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To those waiting for updates. I am still thinking about it. To continue or not. Still observing the reactions on the thread

Princewell2012:
Eeyaa if it was like before, i believe you would have delivered her. Pathetic.

She never needed spiritual deliverance. Let's not talk about her. Her case brings pain to my heart

adextetoo:
Hardmirror am waiting for you to finish your story don't drag this thing forever say your story and then comment later it's taking too long for a short piece of yours. Am currently doing an underground investigation of all your claims....am a futarian in my final year on campus. I stayed in akindeko for good four years how come I never heard your morning cry throughout 2011 and 2012 I know those who do those cries....maybe we might have met once who knows?......sha complete your story

Lol you funny.
Mr. Investigator.
Even if you come out with my name I will deny it
I did not do morning cries in akindeko since I left in 2007. I focused on off campus where I lived

1dorzine:
But seriously I'm surprised... And like I said..never being this surprised all.my life... It's like hearing Jonathan is now on the street begging... That is even lesser compared to wah I'm seeing her e

It was not an easy transition. I doubted myself so many times in the process

1dorzine:
PM sent

Seen

scampy:
HardMirror, you said you are no more an atheist about 3days ago. You even called them fools according to the below thread.

www.nairaland.com/3074983/praise-jesus-god-just-picked

What changed within 28 of April and 30th of April that you created this thread? Kindly reply me, thanks.

Read the thread again. I opened it because of those always typing "baba answer my call" here on nairaland. It was meant to be an irony

1dorzine:
Exactly IDD.. Guess I know you now... I remember.. I was in civil.. Did u take addax scholarship? To get a clearer picture of you.

Some are still doubting my stories here. I have not even typed 10% of things I did in school here.
Till now I have not told him I am not a christian any more. So many people looked up to me even this guy you just mentioned.

1dorzine:
Then I know you... How did this happen.. You won't believe I was always envious of you then... Wow.. This is the biggest surprise I've seen all my life... Wow... ..can't still believe this.. Well shii happens.. I'm sure you know wah you are doing.. I wish you the best... Lemme grab a sit and listen to the rest of the story..

Send a PM to me. I live in Lagos now.

1dorzine:
Then I know you... How did this happen.. You won't believe I was always envious of you then... Wow.. This is the biggest surprise I've seen all my life... Wow... ..can't still believe this.. Well shii happens.. I'm sure you know wah you are doing.. I wish you the best... Lemme grab a sit and listen to the rest of the story..

But was in SEET (engineering) not SET.
I know the guy in your mind (he was in IDD to be precise) we were 4 that always prayed together and preach together. The SET guy and I stayed in Block C (he is still a christian, my best friend so I know). His name starts with D and ends with A

johnydon22:
If the story of Noah wasn't in the bible Christians would have laughed at anybody who believed it, if the story of Harry Potter was in the bible Christians would have believed it and call anyone who don't a fool.

Don't you see how a Muslim believes Muhammed rode a flying horse but doubt other fantasies in the Christian bible that aren't found in their belief.

But a christian would still laugh at a muslim for believing muhammed rode a flying horse but they think a man flew away into the cloud and into some heaven.

That is the hypocrisy and idiocy of belief, trying to substitute emotions for evidence and faith as proof.

Blinds one to the inconsistencies of his beliefs but leaves them wide open to the inconsistencies of other belief.

Religions thrives on Fear, Blind faith, Ignorance and driven by indoctrination of these values into younger minds, if everyone asked questions like "you" did or want everyone to, we won't have up to 10% of the world being religious.

Lol
Couldn't have said it better

matrix199:
The two events in the bible that got me thinking were....



1. Uzzah, who tried to hold the ark of the covenant that got tripped when it was being hauled to a destination. The guy was struck dead. Talk about punishing someone for being helpful!



2. The first son of berthsheba, the woman David killed her son in order to marry her. What was the crime of the boy that he had to be killed by God?


These and a whole lot more got me thinking. I mean, if I was the most powerful man in Nigeria, I'll obliterate my enemies at a blink of an eye. I wonder why God had to allow these so called small gods to strive?


Christians, think brethren, think!

That Uzzah's case is a serious one o.
They guy just perished for nothing. Should he have left the ark to fall?

johnydon22:
Exactly but the insecurities in these beliefs makes them see it as an attack, their vulnerability makes them want to protect their beliefs from scrutiny and questions.

Anything that can be destroyed by the truth deserves to be destroyed...

I am perplexed that people read those "holy" books and don't ask important questions about what they are reading. If those books were just novels, then no problem. But books claiming to be from god; the absolute guide to life and definer of purpose. Not asking questions is a serious sign that such minds are deluded.

johnydon22:
Everyone is at different stages of consciousness, there is a certain stage you reach when your intent is just to speak your truth and not argue over it or try to convince others of it.

You begin to realize we all have and thread different parts in other words you cannot convince a baby that they should be walking and not crawling when they are still at that stage of crawling.

To convince them of that truth is irrelevant.

So you need reply the emotional but sadly ignorant assertions from insecure Christians littering this thread, you need not convince them that their wits are wrong because both of you are at different levels of wits, volition and illumination.

They can harbour any misconceived ill idea they have about atheists and atheism or broadly irreligiousity, it doesn't change anything.

No matter how hard you try to change that notion they will still hold it and cling to it, its not about them not learning but not wanting to learn.

Like i always say, it is dangerous for anyone with a belief in deities to debate an atheist, it might take a very long time but that tiny mustered seed of doubt must be planted.

So don't bother responding all these irrelevant mentions and posts, only speak your truth and do not bother arguing.

It only takes one tiny seed of doubt, natural curiosity takes it from there..

Really I am not interested in convincing anyone. But I will keep upsetting the norms in religion just to tickle peoples imagination. I am yet to see an atheist that is trying to convert anyone. We just make our findings available.

Ayomivic:
Are you an atheist too?
Ok, tell me, free from what?

Ridiculous question you've got there.
Are Hindus in bondage?
Are muslims in bondage?
Are traditionalists in bondage?
The christian answer is yes.
So if you want to know what he is free from, just look at those you think are also in bondage, that is the same bondage you are in. The bondage of ignorance and suffering because of lack of wisdom.

Jadonjack:
Sometimes I wonder why yu xtians think all atheists are frustrated but then I realised the truth.... Yu all can't cope with the fact that another sheep has finally bn freed of your grisp

The reason is not because they feel the loss. The real reason is disbelief that God can be denounced and yet these atheists live normal lives without the great fear of eternal damnation. It is just too incredible to imagine.

Ayomivic:
that is the kind of live you want that made you reject christ.



Santanists are wiser than atheist. I know you will never tell them the trueth.

Why is it that Satanist always in support of Atheists even when they know that atheist does not believe in existence of God and Satan?

The answer is that. The satanist know that atheists are foolish beacause they are unknowngly serving Satan. Satanist kown this, but atheist can never agree for they are foolish.


Satanists are wiser than atheists.

Hehehehe. I don laugh tire.
Yes we are fools. Happy now?

jiggaz:
@ Hardmirror mehn dis your story sweet sha... but guess what, i don't believe you!! lool. How much were you paid to write such trash... We all know Atheists on dis Nairaland can go to any length to discredit Christ Jesus!! lol. But you know what? Christ is the same today, tomorrow and forever more!!!

I stand for Christ Jesus and His Finished Work on the cross!! I am not perfect but i rest on the perfection of Christ!! I dont condemn people cos i don't know God's plan for them. But one thing i like all Atheists to know is dat you are not doing God a favour by accepting Christ, whether you believe or not, He's still God and He can never change. He gave us Christ because of His Unconditional Love for us.

But if your story is really true, i bet you that God will still bring you back because the new part you towing is too dangerous for you. Satan will use you do pepper soup!! lol. Before this year runs out, you will still put up a counter thread how God restored you back!! Yes i knew it!! You are just frustrated at the moment bro, but don't worry it is well cos Christ has overcome the world for us !!

To all Atheists, i don't hate you, i love all of you!! some of you i have interacted with here are intelligent but the wisdom of the world is foolishness before God!! lol. I am intelligent too but what sets me apart is that i have a relationship with Christ as my Lord and Saviour.

To you Hardmirror God will restore you back!! You can never escape it!!! loool. It is well with you.

You wish. These are words I could have said myself some years ago. You may end an atheist as well. Just keep asking questions with sincerity and willingness to accept the truths of your discovery.

urahara:
Hard mirror i see u o

Just came online. Going thru comments.

1dorzine:
Wow.. Read everything from page 1 to 7... I was a futarian..from 2007-2012.. Stayed in Akindeko hostel all through..block C in particular.. I think I know you hardmirror and I'm so scared this is not true.. Since you are hiding you identity..pls clarify this so I can be sure its you... You are light skinned..I mean yellow in complexion.. And your faculty is SETS.. Answer any of this questions pls..and you can check my DP to confirm if you know me..cos if you are who i think you are, we have had few discussions together.. Life can be funny.. Unbelievable lipsrsealed

I stayed in akindeko, Block C 2007. Room not far from the center entrance.

matrix199:
My brother, what can we do na? As the christianoids are praying to God to compress our reasoning so we'll accept their faith , we'll also be enlightening them so their reasoning can expand.

Na so one of my neighbours who is a christian fanatic, the man go dey pray everyday from 4am to 9am, then 9pm to 12pm every damn day. At first I cut cap for the man say the man fit dey pray this long consistently, but I got the shocker one day. This man begin pursue him wife with cutlass say he go kill her, say where she get money wey she use take buy brand new car. Na so I begin laff. Shey no be u dey pray for success and prosperity for ur family eh? Now money don show for ur wife, but not u, u begin reason say ur wife dey sleep with rich men dey make money. I laff tire.

The man don end up with mental problem. He has been confined to a psychiatric hospital.

I have a friend who ended up mad. She ran away in her final year and began preaching up and down on the road. Went totally crazy for about a year we could not find the poor lady.

matrix199:
My brother, what can we do na? As the christianoids are praying to God to compress our reasoning so we'll accept their faith , we'll also be enlightening them so their reasoning can expand.

Na so one of my neighbours who is a christian fanatic, the man go dey pray everyday from 4am to 9am, then 9pm to 12pm every damn day. At first I cut cap for the man say the man fit dey pray this long consistently, but I got the shocker one day. This man begin pursue him wife with cutlass say he go kill her, say where she get money wey she use take buy brand new car. Na so I begin laff. Shey no be u dey pray for success and prosperity eh? Na money show for ur wife, and not u, u begin reason say ur wife dey sleep with rich men dey make money. I laff tire.

The man don end up with mental problem. He has been confined in a psychiatric hospital .

I almost went mad too when I began to hallucinate. I would be seeing spirits and there was a time I a very big hand came out of the wall and wanted to touch me. I have many experiences I can't share here.
I am just so glad I am saved now.

reasonwitme:
i am crying right now cos of u my brother.how can God allow an asset to his kingdom to wander away.u r an extraordinary being, deep rooted in God,did wonders and about to turn d world around for him but here u r,wandering away. Y God?I have one prayer point;God Pls prove urself again in d life of dis ur son so he can testify of ur existence.my brother,u r too dangerous and knowledgeble to b left in d hands of unbelief.u shall do greater things for God.

Weep not for me. I am just a single man. We have over 2 billion christians in the world. Instead pray for them to become fervent and spread the gospel. I am not a lose to god he has an army of christians.
Also weep for the Billions in hell.

But you know what you don't even have to weep. God aint real.

Lilbrown007:
Mhen

Exactly. The bible actually is proof of god being a fairy tale. The more you read it with sincerity the more you wonder who the fuuuck wrote the damn book.

freecocoa:
I couldn't agree more @ the emboldened. That is also part of my journey to atheism.

Most of the christians you see here online are worse than unbelievers. How many souls have they won around them, but they come online to defend god. Most are just cosmetic christians still fornicating and living in sin. I have not met a christian that is passionate about saving souls that is not worried about God's incompetency because you would have had so many touching encounters and realize god is actually doing nothing for humanity, but we humans are the ones running around for god (that does not even exists)

matrix199:
At this point, they are no longer praying for their rescue. Rather, they are hoping for their 'recovery', after most of the girls have been abused.


Not one pathetic pastor or prophet cld see a revelation in the spirit where the girls are. But one prankster will be quick to prophecise that God has revealed to him that Buhari will not preside his term completely, that one plane will crash into the sea.

Nitwits!

Exactly!
You have to be dumb to remain a christian. You have to be a fool to believe the whole bible.
The unfortunate thing is christianity requires taking pride in foolishness. You feel proud to be a fool that god has chosen to reveal all his mysteries to.
So sad. But good.
It is good we have christians. It won't be good to have too many enlightened people. Christianity is a tool to keep people under control. So I support it.

Infact. It is easier for a dedicated christian to become an atheist than an unserious christian.
Why. Because the unserious christian would be afraid that it is because he does not pray well, read the bible or live a holy life that is why the devil is deceiving him that the bible is not god's word.
But once you read the whole bible over and over again and you are genuinely concerned and sincere about life and the after life, you begin to ask questions and begin to see the stupidity of what you hinge you life on.
The moment you have a personal relationship with God and he is a Father to you more than being a far away God, then you begin to realize he is doing nothing to help humanity. You go out you see people suffering. You feel so bad and your heavenly father is doing nothing to help them. You want to go about praying for people like jesus you just end up embarrassing yourself. Why do you think all these big pastors don't go about on the street like jesus? They know god does not heal and going on the street will expose them real fast.
It's all a facade.

Am I implying that Insincerity, selfishness and ignorance is what is keeping Christians as christians.
The answer is a BIG YES!
The moment I began asking god the questions such as the one in my last post, that very moment I began to discover the falsehood of christianity.
If you are sincere and truely concerned about your fellow man, you realize god is more wicked, stupid and incapable than the presumed devil.

CONTINUATION...
CURIORITY and DARING TO QUESTION GOD

The christian God is regarded as a FATHER NOT a SLAVE MASTER.
I took God as my father. I discuss anything and everything with him. He was a friend I loved so much. We had a one on one relationship.
This meant I could ask God any question
I am a practical person, I don't just hear the word, I do the word.
People in the bible had chats with God and He is my father and friend so why should I not ask God questions and why should he not answer?
So ask God sincere questions

1. My Number one problem: We are to preach to all nations and make sure people don't perish
I and many christians I know were trying our absolute best to depopulate hell as fast as possible. To make sure people don't just hear the word BUT they actually get saved.
Someone asked why I pray for at least 12hours. It was because of the burden I carried. The burden of soul winning. It was terrifying that many were going to end up in hell and burn forever! if you are a christian and you believe people will end up in hell and you don't preach and try to win souls everyday YOU ARE WORSE THAN BOKO HARAM. FACT!
How can you have peace of mind and sleep at night knowing you hold the secret to eternal life in your hands and you are comfortable? How dear you buy luxuries when you can put that money into soul winning? How can you be asking God for more money, when you should pick up your bag and preach. How can you be asking God to pick up your call so you too can drive Range Rover?
It started becoming apparent that even God was a wicked God. Why?

-so he is all loving, loves humanity more than any man could ever love another man. More than an earthly father would love his son. YET God would let people perish in hell for even telling a lie no matter why you tell the lie or how small it is?


- so the best a God can do is to send humans to preach His word?

Oh wait! Seems you don't understand Jesus died in Jerusalem for the sins of the WHOLE world and If anyone dies without christ he was going to end in Hell. Wait! Do you know how many People would have died in Africa, South America, Australia, China, India, europe, before the Gospel reached them? Do you know how many people die per day?

So all these people will go to hell? The clever answer will be NO, the won't go to hell because they did not know. Oh! So if they won't go to hell because they were ignorant, why preach the gospel to them and make them informed and now if they die with the tiniest of sin without christ they end in hell. Why not leave them ignorant so their souls can be saved based on their ignorance.

How long did it take for the gospel of christ to reach the whole world? Is god truely the God of the whole world or of Jews?

It did not just add up.
This whole gospel thing started to crumble the more I thought of it.

That is just a tip of the questions I began to ask God. Of course he had no answer. The same God that reveals other peoples issues to me could not answer this.

continued here: https://www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian/17#45231153

CONTINUATION...
I LOSE MY FAITH IN THE BIBLE, JESUS and RELIGIOUS CONCEPT OF GOD.
Before I continue.
Miracles exists
Witchcraft
Speaking in tongues is real
Everything supernatural about christianity is real.
What is not real is the reason behind it.
It is just like magic.
Real magic is does not exist, but that does not mean magic is not real. Magic is real as long as you are ready to overlook the tricks behind the magic and just enjoy the show.

https://www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian/5#45205356

OgundeleT:
hardmirror go sabi write season film o, episode by episode.... kwantinu

Lol
Funny you

chubbyswit:
i believe you used to study the word of God to understand that speaking in tongues (strange languages) is a gift of the spirit. How do you explain such a strange behaviour since you no longer believe in the supernatural? Can you try to explain that in your new atheistic sense? Listen Op for God to still allow you the priviledge of speaking in tongues even after blacksliding (which is rare) shows how important you're to him. I implore you not to give in to whatever negative battle that might be going on in your mind all these years. We'll all become atheists if we look unto man and not God. Man is fallible but God is not. Dont become an atheist because of you think God is not doing enough for mankind or because you think pastors, or so called men of God are nt humans therefore shouldnt make mistakes. Infact we ve so many fake pastors these days. Pray tell me the reason why you choose to fall off even when you have experienced all these. Your work is between you and ur God and not man

Thanks for the concern. You are a real christian.
Don't worry about me. I may not have all the answers about life but at least I have one less lie to worry about. Christianity is a good way of life and I encourage people to read the bible and pick good lessons from it. The bible will make you wiser if you are already wise.

chubbyswit:
who're they please?

Why don't you google them up or get the book "God's Generals"