₦airaland Forum

TAO11:
Yes, the scholars knew the bold, yet historical scholarship identifies the Ogane as the Ooni of Ife. And interestingly, not a single historian or scholar identified the Ogane as an Igbo king (only on Nairaland).

All scholars noted that the “east” in the document is of a religious non-literal significance. And Ife is well attested (among cultures throughout the Gulf of Guinea) by the religious epithet of “east” — the place from where the sun rises.

Moreover, every received detail of that account matches none other than the Ooni of Ife.

Name me one scholar (not Nairalander) who identified the Ogane as an Igbo king. None!

Not only is this screenshot unreliable, you have gone ahead and added a twist that east is now of a religious influence and not literal to match your narrative ....IFE never held dominance over Bini(Iduland), The Bini had Little regard for anything west of them, whereas they never attempted to venture east with their military, Anybody fleeing Bini always ventured east cos they knew they would be safe, Bini soldiers pillaged Yorubaland all the way to Eko not once did they look east, Ogane was towards that direction and He reigned supreme

MinorityOpinion:
Compare the east of Benin, its still a Yoruba town

You are too ignorant , East of Bini is the NRI kingdom across the Niger, from where the Igbos currently in delta were coming from, Ife is far west of bini, where did Ketu come in again?

MinorityOpinion:
Kingship was introduced to igbo land by lord lugard, go search am, although maybe after aro or Obi(Benin influence) , no worthy king again. Igbo were decentralised tribe with no sense of belonging, you know it, I don't under your beating about the Bush.

What a dull person ..... you are Contradicting yourself without remorse.....Now lemme clear you on you misconceptions about Igbo kingship;

1: Rulers in ancient igboland where regarded as priests rather than kings, They were revered and feared for their mystical powers, but their authority was not absolute like in other cultures.

2:All Clans had this priest kings but the EZE NRI was the supreme, he is regarded as the embodiment of spirit and the connection of the physical to the spiritual.

3: Decisions are taken after consultation with the OZO and NZE title holders

4: The British simply came and turned this Ezes into their subordinates, even installing new Ezes in place of republican leadership found in some clans.

Igbos always had rulers, just not in the sense you are used to in yorubaland

TAO11:
Lol, I literally quoted the words of the archaeologist (Professor Thurstan Shaw) who worked on the Igbo-Ukwu artifacts. Also, I literally attached a screenshot summary (from Adam Knobler’s 2016 work) of historical scholarship’s identification of the Ogane as none other than the Ooni of Ife. I think you should re-read that comment again, but this time slowly.

Anyways, you failed to inform me on why you should be taking seriously with your approach of imagining history rather than citing scholars like I did throughout the comment. I will give you one more chance on this. Please convince me.

In sum, repeating your ignorance multiple times (even a quadrillion times) does absolutely nothing to alter scholarship. Did you know this??

I am not trying to mArGiNaLiZe you though.

IFE is not the east of Bini ....The east of Bini is littered with Igbo clans of present day delta, remnants of a time when Nri high priests journeyed to Bini for coronations, ritual cleansings and military fortifications

MinorityOpinion:
I hate liars legendhero, Sammy07, ThatFairGuy, Etinosa1234, obalatule, babaramota1980 should we reasersch igbo history for them? The Igbo are referred to as cannibals and ugly tree dwellers by the British, even the riverine tribe don't consider them humans, if you press further I will find the article and put it here.

You have started crying again, Next is insults....Igbos are too ancient for your comprehension, So ancient that Igbos themselves believes they stemmed from the ground itself

TAO11:
Lol, I was literally quoting the archaeologist who worked on the Igbo-Ukwu artifacts. Also, I literally attached a screenshot summary of scholars’ identification of the Ogane as the Ooni of Ife. You should re-read the comment again, this time slowly.

Anyways, you failed to inform me on why you should be taking seriously with your approach of imagining history rather than citing scholars like I did throughout my comment.

In sum, repeating your ignorance multiple times (even a quadrillion times) does absolutely nothing to alter scholarship. Did you know this??

I am not trying to mArGiNaLiZe you though.

You can dig up and modify any revisionist account of history to suit you, Doesn't change a well and rigorously established fact, Igbo ukwu was a grandpa to anything IFE, the burial chambers of Igbo ukwu was for a long from the Line of the Oganes, the second picture is a reconstruction of the burial

MinorityOpinion:
When was this arochukwu formed? The throne is not more than 500 years. We are talking of over 2000years King. In the 15th century Oyo has already had her 8th king

Cc legendhero, Sammy07, ThatFairGuy, Etinosa1234, obalatule, babaramota1980

I thought you said lord lugard introduced EZE kings to igboland, Are you about to shift goal post again?

MinorityOpinion:
read what he said, he said they migrated from Ife, that is Ife was their home, then they went to South East to teach the people there Yoruba civilization and the ifa system. Check the complexity of ifa with that nonsense you call afa. Ifa is superior anyway. You shot yourself in the foot.

IFA is superior to what? , stop using words unless you understand the meaning, Ifa is a joke to Igbo divinition of AFA....yoruba just started glorifying and worshiping it cos it was foreign to them, Igbo culture sees AFA as simply a tool, yoruba uses palm kernel in their IFA divinition

MinorityOpinion:
This is where a voice note is important, are seriously that dumb? The only recognised cities with sophisticated Kings and system of government in the South are both Benin and Oyo and other Yoruba Towns before colonization.

Baby kingdoms of yesterday, They are no match for a civilization from 3000bc....Igbos have already passed the peak of their influence by atleast 1000 yrs before the Europeans came

MinorityOpinion:
Don't mind him, the only thing they have is Eze Nri in the whole of their history, let them chest beat in peace on it.

You are obviously don't know the Eze Aro of Arochukwu ancient kingdom

MinorityOpinion:
If I were to follow the pic, it means igbos migrated from Ife, that is Ife is their home, then ifa travelled from Ife to igbo land.

A single sub-group of Igbos lived in IFE and they birthed the modern yoruba

MinorityOpinion:
that did not change the fact lord lugard introduced Eze system to igbo land

Yes just like he introduced Oba kingship and Yoruba language to you

Lipscomb:
Go back to school and learn how to spell word properly.

Illiterate primary school certificate holder talking about English

TAO11:
Please tell me why I should engage you when it is obvious that I historians to substantiate my statements, while you cite your imaginations.

Convince me please on why you should be taken seriously. Thanks.

You are not citing any historian, you simply modified facts to suit your narrative, All you posited where balderdash that holds no water, Igbo ukwu artifacts precedes Ife by half a millennia #Fact

BrownLondon:
I noticed you're more shallow than Igbochief, i just had to back off.

The stupidest people always think they are the smartest, you are a case study.......you where simply throwing insults around in the name of argument, Imagine counting large land mass as an evidence of urban area, Tueh!!!

Lipscomb:
We have Yoruba Ghana nationality in Ghana. But they conduct themselves and respect the law.
And a Yoruba by Nigeria nationality living in Ghana has never been drag like you guys.

You are saying trash and shifting goal posts, Yeroba is in Ghana and Ghana knows them only as Nigerians not Igbos and yeroba.....So keep rejoicing until that your tailor uncle that you hope on returns with Ghana must go bag

Liechtenstein, Not even up to the size of Enugu coal city

helinues:
Same way you and your brothers have been jumping on Yoruba's thread most especially anything related to Tinubu...

We are just getting started with you guys...

Wait for it

Una no reach, Ewedu house fly

Lipscomb:
No wonder you have been beating in Ghana like goat.

Yiroba people are the Nigerian majority in Ghana but your demented ewedu head does not know that , Hateful looser