech for is fellow religious folks. The man got more angry and raise an alarm by calling the passers-by to come and see the person that said God does not exist, at the arrival of those people I felt so embarrassed, and they started calling me all sorts of wicked name including a fool, not that only I was also bombard with numerous expected questions like:
who brought you to this earth? I answered them by saying "I was not brought but I was given birth" another question If I die where am I going? I honourably answer them by saying" I will go back to where I was before birth" which place? I don't know!! beside, why is it necessary to know where am going when I don't know where I came from? And some other ridiculous questions are: what is responsible for rainfall?
Why is there day and night?
How did I grew up to this my current stage?
Who created the heaven and earth?etc.
What surprised me most was when the shop owner chase me out of his shop branding me as a satanic weapon (meanwhile I don't even believe in existence of satan too)
After all these I became angry too and I told them that all what they are doing or saying is really abnormal and they shouldn't take it personal, because everyone has freedom of expression they should also leave me for their god, to face the consequences of my statement, so all what they are doing is irrelevant.At the time of speaking a street guy even holding cigarette ,heard about this to my surprise he took it to the next level by coming up with an action to engage in physical combat with me, imagine only me at the midpoint of those religious fanatics. To cut the story short when I discovered they've started showing excessive grievance I stylishly work away from the area to avoid further problems.
As a result of what happened have decided not to share my thought openly to avoid being stigmatised. Hmmmmm Nigerians are so religious

You FU.KEd up big time! Do you know how dum.b people are and you have the audacity to be explaining atheism to illiterates?
No no no! You messed up big time! What were u thinking?
When people pray I say amen even when I don't believe shiiiiit.
Smh. You should have been mobbed then next time you will know how to talk in public. Seems you have no use of your life.
Wait.. Wait, what were you trying to achieve with the explanations you were making? Damn! You lucky they did not mob you.

Read on Buddhism. What a beautiful religion (don't know why it is even a religion, it is more like an ideology). No god in Buddhism

TheAgba:
You have a land and just because I have power more than you, I would then displace you of the land and say I am right just because I am more powerful?
You're wicked like your God. I don't expect you to agree that God has been dishumane to mankind.

And please, you still have my questions up there staring at you.
Also...
Is God good because we say he is good or God is good because he says he is good?

Relating with god is like relating with a psycho. You have to love him even when you don't.
Truth is many just shout " I love god" based on what is called the stockholm syndrome.

Proud atheist here. I have not for a second regret dumping the bible. Just read what malvisguy wrote about moses and god. He is always wanting to kill and destroy. Sounds more like a spoilt brat to me. The humans that invented the bible must be very daft

malvisguy212:
its is the way your canal mind interpret the verse, the israelite are God's children, when they turn against God, God anger rose against them, moses had to pleaded with Him, we see such thing happen when moses was alive, on many occasion, moses pleaded with God. If God should destroy the isrealite, then the covenant He had with Abraham ,isaac and jacob will not be fulfill.

Deuteronomy 9:26
I prayed to the LORD and said, "Sovereign
LORD, do not destroy your people, your own
inheritance that you redeemed by your great
power and brought out of Egypt with a mighty
hand.

Many times moses had to intervene for the stubborn israelite.

What a daft god. So moses had to keep a leash on the psycho until he eventually killed moses. What a sad tale

malvisguy212:
bring the verse were moses had to informed God of His action, let us analyze it.

Ex32:1

timonski:
@op. It seems you lack the holy spirit. Earnestly pray for wisdom. You are almost 30 for christ's sake!

Sounds like "op seems you lack the spirit of delusion and illogical reasoning"

annunaki2:
As I said earlier, moses is not my example but Jesus Christ. On the issue of invading people's lands, that is the story of human history and up till the twentieth century(end of second world war) it was the routine thing practised all over the world and people did not invade other lands for religious reasons(except in the case of islam) but for economic reasons. That said the world has moved beyond this primitive mentality(with the exception of the muslim world) and invasion of other lands is greatly frowned upon. If only the world had embraced the teachings of christ earlier which taught us to "do unto others as you want them to do to you", we would have achieved world peace long ago and an ideology like islam will have no place in the modern world.

Hehehehe jay jay!
You damn funny man. See how convenient it is for you to accuse islam and make excuses for moses.
Did god ask moses to kill those people YES OR NO.
As for it being the norm in those days, those it mean the bible is just a history book that makes false claims about god?
Did god ask moses to do what he did or he was just doing what was normal those days.

malvisguy212:
God’s repentance is not like man’s. I take that to
mean that God is not taken off guard by
unexpected turns of events like we are. He
knows all the future. (“Behold, the former things
have come to pass, and new things I now
declare; before they spring forth I tell you of
them,” Isaiah 42:9). Nor does God ever sin. So
his repentance is not owing to lack of foresight
nor to folly.
Rather, the repentance of God is his expression
of a different attitude and action about
something past or future ,not because events
have taken him off guard, but because events
make the expression of a different attitude
more fitting now than it would have been
earlier.

Ok. Well explained. It is a typical giving of excuse by man on behalf of god, but at least you tried unlike some that would give explanations that makes no sense.
So moses had to tell god the consequence of reacting like a kid that got his candy snatched. Imagine moses telling god not to wipe out isrealites. This god does not seem that bright to me.

annunaki2:
In the ancient times, the standards were different and based on our standards today, a lot of things moses did was wrong but since then Jesus ushered in a new and better standard which we follow today only for mohamed to come 600 years later to try and drag people back to that primitive standard.

So you agree that isrealites should apologize to palestinians and admit genocide of their people.
Should moses story be seen as a story to teach people that invading peoples lands and murdering them is bad? Was moses really sent by god to kill all those people and take over their land?

annunaki2:
Christians are followers of christ and not moses, joshua or david.

So would a christian agree that Moses committed genocide?
I never said they are followers of moses. Learn to read and comprehend.
What I need is sincerity. If you condemn mohammed then you must condemn moses too. so are they ready to admit that moses was a psychopath that used the name of god to go on a killing spree and taking what did not belong to him (robbery)

Buharism:
saul killed thousands, David tens of thousands.

That is it. Yet david is a hero!
David's case is even better. It is moses and joshua that are pathetic. The entered peoples territory to take over by force claiming god sent them. Killing everybody so as to take over their properties. And this same christians shamelessly condemn mohammed who was also working for god. Is isis not working for god too?

oyalunasamuel:
You must be out of your mind. I know that you know that you don't make sense.

What is this one saying. Address the issue. This is how you dribble the truth at every turn.

The hypocrisy of christians stink to the high heavens!
Why am I particular about christians? Because they are the ones you would see condemning Islam as a religion of terrorism.

Please what did Moses, Joshua, Samson and the rest do in their life times? How different where they from Mohammed? How different was isreal from isis.

A group of people left a place and came into peoples lands, killing everybody including children and said it was god that asked them to take over the land.

Yet you condemn isis, yet you condemn boko haram.

Why should I trust a group of people who see nothing wrong with moses and caleb and joshua, but see them as role models?

Can somebody HONESTLY tell me how moses was not a terrorist and how is he not guilty of genocide? Why do you believe god spoke to moses but did not speak to shekau of boko haram?

malvisguy212:
see bro, you have NO idea of what you are talking about.

No no no
You are wrong. Do you know what repentance means.
You can't repent without
-realization of wrong doing or wrong thinking
-commitment to do the right thing
So it means go realized he was thinking wrong and then committed to do right.
Any one who has to repent is imperfect even if he has good intentions.

"Oh damn! What was I thinking?" That is the thought of a repentant person.

So imagine god raving with anger and saying he will destroy the children of isreal. Then moses saying "god, really? You will destroy your own people? After you brought them out of egypt you destroy them and make everyone laugh at you?"
I can imagine the look on god's face like "oh sh.it! What was I thinking?"
I can imagine god regretting creating man during noah's time and deciding to flood the whole world.
That sounds more like an unstable human to me than a god that knows all things.

But the problem is in what god has to be. A god must be all knowing, all powerful and all present. Anything less is a god not worthy to be called god. But we humans who speak for god because we created him in the first place are struggling to give a perfect cover for god because we are not perfect ourselves. We don't know what it is to be all knowing. So when we tell stories about god just like in the bible, we end up with stories with a lot of loopholes that makes god more like an ordinary man with exaggerated abilities.

KingEbukasBlog:
Homosexuality ? Sex before Marriage ? Taking of hard drugs ? Promiscuity ? Masturbation? Prostitution? Abortion ? Indecent dressing ? The list goes on and on . These are now accepted and condoned depravities even legal in some countries in our modern time and why haven't God's standards changed ? There's feminism and all but God still exhorts women to show deference - polite and willful submission and respect to their husbands - in their marriages . And God never saw women as second class humans, where did you get that .

Everyone now has and talks about sex before marriage unrestrained ! When the honorable and noble behest by God is to keep your body pure - a virgin - before marriage .

Stop making crap up to justify your unbelief . "God evolves as the society evolves"- just imagine the absurd and shallow thought this atheist just made up .

You conveniently skipped slavery. What of slavery?

You will never see christians where intelligent things are being discussed! where are all the christians and moslim? Here is a very thought provoking question, is kingebukablog and joagbaje the only christians on this forum?
They only like childish irrelevant thread like "a lady's 4 boyfriends die mysterious one after the other" or "people who play football will go to hell"

UyiIredia:
God is thought itself. Why won't he think ?

That is like saying "god is a program, why won't he program" or god is a process, why won't he process.

taurus25:
nice thought there op...its not too suprising that the idea of god/s in which theists believe in pose so many logical fallacies, they are modeled after man afterall.......anyways lemme hold it there and wait for some theists contributions before thread gets derailed

Exactly! That is your answer op. Indeed I am interested in what the theists have to say

HardMirror:
Note: this is MY opinion based on my knowledge of god
God is a necessary ideology which has been given human attributes Because the creators of god had to attribute characteristics of humans which are presumed the smartest organism known to god. Man thinks so -god has to think too
Remember god is an ideology. The he has to be everything. Most powerful, wisest, all knowing all everything a man wishes to be. Hence reason why you see attributes of imperfect men in a god that is supposed to be perfect, because he was not created by perfect men in the first place.

This is the reason why god keeps evolving as society and civilization evolves.
God supported slavery when it was ok by the society then. Now he does not support slavery. God regarded women as second class humans then, but now women are important.
God is always a reflection of what a perfect leader is supposed to be according to the society that worships the god.

TheAgba:
At this point, I need enlightening. Thanks.

Malvisguy212, HardMirror, Johnydon22, Olaadegbu, Rossikki, Joagbaje, etc.

Note: this is MY opinion based on my knowledge of god
God is a necessary ideology which has been given human attributes Because the creators of god had to attribute characteristics of humans which are presumed the smartest organism known to god. Man thinks so -god has to think too
Remember god is an ideology. The he has to be everything. Most powerful, wisest, all knowing all everything a man wishes to be. Hence reason why you see attributes of imperfect men in a god that is supposed to be perfect, because he was not created by perfect men in the first place.

Abmbola:
Yeah sure bro I understand ur word thanks 4ur intrude

I have no problem with it, but just that many will see your posts online and they may frown at your use of some islamic signatures.

All the best in your picks

Abmbola:
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Abmbola:
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Islam forbids betting.

callmelanner:
This is an extract from the comment in the first post and I see some sense in it

***
1= ur first ex date died in 2012 = cool
2= ur second date died in 2014=cool
3= ur third date died after three years of ur relationship 2014+3 years it should be in 2017

this is where i got down from ur cheap lies
And still u date another one that died 9 days ago. Baby lies
u would have solved ur mathematics very well before this lie. ***
Lemme join my own, so after 9 days she moved on right? Is that even psychologically possible?. only if she is the murderer of those handsome dudes

Na wa for you o!
Her twitter handle is @tonifenty go direct your aggression to her there nau. or do I look like her to you?

Did some research on the story of toni and I realized that she changes boy friends like tissue paper. For people saying she is a witch or has spiritual husband, you are wrong. All these deaths happened within a span of about 4 years. The problem is she has lots of so called boy friends so the probability of it happening to her was high in the first place. People die everyday. It may not happen to many people but it is bound to happen to someone out of over 7billion people in the world to lose 4 friends in 4 years.

callmelanner:
Who e epp? We all know it's all liessssssss

Not lies. I had to do a little investigation on them

Twitter went ablaze when @tonifenty shared the pictures of her 4 ex boyfriends who all mysteriously died one after the other.
The question on everybody's lips has been "who next?"
Well here is her new boyfriend. The brave soldier!

www.theedgesearch.com/2016/04/meet-toni-fenty-girl-all-4-ex.html?m=1

anochuko01:
at this stage, even atheists go dey pray make them no encounter this typa person!
God have mercy!

Not true
She should tell us how those guys died. Where they all shot? Did they die of any particular illness? Etc. I repeat not spiritual in this case.

musicwriter:
Science is only explaining evolution. It's not explaining who or what originated it. In fact, they said they don't know.

Everyone knows it is god we just play around this fact. God is the origin of life and existence. Whatever caused life and existence to be must be god. The problem is we don't know what this god is, we don't know why it is doing what it is doing, we don't know if it is even conscious of what it is doing. But for now we can call it god. What is immediately observable is HOW it is doing it. And that is why we are able to sturdy nature and copy a lot from it and adapt our findings in technologies we make.
For now we can just call the creative for god for lack of better name.
Does it speak human language? Has it written any book? Did it create a garden with just 2 humans? Does it have a kingdom where people and angels worship it? All facts available says NO.
But we have gotten used to thinking of god a human like supernatural being.
Origin of life is still a mystery. I don't know, but I would rather go with honest people who are trying to find honest answers to these questions than be deluded by tales that have no proof and makes no sense.