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freecocoa:
HardMirror, chai! I'm just pitying for you, if only you know the amount of torment that awaits you in hell, especially since god called you, blessed you with enough speaking in tongue skills and grace, what did you do? You threw it back at his face.

Hmmm, smh, if only you know.


Just continue the story o since are already here, make we kuku finish am, but I really dey weep for you.

Lol.
No problem

CONTINUATION...
So this Lady claims to be a witch when she was a kid. Wow!!!
Now I can hear a witch tell me her story. Not all the rubbish illiterates tell us.
This lady was a friend that could tell you anything once you are her friend, she hardly keep secrets. If you drink garri with this girl, she can embarrass you when you go out and tell people, "Na garri we drink comot this morning o"
She had embarrassed us her friends soo many times like this.

I asked her
Me: why do you say you are a witch?
She: when I dey small, my grand ma used to take me to church and when ever they say people should come out for deliverance she always said I should go out. I no know why, but as the pastor dey pray, everybody go dey fall, and me sef dey fall.
Me: so you were falling cos everyone was falling?
She: No o. I just dey fall, me sef no know why I dey always fall.
Me: Always?
She: yes, na everytime dem pray for me I dey always fall. Me sef no know why.
Me: Ok. So what was it like to be a witch.
She: I no know o. I just know that my grandma used to say I had marine spirit then and she takes me to pastor and I always fall
To cut the long story short, this lady could not give a detailed account about her life as a witch even though till date she believes she was ones a member of the marine kingdom.

So how come other witches have a lot to say about the marine kingdom?
Well: Because they are lying and people actually want to believe their Stories.
Why? I have heard so many witches confessing, they are always saying trash. Eg a witch says they are the one making Versace brand of cloths. Versace? She said yes they are the ones making it and hair attachments. That is you look at the logo of versace that the image there is that of medusa whose hair are snakes.
So who is the ceo of versace? She does not know.
But once people hear such stories they are already shouting "jesus!" Without asking important questions. They just want to hear the sensational stories.

It is a delusion that is so real. To me it is like a type of madness where what's not real is so real to you. Where you have dreams and believe you are actually carrying those things out. Where you see people hurting themselves in their dreams. Living a double personality.

Witches are as real as masquerades. They exist but are they what they claim to be?

Continued here: https://www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian/5#45204654

kevoh:
Abeg leave my edo sister alone o!

Lol

zzzzy:
reminds me of William brahnam and Alexander dowie

God's Generals. That book made my delusion in God worse. It made me believe God absolutely because this were people we could actually trace their stories unlike the bible. It made we throw myself into the service of God.
Glad I am free from all those delusions

chubbyswit:
Op for someone who God gave supernatural gifts and won many souls for christ to turn and blaspheme him shows that satan is seriously working to make sure you dont do more damage to his kingdom, dont let him for your own punishment will be more severe for once being a firebrand christian only to fall from grace. The battle is always in the mind and the devil has almost succeded in manipulating yours into atheim. You'll also tell me you were brainwashed into speaking in tongues or just faking it all those years. Supernatural activities is real all you athiests die in your foolishness and regret it forever. How i wish this guy understood how special he is to God

I never faked speaking in tongues.
I fact it came after I learnt how important it was for a christian.
the man of God that thought us was a very honest man, he did not force anyone. He only pleaded that we earnestly seek the gift of the spirit and prayed with us. That same day many started speaking when he prayed, but I could not. I just couldn't it was all strange to me. When ever I opened my mouth I felt like I was about to say rubbish to God.
About a month after this, I was praying at home. I always loved prayer walks because it helps me pray longer. So I was pacing about the back of our house (no one can see me there or distract me, there was a farm there). And asking God to help me so I can pray in spirit. I remember the words of that man of God saying we need to have faith and just speak as the spirit leads. So I opened my mouth and spoke. It was really really strange, but I started to flow.

I can still speak in tongues till date. In fact when ever I am stressed and I need solution, I pace about the house and speak in tongues. It helps me think better.

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I stopped my last post at the witches that came to me for deliverance.
Remember, I said my major gift was the gift of the word of knowledge. This gift helps you to know hidden things about people.
So looking at the grandma I concluded she was the real witch and she has initiated her grand daughter and was only being mischievous.
So I asked both of them to kneel while we circled them and pray.
We prayed in the spirit for about 2hours, as we prayed in tongues I would speak out revelations of the holy spirit in yoruba language so she could understand.
The woman started crying and rolling on the floor. But the grand daughter was just there looking confused.
I started revealing things that were going on in her family and telling her how God was fixing them.
I started telling her how God has set her free and restoring her family.
I spoke with authority. I quoted scriptures. It was powerful.

NOTE: I was not a deceiver or liar my word of knowledge just comes naturally to me. Though now I understand why. I had a passion to see people set free. Honestly I wish god was real. I would have gone round the world restoring broken lives.

Now what was happening? It is all about knowledge, Burden, hope and understanding.
The old woman had a burden, knows and understand she was standing before someone who could give her hope.
The daughter did not understand anything. All the confession she made was based on thinking what was expected of her was to be a witch so she was saying things she didn't understand.


We rounded up the prayer. I asked the woman some questions. She said she is delivered. She was in tears I had to hug her and pet her.
The daughter was still damn confused. I just looked at the confused girl and told her God has set them free.

When I reflect back on that incidence, I begin to understand that poverty is the real witchcraft. YOU CAN NEVER SEE AN AJEBUTTER that is a witch. NEVER! Your background, silly people that keeps calling you a witch, superstitions all come together to make people believe they actually have power to hurt other people.

When I was a kid, there was this girl in my primary school always claiming to be a witch she keeps telling her classmates she would kill them. One day a girl fainted in her class. Trust nigerians, everyone said it was the witch girl that caused it. The foolish girl thought it was her weapon to be important too she never understood the gravity of foolish things she was saying.

Of recent I met an Edo girl, the girl friend of a friend. We were talking about witchcraft and I told her it was not real. She said I did not know what I was saying that it is Very real.
When she saw I was not buying her theory. She confessed to me that she used to be a witch. What?! You were a witch?
Nice one.
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Morning everyone.
Now I really really laugh at some silly chaps here trying to corner me and tell me I don't really know christ. Someone asking me how I got the holy spirit with the manifestation of speaking in tongues. Lol!
I made the first set of Baba Ogundare's Trainees. If only you know who Rev. Ogundare is. Or if only you know who Rev. Olusola Areogun is, you folks won't be spewing thrash here.
Before I even met them I was already well seeped in the gospel. I don't just read the bible, I have books I have written based on the revelation of the holy spirit to me as I read the bible.
At home I was regarded as a prophet. I prayed at least 6hrs none stop everyday. My mum felt I was called for a special assignment so she encouraged me after many attempts to stop me.
She used to be scared I would die of fasting. And yeah people die of fasting. Had a brother in CAC campus fellowship FUTA that died around 2010 from complications that were a result of fasting.

You christians here have no idea the kind of life I lved for christ.

I lived so well for god that when I became an atheist, I became the type that if you visit me to preach to me, you will leave almost throwing your bible away.

Nairaland is not enough to tell it all. I am the kind of guy that if I had continued as a christian would have ended up a legend.

So dear christians hold your horses.
Now shall I continue?

Continued here: https://www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian/4#45202884

Shollyps:
lol....JCCF teaching week will end tomorrow... they have make futa hot...pastor adeboye also came around February or so...rev.ogundare...I once attended his program aswel....when I was still eager to know God more....that man is hot in Christ as well......studying biochemistry....all my department mate know that am atheist... nothing to hide...we discuss about on watsapp group almost all the time....I tackle them so to say....became atheist during holiday 7months ago...going to 300l...I was only fervent about religion for 200l...praying ...fasting... n all that...



which department you graduated from?

Let's keep that for now (course I studied). That would blow my cover soo quickly.
I have nothing against christianity. Won't mind my children being christian if they choose to be. Yeah, I knew of pastor adeboye's visit. I was even in akure then.
Atheism is not an easy part to tread so we would be few for a very long time. Takes a lot of courage to set the records straight about christianity or islam.
Just be smart about life. Atheism would take a lot of goodwill away from you because nigerians are religious

Thebrightest:
OP please come and finish the story

I promise to do that tomorrow. So sorry

Shollyps:
lol....that's the pattern most of fellowship in futa follows.....Pentecostal like...

even ECWA student ministry that I attended n others is like that...speak in tongue ... n all that.......

federal university of theology... we dey cope sha...lol

lol. JCCF is also to blame and pastors they invite. And then you have people like Rev Ogundare raising "gods generals" in his house at Apatapiti.
What are you studying?

urahara:

Lol Na wa o. May not post again this night. Will continue tomorrow

Shollyps:
great!!!...a student...300level..I have close friends at ASF......

That's great. A very good fellowship. Don't know how "hot" the fellowship is now. We infused penticostal doctrines into the fellowship.

Shollyps:
futarian...prayed at akindeko car park so many times as well.... but wasn't so deep into religion as you were ...
to know the place you mentioned makes the story to be more interesting.... contunu!!!...*grab chair....popcorn n orijin....*sit beside Johny......story dey sweet

Great futarian. Glad to have you. Are you an alumni or still a student?

kepstone:
Whoever wrote this please permit me to say u have totally written rubbish under d influence of satanic manipulation on ur mind. How dear you come out to say such about GOD and d grace he bestowed on you to serve his body. Watch brother, you are slipping gradually to a world of regret. I may not want to expose myself , to me what u have seen is nothing in your Christian walk. Do you know how much divinity was deployed to save humanity. See the devil does not care about you all he cares if for you to land in his coven eternally. Today I went to evangelize, and I was speaking to someone not to miss heaven cos hell will not be inevitable and its eternal. I pray that GOD restores you, I love him so much that nothing in this life will change my stands on him both want I know and what I don't know. If he chooses not to answer my prayers he his still my GOD, i f I never !ake money I won't deny him. I love him GOD.

Abeg, park well. This is one of the strengths of religion, Speaking with authority and absolute certainty. It works. But you have no idea who you are talking to.
Even hardened criminals get swayed by this tactics.
I once visited Olokuta Prison in Akure and I realized that men are week. I have never seen men so humbled. They praised God better than any church I have ever visited.
Humans are searching for answers to life and when they come across a person with so much confidence and speaks with authority claiming answers from God who created heaven and earth. Who is all powerful and has a wrath greater than anything anyone can imagine, it is only natural to tremble and succumb.

So park well with your useless pity and threats

WITCHCRAFT
REAL
Believe it or not witchcraft is real. Yes as real as magic. What is magic? Magic is basically ability to use supernatural powers to do impossible things to entertain people. At least that is what we want to believe. But the fact is magic is really clever tricks done to make you believe you are witnessing an extra-ordinary feat. Magic is real when the magician is good at his tricks.
Same with witchcraft, it is real because some people can make it real to you.

2010
I organized an outreach to Idanre, Ondo State.
During the main night of crusade, I preached, many gave their lives to christ, many were prayed for for healing and most importantly, MANY were delivered from witchcraft.
Note this was ASF, so you can verify if you don't believe. It was what we called a state outreach. So students from all tertiary institutions that were members of ASF were involved. AAUA, FUTA, Adeyemi collage of education, FECA, School of Nursing, School of Health tech. Etc.
I could not sleep that night I kept speaking in tongues till the next morning because I was afraid for the safety of my people on this outreach in this village.
The next morning a woman brought a girl not more than 10years old at most and told us she was her grand daughter.
She told use this grand daughter of hers was a witch and a very strong one.
That yesterday when we left the crusade ground her grand daughter kept shouting fire in her sleep.
I did not allow many people to know. Only 4 of us, and the woman and girl making 6 in total were there.
I looked at the girl and asked her if she was a witch. The girl was confused and lost.
Then she said yes she was a witch.
I asked how she came to know she was a witch and she said, everyone had always told her she was a witch as long as she could remember.
Her parent, her grandma. They always said she was a witch. The reason why her dad was not doing so well, so they sent her to the village to stay with grandma.
I asked her a lot of questions to be sure she was a witch. Then I began to suspect the grandmum to be a witch too. So I asked both of them to kneel while we circle them and pray deliverance for them.
Note: there were clear indications the grandma and girl were not witches but confused beings who are just seeped in tradition and superstition. BUT I was too blinded by religion to be rational. I instead was suspicious of both of them trying to test God.
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To those who want me to skip the stories and my experiences and go straight to how I became an atheist, please be patient. The details I am giving are important has I have a lot to expose.
There are many reasons why Christianity has survived the test of time even tho it is built on lies and deep human psychology. Many suspect this but find it almost impossible to question God or his word. Some are still thinking I just became an atheist. I have been an atheist since 2011. Totally stopped praying and going to church since 2012.

Edelweiss44:
No Mr Johny! It is not blindness to believe that there is a God in existence who created you and everything you see in the universe, rather, True Blindness is when a man wakes up from sleep and believes he came into existence on his own accord, or that everything we see in the universe today came into being by an explosion (big bang) that occured billions of years ago. Were you there to witness the so-called explosion? Have you ever as a "knowledgeable" student of life that you claim to be now, ever in your life witnessed where a bomb exploded or any other form of explosion occured and life was created as such? Should common sense not tell you that even based on the science you claim to hold on to as your basis for denying God, that it is a principle that when explosions occur, the tendency is to destroy already existing life and not create a new life Why are you afraid of boko haram bombs if their explosions would create life?? My friend, the earlier you stop playing foul play with your eternal destination, the better for you. Many people have spoken all these your big grammar here on earth just to confuse themselves and other people, only for them end up in hell now crying day & night for mercy that they can never get again because God has already written it that "It is appointed unto man once to die, and after death comes judgement". You can keep deceiving yourself now because you feel you want to "enjoy" the pleasures of life, and the only way you can indulge in sex outside marriage and other pleasures you know are not right without feeling guilty about it is by trying to first convince yourself that there is no God......that way, you can feel like you're very free to live your life as you please. But know this; If it turns out the day you die and you discover suddenly that there is indeed a God who created you and everything in the universe, but you stubbornly rejected him while you were alive on earth, trust me when i say that at such time, you would be the one calling yourself all manner of insulting names for being stubbornly blind to what common sense should have taught you.

I would rather be a fool here on earth to believe there is a God who created me, and die to realise there wasn't any God afterall, than claim to be wise here on earth by screaming there is no God, and then die to discover there is a God and become a BIG FOOL for eternity.

You are smart!
Nice tactic there. So what if you are worshiping the wrong god and only find out the true god was Brahmah what would you do?

adextetoo:
The more you keep writing the more I see points to buttress mine

I have said it before. NO ONE is compelled to read this and don't expect me to read your rebuff when you post it. So stop feeling you have an ace up your sleeve.

Witchcraft An astonishing discovery....

Remember this is a true life story, everything I say here is the absolute truth, only thing I have not revealed is my name, because I am still a legend in Anglican student fellowship till date, not just in futa but the whole state as I once held a state executive position.

I got to the room where she was (the president's room) there were 3 people praying for this sister. She was wringling on the floor like worm with salt poured on it. The prayer warriors were sweating and visibly tired. I got there sat down and bent over to hold her hands. Immediately I held her hand, she started screaming, but was still crying. She was behaving like someone with the spirit of pyton in her.
I started speaking in tongues. For about 30mins she was still wringling.
I shock her up, asked everybody to stop praying.
I commanded her to stop and open her eyes.
She obeyed. I asked her to seat on the other chair in the room. I could see surprise in her eyes. I repeated my instruction and she obey.
I told her whoever the spirit sets free is free indeed and God has told me she was free. That no matter what she tot, she is already free. I asked everyone to start praising God.

Now this case was peculiar. Why? I learnt something key that day. Once a human sees you as superhuman, they believe anything you tell them and people can be overwhelmed by the presences or words of people they think are directly linked with God.
If I kept praying she would have kept twisting on the floor. But I commanded the nonesense to stop and it stopped. This is not very far from how hypnotism works.
Your subject has to be highly impressionable.
This is most likely what TB joshua knows. Once you see him as an ordinary human, his words won't have any effect on you. But the moment you buy into the whole facade and open your mind to be impressionable, you will end up responding to everything such a man says and end up misbehaving

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I honestly don't know what to do if I should meet those who knew me those days. I met a old buddy sometime last year. Mehn!... I just had to say a little prayer for him. I could not start telling him I am now an unbeliever.
Deliverance was also real. What is curious is the fact that 80% or so of deliverance had to be on ladies. Ladies seem to be the ones always possessed. This is for good reason. Ladies are highly impressionable.

2 CURIOUS CASES OF DELIVERANCE.
Now I had done lots of deliverance. I hardly touch people. I just stay at the alter, close my eyes and dish out the work of knowledge and ask people to come forward as I mention their cases.
"We over came him (the devil) by the blood of the lamb (jesus) and the words of our testimony." This proved true . With testimonies of great things God has supposedly done, people get moved. Faith becomes high, people give in to the "Spirit" easily.
There was a day I was ministering to people and I gave the word of knowledge that there was a sister there that was caught in the spirit of fornication and has found it impossible to be free. A very pretty sister started crying. She was wailing loudly. Some members tried to calm her down. But she never stopped. No one knew why she was wailing so much.
Church service ended but she was still wailing.
The church (fellowship) secretariat was just beside our fellowship tent. It was a thursday so it was evening service.
The sister was taken into the secretariat where she was still crying and some brothers and sisters where praying for her.
I try to keep a low profile despite being popular, so I decided not to interfere in her deliverance even though my ministration triggered her reaction.
I was about going home when I was called to come pray for the lady, the prayer warriors where finding it impossible to deliver her.
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MIRACLES!
Yeah! I mean it miracles were real. They don't happen always, but they did happen and still happen.
Also most of the gift of the spirit (Note GIFT of spirit is different from Fruit of the spirit). So I had the gift of word of knowledge strongly at work in me. I could easily tell people what was going on in their lives. This made me rise very fast in my school fellowship then and I was highly revered.
This gift made me the perfect candidate to anchor revivals and preach during our out reaches (crusades).
I am not good at teaching scripture, tho I was very vast. But I made sure I used my gift at every opportunity. Reason why it was easy for me to have so many converts.
When I preach people end Up rolling on the floor crying.
By the way I was a member of Anglican Student Fellowship. But I was nothing of the typical Anglican. I was a man of the spirit.
I preach with my eyes closed. I hardly open my eyes. I just go on stage and start delivering the word as the spirit lead. I start revealing the problems people are going thru, I start revealing the sins people were commiting in secret and before you know it the whole fellowship is crying . People will be rolling on the floor crying.
How could Bro...... Now end up being an atheist?

https://www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian/2#45191048

johnydon22:
Hhmmmmm looks like i nearly missed this to be ground breaking story... well i am here now **Grabs seat near OgundeleT** "guy give me pop corn and stout abeg

Little suggestion Pastor HardMirror, you need not reply the mentions from heart broken vulnerable Christian brothers that has been raining down pleadingly on this thread..

simply ignore and focus on your story which is why we are here..

Contunu **sips a cup of atlantic ocean**

So glad to have you bro.
I want to put it to rest once and for all here that not all atheist were unserious christians. They keep trying to tag us all as christians that were babes in christ. Let other christians or muslims who are struggling with the forced identity of christianity know the truth.

nelsonoba:
Can I tell you something Mr NEW ATHEIST? We are not in a competition with atheists.......nobody is begging you to do God a favour by believing in Him. If you believe in God and the death and resurrection of Christ for your sins, you are merely doing yourself a favour of saving your soul. You will certainly discover if you or me is the FOOL here by the time you die and get into eternity to face judgement. Let's leave the answer to that till we both close our eyes here on earth and open them in eternity! No need to argue with you.

Can you kindly quit stressing yourself?
Now I want to use this guys post to point some things out to the intelligent people here.
1. Notice the words he used all caps for:
-"MR NEW ATHEIST"
-FOOL
Now this is psychology, tho he is doing it subconsciously. He is using the "mr new atheist" tag on me in order to down-size my confidence and make me feel inexperienced or feel I am new so I don't really know what I am saying. Nice tactics there. Always works when preaching. You have to make your target feel they don't know much about life. They have to have little confidence in themselves. This makes it easy for them to listen to the so called "superior" argument you bring.
-he subtly used the word "fool" but he made sure I noticed it by typing it in Caps. This is to further break down my confidence in myself or what I think I know.
Then he finishes with drawing my attention to something that is a threat to me. What lies in wait for me after death. Now this is a very smart move.
Why?
-he feels it would be hard for me to disprove punishment awaiting me after death.
- he is using threats.
- fear of the unknown could make me succumb to his solution (being born again).
These are the essentials.
More of this as we go on.

Alfamann:
This is the thing with xtians. When they wave that their pre-historic book, they feel very superior to others. With condescending attitudes and moral high grounds. I love bringing them down fast.

Smart guy. You are on point there. This are all sub conscious psychology that makes christianity work.

urahara:
Oga hard mirror come out and continue your story jare. U are just putti g every body on hold

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CONTINUATION. MIRACLES! Yes miracles were real to us. VERY REAL! And yes I saw and performed a lot of miracles.

We had to drop the Love Domain brother from our group. The guy was always doing ridiculous things.
Had a lot of spiritual sons and daughters that treated him the way Pastor Adeboye and Co are treated. He was called daddy. He had them serve him all because he is their "daddy in the lord". They paid for his bus fares, they gave hime food etc. He believed that once you are born again, you can never lose your salvation. So we stopped taking him seriously.
So we never did the mad man stunt and he never did it himself after we dropped him from our group.

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CONTINUATION
Life in school was like living a fantasy!
Now, Note I was not a regular christian, I had so many people looking up to me and the burden was not easy. So I had to have friends of like mind, friends that shared the burden with me. Friends I also shared their burden just as the bible encouraged us to bear each others burden.

Akindeko Moto park was our war zone. If I tell you how we prayed you may find it hard to believe. We could pray for 12 hrours straight NONE STOP. You don't believe me? Ask those who know Baba Ogundare or Pastor Charlse of Dream Center church a spiritual son of Pastor shola Areogun. Speaking in tongues made 99% of our prayers.

I had 3 friends I always prayed with. 2 of them were from deeper life and one from Love Domain. Now this is sort of contradictory. Love Domain don't take doctrines and laws as serious as deeper life members.
The deeper life brothers were only interested in soul winning, but the love domain brother was all about working of miracles and working in the supernatural. He hated our "morning cries".

I remember the day he said we should go to akindeko Mosque (don't know if the mosque is still there) and challenge them just the way elijah challenged the prophets of baal.
His proposal was for us to get a mad man and take to the mosque and ask them to cure the mad man, if they can't then we will cure the man and they will know we serve the true God.

I recall how we kept quiet that midnight (about 3am) only 4 of use in the dark at akindeko Park. Listening for the Holy Spirit to direct us to go ahead or withdraw from this suicide mission.

We have had clashes with the moslims at this mosque because we were very stubborn and radical. We were always disturbing them with our preachings. They almost stabbed one of us at a time.

There was this guy, Alfa Christopher (real name) and Alfa Civil (real nick name) who were are arch enemies then. Alfa civil was very popular in the whole engineering school.

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donnffd:
I am, thanks, how abt Urs?...enjoying ur story so far, keep it coming

Good. Thnks Glad you are enjoying it.